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I can't stand that little punk Romo, words can't describe how overrated and arrogant he is. I hope he flames out again this season like he did last season. My best memory of Romo so far is when he fumbled that snap on the field goal attempt last season against Seattle. That was classic! I hope last night was a sign of things to come! For just next Sunday at least I'll say, GO PATRIOTS!!!!!

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I was shocked that Romo threw so many picks too, but the Bills played this guy exactly the way I would have played him. Dropping as many guys into coverage as possible. He's great on the move and outside the pocket, I say spy him and make in stay in the pocket and beat you with his arm. If you still manage to stop the run while doing this (never easy) you'll be set. Unless Barber starts then it's not that tough to believe that this could work.

That's the gameplan everyone started using last year, first it was: put pressure on the young guy, then it became: confuse him with your coverages and it worked. He looked mediocre at best down the stretch and that's why. For the life of me I couldn't figure out why so many teams felt the need to keep bringing heat, he's a shifty guy who can make you miss and still complete passes, pressure doesn't phase him enough, so I say, go with exotic coverages.

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[quote=Southpaw;361826]You misunderstand my intention. I'm not one of the people that tries to act like "Romo sucks" simply because he's a Cowboy, but I was fairly certain that he would come back down to Earth at some point this season, and it appears that it happened last night. Of course I don't expect him to have another five pick game, but he's also not the second coming of Brett Favre like the media seems to think.

And as far as scoring twice in 20 seconds; it was actually once in 2+ minutes, and then a 19 yard drive after an onside kick. Do that against New England and I'll be impressed.[/quote]

He couldn't carry Favre's jockstrap!

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[QUOTE=ncskinsfanec;361842]I can't stand that little punk Romo, words can't describe how overrated and arrogant he is. I hope he flames out again this season like he did last season. My best memory of Romo so far is when he fumbled that snap on the field goal attempt last season against Seattle. That was classic! I hope last night was a sign of things to come! For just next Sunday at least I'll say, GO PATRIOTS!!!!![/QUOTE]

WERD...I can't wait until the Patriots finally drive a big stake into the heart of that vampire that is the Cowboys...DIE, COWBOYS, DIE!!!

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[quote=sandtrapjack;361811]You are 100% correct, because Gibbs would have pulled Campbell after the 3rd or 4th INT instead of maintaining faith in his QB.

Say what you want, he had the worst possible game a QB could ever have, EXCEPT for the fact that even though he was playing crappy, even though he almost single handedly gave the game away, when the game was on the line he still drove his team downfield for 2 scores in 20 seconds to win.

Say what you want, but nothing diminishes that fact.

There are only a very small handful of QB's in the league that have that type of "moxy".[/quote]

I wouldn't chalk it up to "moxy" so much as I would chalk it up to the Bills totally giving that game away.

I'm reading a lot about how the "Cowboys played better because they wanted it more." Sometimes, that's just total BS. If the Bills do the NON-IDIOT thing and run the ball and settle for the FG, that game is out of reach, but no, instead they try to pass and get a TD for NO reason.

The onside kicks, the coverage, I chalk it up to ineptitude on a magnificent scale to lose that game.

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;361811]You are 100% correct, because Gibbs would have pulled Campbell after the 3rd or 4th INT instead of maintaining faith in his QB.

Say what you want, he had the worst possible game a QB could ever have, EXCEPT for the fact that even though he was playing crappy, even though he almost single handedly gave the game away, when the game was on the line he still drove his team downfield for 2 scores in 20 seconds to win.

Say what you want, but nothing diminishes that fact.

There are only a very small handful of QB's in the league that have that type of "moxy".[/QUOTE]

Actually something does diminish that fact...the Bills are 31st in total defense. Only 1 team is worse than the Bills, and they handled you well. That doesn't bode well for you.

Also, EVERY Qb has that kind of "moxy" or they wouldn't be a QB. Not hard to drive off the 2nd worst defense in the entire league.

Fact is, everyone is sucking Romo's nutts, when he has done nothing to deserve it. Campbell is a better QB and he doesn't get any publicity other than in the DC area...even then Romo gets more national attention than Campbell gets in his own town.

