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724Skinsfan 09-09-2007 08:51 PM

Re: The week 1 "what the hell?" thread
 
[quote=SmootSmack;349573]We don't get another chance if he misses the kick. But if it's a botched snap or the hold is bad, or a penalty. Then it just becomes 2nd down.[/quote]

Or blocked and recovered behind the line of scrimmage, but yeah I was mistaken about getting another try after a missed field goals. Was that ever a rule? I'm still satisfied with going ahead and kicking it rather chance a turnover.

jsarno 09-09-2007 08:54 PM

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[QUOTE=Darrell_Green_28;349576]7 wasnt broken, the ball wasnt snapped[/QUOTE]


You are incorrect sir.
[i]7- All players of offensive team must be stationary at snap, [b]except one back who may be in motion parallel to scrimmage line or backward (not forward). [/b][/i]

There were two players moving, and one moving forward.

Darrell_Green_28 09-09-2007 08:54 PM

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or possibly get another PI, Holding, false start or some other penalty or even a loss of ydg.

htownskinfan 09-09-2007 08:55 PM

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[QUOTE=love them hogs;349491]Oh yeah I missed one.What the hell was up with us getting that B.S false start on the exact same motion play that we drew the other team offsides in the preseason.That exact same shift was not a penalty in the pre-season so why is it a penalty now?[/QUOTE]

differnt refs,that was def bs,I'm sure that play was designed to do that,Gibbs needs to get clarification from the nfl on that

Darrell_Green_28 09-09-2007 08:56 PM

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[quote=jsarno;349582]You are incorrect sir.
[I]7- All players of offensive team must be stationary at snap, [B]except one back who may be in motion parallel to scrimmage line or backward (not forward). [/B][/I]

There were two players moving, and one moving forward.[/quote]

Like i said the way that is worded says all players must be stationary at snap. except that one. the ball was never snapped so basically this rule doesnt apply. Though Coach did say he told the Refs that he had a "NO PLAY" Play called and that if they didnt jump offsides he was going to call a time out.

jsarno 09-09-2007 08:58 PM

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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan;349581]Or blocked and recovered behind the line of scrimmage, but yeah I was mistaken about getting another try after a missed field goals. Was that ever a rule? I'm still satisfied with going ahead and kicking it rather chance a turnover.[/QUOTE]

Only cause he hit it...if he missed it, and they got the ball with decent field position and came down to beat us, then what would you be saying.
Gibbs made 3 piss poor calls, but luckily they all ended well for us...can't do that often.

SmootSmack 09-09-2007 08:58 PM

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Kind of reminds me of all the confusion from that Packers game back in 2004 when Portis had that great TD, only to be called back on a Thrash illegal motion.

Darrell_Green_28 09-09-2007 09:01 PM

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in which #8 After a shift or huddle all players on offensive team must come to an absolute stop for at least one second with no movement of hands, feet, head, or swaying of body.

which could apply here would have to look at replay

Darrell_Green_28 09-09-2007 09:03 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;349588]Kind of reminds me of all the confusion from that Packers game back in 2004 when Portis had that great TD, only to be called back on a Thrash illegal motion.[/quote]

yeah i remember that , if im not mistaking Thrash was still in motion, which by rule was legal, they said he went forward or something

724Skinsfan 09-09-2007 09:03 PM

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[quote=jsarno;349587]Only cause he hit it...if he missed it, and they got the ball with decent field position and came down to beat us, then what would you be saying.
Gibbs made 3 piss poor calls, but luckily they all ended well for us...can't do that often.[/quote]

Like I said, good to know Suisham can hit an important 39 yarder. Kudos to Joe for showing confidence in his kicking game.

drew54 09-09-2007 09:06 PM

Re: The week 1 "what the hell?" thread
 
What the hell, why haven't we been doing this thread every week for the past 5 years.

BleedBurgundy 09-09-2007 09:11 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;349495]Yep, bad call[/QUOTE]

I don't know, it did look like Sellers went in motion before the TE stopped.

jsarno 09-09-2007 09:11 PM

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what the hell...why was Smoot left on the field for almost every defensive play?

Cowell 09-09-2007 09:12 PM

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I'm pretty sure he was starting over Springs today.

jsarno 09-09-2007 09:21 PM

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[QUOTE=Cowell;349613]I'm pretty sure he was starting over Springs today.[/QUOTE]

I just don't get it! Smoot looked horrible and should have been taken out in favor of someone else.

redsk1 09-09-2007 09:25 PM

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What the hell...

Smoot starts over Springs?????? They threw at him all day long...

