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They need to give Anthony Mix a good look next year. My girlfriends brother is a Giants fan, and he said Anthony had a great preason, and the Giant where very high on him.

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trade up, take chris long-virginia....

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Right now, we could improve anything, besides a RB; likely a receiver, or somebody in the secondary.

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[QUOTE=WaldSkins;403209]trade up, take chris long-virginia....[/QUOTE]

i am a hokie, but to me chris long is one of the sure things in this draft. trading up would take a lot of picks, so id be against that, but he is going to be a great player

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a big reciever that can go get the ball like Mario Urrita from Louisville he is 6'6" and my sleeper at WR in this year's draft

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People.... we lost that game yesterday in the trenches. Football games are won and lost in the trenches! We have to get better in that area. I don't want to hear about WR's and CB's. The O-line needs depth and a youth movement in the worst way. Fabini, Wade and Kendall are just stop gaps. I also didn't see Hassleback under duress for most of the game. Where is our pass rush from the front 4? Your weaknesses really show up in the playoffs and ours did yesterday. Pass rushers and o-linemen should be the number 1 priority.

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Does anyone realize that Mix and Calvin Johnson have the sa,e build. I like what I have seen from Mix. Maybe he can be our big reciever. From what I have seen and heard he is very fast.

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I know the need for a LB has been mentioned by a few of you, but I am surprised its not higher at the top of the list. Fletcher is set, but Mcintosh is a ? and I don't see Washington having too many more years left in the tank. I would like to add a LB with one of our first 3 draft picks. Lets fix this problem now.

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1) O-line.
2) D-end
3) Cb (rogers out all season?)
4) Big WR
5) D-Tackle

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;403224]People.... we lost that game yesterday in the trenches. Football games are won and lost in the trenches! We have to get better in that area. I don't want to hear about WR's and CB's. The O-line needs depth and a youth movement in the worst way. Fabini, Wade and Kendall are just stop gaps. I also didn't see Hassleback under duress for most of the game. Where is our pass rush from the front 4? Your weaknesses really show up in the playoffs and ours did yesterday. Pass rushers and o-linemen should be the number 1 priority.[/QUOTE]

Definitely agree about the O-line, that's why I think we should spend our 2nd, 3rd, and possibly 5th round picks on linemen. I'm not convinced there is an offensive guard or tackle available around where we draft in the first round. Heyer got abused yesterday but it's part of the maturation process. Overall, I think we've found a real gem in him. I also think we might have another diamond in the rough in Lorenzo Alexander if we commit fully to making him an offensive lineman.

Defensively, I probably haven't mentioned this on this site before but I think Justin Smith would be a great pickup :) If we go the draft route to get a DE, then that's where I think you spend your first round pick. I think Carter has more than proven himself at the other end and Wilson has emerged as a good 3rd down pass rusher. One guy who had an underrated year this past season was DeMetric Evans when they lined him up on the inside.

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Does anyone know how many times we had a third or fourth and one to go and could not get one yard?
We got John Riggins from the Jets and wonder if there are any Joe Gibbs running backs still around

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;403147]The way I see it is:
[B]Offensive Line[/B]
You move Alexander as a G
We have a Heyer as backup
Draft a young G/C combo guy in the 3rd or 4th round and another one in the 5th/6th

[B]Defensive line[/B]

Draft a DE with the first round pick if you get an equivalent one in the 2nd round then pick a WR or CB
Give Wilson and Buzbee a chance next year, I think after an off season of bulking up and learning new techniques this guys could be here for a while.

[B]Secondary[/B]

Bring back Springs
Draft a young CB round depends on talent level at other positions
[B]
Wide Receiver[/B]

Give Espy and Mix a chance
Draft a young physical receiver, again round depends on talent level

[B]Linebacker[/B]

Either draft a mid-round or sign FA

[B]Running Back[/B]

Draft a Joe Gibbs type RB in the mid-rounds

[B]Kicker[/B]

Draft one in the late rounds

Note* Bring back Springs, Griffin and Daniels (I'm on the fence on this one)[/QUOTE]

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[quote=SmootSmack;403233]Definitely agree about the O-line, that's why I think we should spend our 2nd, 3rd, and possibly 5th round picks on linemen. I'm not convinced there is an offensive guard or tackle available around where we draft in the first round. Heyer got abused yesterday but it's part of the maturation process. Overall, I think we've found a real gem in him. I also think we might have another diamond in the rough in Lorenzo Alexander if we commit fully to making him an offensive lineman.