Campbell threw for almost 250 yards and 2 tds (no turnovers) with a bag of nutts and misfits thrown together at the last minute, you have one of the best receivers in the league and still he created 6 turnovers. Yet he is still exhaulted...wonder why that is? The media is elevating Romo to Manning / Brady type status, and there is no way he deserves it.
No one is saying he sucks...he doesn't. He's good...but not great.

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[quote=angryssg;361550]Sick or not, I need him for fantasy. He better not do that shit again the rest of the year, unless it's against Washington.[/quote]

This is exactly why I don't like or participate in Fantasy...... There is no way I could cheer or wish that people like ROMO throw TD's or even do well..... It makes me sick to think about it...... The one year I did particpate was the year we went to the playoffs with Norvo... I had the Redskins Defense..All their QB's Even Backups...RB... ect ect...


Oh btw that year i lost in the Championship Rd.... 2nd out of 14....

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[quote=sandtrapjack;361811]You are 100% correct, because Gibbs would have pulled Campbell after the 3rd or 4th INT instead of maintaining faith in his QB.

Say what you want, he had the worst possible game a QB could ever have, EXCEPT for the fact that even though he was playing crappy, even though he almost single handedly gave the game away, when the game was on the line he still drove his team downfield for 2 scores in 20 seconds to win.

Say what you want, but nothing diminishes that fact.

There are only a very small handful of QB's in the league that have that type of "moxy".[/quote]


Moxy?

For completing two five yard passes against the 32nd ranked defense (now 31st) at the end of the game to get into field goal position?

That = Moxy?

He should be buying the entire defense dinner, and slobbin' Folk's knob on command for the rest of the season.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;361811]You are 100% correct, because Gibbs would have pulled Campbell after the 3rd or 4th INT instead of maintaining faith in his QB.

Say what you want, he had the worst possible game a QB could ever have, EXCEPT for the fact that even though he was playing crappy, even though he almost single handedly gave the game away, when the game was on the line he still drove his team downfield for 2 scores in 20 seconds to win.

Say what you want, but nothing diminishes that fact.

There are only a very small handful of QB's in the league that have that type of "moxy".[/quote]
Sorry Gibbs stands behind his QB as much as any coach I have ever seen. Brunell is a fine example as everyone was calling for the QB switch Gibbs stuck with him then finally made the switch about 1/2 way through the season.

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[QUOTE=mheisig;361603]How can this be?! The Cowboys are ranked #3 in all the power rankings...I just don't understand it. Can power rankings be wrong?![/QUOTE]

For some reason the media loves the Cowboys. They lose to a HORRIBLE team in the Bills and they are still loved and say what a comeback, when in fact, it was a collapse by the Bills. When the Cowpatties lose to the Patriots, they will say "well it's the patriots, they were supposed to lose", but if they win (huge if), then they will say it's the best team we've seen in a decade.

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[quote=jsarno;361858]Actually something does diminish that fact...the Bills are 31st in total defense. Only 1 team is worse than the Bills, and they handled you well. That doesn't bode well for you. [/quote]

No it doesn't diminish the fact he drove the team down the field for the game winning FG. Yes, he stats are horrendous and he played badly, but that does not diminish it, who won the game? How was the FG possible?

[QUOTE]Also, EVERY Qb has that kind of "moxy" or they wouldn't be a QB. Not hard to drive off the 2nd worst defense in the entire league.[/QUOTE]

That is not true, Leaf was a QB, Joey Harrington is a QB, do they have "Moxy"? Far from it.

[QUOTE]Fact is, everyone is sucking Romo's nutts, when he has done nothing to deserve it. [B]Campbell is a better QB[/B] and he doesn't get any publicity other than in the DC area...even then Romo gets more national attention than Campbell gets in his own town. [/QUOTE]

You are right, there is a lot of hype and media praise surrounding Romo now, but when you say Campbell is a better QB is just beyond me. Neither has won a super bowl or any major victory. That is more of an opinion that a fact.

[QUOTE]
Campbell threw for almost 250 yards and 2 tds (no turnovers) with a bag of nutts and misfits thrown together at the last minute, you have one of the best receivers in the league and still he created 6 turnovers. Yet he is still exhaulted...wonder why that is? The media is elevating Romo to Manning / Brady type status, and there is no way he deserves it.
No one is saying he sucks...he doesn't. He's good...but not great.
[/QUOTE]
Randel El, Lloyd, Portis, Betts are "a bag of nutts and misfits"? Just like the Dallas game against the Bills, it was the D that came up big for Washington and not allowing the so called "high octane offense" score. The two games before the Lions game, Campbell did not do any thing impressive, he did what a normal QB is supposed to do. I am not saying he was bad, but nothing that would make you go "WOW". That is what the media wants and that is why they like Romo. I am sure you saw the ball over the head scrabmle and that is what the media wants to see.

