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It looked really BAD at the game. I would think he's done for the year?

Thank goodness for Heyer and Wade, we should be fine.

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[url=http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=28959]Redskins Lose Jansen to Injury[/url]

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;349548]I fractured my ankle sliding into 2nd my freshman year of high school...and my "wonderful" coach decided to cut me on the spot. Great guy, there I am lying on the field, writhing in pain. And he says "Listen, we're going to go ahead and cut you" Last game of spring training before the season starts. He didn't even need to cut anyone[/QUOTE]

^What a dick move.

I have a feeling that Samuels injury might have been a blessing in disguise. It sure helped Heyer get some playing time, and get ready to play if need be.

He did a very good job stepping up and not missing a beat. He might not have been perfect, but pretty damn good considering the circumstances.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;349548]I fractured my ankle sliding into 2nd my freshman year of high school...and my "wonderful" coach decided to cut me on the spot. Great guy, there I am lying on the field, writhing in pain. And he says "Listen, we're going to go ahead and cut you" Last game of spring training before the season starts. He didn't even need to cut anyone

Anyhow, a lot I think with Jansen will depend on how quickly they make a decision on what to do.

But hey, I'm also holding out hope that what I'm hearing is wrong and he's back sooner than later.[/QUOTE]

what a dick!! he must have really disliked you,or again maybe he was just a giant dickhead

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;349608][url=http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=28959]Redskins Lose Jansen to Injury[/url][/QUOTE]

SOmeone reported this earlier in this thread.

[i]Surgery is [b]likely[/b]. The injury would [b]appear[/b] to end Jansen's season.

[b]The team will update Jansen's status on Monday[/b].[/i]

Nothing is in stone yet...we'll know more tomorrow. Keep your fingers crossed.

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[QUOTE=htownskinfan;349614]what a dick!! he must have really disliked you,or again maybe he was just a giant dickhead[/QUOTE]

Total dick. He'd make the team do 10 pushups for every run allowed. Right there on the spot. So if the team gave up its 4th run of the day. The whole team would have to get down and do 40 pushups, on top of the 30, 20, and 10 they had just done. It was embarrassing. He was gone after that 0-10 season.

The next season the only changes were that I played and we had a new coach. And we went 9-1 (this was JV) and lost in the county finals. And I doubt I was the one that made a big difference.

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Heyer only played because Wade was inactive since they thought Samuels could need a blow here and there and they wanted Heyer for LT. So Wade was inactive. Based on the radio reports Wade most likey starts now at RT. Not Heyer. He did a good job in any case though.

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Why not keep Heyer in and let the good times roll? I havent been terribly impressed with Wade. But on the other hand, I was all over Heyer after JC got hit in the preseason.

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I think we should keep Heyer in there. If he starts to really collapse then we have a good backup in Wade.

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Oh well. Next man up.

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From Redskins.com it sounds more like a season ender. This sucks balls!!!!! We can't afford to keep losing linemen every week. So far it looks like we can be in the thick of it all. Philly isn't so tough and both the Gmen and Dallas don't have much of a D.

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If JJ is gone for the season I would not be surprised if its the end for him. He's old and constantly hurt. Too bad.

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[QUOTE=irish;349985]If JJ is gone for the season I would not be surprised if its the end for him. He's old and constantly hurt. Too bad.[/QUOTE]
I'm thinking the same thing, especially if it looks like Heyer can be good.
If this is the case, I'd love for Jansen to stick around the team in some capacity.

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[quote=irish;349985]If JJ is gone for the season I would not be surprised if its the end for him. He's old and constantly hurt. Too bad.[/quote]

Well, he's not really old at all. Lineman can play well into their thirties and be effective.

I think the bigger question is does he have the fortitude to rehab and come back next year or the year after. But if he wants to, I think he can recover and play again.

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big loss for the team, but we do have wade and heyer looked good. wade is a tackle rather than a lg, obviously so i think he might get the start there next week.

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[quote=Big C;349993]big loss for the team, but we do have wade and heyer looked good. wade is a tackle rather than a lg, obviously so i think he might get the start there next week.[/quote]


From what I hear, Wade is getting the nod over Heyer next week.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;349995]From what I hear, Wade is getting the nod over Heyer next week.[/QUOTE]

Thats who I would go with. Heyer did a good job, but Wade has much more experience and there's a reason why we extended his contract. Make him earn his paycheck.

Wade stepped in for a game last season and did really well. Some might say that he's a better pass blocker than Jansen.

Still, I hope Jansen has a quick recovery. I saw a picture of the injury and it hurt just looking at it.

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Wow...I can't believe we haven't gotten an update from someone on here yet.

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NFL Network just said Jansen out for the season.

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I think he is done for the year, but we shall wait for Gibbs presser today. The pictures that the washingtontimes.com has up are pretty damn knarly! I won't link them because some can't stomach them.

