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scafuri27 12-17-2007 10:36 PM

Re: Rocky's out for the season, perhaps gone until 2009
 
It sucks when our hope for next year is already taking a hit..
With the Taylor tragedy our top picks from the 04 05 and 06 draft all mite be inactive next season?? or for Rogers and Rocky at least the begining..With the way weve dealt picks in the past its a tremendous loss being set back 3 yrs worth of top picks..

We will find a way...we are due for some good fortune..finish the season strong and develop some players while we are at it.

SFREDSKIN 12-17-2007 10:40 PM

Re: Rocky's out for the season, perhaps gone until 2009
 
[QUOTE=scafuri27;394353]It sucks when our hope for next year is already taking a hit..
With the Taylor tragedy our top picks from the 04 05 and 06 draft all mite be inactive next season?? or for Rogers and Rocky at least the begining..With the way weve dealt picks in the past its a tremendous loss being set back 3 yrs worth of top picks..

We will find a way...we are due for some good fortune..finish the season strong and develop some players while we are at it.[/QUOTE]

There is hope. Look at the free agent finds we have had, Alexander, Heyer, Wilson, Mason. I'm sure that we have a few gems in our practice squad, maybe Sinclair, Trucks if we can get him back, Westbrook? We'll see.

Dantheskinsfan 12-17-2007 10:43 PM

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[quote=GusFrerotte;394315]Rocky was a gamer when he finally had his chance. Damn, is Redskin Park a black hole for bad news and tragedy?[/quote]

yes. since the team moved to MD we've had jacked up luck

Big C 12-17-2007 10:45 PM

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godfrey will get the start id imagine

skinsfan69 12-17-2007 10:48 PM

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Sigh..... I have never ever seen anything like this. Ever.

Hog's Breath 12-17-2007 10:49 PM

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I think we're gonna be fine with Blades. The guy was a tackling machine in college. He's definitely starter material, IMO.

Big C 12-17-2007 11:08 PM

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[QUOTE=Hog's Breath;394359]I think we're gonna be fine with Blades. The guy was a tackling machine in college. He's definitely starter material, IMO.[/QUOTE]

but hes more of a middle linebacker than outside linebacker. i think he will eventually replace fletcher when he retires at inside, but outside for this game should be godfrey

celts32 12-17-2007 11:21 PM

Re: Rocky's out for the season, perhaps gone until 2009
 
I am not willing to accept that he's gone until 2009 yet...the range is 9 to 12 months. 9 months would be September...everyone heals differently...well see what happens. Carson Palmer torn up his knee in January and made it back for opening day the next year. Well see what happens.

GMScud 12-17-2007 11:25 PM

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[quote=celts32;394373]I am not willing to accept that he's gone until 2009 yet...the range is 9 to 12 months. 9 months would be September...everyone heals differently...well see what happens. Carson Palmer torn up his knee in January and made it back for opening day the next year. Well see what happens.[/quote]

LBs rely heavily on speed and switching direction. Palmer is a pocket passer who can be effective without mobility. The question is, even if Rocky can come back next season at some point, how effective can he really be?

airsoftking 12-18-2007 03:50 AM

Re: Rocky's out for the season, perhaps gone until 2009
 
That's real real real bad news. This guy was having a very good season. Hope this won't affect our D too much especially against Adrian Peterson next week.

mheisig 12-18-2007 08:16 AM

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It's astonishing that we're even thinking "playoffs" right now given the injuries this season.

We have every right to be the bottom-dwellers of the NFL, yet we're still in the hunt. Amazing.

Schneed10 12-18-2007 09:02 AM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;394238]Well JLC is reporting that Rocky tore his MCL and ACL, [B]may be out until 2009[/B], and that it typically takes 18-24 months to fully recover from such severe injuries. That's a big blow. Between the severe injuries to Thomas, Jansen, Campbell, Rocky, and Rogers, the loss of Sean Taylor, and the nagging injuries to Rabach, Wade, ARE, Moss, Thrash, Washington, Griffin and Smoot, it is nothing short of astounding that we are 7-7. [U]That's 12/22 starters who are either done for or who have been suffering throughout the year.[/U][/quote]

You know, I've been starting to think something similar. I've been very frustrated with Gibbs' clock management this year, and some other things here and there. But when you consider all the crap this team has gone through, 7-7 is a pretty admirable coaching job.

It's not a coaching job up to par with what he used to do back in the 80s, because that Gibbs never made these kind of clock management mistakes. But Gibbs II is clearly just as effective as ever when it comes to bringing men together to scratch and claw and fight for a common goal, especially when faced with adversity.

Overall, I'm very proud of this team.

onlydarksets 12-18-2007 09:10 AM

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That's it - bionic knees for everyone on the team.