Defensively, I probably haven't mentioned this on this site before but I think Justin Smith would be a great pickup :) If we go the draft route to get a DE, then that's where I think you spend your first round pick. I think Carter has more than proven himself at the other end and Wilson has emerged as a good 3rd down pass rusher. One guy who had an underrated year this past season was DeMetric Evans when they lined him up on the inside.[/quote]

Justin Smith?? He's a solid player on a bad defense. But why would Cinn. let him walk when he's probably their best defensive player? We need a dominate guy with a high motor on our front 7. I just don't see that in Smith. We gotta draft a guy. Someone like a Ware or Merriman. Someone that just creates havoc.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;403230]Does anyone realize that Mix and Calvin Johnson have the sa,e build. I like what I have seen from Mix. Maybe he can be our big reciever. From what I have seen and heard he is very fast.[/quote]

The difference is one has serious skills and the other one does not.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;403252]Justin Smith?? He's a solid player on a bad defense. But why would Cinn. let him walk when he's probably their best defensive player? We need a dominate guy with a high motor on our front 7. I just don't see that in Smith. We gotta draft a guy. Someone like a Ware or Merriman. Someone that just creates havoc.[/QUOTE]

Someone like a Derrick Harvey?

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;403256]Someone like a Derrick Harvey?[/QUOTE]

yea derrick harvey is an animal always going and created havoc on a consistene basis, possibly the best pass rusher in the draft if he comes out

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;403259]yea derrick harvey is an animal always going and created havoc on a consistene basis, possibly the best pass rusher in the draft if he comes out[/QUOTE]

Except isn't he more suited for a 3-4? He is from Greenbelt, MD though

Still if we're going to draft a DE in the first round I'd prefer Groves or Campbell

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;403259]yea derrick harvey is an animal always going and created havoc on a consistene basis, possibly the best pass rusher in the draft if he comes out[/QUOTE]

He is coming out. [url=http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=333088]SportingNews.com - Your expert source for NCAA Football stats, scores, standings, and blogs from NCAA Football columnists[/url]

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This is what to see happen before kick-off in week 1 of 08-09:


1) We have to get a tall play-maker receiver that Campbell will throw the ball to. Moss isn't tall enough, but he has the speed, but he is underused. I don't know if either we package Collins and Lloyd to trade up with a team that wants a chance to win, and is judging Collins for his play, instead of understanding that he is a back-up.


2) We spend our money that we get from ST to either re-sign players, or if it makes better sense, get someone new. Retire #21. No questions, just do it.


3) Campbell has to start to follow Saunders offense, this made Collins look fabulous, he listened to the highest paid O-coordinator in the league. We realize that with a good bit of talent, and following Saunders offense, Campbell could be in the top 10.


4) We need to get a good kicker, we have lacked one of them for sometime. Arguably our loss was thanks to the momentum change out of the missed chip-shot field goal. 17 unanswered points hurts.


5) How about a roof on the stadium, that would make it louder!


6) We have to avoid long loosing streaks, no more than 2 at a time, it downs the whole team, in contrast, more winning streaks would be nice!

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Isn't Briggs a free agent now?

[QUOTE=heybigstar;403231]I know the need for a LB has been mentioned by a few of you, but I am surprised its not higher at the top of the list. Fletcher is set, but Mcintosh is a ? and I don't see Washington having too many more years left in the tank. I would like to add a LB with one of our first 3 draft picks. Lets fix this problem now.[/QUOTE]

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[quote=DynamiteRave;402992]Depth in the O-Line

[B]I don't think a big receiver is absolutely necessary cause we do have Mix who I think needs to be resigned because that guy has the potential to be huge. [/B]

Someone to step in at SS since I assume they're going to keep Landry at FS

A pass rusher?[/quote]I agree about Mix - he has been great on special teams and deserves a chance to show what he can do on offense as a #3 WR, especially in the red zone.

