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[quote=skinsguy;397544]Have you guys ever wondered why teams from lower seeds often make it to the conference championship game if not the Super Bowl? It's often because their teams are having to finish strong just to make it into the playoffs, while the upper seeds usually clinch playoff spots by week 11, and kind of start drifting toward the finish line. In the case of the Redskins, if they can beat Dallas this weekend and make it in, they might have the advantage over the other teams. They are finishing strong and are red hot right now. In fact, everything seems to be working exactly the way it was meant to be. We can probably credit a lot of that to Todd Collins, but the team as a whole appears to have stepped it up a couple of notches.

Back ups or not, can you just imagine what this team will feel like if they dominate Dallas like they did Minnesota?[/quote]

I hate to say it, but I'm very nervous about this game. Man if we come out flat, we're done. I don't care who Dallas lines up. We've got to set the tone from the kick-off.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;397545]I hate to say it, but I'm very nervous about this game. Man if we come out flat, we're done. I don't care who Dallas lines up. We've got to set the tone from the kick-off.[/QUOTE]

Yup, but I can't imagine this team being unprepared. Gibbs and the players know what the rivarly means and that this game will decide our season. But, the Dallas players know that too. I expect a hard-fought battle, not some cakewalk.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;397547]Yup, but I can't imagine this team being unprepared. Gibbs and the players know what the rivarly means and that this game will decide our season. But, the Dallas players know that too. I expect a hard-fought battle, not some cakewalk.[/quote]


I just wish the fact the Dallas will be "resting" some of it's starters never came up. I hope Gibbs is preparing this team like Romo and T.O. will be playing for four quarters.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;397545]I hate to say it, but I'm very nervous about this game. Man if we come out flat, we're done. I don't care who Dallas lines up. We've got to set the tone from the kick-off.[/QUOTE]

I'm nervous about it too! Make no mistake, Gibbs will have them mentality prepared for the game. I'm just wondering who you game plan for? There is no guarantee Wade will not play his starters (with the exception of TO.) Either way though, the 'Skins need to make this game out to be as if this is the Super Bowl!

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Even if Dallas comes on the field with the mindset to win, which I would expect them to do, if the Skins can just get up early, the Cowboys will really let down. Deep down they know they don't need this game. Football is really about heart, will and desire as much as talent and execution. The Cowboys won't have as much desire as the Skins will this week. No one can tell me otherwise.

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I don't think we'll have to worry about a letdown on Sunday, they've been in playoff mode for the last 4 weeks. This team knows what's in front of them. Win and they're in. If they can't get up for that they don't deserve to go.

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I'm glad you didn't make an official prediction.

So far so good.

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[quote=jsarno;397398]Sorry, I had a nice big party over here watching the game. Too busy with vodka and teasing the one vikings fan here. :D

So what happened that you needed to have your back covered?

BTW- does anyone know if Hawaii is on a time delay when it comes to televised games??? I will be going on a pearl harbor excursion during the NFC championship game, and if the skins are in it, I need to find a way to watch it. Any suggestions?[/quote]

There won't be a delay in Hawai'i. Just find a bar or sit in your hotel room. I'll keep my fingers crossed!

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[quote=12thMan;397545]I hate to say it, but I'm very nervous about this game. Man if we come out flat, we're done. I don't care who Dallas lines up. We've got to set the tone from the kick-off.[/quote]

Myself!
I am a veteran of the Clint Longley debacle, and my paranoia factor went through the roof when I heard the "no starters" stuff. Rest assured, the only one more paranoid than me, is Gibbs. Gibbs will have the squad taking no prisoners.
If Wade decides to rest the whole team and play the cheerleaders, JOE2 will give that..................girl squad the THRASHIN' of their lives!

