Re: Randy Thomas torn tricep
 

Gibbs says Thomas will be operated on tomorrow which means it is a significant tear or whatever the terminology is. They are waiting until tomorrow to make a decision on his status, perhaps holding out hope that he can rturn, but you have to think he will most likely join Jansen on IR. Gibbs had high praise for Fabini and indicated that he would continue to be the starter.

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Man, that is the worst news. We are two down and only two weeks in. Time to suck it up and hopefully the depth holds up.

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Thank the lord we signed these two vets

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damn...

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big loss, hopefully he can be back at some point this season, until then its fabini and free agents...

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will w and k vincent aren't viable starters. fabini or a trade are the only real options really.

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Adam Scheffter just reported that Thomas is out 10-12 weeks.

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Adam Schefter reported on NFL Network that Thomas is out 10-12 weeks. Hopefully this is accurate and RT will be back the last half of the year.

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Wow, this is the last guy I wanted to lose. I personally think he is or was the best man on our line.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;353938]Adam Schefter reported on NFL Network that Thomas is out 10-12 weeks. Hopefully this is accurate and RT will be back the last half of the year.[/QUOTE]

Beat you by mere seconds.

Mods: time to adjust the title of this thread, or is it worthy of a new thread?

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[quote=skinsfan69;353938]Adam Schefter reported on NFL Network that Thomas is out 10-12 weeks. Hopefully this is accurate and RT will be back the last half of the year.[/quote]


The real question is do we put him on IR and free up a roster spot, or hold on to him with the chance he MAY be able to play in 12 weeks for the final 2-3 games? Im leaning toward IR and sign a vet.

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I would like to see him on IR. I mean what if he comes back say in 9 weeks and can't play 100%. I would rather see a 100% Randy Thomas next year than a 80% Randy at the end of the season risking further injury to him.

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I can't resist the urge to take another shot at the NFL's roster rules.

This is a prime example. With injuries becoming more and more of a factor in what makes or breaks a team, there should be no big dilemma for teams in this situation. Allow Thomas to take the time he needs to get healthy, and let us bring someone else in. When he's back from injury -- let him play.

The same thing happened to us in 2005. WR David Patten got hurt, but was ready to go by season's end just in time for the playoffs, but since we had to place him on injured reserve, we were stuck with the likes of Taylor Jacobs and Jimmy Farris.

Why won't the NFL change this absurd rule?

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hope we dont put him on IR. he could be back by week 12 or by week 14, leaving 3-5 games for him to possibly play in, any the playoffs if we make them. hes that good, we need to keep him off of IR if there is a decent chance of him returning

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;352892]Were screwed!![/quote]

If Coach Gibbs had that kind of attitude he would'nt have won those three Super Bowl rings. Be patient, we're off to a very good start, and this isn't the first time Randy's been injured for significant time. I believe he was out for several games during the '05 playoff year, was he not, and things were just fine then!

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Well he is not on IR. And once you are on IR you can't off it until the next season.

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There's only so many injuries like this a team can sustain.

I think in the Super Bowl year of '91 there was only one significant injury -- Alvin Walton maybe? He was replaced by Danny Copeland who stepped up a had a great year.

Pure luck with injuries is as big a part of this game as anything else, and two games into the season, we've had NONE of it.

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[QUOTE]Ray Lewis had a torn tricep week one and was back week 2.[/QUOTE]

Ray Lewis didn't need surgery either!!!

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;353963]There's only so many injuries like this a team can sustain.

I think in the Super Bowl year of '91 there was only one significant injury -- Alvin Walton maybe? He was replaced by Danny Copeland who stepped up a had a great year.

Pure luck with injuries is as big a part of this game as anything else, and two games into the season, we've had NONE of it.[/QUOTE]

In my opinion Joe Gibbs best coaching performance with the Skins was the 92/93 (The season he retired) We were decimated in the Offensive line and defense and yet managed to beat the Vikings in Minnesota and almost made a heroic comeback in San Francisco but lost on a Brian Mitchell fumble, who was huge in both of those games. The offensive line had like 3 3rd stringers starting and playing. Joe can do it again, how about the strike season against the Cowboys? They had 7 starters (all pretty much pro bowlers) that crossed the picket line and the skins didn't have a single starter and yet we managed to beat them in Dallas of all places. Enough said Joe is KING!!!