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The new RFK could have a Retractible roof ???

[QUOTE=Campbell17;403276]This is what to see happen before kick-off in week 1 of 08-09:


1) We have to get a tall play-maker receiver that Campbell will throw the ball to. Moss isn't tall enough, but he has the speed, but he is underused. I don't know if either we package Collins and Lloyd to trade up with a team that wants a chance to win, and is judging Collins for his play, instead of understanding that he is a back-up.


2) We spend our money that we get from ST to either re-sign players, or if it makes better sense, get someone new. Retire #21. No questions, just do it.


3) Campbell has to start to follow Saunders offense, this made Collins look fabulous, he listened to the highest paid O-coordinator in the league. We realize that with a good bit of talent, and following Saunders offense, Campbell could be in the top 10.


4) We need to get a good kicker, we have lacked one of them for sometime. Arguably our loss was thanks to the momentum change out of the missed chip-shot field goal. 17 unanswered points hurts.


5) How about a roof on the stadium, that would make it louder!


6) We have to avoid long loosing streaks, no more than 2 at a time, it downs the whole team, in contrast, more winning streaks would be nice![/QUOTE]

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Let us pickup the Tennessee kicker

[QUOTE=rk3025;403282]The new RFK could have a Retractible roof ???[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Campbell17;403276]This is what to see happen before kick-off in week 1 of 08-09:


1) We have to get a tall play-maker receiver that Campbell will throw the ball to. Moss isn't tall enough, but he has the speed, but he is underused. I don't know if either we package Collins and Lloyd to trade up with a team that wants a chance to win, and is judging Collins for his play, instead of understanding that he is a back-up.


2) We spend our money that we get from ST to either re-sign players, or if it makes better sense, get someone new. Retire #21. No questions, just do it.


3) Campbell has to start to follow Saunders offense, this made Collins look fabulous, he listened to the highest paid O-coordinator in the league. We realize that with a good bit of talent, and following Saunders offense, Campbell could be in the top 10.


4) We need to get a good kicker, we have lacked one of them for sometime. Arguably our loss was thanks to the momentum change out of the missed chip-shot field goal. 17 unanswered points hurts.


5) How about a roof on the stadium, that would make it louder!


6) We have to avoid long loosing streaks, no more than 2 at a time, it downs the whole team, in contrast, more winning streaks would be nice![/QUOTE]

1. Not sure I understand the Collins comment.

2. What money from ST?

3. I don't think Campbell's problem is that he doesn't listen to Saunders. It's that he's still trying to grasp the offense.

4. Bring in some competition

5. We can put a man on the moon, but... Seriously, this is really unlikely

6. More wins, fewer losses? I think we can all agree with that

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;403260]Except isn't he more suited for a 3-4? He is from Greenbelt, MD though

Still if we're going to draft a DE in the first round I'd prefer Groves or Campbell[/QUOTE]

He is one of those that can go both ways as a guy who puts his hand down or a stand up guy off the edge he has played both alot at Florida and he is a nice guy at that. lol

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VERY GOOD we have done wonders with our crew under Williams
Did you see the Seattle LB's move ?
We need that as Rocky is out

QUOTE=heybigstar;403231]I know the need for a LB has been mentioned by a few of you, but I am surprised its not higher at the top of the list. Fletcher is set, but Mcintosh is a ? and I don't see Washington having too many more years left in the tank. I would like to add a LB with one of our first 3 draft picks. Lets fix this problem now.[/QUOTE]

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williamson isn't the WR you want. he's terrible, and its not the vikes, it's him.

CJ, bryant, etc are much much better options. we don't need another worthless depth receiver at $$$$.

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[quote=That Guy;403299]williamson isn't the WR you want. he's terrible, and its not the vikes, it's him.