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Kind of side note question to Cowboys fans. I was thinking about this on Monday night and even if Romo was on any other team, I'd hate him.

That smirk just pisses me off like f-ing crazy.

And how about TO? Does anyone like him? I remember when Deion Sanders came here and I gave him no allegiance because he was a douchebag. I wanted him to do well, but I never cheered for him. Is that how you feel about TO?

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[quote=Southpaw;361826]You misunderstand my intention. I'm not one of the people that tries to act like "Romo sucks" simply because he's a Cowboy, but I was fairly certain that he would come back down to Earth at some point this season, and it appears that it happened last night. Of course I don't expect him to have another five pick game, but he's also not the second coming of Brett Favre like the media seems to think.

[B]And as far as scoring twice in 20 seconds; it was actually once in 2+ minutes, and then a 19 yard drive after an onside kick.[/B] Do that against New England and I'll be impressed.[/quote]

Timeline:

0:24 seconds - Romo passes to Crayton at the goal line and Crayton slips in for the touchdown. Cowboys call timeout.

0:20 seconds - Romo underthrows Terrell Owens and Jabari Greer rips the ball from Owens hands. (2pt conversion fail)

0:18 seconds - Rookie kicker Nick Folk executes an onside kick 11 yards up the field where Sam Hurd deflects the ball to team mate Tony Curtis for a Cowboys recovery.

0:07 seconds - Romo passes to Barber on a 4 yard sideline pass.

0:02 seconds - On 3rd down Romo connects with Patrick Crayton who runs out of bounds after an 8 yard gain to the Buffalo 35 yard line.

0:01 seconds - Rookie Kicker Nick Folk nails the game winning 53 yarder.

So there you go, check it out on ESPN.COM or NFL.COM

BUt it was 2 scores in 24 seconds.

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I heard this from a Cowboys fan in the bar the other night and couldn't agree with him more.

He was telling me that the second Romo gets his contract, he's going to start pussing out. Look how he scrambles now, and sacrifices his body. The second he gets the big bucks, he'll shy away from contact, and that will have a significant impact on his game.

Honestly though, who are we really afraid of on Dallas' offense?

Jason Witten, and [I]maybe [/I]Marion Barber.

They're over-rated... and I cannot wait until game day with them.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;362181]Timeline:

0:24 seconds - Romo passes to Crayton at the goal line and Crayton slips in for the touchdown. Cowboys call timeout.

0:20 seconds - Romo underthrows Terrell Owens and Jabari Greer rips the ball from Owens hands. (2pt conversion fail)

0:18 seconds - Rookie kicker Nick Folk executes an onside kick 11 yards up the field where Sam Hurd deflects the ball to team mate Tony Curtis for a Cowboys recovery.

0:07 seconds - Romo passes to Barber on a 4 yard sideline pass.

0:02 seconds - On 3rd down Romo connects with Patrick Crayton who runs out of bounds after an 8 yard gain to the Buffalo 35 yard line.

0:01 seconds - Rookie Kicker Nick Folk nails the game winning 53 yarder.

So there you go, check it out on ESPN.COM or NFL.COM

BUt it was 2 scores in 24 seconds.[/quote]
The Cowboys called a timeout after a TD? I thought the clocked stopped after every score?

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[quote=sandtrapjack;362181]Timeline:

0:24 seconds - Romo passes to Crayton at the goal line and Crayton slips in for the touchdown. Cowboys call timeout.

0:20 seconds - Romo underthrows Terrell Owens and Jabari Greer rips the ball from Owens hands. (2pt conversion fail)

0:18 seconds - Rookie kicker Nick Folk executes an onside kick 11 yards up the field where Sam Hurd deflects the ball to team mate Tony Curtis for a Cowboys recovery.

0:07 seconds - Romo passes to Barber on a 4 yard sideline pass.