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wonder if we just cut someone to open a roster spot and sign a Oline man for depth until RT comes back? who would be out there thats good we can get for decent pay?

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[quote=paulskinsfan;353948]The real question is do we put him on IR and free up a roster spot, or hold on to him with the chance he MAY be able to play in 12 weeks for the final 2-3 games? Im leaning toward IR and sign a vet.[/quote]

Lets say it's 10 weeks. You have the bye so that's 9 so at best he could be back by the 11th or 12th game?? If we are in the playoff hunt then you hold on to him.

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I'm an avid weight lifter and I played some football a long time ago. I get joint pains all the time. But how the hell do you tear tri and bi muscles? The whole muscle is off the bone. This injury seems to be a common injury lately. Any doctors out there?

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[quote=Beemnseven;353957]I can't resist the urge to take another shot at the NFL's roster rules.

This is a prime example. With injuries becoming more and more of a factor in what makes or breaks a team, there should be no big dilemma for teams in this situation. Allow Thomas to take the time he needs to get healthy, and let us bring someone else in. When he's back from injury -- let him play.

The same thing happened to us in 2005. WR David Patten got hurt, but was ready to go by season's end just in time for the playoffs, but since we had to place him on injured reserve, we were stuck with the likes of Taylor Jacobs and Jimmy Farris.

Why won't the NFL change this absurd rule?[/quote]

I agree. Each team should be allowed say two exemptions for injured players expected to return. This would allow teams to deal with injuies like this without allowing them to stockpile talent.

In thinking more about this situation, I think we should keep Thomas on the roster (assuming he has successful surgery and can return in 10 or 12 weeks), cut Bodiford, and sign another guard for depth.

I thought the Redskins were being overly hopeful about him returning, but apparently after the surgery he will be near 100% once the healing process is finished.

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If there are roster concerns, we have 6 WRs on the active roster right now. This is peculiar, because we don't have any 5 WR sets. We'll see a WR released if there is any chance Thomas can return.

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[QUOTE=70Chip;354085]I agree. Each team should be allowed say two exemptions for injured players expected to return. This would allow teams to deal with injuies like this without allowing them to stockpile talent.

In thinking more about this situation, I think we should keep Thomas on the roster (assuming he has successful surgery and can return in 10 or 12 weeks), cut Bodiford, and sign another guard for depth.

I thought the Redskins were being overly hopeful about him returning, but apparently after the surgery he will be near 100% once the healing process is finished.[/QUOTE]

The problem with this is that teams with a lot of money (say, us) could use a temporary spot to circumvent the salary cap.

From what I understand of Thomas' injury, he was undergoing surgery [U]today[/U]. I think Schefter's timetable is wildly irresponsible considering he hasn't been opened up. I certainly [I]hope[/I] it will be 10-12 weeks, but Greg Oden thought he was getting scoped earlier this week, too.

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[QUOTE=BrudLee;354092]If there are roster concerns, we have 6 WRs on the active roster right now. This is peculiar, because we don't have any 5 WR sets. We'll see a WR released if there is any chance Thomas can return.[/QUOTE]

If I was Brandon Lloyd I'd be nervous. He better start performing or he will be the one released (if the cap allows).

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I don't expect Thomas to be back this season and even if he is, there is no telling what kind of shape he will be in physically...it will take a game or two after he comes back to get back in playing condition. I think we should take this opportunity to get a young guard (with promise) and develop him over this season, with the intention of eventually moving him to the left side. That way when/if Thomas gets back this season we will have depth as well as a future prospect to start on the left side next year (aka a permanent replacement for Dock).

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Charles Rogers is available yall should go snag him since another experienced lineman is down. LOL LOL

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we are SO f***in' screwed!!

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[QUOTE=Skinner;354372]we are SO f***in' screwed!![/QUOTE]

That's the spirit

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[quote=Skinner;354372]we are SO f***in' screwed!![/quote]

Oh please, put a little thought into your post.

Fabini and Wade both played well, and they are trying guys out for depth or to possibly start.

Of course it hurts RT going down for an extended period of time or even the year. But it's not the end of the world!

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[quote=Blue Star;354361]Charles Rogers is available yall should go snag him since another experienced lineman is down. LOL LOL[/quote]

We'll give you Brandon Lloyd since you're missing a receiver. "LOL LOL" :cheeky-sm

Your team has no room to talk about injuries. :)