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[quote=jsarno;397294]The Redskins have rewarded our faith with an intensely important game in week 17. There have not been many of us that remained faithful and believed in the 07 Skins, but those that have...pat yourselves on the back. You are a solid reason why the Skins have been successful lately. Faith is a powerful thing.
I'm going to take the high road here. I could write a list of people (a long list mind you) that gave up on this team, and some that made threads about our demise, but instead of dwelling on that, I am inviting everyone to enjoy where we are RIGHT NOW. We have a chance to make the playoffs with only 1 more win. Win and you're in. It doesn't get much better than this. For as corny as this sounds, let's all join together and enjoy this as a whole as only we can do as the best fans on the planet.
I forgo any grudges I have on posters here that have been less than optimistic, and I look forward to ALL OF US enjoying a victory over hated Dallas to get into the playoffs. Who's with me?[/quote]

Great thread! i was thinking about all the people on this site who counted the skins out all season. Part of being a fan is wanting your team to suceed and sticking with them through their darkest hour, not kicking them when they're down. It's been an extremely tough season for this team and the way they have responded has made me very proud to say I'm a Redskins fan. I continue to be impressed with our Hall of Fame Coach Joe Gibbs and hope he remains with the Skins for years to come. BEAT DALLAS!!!

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As a Redskins fan, I expect nothing less than a Lombardi Trophy each year. However, as a fan of the game, I realize that there are going to be times where my team does not do enough to earn that respect and that trophy. And I can live with that.

Predictions aside, it's been a hell of a ride to this week. Beat Dallas Sunday afternoon at 4:15 Eastern (11:15 in Hawaii) and the 6th seed belongs to the Skins. 2 times in 3 years, the Skins will have backed into the playoffs...

There is a difference between wavering doubt and giving up. I never give up...

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[QUOTE=BDBohnzie;397583] 2 times in 3 years, the Skins will have backed into the playoffs...[/QUOTE]

[B]Correction[/B] if they make the playoffs they would have [B]EARNED[/B] not [B]BACKED[/B] into the playoffs. The last 3 games have been hard fought and I expect the same come Sunday. If Minnesota or NO make the playoffs that's backing in.

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[quote=Mattyk72;397475]Yeah, a 9-7 [I]playoff[/I] team.

That's nothing to be ashamed about. Anything can happen in the playoffs and this team appears to be peaking at the right time.[/quote]

All I'm saying is the odds are stacked against the Skins. Got to win 3 road playoff games to get to The Promised Land and that isn't going to be easy.

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thanks for hanging in there?look if you aint left the team by now you'll never leave.I've been a skins fine since 91.which means i got to enjoy the terrible 92-04 seasons.yeah we made the playoffs a few times between there but i'll never take off.

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[QUOTE=DGreene28;397574]There won't be a delay in Hawai'i. Just find a bar or sit in your hotel room. I'll keep my fingers crossed![/QUOTE]

CRAP! That's not good. I wonder if I can pay the concierge to tape it for me or something...maybe they have a DVR or something.

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[QUOTE=DGreene28;397582]Great thread! i was thinking about all the people on this site who counted the skins out all season. Part of being a fan is wanting your team to suceed and sticking with them through their darkest hour, not kicking them when they're down. It's been an extremely tough season for this team and the way they have responded has made me very proud to say I'm a Redskins fan. I continue to be impressed with our Hall of Fame Coach Joe Gibbs and hope he remains with the Skins for years to come. BEAT DALLAS!!![/QUOTE]

I agree...Gibbs has done one hell of a job. Sure he has made some pretty evident mistakes, but I seriously doubt anyone could have accomplished what he has. How many teams lost a ton of their starters during the season, including o-line and starting qb, plus the death of an all pro, and will make the playoffs...only 1! The Skins. That's Gibbs...plain and simple.

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[QUOTE=saden1;397626]All I'm saying is the odds are stacked against the Skins. Got to win 3 road playoff games to get to The Promised Land and that isn't going to be easy.[/QUOTE]

The odds are definitely stacked against the Redskins this postseason. The team will be playing on the road without half of its starters in the secondary, McIntosh, the starters on the right side of the O-line, and their #1 QB. And that assumes that the team beats Dallas, which probably will not be as easy as some expect.