0:02 seconds - On 3rd down Romo connects with Patrick Crayton who runs out of bounds after an 8 yard gain to the Buffalo 35 yard line.

0:01 seconds - Rookie Kicker Nick Folk nails the game winning 53 yarder.

So there you go, check it out on ESPN.COM or NFL.COM

BUt it was 2 scores in 24 seconds.[/quote]

Twenty-four seconds between scores is a little different than actually scoring two times in 24 seconds. The touchdown to Crayton was at the end of a two plus minute drive. It's not like the Cowboys got the ball after the Bills punt, and gained 80 yards and nine points in 24 seconds.

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[quote=Southpaw;362203]Twenty-four seconds between scores is a little different than actually scoring two times in 24 seconds. The touchdown to Crayton was at the end of a two plus minute drive. It's not like the Cowboys got the ball after the Bills punt, and gained 80 yards and nine points in 24 seconds.[/quote]

In a way you are right, but the keyword here is "scoring". They scored the touchdown with 24 secs to go and scored again. Analysts and sports talk shows manipulate numbers to serve them in making a point or support their argument. I personally hate stats.

In the 4th quarter, the Lions have the record for scoring the most points. WHO CARES!!

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[quote=firstdown;362198]The Cowboys called a timeout after a TD? I thought the clocked stopped after every score?[/quote]

Yeah it does, but I guess they wanted to make sure they get the play right because they thought the 2 point conversion was it. I don't think they were thinking about onside kick at that moment.

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Until someone defines "moxy", no player can possess it.

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[quote=GTripp0012;362214]Until someone defines "moxy", no player can possess it.[/quote]

I just saw an article on Football Outsiders about the all new M.O.X.Y. ranking system. They've actually found a way to measure intagible statistics like guts, heart, leadership, cahoneys, etc. Unfortunately, Mark Brunell was at the bottom of the list... :laughing2







[SIZE=1]Just kidding, Tripp...[/SIZE]

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[QUOTE=TheBigD;362174]No it doesn't diminish the fact he drove the team down the field for the game winning FG. Yes, he stats are horrendous and he played badly, but that does not diminish it, who won the game? How was the FG possible?[/quote]

The Cowboys won the game despite Romo trying to throw it away. So he finally put it together for 1 full drive and about 30 yards in another drive. That's not impressive to me when you're playing the worst defense in the league. You should have blew them away. You didn't. Fact is, i Kolb didn't hit that clutch winner, OR do a perfect onside kick, you'd be pissed at Romo. Romo didn't win the game, Kolb did.

[quote]That is not true, Leaf was a QB, Joey Harrington is a QB, do they have "Moxy"? Far from it. [/quote]

You act as if he's the first guy to do it. Maybe I should have been clearer, active QB's have it. You don't have to look beyond our team to see someone who did it...twice in a season and twice in one game actually. That's right, Mr. Brunell vs the Cowboys in 05 with two bombs to Moss. I don't recall him being anything special, but I guess he possesses this moxie you speak off.

[quote]You are right, there is a lot of hype and media praise surrounding Romo now, but when you say Campbell is a better QB is just beyond me. Neither has won a super bowl or any major victory. That is more of an opinion that a fact.[/quote]

You make a valid point. It is more opinion. It won't be after we win the super bowl this year, but right now, it is opinion. :D

[quote]Randel El, Lloyd, Portis, Betts are "a bag of nutts and misfits"?[/quote]

Randle El was gone before half time with an injury. Lloyd (1 catch all season, and was in that game), Caldwell (signed after week 2), McCardell (signed 6 days before the game) and Thrash (normally a special teamer) were all asked to be our WR's. If you don't think throwing them together at the last minute is a bag of nutts and misfits, then what qualifies? You go sign two waiver players and let them be your #1 and #2, or #2 and #3 and see what you are saying.