CJ, bryant, etc are much much better options. we don't need another worthless depth receiver at $$$$.[/quote]


True, troy williamson is horrible, total bust that would be the worst free agent signing ever if we ended up bringing him in

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Yesterday's game was to me a case of our injuries (and of course, ST's death) catching up w/us. The D did a good job overall, (they had to punt 7 times) but Seattle was able to exploit it enough. On O, our weak right side of the line, was manhandled. Can't blame Heyer for not being able to block Kerney. Fabini was run over a couple times by blitzing LBs. Our Wr's couldn't get much space.

So to answer the question this thread poses; I think we need to devote 1 or 2 of our highest draft picks to the D (we will be missing our top picks from 04-06 when the season begins) & the rest on the offense, mainly the O line. On D we have a lot of needs, DE, OLB & CB. On O, if Jansen & Thomas are healty, we are only a player or two away from being really explosive.

In free agency or trades, WR might be our best bet. I can't see the front office being able to land replacements that are even 50% the quality of Rogers, Taylor & Rocky, but on the offensive side of the ball, a couple moves & draft picks for depth, could make our offense the dominant unit on the team in 08.

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Let Joe Gibbs retire.the guy is a legend and hall of famer but he's like a charoit in a los angeles freeway.He's out of his league at this point.he did lead us to a great finish dont get me wrong but the fire isnt there.I would go for Cowher or even Billick.A coach that would make you accountable for your actions. Also Draft Calais Campbell young defensive end in this years draft.He would fit Williams scheme perfectly and compliment Carter on the other side.We need that strong pass rushing game that will allow us to compete against the N.F.C's best quarterbacks i.e. Romo,Manning and Mcnabb

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[QUOTE=prinzeofmoval;403323]Let Joe Gibbs retire.the guy is a legend and hall of famer but he's like a charoit in a los angeles freeway.He's out of his league at this point.he did lead us to a great finish dont get me wrong but the fire isnt there.I would go for Cowher or even Billick.A coach that would make you accountable for your actions. Also Draft Calais Campbell young defensive end in this years draft.He would fit Williams scheme perfectly and compliment Carter on the other side.We need that strong pass rushing game that will allow us to compete against the N.F.C's best quarterbacks i.e. Romo,Manning and Mcnabb[/QUOTE]

Calais Campbell I'm sure will get a lot of attention from us. He could be a good choice.

Why you'd want Brian Billick over Joe Gibbs is beyond me.

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[quote=pdid5000;402976]A 6'3+ receiver without a doubt, also a de or cb with our 1st round pick.[/quote]


Yes all that, plus depth at O line like our fellow Warpath buds have suggested. Mainly this season was screwed over by ungodly injuries/tragedies and downright crappy execution.

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[quote=Campbell17;403276]This is what to see happen before kick-off in week 1 of 08-09:


1) We have to get a tall play-maker receiver that Campbell will throw the ball to. Moss isn't tall enough, but he has the speed, but he is underused. I don't know if either we package Collins and Lloyd to trade up with a team that wants a chance to win, and is judging Collins for his play, instead of understanding that he is a back-up.

lloyd is going to make like 700k next season and then his money jumps to something like 4mill per year. NO ONE Is EVER going to trade for him with that contract. he has 0 trade value anyways, and i hate how people always assume we can trade our crap for something that's actually worthwhile... doesn't work like that (except in the kwame for caron trade (the laker's were soooo retarded on that one)).


2) We spend our money that we get from ST to either re-sign players, or if it makes better sense, get someone new. Retire #21. No questions, just do it.


3) Campbell has to start to follow Saunders offense, this made Collins look fabulous, he listened to the highest paid O-coordinator in the league. We realize that with a good bit of talent, and following Saunders offense, Campbell could be in the top 10.


4) We need to get a good kicker, we have lacked one of them for sometime. Arguably our loss was thanks to the momentum change out of the missed chip-shot field goal. 17 unanswered points hurts.


5) How about a roof on the stadium, that would make it louder!


6) We have to avoid long loosing streaks, no more than 2 at a time, it downs the whole team, in contrast, more winning streaks would be nice![/quote]

1) tall receiver != good receiver. though a stud #1 guy would be a crazy upgrade. our depth would be amazing is our current WRs (minus lloyd) all shifted down a spot.