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The only reason Wade didn't replace Jansen yesterday was because Wade was inactive, partly because of the sore shoulder, but mainly because the Skins didn't think they'd need him. The shoulder thing is minor, and now that the Skins know they'll need him, he'll be the starter.

There's no way Stephon Heyer could ever be considered a better choice at RT than Todd Wade. RT is exactly where Wade belongs - and to be truthful - I see no downgrade going from Jansen to Wade.

It's just our T depth is thin now. Heyer is an adequate backup, but I don't want him starting. Did we notice how absent Cooley was yesterday? That's because he was helping Heyer in pass protection. We need him running routes, so we need Wade to hold his own.

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[quote=jsarno;350002]Wow...I can't believe we haven't gotten an update from someone on here yet.[/quote]

Did anybody really think he had a shot at playing again this season? I knew he was gone the moment I saw it on TV. In fact, I was thinking possible career-ender.

I guess you might think he could come back if you didn't get a look at the ankle.

It was a compound fracture, he was bleeding because the bone broke through the skin. The foot was turned at exactly a 90 degree angle to the right. It was Theismannesque, but I guess nobody got a good look at it?

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[QUOTE=jbcjr14;350064]I think he is done for the year, but we shall wait for Gibbs presser today. The pictures that the washingtontimes.com has up are pretty damn knarly! I won't link them because some can't stomach them.[/QUOTE]

You can still post the link here then just a give a warning about it.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;350067]The only reason Wade didn't replace Jansen yesterday was because Wade was inactive, partly because of the sore shoulder, but mainly because the Skins didn't think they'd need him. The shoulder thing is minor, and now that the Skins know they'll need him, he'll be the starter.

There's no way Stephon Heyer could ever be considered a better choice at RT than Todd Wade. RT is exactly where Wade belongs - and to be truthful - I see no downgrade going from Jansen to Wade.

It's just our T depth is thin now. Heyer is an adequate backup, but I don't want him starting. Did we notice how absent Cooley was yesterday? That's because he was helping Heyer in pass protection. We need him running routes, so we need Wade to hold his own.[/QUOTE]
One thing is for sure Heyer has a much higher up side and I don't believe Wade is that much ahead. I bet by season end we all will say Heyer is our biggest surpries and it will not be the highest need in the o8 draft!

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;350070]Did anybody really think he had a shot at playing again this season? I knew he was gone the moment I saw it on TV. In fact, I was thinking possible career-ender.

I guess you might think he could come back if you didn't get a look at the ankle.

It was a compound fracture, he was bleeding because the bone broke through the skin. The foot was turned at exactly a 90 degree angle to the right. It was Theismannesque, but I guess nobody got a good look at it?[/QUOTE]

HOLY CRAP! That sounds horrible...I haven't seen any pics on this.

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[quote=RedskinPete;350074]One thing is for sure Heyer has a much higher up side and I don't believe Wade is that much ahead. I bet by season end we all will say Heyer is our biggest surpries and it will not be the highest need in the o8 draft![/quote]

But how do we know he played so well?? Cooley was in his hip pocket the whole time on pass protection. The coaches obviously didn't feel comfortable letting Cooley go out to run routes with him in there. That should tell you everything you need to know. And without Cooley, our offense is limited.

The fans are WAAAY overrating Stephon Heyer. Wade can play on an island in pass protection, that's the strong suit in his game. I guess nobody remembers how well he played for us as a sub last year.

If we play Heyer, prepare yourself for Cooley to disappear to a year of pass blocking. If we play Wade, we lose nothing.

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[quote=jsarno;350075]HOLY CRAP! That sounds horrible...I haven't seen any pics on this.[/quote]

At your own risk, of course...

[URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20070910/SPORTS01/109100066/1023"]Win also brings a crucial loss*-*-*The Washington Times, America's Newspaper[/URL]

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"As for recovery time, Jansen said: "In 3-4 months, I should be ready to play football. It will be about six weeks in a cast with crutches. I'll be able to start in a walking boot and put some pressure on it. By 10-12 weeks, I should be running. ... I know I'll be able to bounce back from this."

From [URL="http://video1.washingtontimes.com/redskins/2007/09/jansen_talks_about_injury_ryan.html"]The Washington Times, America's Newspaper[/URL]

At least he's got a good attitude about it.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;350076]But how do we know he played so well?? Cooley was in his hip pocket the whole time on pass protection. The coaches obviously didn't feel comfortable letting Cooley go out to run routes with him in there. That should tell you everything you need to know. And without Cooley, our offense is limited.

The fans are WAAAY overrating Stephon Heyer. Wade can play on an island in pass protection, that's the strong suit in his game. I guess nobody remembers how well he played for us as a sub last year.