[quote]Just like the Dallas game against the Bills, it was the D that came up big for Washington and not allowing the so called "high octane offense" score. The two games before the Lions game, Campbell did not do any thing impressive, he did what a normal QB is supposed to do. I am not saying he was bad, but nothing that would make you go "WOW". That is what the media wants and that is why they like Romo. I am sure you saw the ball over the head scrabmle and that is what the media wants to see.[/QUOTE]

I disagree with you. Campbell throws a VERY good deep ball, and it does make people say WOW. He's been doing it all season.
Campbell goes about his business and is quiet and respectful. Romo likes the spotlight. Gibbs knows how to control his players and keep them grounded. Only Riggins is a guy I can remember that was "high profile" for the Skins, because Gibbs likes quiet leaders. Romo seems like a good guy, but he's got a long way to fall if he fails now. These kids don't need that added pressure. You will NEVER catch Campbell doing what Romo did with those 6 turnovers.
Trust me when I say Campbell is a better scrambler than Romo. He is extremely underrated in that catagory because he has a pass first attitude. He has all the elements of a great QB...with more experience, some day he will be great. Campbell does a lot of things that "wow" you, you just have to watch every week.

I'm not saying Romo sucks or anything of the sort, I just feel he is overrated. People literally are (or were) putting him up there in the top 3 or 4 qbs. No way is he that good. His performance vs a terrible D proves it.

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oh no, not the Super Bowl predictions. Calm down dude, i don't want that type of thinking until mid - december.

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[quote=jsarno;362238]The Cowboys won the game despite Romo trying to throw it away. So he finally put it together for 1 full drive and about 30 yards in another drive. That's not impressive to me when you're playing the worst defense in the league. You should have blew them away. You didn't. Fact is, i Kolb didn't hit that clutch winner, OR do a perfect onside kick, you'd be pissed at Romo. Romo didn't win the game, Kolb did. [/quote]

I am sorry, gotta help me with this one, who is Kolb?

[quote] You act as if he's the first guy to do it. Maybe I should have been clearer, active QB's have it. You don't have to look beyond our team to see someone who did it...twice in a season and twice in one game actually. That's right, Mr. Brunell vs the Cowboys in 05 with two bombs to Moss. I don't recall him being anything special, but I guess he possesses this moxie you speak off.
[/quote] I was trying to tell you about "Moxy" after you said " Also, EVERY Qb has that kind of "moxy" or they wouldn't be a QB"


[quote] You make a valid point. It is more opinion. It won't be after we win the super bowl this year, but right now, it is opinion. :D[/quote]Wow dude, I hope you didn't just jinx your team. I am a superstitious person so I wouldn't say something like that.
[quote] I disagree with you. [B]Campbell throws a VERY good deep ball,[/B] and it does make people say WOW. He's been doing it all season.
Campbell goes about his business and is quiet and respectful. Romo likes the spotlight. Gibbs knows how to control his players and keep them grounded. Only Riggins is a guy I can remember that was "high profile" for the Skins, because Gibbs likes quiet leaders. Romo seems like a good guy, but he's got a long way to fall if he fails now. These kids don't need that added pressure. You will [B]NEVER[/B] catch Campbell doing what Romo did with those 6 turnovers. [/quote]He does have the arm for the deep ball but he is inaccurate with his deep passes. Tell me how man of those he has after 4 games. Only a handful, and none for touchdowns. Still, I have not seen anything that WOWs me from JC.

I think it is too early to say that Campbell will NEVER have such a bad game. True, maybe he won't have 5 INTs, but Romo is not the first nor the last, and I hope we both will be around long enough for me to remind you when Campbell has a really bad game.

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I have no idea what you are talking about BigD, Campbell throws an excellent deep ball. That is what he truly excels at and I'm not being very biased here. He throws the deep ball better than most.

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[QUOTE=TheBigD;362270]I am sorry, gotta help me with this one, who is Kolb?[/quote]

Woops, my bad, it's Folk. Still got baseball on the brain or something. LOL.

[quote]I was trying to tell you about "Moxy" after you said " Also, EVERY Qb has that kind of "moxy" or they wouldn't be a QB"[/quote]

In understand. Fact is, this was not the first time someone did this, and it won't be the last. It happens a lot. Granted the collapse of the Bills (including onside kick) doesn't happen a lot. But 1 and a half drives at the end of the game do happen, it's not moxie, it's doing your job. If they didn't, they would be the next ryan leaf, and be sitting on his sofa watching the game. I don't want to take anything away from his last two drives. But two drives don't make a QB.

[quote]Wow dude, I hope you didn't just jinx your team. I am a superstitious person so I wouldn't say something like that.[/quote]

LOL...yeah, I am a bit superstitous too...I knocked on wood when I said it. haha.

