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MonkManiac 09-11-2007 08:28 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[QUOTE=offiss;350358]Without being behind the scenes, it looks like there's some vindictiveness going on here, Springs refused to get on board with a pay cut, and now it's payback, Springs looked like he wasnt quite cutting the way he should? Awfully astute for a coach who has been playing Mark Brunell for the last 3 years, to find out after every bad performance Mark may have had an arm or leg injury? What happened to letting Springs go out on the field and fight his guts out? Gibbs constantly sings the praises of players who fight through injuries, yet Springs and the players around him say he's fine and yet he's not on the field? I have to laugh, at least have the guts to leave out the lame excuses.[/QUOTE]

Gibbs would never utilize playing time to punish a player for not taking a pay cut. Even as team president, he does not negotiate contracts or manage the salary cap.

Springs comes off as sounding petty, money-obssessed, and self-centered. True, football is a business, but Springs is a vet and should know better about what to say and what not to say to the media. Was he pissed at Gibbs for talking about it at his press conference? Maybe. But come on, OF COURSE reporters were going to ask him about it. Gibbs had to have some sort of explanation - a no comment would have been even worse - and the explanation he gave was gentler than perhaps he could have been.

Gibbs' word choice struck me as sounding an awful lot like code for "Springs was dogging it in practice last week, so we didn't start him." This doesn't sound like the Shawn Springs we all know, but there are very other plausible explanations for why he didn't start. If he was injured, he would have been on the injury report. Gibbs said that the team was worried about him earlier in the week, and the injury report was due on Friday.

Hopefully this situation is remedied in the coming days. It's not a good thing at all to hear your top corner say "I don't know what Coach Gibbs is talking about."

#56fanatic 09-11-2007 08:33 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=freddyg12;350379]There was an article in the wash post a month ago or so in which Springs was asked by the coaches about playing nickel & he said he was cool w/it as it would help extend his career. Now it sounds like he's pissed at not starting, or at least pissed at Gibbs' explanation.

Hopefully the two talk this week & it's settled. I agree w/those who said that this sounds too much like a lavar, l. coles situation. They should be over that stuff, can't expect the team to come together w/those circumstances.[/quote]


no, he was asked about playing some safety. no just nickel packages.

MTK 09-11-2007 09:06 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=MonkManiac;350384]Gibbs would never utilize playing time to punish a player for not taking a pay cut. Even as team president, he does not negotiate contracts or manage the salary cap.

[B]Springs comes off as sounding petty, money-obssessed, and self-centered.[/B] True, football is a business, but Springs is a vet and should know better about what to say and what not to say to the media. Was he pissed at Gibbs for talking about it at his press conference? Maybe. But come on, OF COURSE reporters were going to ask him about it. Gibbs had to have some sort of explanation - a no comment would have been even worse - and the explanation he gave was gentler than perhaps he could have been.

Gibbs' word choice struck me as sounding an awful lot like code for "Springs was dogging it in practice last week, so we didn't start him." This doesn't sound like the Shawn Springs we all know, but there are very other plausible explanations for why he didn't start. If he was injured, he would have been on the injury report. Gibbs said that the team was worried about him earlier in the week, and the injury report was due on Friday.

Hopefully this situation is remedied in the coming days. It's not a good thing at all to hear your top corner say "I don't know what Coach Gibbs is talking about."[/quote]

I think you're on point.

This comment by Springs caught me off guard a bit

[quote]
"Man, with my salary this year I'm not trippin,' " he said.
[/quote]

I agree that Gibbs and the coaches may have felt that Springs just hasn't earned a starting job. I'm feeling a bit of the LaVar situation all over again. I think the coaches are sending him a clear message that he needs to step up his game and [B]earn[/B] his playing time. That money comment by Springs is disappointing to me. I expect more from a proven vet like himself.

Hopefully he'll get his act in gear and get on board.

dmek25 09-11-2007 09:09 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
i don't believe that any NFL coach would try to use playing time as a punishment. springs is easily the skins best corner. that would lead to the defense playing better. that would lead to more wins. this is the bottom line in pro sports. winning

MTK 09-11-2007 09:09 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=offiss;350358]Without being behind the scenes, it looks like there's some vindictiveness going on here, Springs refused to get on board with a pay cut, and now it's payback, Springs looked like he wasnt quite cutting the way he should? Awfully astute for a coach who has been playing Mark Brunell for the last 3 years, to find out after every bad performance Mark may have had an arm or leg injury? What happened to letting Springs go out on the field and fight his guts out? Gibbs constantly sings the praises of players who fight through injuries, yet Springs and the players around him say he's fine and yet he's not on the field? I have to laugh, at least have the guts to leave out the lame excuses.[/quote]

Jeez a little grumpy over that Skins win are we?