Kicking the fg on 1st down in ot...a 40 yarder...glad we made it.

Btw...I thought Lloyd made a pretty good effort to try to catch the endzone pass. It just went over his hands. Not that i'm a big Lloyd supporter but you've GOT to have a qb to throw him the ball. Campbell missed a number of throws. Only week 1 though.

jbcjr14 09-09-2007 09:27 PM

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All the Phins fans here earlier this week. Can't find them...what the hell?

Cowell 09-09-2007 09:28 PM

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I agree Smoot didn't play great out there today, but what if it was Springs? We would have done better or the same?

hooskins 09-09-2007 09:34 PM

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[quote=jbcjr14;349629]All the Phins fans here earlier this week. Can't find them...what the hell?[/quote]

Two came by, one was classy the other was an a'hole.

Cowell 09-09-2007 09:39 PM

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I had a real prick Dolphins fan at the sports bar today, sadly I didn't hear his obnoxious voice after we kicked the field goal to end the game.

FRPLG 09-09-2007 09:44 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;349474]Shawn Springs? How are you not starting, could you not find your helmet a la Thurman Thomas?[/QUOTE]

Seemed like the only time Springs played was as Nickle back and when Smoot would get dinged. Weirdo for sure.

FRPLG 09-09-2007 09:45 PM

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[QUOTE=hooskins;349478]Someone mentioned this in another thread,

But ST and Landry, where the hell where you guys? It seemed like you all were nowhere near the players. I guess this becomes more of a what the hell for GW.[/QUOTE]
I think this was a function our LBs being 100% better than last year. I think ST led the team in tackles in like 13 games last year. The other three were like 1 LB and 2 other Safties. This game our LBs were making the tackles. That is good.

Cowell 09-09-2007 09:47 PM

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I think the safeties weren't much of a factor because they were going with short passes and runs up the middle a lot. When our safeties played deep they didn't throw deep.

SmootSmack 09-09-2007 09:49 PM

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[QUOTE=FRPLG;349650]Seemed like the only time Springs played was as Nickle back and when Smoot would get dinged. Weirdo for sure.[/QUOTE]

I haven't been able to confirm this, but rumor I'm hearing is it was disciplinary. Springs missed a meeting or something like that. But I'm not sure

FRPLG 09-09-2007 09:50 PM

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[QUOTE=ArcticRed;349533]Everytime the ref makes a call on the skins hes grinning from ear to ear? ..... What the hell? There were times I wanted to rip off his face!

Btw, nice call on number 44, numb nuts![/QUOTE]
They made the call, which in itself made little sense, and I said aloud to everyone around. "That f*cking John Riggins keeps jumping out of the booth and f*cking us every year." Dumb ass refs. The funny thing was watching them call the penalty on us then watching everyone reset to punt over and watching the one ref who threw the flag about 60 yards downfield looking around like "WTF?". Then he sprints up field and blows the whistle and waves his rams like an idiot. Classic.

FRPLG 09-09-2007 09:55 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;349655]I haven't been able to confirm this, but rumor I'm hearing is it was disciplinary. Springs missed a meeting or something like that. But I'm not sure[/QUOTE]
Oh geez. I am cool with like a quarter for that kind of thing but the whole game? If he were a constant trouble maker then maybe. I can't decide whether I hope this is the real explanation or not.

hooskins 09-09-2007 09:59 PM

Re: The week 1 "what the hell?" thread
 
[quote=SmootSmack;349655]I haven't been able to confirm this, but rumor I'm hearing is it was disciplinary. Springs missed a meeting or something like that. But I'm not sure[/quote]

Great, issues with the secondary again...

hooskins 09-09-2007 10:00 PM

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[quote=FRPLG;349661]Oh geez. I am cool with like a quarter for that kind of thing but the whole game? If he were a constant trouble maker then maybe. I can't decide whether I hope this is the real explanation or not.[/quote]

Well the only other possible one is that he was a bit dinged up.

SmootSmack 09-09-2007 10:15 PM

Re: The week 1 "what the hell?" thread
 
[QUOTE=FRPLG;349661]Oh geez. I am cool with like a quarter for that kind of thing but the whole game? If he were a constant trouble maker then maybe. I can't decide whether I hope this is the real explanation or not.[/QUOTE]

Well I've only heard it from one person. And it's not someone I 100% believe or can count on without confirming with someone else

724Skinsfan 09-09-2007 10:18 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;349681]Well I've only heard it from one person. And it's not someone I 100% believe or can count on without confirming with someone else[/quote]

I wonder if he had to help or simply wanted to help his dad get to Dallas. Drop him off at the airport or whatever. Sometimes you break the rules for a good reason but from a management perspective you still need to be punished.