[quote]He does have the arm for the deep ball but he is inaccurate with his deep passes. Tell me how man of those he has after 4 games. Only a handful, and none for touchdowns. Still, I have not seen anything that WOWs me from JC. [/quote]

You need to watch more of the games...I am sure anyone here will tell you he has one of the best deep arms in the game...in fact ESPN even said he did on a broadcast. This is well known, and getting more well known with more exposure.

[quote]I think it is too early to say that Campbell will NEVER have such a bad game. True, maybe he won't have 5 INTs, but Romo is not the first nor the last, and I hope we both will be around long enough for me to remind you when Campbell has a really bad game.[/QUOTE]

True, but Campbell doesn't make those kinds of dumb mistakes...and IF he did, I bet you anything that Gibbs would either take him out, or at least take him out of the equation by going conservative and running the ball, or doing dink and dunk passes.

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[quote=jsarno;362294]Woops, my bad, it's Folk. Still got baseball on the brain or something. LOL.



In understand. Fact is, this was not the first time someone did this, and it won't be the last. It happens a lot. Granted the collapse of the Bills (including onside kick) doesn't happen a lot. But 1 and a half drives at the end of the game do happen, it's not moxie, it's doing your job. If they didn't, they would be the next ryan leaf, and be sitting on his sofa watching the game. I don't want to take anything away from his last two drives. But two drives don't make a QB.



LOL...yeah, I am a bit superstitous too...I knocked on wood when I said it. haha.



You need to watch more of the games...I am sure anyone here will tell you he has one of the best deep arms in the game...in fact ESPN even said he did on a broadcast. This is well known, and getting more well known with more exposure.



True, but Campbell doesn't make those kinds of dumb mistakes...and IF he did, I bet you anything that Gibbs would either take him out, or at least take him out of the equation by going conservative and running the ball, or doing dink and dunk passes.[/quote]

On Kolb, for a minute there I was wondering how and why the rookie QB for the Eagles came into the picture.

I am thoroughly enjoying your debate though.

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[quote=Cowell;362272]I have no idea what you are talking about BigD, Campbell throws an excellent deep ball. That is what he truly excels at and I'm not being very biased here. He throws the deep ball better than most.[/quote]

Yes, very true. I remember seeing a stat somewhere that he leads the league in YPP. Or else I'm crazy.

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[quote=jsarno;362238]I'm not saying Romo sucks or anything of the sort, I just feel he is overrated. People literally are (or were) putting him up there in the top 3 or 4 qbs. No way is he that good. His performance vs a terrible D proves it.[/quote]Romo's been a top 5 QB so far this year. However, there's little reason to expect it to continue.

If 5 weeks was enough to decide who the pro bowl QBs should be, we'd have to put David Garrard on the AFC roster ahead of palmer. I'm not surprised that the media is overreacting, but there's a lot of football to be played. This is called "early varience."

Wait until Romo's incompletions start getting picked (like in the Buffalo game). Completion %'s are through the roof leaguewide this year, and Romo has been very much below the league average. The INTS are going to come for him in bunches just like this last week.

The touchdowns will also likely come in bunches, but if theres one thing I know it's that 1 TD does not equal 1 INT. I would guess it's closer to 2 TDs to one 1 INT.

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[quote=jsarno;362294]
You need to watch more of the games...I am sure anyone here will tell you he has one of the best deep arms in the game...in fact[B] ESPN even said he did[/B] on a broadcast. This is well known, and getting more well known with more exposure. [/quote]
I do, since I live in the DC area, I have no choice. Sometime it is the only game on TV. I did not say he doesn't have the arm to throw it, I have seen him over throw many time. I am just saying he is inaccurate. So what! ESPN said JC has a good arm, well move over John, Joe, and Brett. How come when ESPN says Romo is good, everyone in here says they are not right, but when they say JC has a good arm, they are pretty accurate and credible?

[quote]
True, but Campbell doesn't make those kinds of dumb mistakes...and IF he did, I bet you anything that Gibbs would either take him out, or at least take him out of the equation by going conservative and running the ball, or doing dink and dunk passes.
[/quote]Weren't you the one who said that Gibbs supports his players and would stick with them. If Gibbs does take him out or run the ball, how is that going to help his psyche? How is that going to toughen up your QB and make him believe everything is possible and to never give up. Wade stuck with Romo and they ended up winning, who knows what would have happened if Brad Johnson was in the game.