TheMalcolmConnection 09-11-2007 09:11 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
I thought the same thing about the money comment.

I decided not to comment on it because I always do when players say crap like that and it starts a shit storm saying the player doesn't deserve the cash.

Seriously though, his comments are ALWAYS over his salary, not about wanting to help the team.

WillH 09-11-2007 09:14 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
To all that are calling this a lavar type situation:

When they did that whole thing with lavar it wasn't over a contract dispute. Lavar had a degenerative knee problem, meaning the cells and tissue in his knee were constantly deteriorating, he was never going to be the same player again. The coaches had to find other options. Lavar may have been slighted, but it was undeniably good for the team.

If springs to has some debilitating injury, and will never be the same player again, then yes this is another lavar situation, and yes the coaches should see what else they have in smoot and rogers.

But we have heard nothing to suggest that so I will have to assume there is simply some miscommunication. Gibbs said he didn't look sharp in practice, but looked good come game time, and we all know Gibbs makes his decisions based on how people look in practice. So if he looks as good in practice this week as Gibbs thought he looked in pregame warm ups Sunday, he will be starting in Philly.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-11-2007 09:19 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
For me, I'm thinking that if Springs really IS "doggin' it" in practice and ends up on the bench all year, this doesn't really speak highly of him if he KNOWS they'll cut him after this season.

If he wants someone to pick him up and play, he needs to show other teams that he's NOT injury prone and that he IS a team player. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt until next week.

#56fanatic 09-11-2007 09:23 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=Mattyk72;350396]I think you're on point.

This comment by Springs caught me off guard a bit



I agree that Gibbs and the coaches may have felt that Springs just hasn't earned a starting job. I'm feeling a bit of the LaVar situation all over again. I think the coaches are sending him a clear message that he needs to step up his game and [B]earn[/B] his playing time. That money comment by Springs is disappointing to me. I expect more from a proven vet like himself.

Hopefully he'll get his act in gear and get on board.[/quote]



The money comment was a pointed comment to the coaching staff and Snyder. I think he believes this all has to do with him not redoing his contract. Which i sort of believe as well. You can't tell me the coaches know his body more than himself. He said he is as healthy as he has been in a while. If they were concerned about him being hurt, then don't put him on the field at all. As far as this sounding like the LaVar issue, it does sound a bit similar. Both went through a little contract thing, then all of the sudden they can't play up the a certain level. I just find that hard to believe. That was proven wrong w/ LaVar at the end of the 2005 season after putting him back in. I hope springs get his chance to play. Our secondary needs him to play more than just Nickel.

SmootSmack 09-11-2007 10:41 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[QUOTE=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;350309]what would you do for a klondike bar?

would you act like a monkey....

would you ...kill a man............[/QUOTE]

Were you watching that episode of Family Guy also yesterday?

RobH4413 09-11-2007 10:45 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=WillH;350407]To all that are calling this a lavar type situation:

When they did that whole thing with lavar it wasn't over a contract dispute. Lavar had a degenerative knee problem, meaning the cells and tissue in his knee were constantly deteriorating, he was never going to be the same player again. The coaches had to find other options. Lavar may have been slighted, but it was undeniably good for the team.

If springs to has some debilitating injury, and will never be the same player again, then yes this is another lavar situation, and yes the coaches should see what else they have in smoot and rogers.

But we have heard nothing to suggest that so I will have to assume there is simply some miscommunication. Gibbs said he didn't look sharp in practice, but looked good come game time, and we all know Gibbs makes his decisions based on how people look in practice. So if he looks as good in practice this week as Gibbs thought he looked in pregame warm ups Sunday, he will be starting in Philly.[/quote]
Lavar with a degenerative brain,knee,foot,hand,face, and arm condition was still better than Warrick Holdman.

He absolutely was put in the dog house. We saw that Lavar was still capable in Washington when he played, and in New York up until he got hurt again (achilles). Warrick Holdman hasn't been, and never will be close to the linebacker Lavar was, even while recovered from injury.

What's undeniable is that Rocky would have been better for the team to start. He was tearing it up on special teams, and when he finally got in he did great. Dale Lindsay really screwed up, and he got fired because of it.

