Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;382917]Nothing was suggested??

You only "suggested" that we have limited opinions here and that "a small handful of contributors (including the mods) that totally dominate the style and direction of every thread, every time, period."

Sorry but that's just wrong, ignorant and frankly insulting.[/QUOTE]

Once again the insults come hurling in. I've been given warnings about insults (which weren't even insults) when my opinion differed from the mods but somehow it's totally fine for all mods to hurl insults. And that goes right back to my original point: the pool of contributors here is very limited because of that kind of thing exactly AND as logic would follow the content also becomes very limited. Again, I did not say it made the site bad or useless, I simply said that it is what it is.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[quote=MTRedskinsFan;382927]Once again the insults come hurling in. I've been given warnings about insults (which weren't even insults) when my opinion differed from the mods but somehow it's totally fine for all mods to hurl insults. And that goes right back to my original point: the pool of contributors here is very limited because of that kind of thing exactly AND as logic would follow the content also becomes very limited. Again, I did not say it made the site bad or useless, I simply said that it is what it is.[/quote]

How have I hurled insults??

If the word "ignorant" is insulting to you then you are really touchy.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[quote=MTRedskinsFan;382927]Once again the insults come hurling in. I've been given warnings about insults (which weren't even insults) when my opinion differed from the mods but somehow it's totally fine for all mods to hurl insults. And that goes right back to my original point: the pool of contributors here is very limited because of that kind of thing exactly AND as logic would follow the content also becomes very limited. Again, I did not say it made the site bad or useless, I simply said that it is what it is.[/quote]

By the way you were given an warning for inappropriate language, not from insulting someone.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[QUOTE=paulskinsfan;382883]No Matt, Im not. You can wipe your chin from the Kool Aid, and YAWN all ya want, but the fact of the matter is that you and all the Kool Aid Drinkers have been 100% wrong. You supported an old man with old coaching methods refusing to criticize him at any point in time. Now its over and this team is left in the shitter, so you'll just blow off any criticizms, and jump back on the Snyder approval bandwagon, agreeing with each and every move he makes. God forbid someone challenges your ideas and then proves them wrong.[/QUOTE]

I just flew home and boy are my arms tired.

Seriously though, I locked the thread because it was turning into a bunch of name calling all around. The thread was headed nowhere and I decided to put a stop to it before it got out of control. We know what your intent essentially was ("to patronize" as DynamiteRave pointed out). And we all know that had we won the game and there was a thread offering "Amnesty" to people like you, then you'd be pissing all over the thread.

Now for the last time, I don't think everything is perfect with the team or with Gibbs. There is a lot the team and Gibbs has to improve on. No one is blind to that. But if you're done with the team, then quite frankly you should be done with the site.

And I'm changing my sig.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[quote=paulskinsfan;382878]I know its hard to admit that Gibbs 2.0 was a failure for those of you who adamently stood by the man through thick and thin. The point of the thread was "its over." Let's get on the same page for once, stop drinking the kool aid and lets work for change.[/quote]PSF...what tune are you going to be signing when we back our way into the playoffs at 8-8, and get to travel to Seattle in January?

Will you still be so down on Gibbs? I mean, there will be reason to be so, 8-8 isn't great, but will you celebrate the playoff birth.

See, I don't think you will. I don't think you will be willing to admit you were wrong about the season being over, since you aren't usually willing to admit your incorrectness about anything else.

You've pretty much painted yourself as a total hypocrite thus far. Everybody else should prematurely admit to being wrong so that you don't have to in the future when you are. So when a hypocrite opens a thread that serves a limited view of a single event and demands "amnesty" from far more thoughtful posters...you are going to get whats coming.

I mean, I'm pretty sure you can see that as is, but people who try to hide their wrongdoings behind "freedom of speech" tend to push my buttons in a way that few other events can. Consider yourself added to my sh-tlist.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[quote=GTripp0012;382934]PSF...what tune are you going to be signing when we back our way into the playoffs at 8-8, and get to travel to Seattle in January?

Will you still be so down on Gibbs? I mean, there will be reason to be so, 8-8 isn't great, but will you celebrate the playoff birth.

See, I don't think you will. I don't think you will be willing to admit you were wrong about the season being over, since you aren't usually willing to admit your incorrectness about anything else.

