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FRPLG 09-09-2007 09:58 PM

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I dont get the bashing of the D. The game I saw showed me our D is light years better than last year. They scored 13 whole points. If we hold a team to 13 points we are going to win 14 or 15 out of 16 games.

Cowell 09-09-2007 09:59 PM

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I thought that tackling was fine. When someone did miss a tackle there was another guy there to bring him down.

skinsfan_nn 09-09-2007 10:08 PM

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[quote=jsarno;349619]Can't really argue with Suisham.

(since when did we need him when we only threw it to him 2 times?)[/quote]

(2 times!)

Pocket$ $traight 09-09-2007 10:30 PM

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Mike Sellers. He destroyed Zach Thomas over and over again. He set the tone for a brutalization of the Dolphins.

jdockser 09-09-2007 10:34 PM

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no doubt in my mind ROCKY stepped up huge today

chrisl13 09-09-2007 10:36 PM

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ARE, no brainer

GTripp0012 09-09-2007 10:36 PM

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[quote=FRPLG;349666]I dont get the bashing of the D. The game I saw showed me our D is light years better than last year. They scored 13 whole points. If we hold a team to 13 points we are going to win 14 or 15 out of 16 games.[/quote]Under the assumption that every team we play this year will be better offensively than Miami, I was really hoping that we wouldn't give up 17 first downs. We wouldn't have if the tackling was better, but they also dropped a lot of passes. The numbers look good, and show that we really dominated that game, but I was unimpressed by the defense.

The offense was promising but flawed. O Line did a good job, Campbell played well, Randle El and the backs played great.

Outplaying the Dolphins was something we were supposed to do, but I wanted more out of this team.

Pocket$ $traight 09-09-2007 10:39 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;349701]Under the assumption that every team we play this year will be better offensively than Miami, I was really hoping that we wouldn't give up 17 first downs. We wouldn't have if the tackling was better, but they also dropped a lot of passes. The numbers look good, and show that we really dominated that game, but I was unimpressed by the defense.

The offense was promising but flawed. O Line did a good job, Campbell played well, Randle El and the backs played great.

Outplaying the Dolphins was something we were supposed to do, but I wanted more out of this team.[/quote]


You are a complete douchbag and know nothing about Redskins football. Go watch tapes of the Norv years.

SmootSmack 09-09-2007 10:42 PM

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;349704]You are a complete douchbag and know nothing about Redskins football. Go watch tapes of the Norv years.[/QUOTE]

This isn't the first time you've personally insulted GTripp on this site, and not the first time you've been warned. Take the next two weeks off.

GTripp0012 09-09-2007 10:43 PM

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;349704]You are a complete douchbag and know nothing about Redskins football. Go watch tapes of the Norv years.[/quote]I suggest you stop incriminating yourself before I embarrass you.

You have fair warning.

SmootSmack 09-09-2007 10:44 PM

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;349708]I suggest you stop incriminating yourself before I embarrass you.

You have fair warning.[/QUOTE]

Do not take this into your own hands. The mods have handled it.

GTripp0012 09-09-2007 10:44 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;349706]This isn't the first time you've personally insulted GTripp on this site, and not the first time you've been warned. Take the next two weeks off.[/quote]Thank you.

skinsfan69 09-09-2007 11:08 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;349624]Can't say enough about Rocky Mac and Montgomery today. While most of the defense looked like it was last season all over again, I am really encouraged by the second year talent on that defense. A little hope for the future.[/quote]

We held Miami to 64 yards rushing. I think that's pretty damn good. Last year that would have been 164 yards. Yes the corners were playing a little soft. But over all when you hold a team to 13 points that's doing your job. There is a big difference between this year and last year.

RobH4413 09-09-2007 11:12 PM

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I was impressed with the linebackers and the defensive line. The corners really exposed themselves as a weakness on this team, and we won't get away with tons of dropped passes against Philli.

Then again, it looked like GW wanted to give them the underneath, and they took advantage of that. Every pass play their wide receivers sold the deep routes to our corners. They're obviously very sensitive to the deep ball, and I'm assuming GW has drilled them to prevent the deep pass.

I'm hoping that they take the million yard cushion down a few yards, and pay better attention to the opponents body language. A few plays the WR wouldn't do as much as start to jog forward and Smoot just bailed out deep.... If he just paid more attention then a lot of those underneath plays could have been prevented.

I also think we didn't bring the pain yet with the blitz, I think his game plan was to back off and confuse Trent Green. If you think about it, Green was probably told to watch out for the crazy blitzes, and when they didn't come he had to just dump it off underneath.