"Man, with my salary this year I'm not trippin'," Is a STAB. It's a direct attack at Snyder, and anyone who's tried to get him to lower his salary. I think the Danny has a problem with him, and it makes me curious as to the influence Dan Snyder has on things like this. Can he get players to not play as much?

My gut thinks that Joe is interested in winning football games first, and dealing with grudges second, but who really knows. Maybe the Dan tries to go through other routes than Gibbs; ie Lindsay last year?

For the record; I don't think Springs is wrong for not reducing his salary. The NFL is a business, and he's been more than earning of his contract. He's still our best corner, and if he can stay healthy he will earn his money.

My hope for this is that it will blow over, because not only is Springs right, but he's very good. This defense can't perform as well without him, and the Danny will have to give his ego a back seat, and let him play.

freddyg12 09-11-2007 10:50 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=WillH;350407]To all that are calling this a lavar type situation:

When they did that whole thing with lavar it wasn't over a contract dispute. Lavar had a degenerative knee problem, meaning the cells and tissue in his knee were constantly deteriorating, he was never going to be the same player again. The coaches had to find other options. Lavar may have been slighted, but it was undeniably good for the team.

If springs to has some debilitating injury, and will never be the same player again, then yes this is another lavar situation, and yes the coaches should see what else they have in smoot and rogers.

But we have heard nothing to suggest that so I will have to assume there is simply some miscommunication. Gibbs said he didn't look sharp in practice, but looked good come game time, and we all know Gibbs makes his decisions based on how people look in practice. So if he looks as good in practice this week as Gibbs thought he looked in pregame warm ups Sunday, he will be starting in Philly.[/quote]

"that whole thing w/Lavar" started w/a contract dispute, a fairly major & public one at that. Lavar believed his agents, who said the team slighted him $6.5 mil in his contract, yet the agents acknowledged not reading the contract as they were under pressure to sign before a deadline. Add to that the Danny hates the Poston bros, Lavar's agents.

That was the beginning of Lavar's downfall in DC. You can try & separate the issue w/his knee, but the bad feelings & the public statements made by both sides over the contract definitely had something to do with it.

Even if it was just a matter of how Lavar's attitude changed in practice & around the coaches, it still affected the whole situation.

Could it be that Springs' likewise has become a little negative since they asked him to take a cut? Sure, could also be that the danny tells Gibbs & co. to sit players sometimes. He supposedly threatened Coles w/that.

freddyg12 09-11-2007 10:56 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=RobH4413;350458]Lavar with a degenerative brain,knee,foot,hand,face, and arm condition was still better than Warrick Holdman.

He absolutely was put in the dog house. We saw that Lavar was still capable in Washington when he played, and in New York up until he got hurt again (achilles). Warrick Holdman hasn't been, and never will be close to the linebacker Lavar was, even while recovered from injury.

What's undeniable is that Rocky would have been better for the team to start. He was tearing it up on special teams, and when he finally got in he did great. Dale Lindsay really screwed up, and he got fired because of it.

"Man, with my salary this year I'm not trippin'," Is a STAB. It's a direct attack at Snyder, and anyone who's tried to get him to lower his salary. I think the Danny has a problem with him, and it makes me curious as to the influence Dan Snyder has on things like this. Can he get players to not play as much?

My gut thinks that Joe is interested in winning football games first, and dealing with grudges second, but who really knows. Maybe the Dan tries to go through other routes than Gibbs; ie Lindsay last year?

For the record; I don't think Springs is wrong for not reducing his salary. The NFL is a business, and he's been more than earning of his contract. He's still our best corner, and if he can stay healthy he will earn his money.

My hope for this is that it will blow over, because not only is Springs right, but he's very good. This defense can't perform as well without him, and the Danny will have to give his ego a back seat, and let him play.[/quote]

Well put, you posted just before I did. That's the question, who is making the call on Springs not starting? and what's up w/this injury statement?

It does worry me that the danny might be doing the things you mention, especially if he's going through other coaches. I don't see Gibbs sitting someone over a contract issue, but if that player started to act negatively & was a problem in practice, that's another issue. That may have been the case w/Lavar, as he's not one to bite his tongue, but w/Springs it doesn't sound right. He seems much more savvy w/regard to PR & business.