You've pretty much painted yourself as a total hypocrite thus far. Everybody else should prematurely admit to being wrong so that you don't have to in the future when you are. So when a hypocrite opens a thread that serves a limited view of a single event and demands "amnesty" from far more thoughtful posters...you are going to get whats coming.

I mean, I'm pretty sure you can see that as is, but people who try to hide their wrongdoings behind "freedom of speech" tend to push my buttons in a way that few other events can. Consider yourself added to my sh-tlist.[/quote]

damn someone just got pwned

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;382933]I just flew home and boy are my arms tired.

Seriously though, I locked the thread because it was turning into a bunch of name calling all around. The thread was headed nowhere and I decided to put a stop to it before it got out of control. We know what your intent essentially was ("to patronize" as DynamiteRave pointed out). And we all know that had we won the game and there was a thread offering "Amnesty" to people like you, then you'd be pissing all over the thread.

Now for the last time, I don't think everything is perfect with the team or with Gibbs. There is a lot the team and Gibbs has to improve on. No one is blind to that. But if you're done with the team, then quite frankly you should be done with the site.

And I'm changing my sig.[/quote]

Haha thanks for the Sig smooty. I just try to stay as neutral as possible. I agree with everyone depending on the day and how I feel. I agree with the kool-aid kids sometimes and I agree with the "Haters". But no matter who I agree with, I never ever hop off the bandwagon. Sure there are things I don't like but. *Shrugs* Nothing I can do about it. No point in pissing on people for not agreeing to what you agree to. That's what seems to be happening on this board lately.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;382937]Haha thanks for the Sig smooty. I just try to stay as neutral as possible. I agree with everyone depending on the day and how I feel. I agree with the kool-aid kids sometimes and I agree with the "Haters". But no matter who I agree with, I never ever hop off the bandwagon. Sure there are things I don't like but. *Shrugs* Nothing I can do about it. No point in pissing on people for not agreeing to what you agree to. That's what seems to be happening on this board lately.[/QUOTE]

The site needs more people like you. I said it last year and I'll say it again this year.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

@paulskinsfan: you think Gibbs is the cause of all our problems. Many other people don't. Why go on and on about it, trying to get other people to think like you? If I tell somebody the sky is blue, and they say, "no, it's green," I couldn't care less. I know it's blue, and if they can't see it -- big fucking deal. Know what I mean? You seem so certain about Gibbs, yet you get frustrated with his supporters. Who cares if people support him? He's done good things, he's done bad things. Get over it.

@MTRedskinsFan:
From wikipedia: "Ignorance is a lack of knowledge. Ignorance is sometimes [b]misinterpreted[/b] as a synonym of stupidity, and is as thus often taken as an insult." (emphasis added)

Calling you ignorant is not an insult. It simply means that you don't have knowledge of the situation. That's pretty accurate if you ask me. I'm not sure how long you've been reading, but you have only been posting for about 2 months. That doesn't make you very qualified to have an opinion about how things work on this board.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

Wow, I was going to stay out of this one but I must throw in a bit. I have been here for a couple of years and not ONE TIME have I EVER seen this freedom of speech shit pop up. The people that continually complain for change...find another board to post that crap on. The people (Mods and Admin) here have given a vehicle to the TRUE FANS of not only the Washington Redskins, but NFL FANS as well, to express their views in an appropriate manner. Should your views rub a mod the wrong way...tough shit, find somewhere else to go if you don't like it.

I personally am tired of seeing this kind of crap on a football message board. I have chosen not to read threads that do not have anything to do with football or a topic that I am not interested in. Unfortunately I opened this crap and I could not refrain from posting.

Good Job Warpath Staff! You have done absolutely NOTHING wrong and the few bad apples that continue to bring this up time and time again....BAN THEIR ASSES and let's talk about some football for Christ sake!

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[quote=jbcjr14;383028]Wow, I was going to stay out of this one but I must throw in a bit. I have been here for a couple of years and not ONE TIME have I EVER seen this freedom of speech shit pop up. The people that continually complain for change...find another board to post that crap on. The people (Mods and Admin) here have given a vehicle to the TRUE FANS of not only the Washington Redskins, but NFL FANS as well, to express their views in an appropriate manner. Should your views rub a mod the wrong way...tough shit, find somewhere else to go if you don't like it.

I personally am tired of seeing this kind of crap on a football message board. I have chosen not to read threads that do not have anything to do with football or a topic that I am not interested in. Unfortunately I opened this crap and I could not refrain from posting.