If we play Heyer, prepare yourself for Cooley to disappear to a year of pass blocking. If we play Wade, we lose nothing.[/QUOTE] You maybe right about Heyer but I have seen NOTHING that tells me Wade can do what you say he can!

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[quote=RedskinPete;350097]You maybe right about Heyer but I have seen NOTHING that tells me Wade can do what you say he can![/quote]

Wade is outstanding in pass pro at the Tackle position. If he's healthy I would play him. Don't judge Tackle Wade by what you saw from Guard Wade.

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[quote=Schneed10;350070]Did anybody really think he had a shot at playing again this season? I knew he was gone the moment I saw it on TV. In fact, I was thinking possible career-ender.

I guess you might think he could come back if you didn't get a look at the ankle.

It was a compound fracture, he was bleeding because the bone broke through the skin. The foot was turned at exactly a 90 degree angle to the right. It was Theismannesque, but I guess nobody got a good look at it?[/quote] I knew better than to look at the replay . My first thought was poor Jansen < one of the toughest & most dedicated Skin I have seen > , and I had a bad feeling that it was ugly . Lets all hope he recovers at/ near 100% . And For the 2 or 3 % of you that gloat when other players are hurt ie; Holdman / Glenn ,,,,,,, you are sad people ,, IMO and I doubt Gibbs would think much of your character ?

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[QUOTE=70Chip;350114]Wade is outstanding in pass pro at the Tackle position. If he's healthy I would play him. Don't judge Tackle Wade by what you saw from Guard Wade.[/QUOTE]
Again I have not seen him do what you think he can do as a Redskin. Sorry but this is a what have you done for me lately League. So can he do what you say he can and can he run block as well! I don't know that one way or another and you don't as well!!!

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[quote=Schneed10;350079]At your own risk, of course...

[URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20070910/SPORTS01/109100066/1023"]Win also brings a crucial loss*-*-*The Washington Times, America's Newspaper[/URL][/quote]

god damn

I hope he makes it back

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Even being at the game close to where JJ was laying, you knew the foot was not suposed to look anything like that. And his reactions while laying there were horrible,you knew it was very bad.

I hope he recovers and can see the football field again someday.....?
Thoughts & Prayers with JJ and family for a speedy recovery.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;350079]At your own risk, of course...

[URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20070910/SPORTS01/109100066/1023"]Win also brings a crucial loss*-*-*The Washington Times, America's Newspaper[/URL][/QUOTE]

Wow...I didn't realize it was THAT bad.

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[QUOTE=RobH4413;350082]"As for recovery time, Jansen said: "In 3-4 months, I should be ready to play football. It will be about six weeks in a cast with crutches. I'll be able to start in a walking boot and put some pressure on it. By 10-12 weeks, I should be running. ... I know I'll be able to bounce back from this."

From [URL="http://video1.washingtontimes.com/redskins/2007/09/jansen_talks_about_injury_ryan.html"]The Washington Times, America's Newspaper[/URL]

At least he's got a good attitude about it.[/QUOTE]

[i]In 3-4 months, I should be ready to play football.[/i]
Hell yeah Jansen! We all would love to see that! It's possible for him to only miss 11 or 12 games then. We could have him back for the important last 4 games and a playoff run!

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;350170]Even being at the game close to where JJ was laying, you knew the foot was not suposed to look anything like that. And his reactions while laying there were horrible,you knew it was very bad.

I hope he recovers and can see the football field again someday.....?
Thoughts & Prayers with JJ and family for a speedy recovery.[/QUOTE]

How did the crowd react?

I ask because I don't know how many of you saw Chad Pennington's injury (it certainly looked worse than it was) but the Jets fans started cheering when Kellen Clemens came in. And it didn't seem like a "let's rally behind the new QB and wish Chad well" kind of cheer, but more like a "Yes, Pennington's out!!!!"

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[quote=SmootSmack;350182]How did the crowd react?

I ask because I don't know how many of you saw Chad Pennington's injury (it certainly looked worse than it was) but the Jets fans started cheering when Kellen Clemens came in. And it didn't seem like a "let's rally behind the new QB and wish Chad well" kind of cheer, but more like a "Yes, Pennington's out!!!!"[/quote]


It all of a sudden got very quiet. Scarey Silence

As Big JJ was being carted off he gave the thumbs up, and the crowd went full throttle.

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hmm 3-4 months wouldnt that be 12-16 weeks meaning basically the whole regular season. he wouldnt be able to come back for the last 4 games of regular season, i hope he does dont get me wrong. just doesnt seem likely. so any words if they are putting him on IR and going to try and fill the spot? if so who will we go after?

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Does anyone know what the salry cap implications of Jansens injury are. I think this ankle is the same one that he tore his achilles on. I think he is finished.