RMSkins 09-11-2007 11:05 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
This is very simple really, Springs is way better than Smoot, and he needs to be starting period. The fact that Smoot beat out Springs is ludicrous, and I don't buy it for one second. If GW thinks we can return to top 10 form on defense with Smoot starting over Springs, then GW has lost his mind.

MTK 09-11-2007 11:24 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
I don't think this has anything to do with Snyder in the least bit. I just can't imagine Gibbs being comfortable with Snyder meddling, and I can't imagine Snyder stepping on Gibbs' toes like that.

Anytime there's a situation like this, I think we tend to over-analyze. It doesn't always have to be some sort of sinister conspiracy theory. Sometimes the most simple answer makes the most sense.

GTripp0012 09-11-2007 11:33 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=WillH;350407]To all that are calling this a lavar type situation:

When they did that whole thing with lavar it wasn't over a contract dispute. Lavar had a degenerative knee problem, meaning the cells and tissue in his knee were constantly deteriorating, he was never going to be the same player again. The coaches had to find other options. Lavar may have been slighted, but it was undeniably good for the team.

If springs to has some debilitating injury, and will never be the same player again, then yes this is another lavar situation, and yes the coaches should see what else they have in smoot and rogers.

But we have heard nothing to suggest that so I will have to assume there is simply some miscommunication. Gibbs said he didn't look sharp in practice, but looked good come game time, and we all know Gibbs makes his decisions based on how people look in practice. So if he looks as good in practice this week as Gibbs thought he looked in pregame warm ups Sunday, he will be starting in Philly.[/quote]Degenerative knee or not, Lavar played great in 2005. Granted, thats the last time he's been relavant, but it certainly helped a ton in our playoff run.

Springs seems like an identical situation. He really needs to be out there. If 2007 is the last time Springs is relevant, so be it. We need him this year to boost a playoff run.

GTripp0012 09-11-2007 11:39 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=RMSkins;350476]This is very simple really, Springs is way better than Smoot, and he needs to be starting period. The fact that Smoot beat out Springs is ludicrous, and I don't buy it for one second. If GW thinks we can return to top 10 form on defense with Smoot starting over Springs, then GW has lost his mind.[/quote]I don't think for one second that Williams thinks Smoot is better than Springs. I do think he believes that he can replace Springs and still be successful. Heck, he sat the dude in the playoff game against TB, thinking he could completely shut down the Bucs O without him, and he ended up being right.

SmootSmack 09-11-2007 11:43 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;350491]I don't think this has anything to do with Snyder in the least bit. I just can't imagine Gibbs being comfortable with Snyder meddling, and I can't imagine Snyder stepping on Gibbs' toes like that.

Anytime there's a situation like this, I think we tend to over-analyze. It doesn't always have to be some sort of sinister conspiracy theory. Sometimes the most simple answer makes the most sense.[/QUOTE]

Occam's razor baby!

RobH4413 09-11-2007 11:43 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=Mattyk72;350491]I don't think this has anything to do with Snyder in the least bit. I just can't imagine Gibbs being comfortable with Snyder meddling, and I can't imagine Snyder stepping on Gibbs' toes like that.

Anytime there's a situation like this, I think we tend to over-analyze. It doesn't always have to be some sort of sinister conspiracy theory. Sometimes the most simple answer makes the most sense.[/quote]
I tend to agree with you here... However sometimes Ockhams razor lets the truth slip through.

Also, like someone pointed out earlier... Snyder bullied the hell out of Coles about his contract. Maybe there is more than meets the eye here. I definitely think there's room for some healthy speculation.

I'd certainly hope this isn't the case, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

RobH4413 09-11-2007 11:45 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=SmootSmack;350503]Occam's razor baby![/quote]

damnit! beat me to it!

and you spelled it right

skinsfan69 09-11-2007 11:45 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=heybigstar;350299]My gut feeling is that Springs is not on great terms with Williams, Gibbs, and / or Snyder.. He just said this to the post:

Springs said. "[B]I don't know what Coach Gibbs is talking about[/B]." Springs, who rebuffed requests for him to slash his salary in the offseason, said that he is not anticipating a quick change to his starting status. "Start? I doubt it," Springs said. "Usually when you start the season off like that, that's probably the way it is."

Springs said that he is okay with his role, and was not shocked to be on the bench, though privately some players said that the coaches did not clarify the starting situation with the corners until game day, and did not speak with them to clarify their status. Springs laughed that off.

"[B]Man, with my salary this year I'm not trippin,[/B]' " he said.