Good Job Warpath Staff! You have done absolutely NOTHING wrong and the few bad apples that continue to bring this up time and time again....[B]BAN THEIR ASSES and let's talk about some football for Christ sake[/B]![/quote]

We are cleaning house as we speak. I think it's way overdue and it's probably my fault for having too much patience. It's time to get rid of some morons and get back to having some intelligent, meaningful discussion.

Less criticizing and more analyzing is our new theme going forward. :)

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[quote=Mattyk72;383048]We are cleaning house as we speak. I think it's way overdue and it's probably my fault for having too much patience. It's time to get rid of some morons and get back to having some intelligent, meaningful discussion.

Less criticizing and more analyzing is our new theme going forward. :)[/quote]

I heart you.

To address all the bickering back and forth lately, the big problem is the polarization of the two groups, "Haterade Drinkers" vs "Kool Aid Drinkers."

Members, don't lump people into one group or another, that just starts stupid arguments. Better yet, don't label yourself as one vs the other. Just analyze the team each week. If you're truly considering all the angles, then sometimes your opinion will be positive and sometimes it will be negative.

And if you disagree with someone, that's great. It contributes to valuable discussion. But disagree with the single post, don't get into lumping people into a group based on a series of posts they've made. Just debate the team and stay away from this ridiculous division.

That's what got everyone all fired up at PSF.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[quote=Schneed10;383074]I heart you.

To address all the bickering back and forth lately, the big problem is the polarization of the two groups, "Haterade Drinkers" vs "Kool Aid Drinkers."

Members, don't lump people into one group or another, that just starts stupid arguments. Better yet, don't label yourself as one vs the other. Just analyze the team each week. If you're truly considering all the angles, then sometimes your opinion will be positive and sometimes it will be negative.

And if you disagree with someone, that's great. It contributes to valuable discussion. But disagree with the single post, don't get into lumping people into a group based on a series of posts they've made. Just debate the team and stay away from this ridiculous division.

That's what got everyone all fired up at PSF.[/quote]

You summed up the main issue pretty well.

This stupid divide ends today. I know it might not be a popular decision with everyone, but we've made this decision for the better good of the site. The morons that instigate and keep pushing us apart are gone and in the future the mods are going to be much more proactive when it comes to weeding out those that don't add any value to the site.

This shouldn't be misinterpreted as us clamping down on freedom of speech. This is all about getting back to intelligent and meaningful discussions.

Like I said, less criticizing and more analyzing is our theme now. Those that want to bitch and complain 24/7 can find another board.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

I just thought I'd point out that "freedom of speech" is a right protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America. The purpose is to protect your freedom of speech and exercise of religion from the governmental powers.

A private entity (The Warpath, Matty, McDonalds or the guy down the street) cannot infringe on your legal right to freedom of speech, only the government can.

In other words, the mods can run this place like an absolute dictatorship and boot people because they don't like their font choices, and be completely justified.

The thread title is inane. Who cares if there's freedom of speech here? There doesn't need to be and nobody is infringing on your "online rights" because they don't exist in the first place. If you don't like how it's run, go somewhere else.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[quote=paulskinsfan;382883]No Matt, Im not. You can wipe your chin from the Kool Aid, and YAWN all ya want, but the fact of the matter is that you and all the Kool Aid Drinkers have been 100% wrong. You supported an old man with old coaching methods refusing to criticize him at any point in time. Now its over and this team is left in the shitter, so you'll just blow off any criticizms, and jump back on the Snyder approval bandwagon, agreeing with each and every move he makes. God forbid someone challenges your ideas and then proves them wrong.[/quote]

You're a f------ retard just do everyone a favor and get the f---- off this site. You do nothing but piss and whine and assume you're the smartest f---- alive.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[QUOTE=LMsexyAO;383236]You're a fucking retard just do everyone a favor and get the fuck off this site. You do nothing but piss and whine and assume you're the smartest fucker alive.[/QUOTE]

Personally I think you're absolutely on point with your post. However, as a moderator I have to warn you to watch the language and insults.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[quote=Mattyk72;383048]We are cleaning house as we speak. I think it's way overdue and it's probably my fault for having too much patience. It's time to get rid of some morons and get back to having some intelligent, meaningful discussion.

Less criticizing and more analyzing is our new theme going forward. :)[/quote]

I will miss you all as apparently, this is my last post...............