GTripp0012 09-09-2007 11:48 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;349720]We held Miami to 64 yards rushing. I think that's pretty damn good. Last year that would have been 164 yards. Yes the corners were playing a little soft. But over all when you hold a team to 13 points that's doing your job. There is a big difference between this year and last year.[/quote]T. Green (9/9/07): 24/38, 219 yards, 1 TD
B. Johnson (9/11/06): 16/30, 223 yards, 1 TD

Dolphins runners (9/9/07): 20 att, 76 yards
Vikings runners (9/11/06): 33 att, 86 yards

Not so different?

jsarno 09-10-2007 12:28 AM

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;349741]T. Green (9/9/07): 24/38, 219 yards, 1 TD
B. Johnson (9/11/06): 16/30, 223 yards, 1 TD

Dolphins runners (9/9/07): 20 att, 76 yards
Vikings runners (9/11/06): 33 att, 86 yards

Not so different?[/QUOTE]

What about turnovers?

SmootSmack 09-10-2007 12:32 AM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;349720]We held Miami to 64 yards rushing. I think that's pretty damn good. Last year that would have been 164 yards. Yes the corners were playing a little soft. But over all when you hold a team to 13 points that's doing your job. There is a big difference between this year and last year.[/QUOTE]

Especially when you consider the way we ended last season against the Giants with Tiki getting close to 240 yards rushing on us

GTripp0012 09-10-2007 10:17 AM

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[quote=jsarno;349759]What about turnovers?[/quote]One? Turnover-wise this was not a good game for us. We threw two interceptions, caught none, and recovered all three fumbles in the game (2 of our own 1 of theirs), a pretty lucky feat. If we lose the Portis fumble and the Sellers one does [I]not [/I]roll out of bounds, we're 0-1 right now.

We didn't give up a lot of points in either game, but that doesn't mean there isn't something to worry about. Once again we gave away first downs like candy to an offense that is not very good at all. This is how last year started.

Doesn't mean I think we are doomed; far from it, but I'm much more encouraged by the offense right now because Santana has proven that these drops are not something that will be a problem down the road.

GTripp0012 09-10-2007 10:21 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;349763]Especially when you consider the way we ended last season against the Giants with Tiki getting close to 240 yards rushing on us[/quote]The run defense was pretty good. Even though the tackling was a little shoddy, my prediction of Ronnie Brown racking up 100 yards was well off the mark as the entire team only got like 75. That's a good thing. Problem is, if we continue to miss tackles, better offenses will run all over us.

We did get gashed up the middle periodically, but we made up for it by absolutely giving them nothing around the ends all day. That was very encouraging.

redskinsfanatic 09-10-2007 10:25 AM

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has to be randel el by far.i think that brandon lloyd and carlos rogers need to make sure that the door do'nt hit them in their asses on the way out of redskins park.rogers can't cover me,and that's bad since i have a limp when i walk.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-10-2007 10:27 AM

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Again, why is everyone bashing Carlos? Didn't he really only get burned once?

DEVIL'S OWN 09-10-2007 10:32 AM

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[QUOTE=jbcjr14;349393]I have to agree and with the EXCELLENT rotation with Betts today this running duo is going to be a force this year! Keep em fresh and run the hell out of it![/QUOTE]

I agree, I voted for Rocky, he was a beast, plus lets not get it twisted now, London Fletcher makes this D go!

theJBexperience 09-10-2007 10:32 AM

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[QUOTE=Paintrain;349357]When healthy, Clinton Portis is the best player on the team. Period. He proved that again today.[/QUOTE]

I agree. He pretty much singlehandedly drove us down the field in OT. Betts did well, but every time Clinton got the ball, it was at least five yards and he was moving the pile forward. I kept yelling for Gibbs to put him back in the game, and when I saw us open the OT with him on the field, I knew we'd win.

BrudLee 09-10-2007 10:33 AM

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Portis WAS overtime. Thirty four of the fifty-eight yards were him. That's such a crucial thing.

theJBexperience 09-10-2007 10:33 AM

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;349914]Again, why is everyone bashing Carlos? Didn't he really only get burned once?[/QUOTE]

He got burned once and followed that up with a nice costly Pass Interference on the next play.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-10-2007 10:38 AM

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Everyone who saw that knows it was a horrible call.

MTK 09-10-2007 10:38 AM

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I thought that PI call on Carlos was pretty lame. The ball wasn't even catchable and both Chambers and Rogers were bumping each other.

GTripp0012 09-10-2007 10:39 AM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;349914]Again, why is everyone bashing Carlos? Didn't he really only get burned once?[/quote]Because his panning out is vital to the future of our secondary (if he's a bust, we go into the draft next year with no starting caliber CBs, if he breaks out, we won't miss Springs very much at all), and every time he gets thrown at, its a completion.

Carlos made two great tackles yesterday, one on a running play, and one saving a Booker TD, and we've come to expect that from him, and thats why he deserves to stay in the starting lineup. Problem is, we are now a game into his third season, and he's still not half the cover guy Springs is. He's really got to step it up.