The two bolded comments look like shots at Gibbs and Snyder.[/quote]

Springs is already hurt. He's clashing with the coaches. He's bitter about the team asking him to take a pay cut. He's being cocky about how much $ he makes. This is w/out question his last year with this team. But right now we need him cause Smoot looked so bad on Sun. I see why Minn. got rid of him. Chambers is a good WR but jeez. If I remember correctly isn't Smoot suppose to be a bump and run corner?

Chief X_Phackter 09-11-2007 12:59 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
Are we still 100% sure that Archuleta was the mole in the locker room last year? I personally believe it was Archuleta, but hmmmm. Obviously we don't know the whole story, only soundbites and sporadic media coverage, and a lot of it could be taken out of context.

I hope this is a whole lot of nothing. Springs should start, period. Bring in Rogers for a third CB.

offiss 09-11-2007 01:12 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[QUOTE=MonkManiac;350384]Gibbs would never utilize playing time to punish a player for not taking a pay cut. Even as team president, he does not negotiate contracts or manage the salary cap.

Springs comes off as sounding petty, money-obssessed, and self-centered. True, football is a business, but Springs is a vet and should know better about what to say and what not to say to the media. Was he pissed at Gibbs for talking about it at his press conference? Maybe. But come on, OF COURSE reporters were going to ask him about it. Gibbs had to have some sort of explanation - a no comment would have been even worse - and the explanation he gave was gentler than perhaps he could have been.

Gibbs' word choice struck me as sounding an awful lot like code for "Springs was dogging it in practice last week, so we didn't start him." This doesn't sound like the Shawn Springs we all know, but there are very other plausible explanations for why he didn't start. If he was injured, he would have been on the injury report. Gibbs said that the team was worried about him earlier in the week, and the injury report was due on Friday.

Hopefully this situation is remedied in the coming days. It's not a good thing at all to hear your top corner say "I don't know what Coach Gibbs is talking about."[/QUOTE]

Really? I remember the comments made to L.Coles by Snyder, something like watching the games on TV.

mlmpetert 09-11-2007 02:18 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;350527]Are we still 100% sure that Archuleta was the mole in the locker room last year? I personally believe it was Archuleta, but hmmmm. Obviously we don't know the whole story, only soundbites and sporadic media coverage, and a lot of it could be taken out of context.

I hope this is a whole lot of nothing. Springs should start, period. Bring in Rogers for a third CB.[/quote]

I allways thought it was Springs. I thought most people thought it was Springs. I'm glad he did it though, I think its humbled GW and brought a lot of the disfunction out of the coaching staff.

I hope they give the starting pos. back to Springs.

Dont teams have to report injuries by Thursday?

MTK 09-11-2007 02:24 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;350527]Are we still 100% sure that Archuleta was the mole in the locker room last year? I personally believe it was Archuleta, but hmmmm. Obviously we don't know the whole story, only soundbites and sporadic media coverage, and a lot of it could be taken out of context.

I hope this is a whole lot of nothing. Springs should start, period. Bring in Rogers for a third CB.[/quote]

I thought it was quite obvious that it was AA.

He's not here, right?

MTK 09-11-2007 02:25 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=mlmpetert;350564]I allways thought it was Springs. I thought most people thought it was Springs. I'm glad he did it though, I think its humbled GW and brought a lot of the disfunction out of the coaching staff.

I hope they give the starting pos. back to Springs.

Dont teams have to report injuries by Thursday?[/quote]

I never understood why people thought it was Springs.

hooskins 09-11-2007 02:28 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=Mattyk72;350571]I never understood why people thought it was Springs.[/quote]

Um I am almost positive it wasn't Springs. He was quoted numerous times after the incident saying he didn't say such a thing because he was never raised to talk behind someones back like that. He was also somewhat upset the media thought it was him.

I dont see how it couldnt be AA.

MonkManiac 09-11-2007 02:32 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[QUOTE=offiss;350534]Really? I remember the comments made to L.Coles by Snyder, something like watching the games on TV.[/QUOTE]

That's Snyder, not Gibbs.

SmootSmack 09-11-2007 02:47 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
Is anyone else peeved by the misplaced apostrophe?

hooskins 09-11-2007 02:48 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=SmootSmack;350598]Is anyone else peeved by the misplaced apostrophe?[/quote]

Yeah I am, but I thought I might be an ass to mention it. Fix it SS!