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[QUOTE=Hog1;383300]I will miss you all as apparently, this is my last post...............[/QUOTE]

Why would this be your last post?

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

I think he was playing on Matty's word about cleaning up the "riff-raff"...

It's pretty sad that one has to stoop to the level of crying about free speech on a private entity such as this message board. As far as I see, all thoughts, opinions and debauchery are welcome, however stupidity will get you flamed.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;383311]Why would this be your last post?[/quote]
It was a............joke.
AND it was DAMN funny, had you been paying attention..............maybe you were viewing it through your "mod" secret x-ray glasses, and were unable to see the non-freedom of speech infringing part????
BTW, We took a swing through Ortiz park yesterday where all the skins fans were, and did not see any WP anywhere, so we hung out for a while (before embracing the TB fans), and went inside.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[QUOTE=Hog1;383336]It was a............joke.
AND it was DAMN funny, had you been paying attention..............maybe you were viewing it through your "mod" secret x-ray glasses, and were unable to see the non-freedom of speech infringing part????
BTW, We took a swing through Ortiz park yesterday where all the skins fans were, and did not see any WP anywhere, so we hung out for a while (before embracing the TB fans), and went inside.[/QUOTE]

Yeah sorry I guess I just totally missed the joke. Glad you're not going anywhere

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What I don't get is why so many people hang around here if it is so bad and the mods are so repressive. I wanted to stay out of this but franlly I think it is time the that all the f***tards who bitch and complain about this place just leave. Start your own board where you can whine and bitch about the team relentlessly. The rest of us will stay here and discuss our favorite team as if it actually were our favorite team and we actually did derive some enjoyment out of them.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;383341]Yeah sorry I guess I just totally missed the joke. Glad you're not going anywhere[/quote]

Thankyou SS. I will stay, because I like it here!

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

I'm not into criticizing, either...much. I just wonder what the Redskins record would be if we had kept Trent Green (even though he's not playing), kept Antonio Pierce, not brought in Brunell, kept Champ Bailey, even kept Keenan McCardell (15 years ago), not traded for TJ Duckett, and instead had drafted some first rate offensive linemen with the draft choices we gave up...

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[quote=JLee9718;383365]I'm not into criticizing, either...much. I just wonder what the Redskins record would be if we had kept Trent Green (even though he's not playing), kept Antonio Pierce, not brought in Brunell, kept Champ Bailey, even kept Keenan McCardell (15 years ago), not traded for TJ Duckett, and instead had drafted some first rate offensive linemen with the draft choices we gave up...[/quote]

That's a lot of shoulda, coulda, woulda.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

Here is a thought to try to make this place a little friendlier. How about dropping the AD that pops up first every time you open a thread that says “Get Your Hate On”. Could this be sending a subliminal message to everyone?

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[QUOTE=mredskins;383452]Here is a thought to try to make this place a little friendlier. How about dropping the AD that pops up first every time you open a thread that says “Get Your Hate On”. Could this be sending a subliminal message to everyone?[/QUOTE]

What is that? I've never seen that

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

Really???? It is some AD for hating Dallas stuff. Comes and goes.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

Sounds like you have some adware, mredskins.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

It is not a pop up it is embedded at the top of the threads. It says Dallas Sucks all over it and advertises joesragshack.com as their web site. Sometimes the box says Warpath Shop.

I can't post attachments to show you. =(

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[QUOTE=mredskins;383480]It is not a pop up it is embedded at the top of the threads. It says Dallas Sucks all over it and advertises joesragshack.com as their web site. Sometimes the box says Warpath Shop.

I can't post attachments to show you. =([/QUOTE]

Oh, I see. My Warpath does not have ads on it..

$25 will get rid of ads for you too, I believe. :)

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

Good job mods. I don't post as much as some and I guess I am more of a reader but I've even slowed down on that lately due to all of the bickering and negativity. I purposely stayed off the site after yesterday's game, knowing it would be filled with people ripping the team, coaches etc. Frankly, I'm tired of it. Hopefully, with the elimination of some of the culprits, you can get the site back to the way it was when I joined: All about Redskin Football and LOVE of our team and LOYALTY no matter what. You guys do a great job.

Re: So, is there freedom of speech here or what?
 

[QUOTE=saden1;382729]There is freedom of intelligent speech. If you act like an idiot, you'll be treaded like an idiot.[/QUOTE]

lol true dat