MTK 12-18-2007 09:31 AM

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It's depressing to think that we might have to go the first half of next season without two key guys like Rocky and Carlos, and of course we'll never have Taylor back.

12thMan 12-18-2007 09:40 AM

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This is just wrecking my mood. I was looking forward to Rocky chasing Peterson down all game.

freddyg12 12-18-2007 10:07 AM

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Gotta feel for Rocky especially, this is both of his knees now. I'm sure he'll want to come back, but when both of your knees have been hurt like this, it's not a bad idea to give up football.

As mentioned earlier, Briggs in b&g is now a possibility, but I certainly hope the Danny isn't committed to signing him for the same $ he was in the offseason. A lot of things have changed since then; we signed Cooley to an extension & Landry to a big rookie deal, which was basically the $ that Briggs could've gotten since we were to trade our #1 pick to the bears.

I like Briggs, but I'm inclined to think that this is a time when the front office & coaches shouldn't panic & rush to spend all their cap dollars in one place. Let's look at some cheaper free agents & develop our young guys. I like Blades but he is definitely not an ideal weak side linebacker, nor is Godfrey.

I've got an idea, let's bring Lavar back!

celts32 12-18-2007 12:36 PM

Re: Rocky's out for the season, perhaps gone until 2009
 
[QUOTE=GMScud;394375]LBs rely heavily on speed and switching direction. Palmer is a pocket passer who can be effective without mobility. The question is, even if Rocky can come back next season at some point, how effective can he really be?[/QUOTE]

I know...just wishfull thinking...he's young maybe his recovery can be on the short end and he can play at least some of next season.

Bill B 12-18-2007 01:16 PM

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Does anyone know if Rocky wears knee braces? Do braces slow down a players mobility - if not why wouldn't players take the precaution like a hockey player wears a helmet and wear knee braces to help prevent injuries?

onlydarksets 12-18-2007 01:21 PM

Re: Rocky's out for the season, perhaps gone until 2009
 
[quote=Bill B;394597]Does anyone know if Rocky wears knee braces? Do braces slow down a players mobility - if not why wouldn't players take the precaution like a hockey player wears a helmet and wear knee braces to help prevent injuries?[/quote]

You mean like [URL="http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=82624&rendTypeId=4"]these[/URL]? Yeah, I'd imagine that would slow him down.

MTK 12-18-2007 01:26 PM

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Even with a knee brace you can still get injured.

Regardless, those big bulky ones that QBs wear are definitely cumbersome and someone like a linebacker isn't going to wear one.

calia 12-18-2007 02:01 PM

Re: Rocky's out for the season, perhaps gone until 2009
 
[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;394238]Well JLC is reporting that Rocky tore his MCL and ACL, [B]may be out until 2009[/B], and that it typically takes 18-24 months to fully recover from such severe injuries. That's a big blow. Between the severe injuries to Thomas, Jansen, Campbell, Rocky, and Rogers, the loss of Sean Taylor, and the nagging injuries to Rabach, Wade, ARE, Moss, Thrash, Washington, Griffin and Smoot, it is nothing short of astounding that we are 7-7. [U]That's 12/22 starters who are either done for or who have been suffering throughout the year.[/U][/QUOTE]

That's true, but it's not even a complete list -- we also lost Brandon Lloyd for the year [insert joke here], and at least Heyer, Springs, Portis, and Sellers have each missed time due to injury. So I think the tally is something more like 17/22 starters affected. I suspect we could confirm that no team has ever had to contend with this kind of carnage. Apart from the number of games missed, the sheer number of people affected is really hard to overcome as chemistry is so important. So in a sense, it is harder to have constant flux than losing a few players early for the year. We, sadly, have had both.

Bill B 12-18-2007 02:19 PM

Re: Rocky's out for the season, perhaps gone until 2009
 
[quote=onlydarksets;394605]You mean like [URL="http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=82624&rendTypeId=4"]these[/URL]? Yeah, I'd imagine that would slow him down.[/quote]

Not that type! - I was thinking of the one that you often see offensive lineman & qb's wear. But I saw from Matty's post that Linebackers and players in positions where there is a lot of cutting could not get away with wearing a brace.

I agree Matty that wearing them may not prevent a lot of the injuries - I am just trying to think of any way to prevent what we have witnessed on this team this year with injuries, but I guess it is just the "unluck of the draw" and our Skins are on the bad end of the injury bug.

Maybe one positive that comes out of this is that a lot of the players who normally don't start got some playing time and experience and that will help with depth in the future - although I heard that the normal team turnover in the NFL is somewhere around 25%, so a lot of the players may be elsewhere in years to come.

Skinner 12-18-2007 08:31 PM

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This is f**king great!! WTF!! we are cursed.


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