WillH 09-11-2007 03:47 PM

Re: Gibbs hinted that Springs is hiding an injury
 
Whether Springs is bitter about he contract dispute or was taking a STAB at the coaches or not, I think it is safe to say that Gibbs is not one to let the size of ones contract or there unwillingness to take a paycut affect the way he coaches his team.

It is possible, however, that Springs' attitude toward the coaching staff has had an effect on his playing time, whether it is directly related, or he is just not performing well in practice as a result.

I have to assume that the blame should fall on Springs for any such controversy. The NFL is a business and if you cannot separate contract dealings from gameplay then you are not being a professional.

It seems to me that Gibbs was being honest when he said the decision was based off what they had seen in practice, and that Springs WILL start at some point this season.

If those comments were truly made by Springs, I think it was way of base and misguided. He was probably just frustrated that he didn't start, and rather then take the responsibility on himself he placed it elsewhere. BAD MOVE

Certainly this is all speculation, but I think it is more likely then some FO conspiracy against good players, manifested within the coaches decisions.

#56fanatic 09-11-2007 04:08 PM

Re: Gibbs hinted that Springs is hiding an injury
 
As JC from the post redskin insider said : it does seem to be some sort of punishment on the benching of Springs. He is generally around Redskin park most of the week, practices and meetings, and says that Springs is the best corner they have. He does not feel its anything to do with injury.

like i said earlier, if is in injured then why was he playing at all??? Also, doesn't Gibbs cherish the players that play nicked up, that fight on the field. This stinks of Snyder and his personal vendatas(forgive me if that is spelled wrong)

luvstar99 09-11-2007 05:43 PM

Re: Gibbs hinted that Springs is hiding an injury
 
The entire Springs situation is starting to sound like a Lavar repeat in 2007.

mlmpetert 09-11-2007 07:02 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=Mattyk72;350571]I never understood why people thought it was Springs.[/quote]

I wish I had a good reason why I thought/think it was Springs. I guess just a gut feeling with influence from the media.

Either way just saw his interview on Sports Net and he said that he doesnt care who starts that it doesnt matter, whatever it takes to win. But he said it with a smerk and kinda "whatever" attitude. I cant really describe the way he said it, but it definately wasnt sincere.

I think in high school you could describe whats going on here as "drama", hopefully not anything to big yet. I really hope theres no bitterness or spite between GW and Springs.

SmootSmack 09-13-2007 02:29 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;350571]I never understood why people thought it was Springs.[/QUOTE]

I thought Tom Friend had said it wasn't Springs, I'll see if I can dig that up.

As for Springs claiming to be fully healthy, maybe he is but when's the last time any player admitted to being hurt (short of being on IR)? Players always say they're fine until they absolutely can't take the field.

70Chip 09-13-2007 02:38 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=SmootSmack;351353]I thought Tom Friend had said it wasn't Springs, I'll see if I can dig that up.

As for Springs claiming to be fully healthy, maybe he is but when's the last time any player admitted to being hurt (short of being on IR)? Players always say they're fine until they absolutely can't take the field.[/quote]


Especially since he will be looking for a new contract next year. He would like to be able to say he was completely healthy this whole entire season. Being tagged as injury-prone diminishes his market value.

dmek25 09-13-2007 06:22 AM

Re: Gibbs hinted that Springs is hiding an injury
 
i just think its been so long since Springs has been fully healthy, he doesn't know how that feels anymore. and not to beat a dead horse. but... if he is 100%, lets get him on the field as much as possible

MTK 09-13-2007 08:24 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=mlmpetert;350780]I wish I had a good reason why I thought/think it was Springs. I guess just a gut feeling with influence from the media.

Either way just saw his interview on Sports Net and he said that he doesnt care who starts that it doesnt matter, whatever it takes to win. But he said it with a smerk and kinda "whatever" attitude. I cant really describe the way he said it, but it definately wasnt sincere.

I think in high school you could describe whats going on here as "drama", hopefully not anything to big yet. I really hope theres no bitterness or spite between GW and Springs.[/quote]

If it was him there's no way the team would have brought him back. Why would you want a guy like that in the locker room??

SmootSmack 09-14-2007 08:03 PM

Re: Gibbs hinted that Springs is hiding an injury
 
So is it Fred Smoot's turn this week to have the "hamstring injury"?

[url=http://www.redskins.com/team/injuryreport.jsp]Washington Redskins[/url]

Good article in Today's Wash Post (I think it was today's) about how the corners will be rotated all year to confuse the opponents...and the corners themselves, apparently.


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