Right now, Rogers and Smoot are going to start at corner for us next year, and that can't sit easy with anyone right now. With all the age on the offensive line, we can't really afford to invest more in the CB position. Carlos needs to start locking down his side right away.

skinsfan69 09-10-2007 02:47 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;349741]T. Green (9/9/07): 24/38, 219 yards, 1 TD
B. Johnson (9/11/06): 16/30, 223 yards, 1 TD

Dolphins runners (9/9/07): 20 att, 76 yards
Vikings runners (9/11/06): 33 att, 86 yards

Not so different?[/quote]

I would compare the last game of last season vs. the first game this season. BIG DIFFERENCE.

Plus the biggest difference is we won and that's all that matters.

dmek25 09-10-2007 02:53 PM

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i voted for Portis, but i would have vote for the offensive line. bringing in Kendall was a great front office move. a better player then Dockery, although alot older.

hail_2_da_skins 09-10-2007 02:53 PM

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My MVP has to be Suisham. The conservative play calling put all the weight on the kicker's shoulders and he came through every time. Portis had a memorable game and so did Randle El but Suisham won the game.

irish 09-10-2007 03:00 PM

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Swish. He was 3/3 and basically an unproven kicker thrust into a key situation and he came through with flying colors.

freddyg12 09-10-2007 03:09 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;349418]Gibbs said he didn't want to risk a penalty pushing them out of range.[/quote]

I read his quotes and that sounds like playing scared to me. I'd like to think that he asked Suisham about & SS said there was no wind & the kick would be easy. I'd also like to think that Gibbs set him up to build his confidence. We could look back at this as crucial to his development. Hopefully.

theJBexperience 09-10-2007 03:13 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;349923]Everyone who saw that knows it was a horrible call.[/quote]

Yeah, only because the ball was uncatchable, but I think Trent made that throw because he could see how physical Carlos was being. It was a veteran read trying to draw the flag. A ref is always going to call a CB holding back the WR's arm from reaching for a pass.

theJBexperience 09-10-2007 03:16 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;349926]Because his panning out is vital to the future of our secondary (if he's a bust, we go into the draft next year with no starting caliber CBs, if he breaks out, we won't miss Springs very much at all), and every time he gets thrown at, its a completion.

Carlos made two great tackles yesterday, one on a running play, and one saving a Booker TD, and we've come to expect that from him, and thats why he deserves to stay in the starting lineup. Problem is, we are now a game into his third season, and he's still not half the cover guy Springs is. He's really got to step it up.

Right now, Rogers and Smoot are going to start at corner for us next year, and that can't sit easy with anyone right now. With all the age on the offensive line, we can't really afford to invest more in the CB position. Carlos needs to start locking down his side right away.[/quote]

Very well put. There's no doubt that Carlos closes in quick and is a sure tackler, just wish the coverage skills were there and he would be a solid # 1 CB.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-10-2007 03:18 PM

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I don't know guys. We were missing Springs all day yesterday and they only put up 13 points on us. I'm pretty satisfied all the way around with the D. I mean they put the ball in the air THIRTY EIGHT TIMES for an average of not even six yards a pass. Seems like the guys were doing their jobs to me.

backrow 09-10-2007 03:33 PM

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;349402]CP was a close second for me. He averaged 5.8 ypc against a very good defense; tallying almost 100 yards on 17 carries.[/QUOTE]

CP was #1 MVP. For all of the reasons above.

WillH 09-10-2007 04:43 PM

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I gotta go with Mr. Portis.

He came out strong, after many questioned his ability to be the feature back anymore.

He had our only TD.

His pass blocking was a huge factor in the little pressure JC recieved.

He is instrumental to our Offense. He is our Offense, He has been our Offense, and will be all season. Without him JC doesnt progess smoothly and we dont have a RB that can put up 6. He's The Man. This season should be built around him, and from that should come our fabled explosive offense.

SkinsFanSince91 09-10-2007 04:53 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;349328]Portis 17 carries, 98 yards, 1 TD. Who needs the preseason??

Randle El: 5 catches, 162 yards. Do we finally have a #2??

Rocky McIntosh: all over the field with a forced fumble, sack, and 9 tackles.

Suisham: 3/3 with the game winner.[/QUOTE]

Simple and plain, if Suisham misses one of his three kicks then we lose!

HE was perfect and we got the "W"

redskins159 09-10-2007 04:53 PM

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I would have to say Randle El just because he was the only reciever that really did anything the entire game. He consistantly moved the chains and provoided a deep recieving option. Brandon Llyod was nonexistant and Moss had butterfingers even though Campbell missed him a couple of times. I would like to see this unit succeed as a whole than just having one guy do all the work. Where was Cooley that entire game? Randle El had less than 400 yards all last year and already has over 150 in one game...we need balance and consistency in the passing game.


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