Pocket$ $traight 09-09-2007 10:27 PM

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My comment is "what the hell" are you guys complaining about. We physically abused them and won the game. If you are looking for style points you need to follow another team.

mooby 09-10-2007 12:48 AM

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0 penalties in the first half and like 6 penalties in the second half, WTH? how does a team just become so undisciplined.

Also this WTH doesn't pertain to the Skins game, but I want to make a point of it nonetheless, because I feel it was horrible officiating. In the Bears-Chargers game, the Chargers had the ball on like the Bears 2 yard line, and one of the Bears jumped the snap really early, like there was no doubt in my mind that he started before the rest of the players started. Then everyone started moving and at the end of it, the Bears player had the ball and was saying it was a fumble by the Chargers and the Bears had recovered. The refs talked it over for a while and the Bears got to keep the ball, even though it was plain and clear that one of the Bears had jumped pre-snap and had gotten a hold of the ball when everyone started moving. I believe that was one of the worst officiating calls I've seen, and even though it didn't cost the Chargers the game, it's still something that shouldn't happen again.

Also I want to say Fred Smoot WTH? How many times have you done the interception drill and this time you let the ball hit your chest and bounce off? If we had lost the game I would be extremely pissed at that, but because we won I'm only disappointed in him. Also his play was not good today, and I seriously want to see him as the nickel corner from now on. If what Smootsmack is saying about Springs not starting because of disciplinary problems, then I hope he doesn't have any more for the rest of the season because we really need him back there. While our run defense is extremely stout, our pass defense still isn't what it should be.

mooby 09-10-2007 12:50 AM

Re: The week 1 "what the hell?" thread
 
[quote=Grim21Reaper;349690]My comment is "what the hell" are you guys complaining about. We physically abused them and won the game. If you are looking for style points you need to follow another team.[/quote]

If we were playing a team better than Miami we very easily could've lost this game. We play Philly next week, and if we play like that next week expect to lose. If we want to be contenders this season we must improve our play.

RobH4413 09-10-2007 12:56 AM

Re: The week 1 "what the hell?" thread
 
Yeah, this was definitely a very bizarre game. We need to step it up on offense if we want to compete with Philli.

I also thought it was pretty hilarious when Ladell Betts trucked Chris Samuels. What the hell was that?

jsarno 09-10-2007 12:57 AM

Re: The week 1 "what the hell?" thread
 
[QUOTE=mooby;349777]If we were playing a team better than Miami we very easily could've lost this game. We play Philly next week, and if we play like that next week expect to lose. If we want to be contenders this season we must improve our play.[/QUOTE]

Well, it's cause of our mishaps. Too many penalties and dropped balls...we correct those, and I think we played well enough to beat anyone.

BleedBurgundy 09-10-2007 06:37 AM

Re: The week 1 "what the hell?" thread
 
What's with the 8 yard cushion given to receivers? What the hell is with Carlos "Toast" Rogers giving up a TD to a 2nd string tight end? And then getting abused by Chambers in the 4th quarter? WHAT THE HELL?

Hog1 09-10-2007 07:57 AM

Re: The week 1 "what the hell?" thread
 
[quote=Lady Brave;349492]Brandon Lloyd. Why did we bring this guy to Washington?[/quote]
I think it was to challenge Randle El for the number two spot

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 09-10-2007 08:28 AM

Re: The week 1 "what the hell?" thread
 
what the hell was with me thinking I could study instead of listening to/watching the game???

ps....I watched the 4th quarter:)

redsk1 09-10-2007 08:56 AM

Re: The week 1 "what the hell?" thread
 
[quote=jsarno;349782]Well, it's cause of our mishaps. Too many penalties and dropped balls...we correct those, and I think we played well enough to beat anyone.[/quote]

You could say the same for the Dolphins...If they would have caught half of their dropped passes.

Hey, no question we were the more physical team, but you've got to put up more than 13 pts. Like i said though, only the 1st game.

squrrelco3 09-10-2007 10:09 AM

Re: The week 1 "what the hell?" thread
 
I mentioned this in the "Ugly" thread...nothing to do directly with the game...but

WTH was up with Deirdorf and Gumble in the thrid quarter...I've never seen two announcers sniffing a Head Coaches jock the way those two guys were over Cam Cameron...by the time that was over with, you would have thought he was Bill Walsh or something...I mean shy didn't they just come out of the booth and go down on the field and start sucking him off for christsakes...WTH?


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