That said, I'll be happy with A playoff appearance. Perhaps my standards are too low, but after the playoff drought from 1992-1998 and 2000-2004 I just want to see our team play in January. Moreover, with all that this team has gone through this season, I think it's reasonable to hang our hats on a wildcard spot.

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I know i gave up..
right after that Bills game i was like, i had enough..
but that giving up thing only worked for about 1 day : )

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Hey, wheres PaulSkinsFan?

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[QUOTE=BDBohnzie;397583] 2 times in 3 years, the Skins will have backed into the playoffs...
[/QUOTE]

I don't know if I would call that backing into the playoffs. If you're controlling your own fate by simply winning out, that's earning your spot not backing in.

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I'm going to go ahead and call this thread retarded.

What so many people fail to realize - and it's the reason we've had this stupid divide on the site between "Kool Aid drinkers" and "Haterade drinkers" - is that there is a huge distinction between what you THINK will happen and what you WANT (or hope) to happen.

There's not a single one of us who stopped watching the games, stopped reading everything we could about the team, stopped discussing the team, or started cheering for another team. We all remained devoted fans. That's the one thing we all have in common here.

Our only differences throughout the year were in our opinions of how good the team was. [B]Being a fan does not mean you think they're always going to win[/B]. Being a fan means you love them, whether they win or lose.

Retarded thread. Please start getting what it means to be a fan.

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[QUOTE=saden1;397300]You don't have to name names, everyone knows who they are. I'm not much of a homer so I guess I'm in the list of unfaithful. A playoff birth is nice but I need and want a SB caliber team. Through all the excitement one needs to be mindful that the Skins are going to be a 9-7 team.[/QUOTE]

yepper it,s great to be in the playoff hunt again but i want to get back into superbowl contention again..but it seasons like this one that can bring a skins team together for a longtime to come hopefully....and one other thing your avatar is a great reminder that it,s been awhile since we last experienced something that special...i want more but having the team fighting it,s guts out again is a start. it feels good for once ....like you i want a little more.

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[quote=Schneed10;397733]I'm going to go ahead and call this thread retarded.

What so many people fail to realize - and it's the reason we've had this stupid divide on the site between "Kool Aid drinkers" and "Haterade drinkers" - is that there is a huge distinction between what you THINK will happen and what you WANT (or hope) to happen.

There's not a single one of us who stopped watching the games, stopped reading everything we could about the team, stopped discussing the team, or started cheering for another team. We all remained devoted fans. That's the one thing we all have in common here.

Our only differences throughout the year were in our opinions of how good the team was. [B]Being a fan does not mean you think they're always going to win[/B]. Being a fan means you love them, whether they win or lose.

Retarded thread. Please start getting what it means to be a fan.[/quote]

Amen...preach on...preach on.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;397733]I'm going to go ahead and call this thread retarded.

What so many people fail to realize - and it's the reason we've had this stupid divide on the site between "Kool Aid drinkers" and "Haterade drinkers" - is that there is a huge distinction between what you THINK will happen and what you WANT (or hope) to happen.

There's not a single one of us who stopped watching the games, stopped reading everything we could about the team, stopped discussing the team, or started cheering for another team. We all remained devoted fans. That's the one thing we all have in common here.

Our only differences throughout the year were in our opinions of how good the team was. [B]Being a fan does not mean you think they're always going to win[/B]. Being a fan means you love them, whether they win or lose.

Retarded thread. Please start getting what it means to be a fan.[/QUOTE]

That's the most sane post I've read so far in this thread.

Case in point: as a die hard fan for decades I obviously watched this season's matchup with the Patriots. Did I [B]want[/B] us to win? Absolutely! Did I [B]hope[/B] that we'd win? Of course! Did I watch every last down and second of the game? As always.

But did I honestly think that we would beat what is possibly the best football team of the modern era? Hell no. Common sense says we'd get our asses kicked, and we did.