2) what money? we're not getting any money. death is treated like being cut or retiring. all SB money is instantly due, and forward salaries are erased.

3) i have no idea what you're talking about. campbell did exactly what he was told to do. while he was in, portis and moss (and our OL) weren't playing well, and gibbs/al were forcing a very conservative gameplan on campbell. once todd came in, the offence completely changed and deep passes came more than one or twice a game. the COACHES need to give campbell the entire offence next year.

4) we have a good kicker (83%). If we wanted to draft one, gostkowski and crosby were the ones to get. while it is possible to get an upgrade there, it's not very likely, and we have MUCH higher priorities.

5) snyder's already looked into it (new stadium and a balloon roof kinda deal for fedex) to win superbowl bids. it's not happening any time soon though.

6) that's not really something you can control beyond preparing well, managing your roster and hoping for the best.

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It's sounding like someone is confusing real life with Madden up in here.

:doh:

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I want a kicker that consistantly kicks touchbacks,makes 99 percent of his kicks,and also he's the punter,is that too much to ask?
:lol::laughing-:bdh::laughing2:insane::headbange:food-smil

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Forget DEPTH at offensive line we need starters. Randy Thomas has been injured TWO years in a row. How can some of you fans just expect the injury prone players to always be your starter. Jon Jansen is the same way. Injury prone. Neither player will finish a season if the final 2 are any indication.

Use the first 2 draft picks on an offensive right tackle and a right guard. We lost the game because of a number of reasons including Cooleys dropped pass at the 2 yard line. It wouldn't bother me if the skins drafted a tight end with the first pick. Cooley catches 70 balls a year but he gets thrown to 100 times. We need a Jason Witten tight end who never drops critical passes.

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This chat room stuff gets old because its too slow. I want to know if anybody likes to talk live or if there is a live chat room with audio about the SKINS. If not, I am thinking about starting a Redskins weekly conference call line where we could get together on the phone in a chat room environment.

Anyone else interested except me?

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[QUOTE=fortysixdefense;403375]This chat room stuff gets old because its too slow. I want to know if anybody likes to talk live or if there is a live chat room with audio about the SKINS. If not, I am thinking about starting a Redskins weekly conference call line where we could get together on the phone in a chat room environment.

Anyone else interested except me?[/QUOTE]

You joined to say you don't really want to be here? That's a shame because it seems like you could be a good addition to the site. But you'd rather everyone get on the phone and talk?

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[QUOTE=fortysixdefense;403372]Forget DEPTH at offensive line we need starters. Randy Thomas has been injured TWO years in a row. How can some of you fans just expect the injury prone players to always be your starter. Jon Jansen is the same way. Injury prone. Neither player will finish a season if the final 2 are any indication.

Use the first 2 draft picks on an offensive right tackle and a right guard. We lost the game because of a number of reasons including Cooleys dropped pass at the 2 yard line. It wouldn't bother me if the skins drafted a tight end with the first pick. Cooley catches 70 balls a year but he gets thrown to 100 times. We need a Jason Witten tight end who never drops critical passes.[/QUOTE]

Ok, he dropped a poorly thrown ball so he gets knocked b/c the QB didn't throw a good ball. Where do you find these guys we need to start giving IQ test to get on this site.

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Draft:
1 corner
1 DE
1 or 2 offensive linemen
1 LB
1 DT
perhaps 1 QB or RB for young depth

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[QUOTE=skinsnut;403524]Draft:
1 corner
1 DE
1 or 2 offensive linemen
1 LB
1 DT
perhaps 1 QB or RB for young depth[/QUOTE]

I think DT is one of the least needs right now. Golston and Montgomery are two solid young tackles and Griffin can still play. If they get Springs to renegotiate, I don't think CB is too important in this year's draft.

I'd like to see them draft a QB late to develop over the next several years.

I agree with looking at DE, OL, and LB. I'd also add WR. I actually think any big money we have should go to WR, so I think that may be best handled in FA or through trade.