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[quote=Cowell;362272]I have no idea what you are talking about BigD, Campbell throws an excellent deep ball. That is what he truly excels at and I'm not being very biased here. He throws the deep ball better than most.[/quote]
I have seen him over throw Moss and other reciever many times. When was his last "deep ball" touchdown? Wasn't it with Caroline? And even that one, it was all Moss. I have not seen much from him this year, I think the number of deep passes probably equal the number of over thrown passes.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;362385]Yes, very true. I remember seeing a stat somewhere that he leads the league in YPP. Or else I'm crazy.[/quote]YPP does not mean "deep ball" threat. If you throw a screen pass and your RB takes it for 15 or 20 yards, it is all the RB, not the QB. Those stats are not as accurate as you might think. A west coast offense will have a better completion %, but a bad YPP.

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Most of JC's big completions have come on bombs. There's been a few nice YAC gains such as Randle El's 4th down scamper last week but for the most part it's been BOMBS AWAY!

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[quote=Mattyk72;362493][B]Most[/B] of JC's [B]big completions[/B] have come on [B]bombs[/B]. There's been a few nice YAC gains such as Randle El's 4th down scamper last week but for the most part it's been BOMBS AWAY![/quote]

I am not sure what you are trying to say here. Define big completions. I mean your statement is right but it adds no value. It is like saying, JC's tuchdown passes usually are complete passes in end zone, well duhh!

Also, we both can sit here and claim things, but how did you come up with that fact?

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Man you guy's still hashing this out. How about this. Romo has some very good qualities as a QB and JC has some very good qualities as a QB. On 11/18 then on 12/30 we will see which one can get the V!

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[quote=TheBigD;362587]I am not sure what you are trying to say here. Define big completions. I mean your statement is right but it adds no value. It is like saying, JC's tuchdown passes usually are complete passes in end zone, well duhh!

Also, we both can sit here and claim things, but how did you come up with that fact?[/quote]

Jeez this shouldn't be that hard. By big completion I mean a big play, of say 20 yards or more of which he has 11 this year, and he also has 4 completions of 40+.

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[quote=Mattyk72;362493]Most of JC's big completions have come on bombs. There's been a few nice YAC gains such as Randle El's 4th down scamper last week but for the most part it's been BOMBS AWAY![/quote]

And how.

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[quote=TheBigD;362485]YPP does not mean "deep ball" threat. If you throw a screen pass and your RB takes it for 15 or 20 yards, it is all the RB, not the QB. Those stats are not as accurate as you might think. A west coast offense will have a better completion %, but a bad YPP.[/quote]

I mean I don't know if you have watched the games or what, but he most definitely has had a HELL of a touch on his deep balls. I would say he probably completes 60-70% of his passes twenty yards plus downfield.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;362615]I mean I don't know if you have watched the games or what, but he most definitely has had a HELL of a touch on his deep balls. I would say he probably completes 60-70% of his passes twenty yards plus downfield.[/quote]
I'm sure that stat is out there if someone knows where to look.

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[quote=Mattyk72;362610]Jeez this shouldn't be that hard. By big completion I mean a big play, of say 20 yards or more of which he has 11 this year, and he also has 4 completions of 40+.[/quote]

Ok, one of them was that ball ARE caught off the deflection in the last seconds, so that is just 3. So, for the first 4 games, he has 3 completions of 40+, how does that make him a deep passers? I keep saying, he does have the arm, no doubt, but he is inaccurate.

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[quote=TheBigD;362658]Ok, one of them was that ball ARE caught off the deflection in the last seconds, so that is just 3. So, for the first 4 games, he has 3 completions of 40+, how does that make him a deep passers? I keep saying, he does have the arm, no doubt, but he is inaccurate.[/quote]

Why does one not count??

Why don't you just stick to watching Dallas.

You're totally missing my point. You tried making some point about yards per attempt not meaning much because of yards gained after the catch, I simply countered by saying in Campbell's case he has hit his fair share of deep balls and his YPA is legit, not full of runs after the catch. He has 15 completions of 20 yards or more so far.

This offense is one that is based on taking deep shots and it's nothing like a west coast system that depends on short throws turned into long gains by the receivers.