Why some people can't grasp this concept is beyond me. Being a fan does not mean you turn your brain off and float around on hope and warm fuzzy feelings. You can be a fan and be rational at the same time, believe it or not.

Honestly, this thread is no different than that stupid "Amnesty for Kool-Aid Drinkers" debacle of a couple weeks ago.

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If people want to come out and say "Hey, I told you they'd make the playoffs," then I'm fine with that. Because that's a debate over what we THOUGHT would happen. And if you predicted playoffs for us, and we make it, then go nuts rubbing people's nose in it.

But for people to question each other's fanhood because people thought the Redskins wouldn't make it? That makes no sense. Of course we all wanted them to make it, that was never a debate.

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[quote=GTripp0012;397719]Hey, wheres PaulSkinsFan?[/quote]

I'm sure he's greatly missed but seriously, he's not here anymore let's just leave it at that.

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[quote=mheisig;397754]Why some people can't grasp this concept is beyond me. [B]Being a fan does not mean you turn your brain off and float around on hope and warm fuzzy feelings[/B]. You can be a fan and be rational at the same time, believe it or not.[/quote]

Sure you can, if I can do it so can you?

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[quote=Schneed10;397759]If people want to come out and say "Hey, I told you they'd make the playoffs," then I'm fine with that. Because that's a debate over what we THOUGHT would happen. And if you predicted playoffs for us, and we make it, then go nuts rubbing people's nose in it.

[B]But for people to question each other's fanhood because people thought the Redskins wouldn't make it? That makes no sense. Of course we all wanted them to make it, that was never a debate[/B].[/quote]

Thankfully I don't think this fits the majority of people here, just the extremists on either side. I think most people here are rational and level headed.

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[quote=mheisig;397754]That's the most sane post I've read so far in this thread.

Case in point: as a die hard fan for decades I obviously watched this season's matchup with the Patriots. Did I [B]want[/B] us to win? Absolutely! Did I [B]hope[/B] that we'd win? Of course! Did I watch every last down and second of the game? As always.

But did I honestly think that we would beat what is possibly the best football team of the modern era? Hell no. Common sense says we'd get our asses kicked, and we did.

Why some people can't grasp this concept is beyond me. Being a fan does not mean you turn your brain off and float around on hope and warm fuzzy feelings. You can be a fan and be rational at the same time, believe it or not.

[B]Honestly, this thread is no different than that stupid "Amnesty for Kool-Aid Drinkers" debacle of a couple weeks ago[/B].[/quote]

LOL yeah, and how retarded does that thread look now?!

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;397763]Thankfully I don't think this fits the majority of people here, just the extremists on either side. I think most people here are rational and level headed.[/QUOTE]

I thought there was some unwritten bylaw here that I missed that demanded that you immediately question an individuals loyalty, "fanhood" and testicle size when they dare to raise any kind of problem or "negative" thought.

Didn't someone threaten to shoot somebody in a game thread for not being a fan? I mean seriously...

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[quote=mheisig;397767]Didn't someone [B]threaten to shoot[/B] somebody in a game thread for not being a fan? I mean seriously...[/quote]

Tell me you're joking!

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[quote=Schneed10;397733]I'm going to go ahead and call this thread retarded.

What so many people fail to realize - and it's the reason we've had this stupid divide on the site between "Kool Aid drinkers" and "Haterade drinkers" - is that there is a huge distinction between what you THINK will happen and what you WANT (or hope) to happen.

There's not a single one of us who stopped watching the games, stopped reading everything we could about the team, stopped discussing the team, or started cheering for another team. We all remained devoted fans. That's the one thing we all have in common here.

Our only differences throughout the year were in our opinions of how good the team was. [B]Being a fan does not mean you think they're always going to win[/B]. Being a fan means you love them, whether they win or lose.

Retarded thread. Please start getting what it means to be a fan.[/quote]

Well said!

I think if you are still coming to this site you are a true fan.

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[QUOTE=saden1;397770]Tell me you're joking![/QUOTE]

I wish.

I think jsarno was on some rant during a game a month or so ago and threatened to shoot me, or somebody else, it wasn't entirely clear.

I'm sure (?) it was all in jest, but even still. Hopefully it was one or eight too many beers.

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[QUOTE=mheisig;397767]I thought there was some unwritten bylaw here that I missed that demanded that you immediately question an individuals loyalty, "fanhood" and testicle size when they dare to raise any kind of problem or "negative" thought.

Didn't someone threaten to shoot somebody in a game thread for not being a fan? I mean seriously...[/QUOTE]

I believe we're all Redskins fans. I just believe some people tend to be so overly critical of every single aspect that I wonder if they even enjoy watching the Redskins play football? At least, that is the impression I get sometimes.

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[QUOTE=skinsguy;397776]I believe we're all Redskins fans. I just believe some people tend to be so overly critical of every single aspect that I wonder if they even enjoy watching the Redskins play football? At least, that is the impression I get sometimes.[/QUOTE]

I would agree. But wouldn't you also agree that some people are so blindly optimistic that they can't see reality on occasion? Is it wrong to point out and discuss the problems?

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[quote=mheisig;397778]I would agree. But wouldn't you also agree that some people are so blindly optimistic that they can't see reality on occasion? Is it wrong to point out and discuss the problems?[/quote]

Of course, it goes both ways.

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[QUOTE=mheisig;397778]I would agree. But wouldn't you also agree that some people are so blindly optimistic that they can't see reality on occasion? Is it wrong to point out and discuss the problems?[/QUOTE]


I guess I'd have to understand your definition of what blind optimism is before I could agree or disagree. There are some who more optimistic than not and some who are more negative than not. When you group those people into one room or forum, you tend to have clashes of personalities. Especially with the extremists on both sides. Such as those who say to fire Joe Gibbs after each loss or to bench all the starters. I'd find just as out of touch with reality as I would those who say we're going to the Super Bowl even if we're 6-10.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;397618][B]Correction[/B] if they make the playoffs they would have [B]EARNED[/B] not [B]BACKED[/B] into the playoffs. The last 3 games have been hard fought and I expect the same come Sunday. If Minnesota or NO make the playoffs that's backing in.[/QUOTE]
I'm not debating that it wasn't earned, because the Skins have overcome tremendous odds. I use the word "backed" because of the fact that they lost 5 games this season when they had the lead in the 2nd half, and that it will take another string of wins in a row to make the postseason.

If the Skins win 1 of those 5, and continue their course, they would be sitting pretty with the 6th seed locked up. Win 2, and one could say they would be the 5th seed (especially if they take the 1st Giants game). So while they are on their way to earning the last playoff spot, they certainly took the hard way, or back door so to speak...

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;397759]If people want to come out and say "Hey, I told you they'd make the playoffs," then I'm fine with that. Because that's a debate over what we THOUGHT would happen. And if you predicted playoffs for us, and we make it, then go nuts rubbing people's nose in it.

But for people to question each other's fanhood because people thought the Redskins wouldn't make it? That makes no sense. Of course we all wanted them to make it, that was never a debate.[/QUOTE]

I think, perhaps incorrectly, that jsarno didn't mean to call anyone out in a negative way. I think he meant to give props to people who thought we would make the playoffs.

I certainly think that everyone on this site is a Redskins fan, save for guys like sandtrapjack and Giantone. But, I wouldn't mind seeing certain people [U]voluntarily[/U] admit that they were wrong when they said things, "lol...if you think the Redskins will make the playoffs you need to remove your burgundy and gold glasses because you are delusional....lol."

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I recall being called a homer for picking the Skins over the Giants and hearing stuff like it was impossible that the Skins would beat the Giants and Vikings. It would be nice to hear from some of those people now.

Stuff like that is the reason we have threads like this. Some people make some pretty bold statements, and when proven wrong you never hear from them.