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GusFrerotte 01-26-2008 04:33 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
Dumb move if Snyder hired two assistants out of the blue before hiring a HC. What if the new HC doesn't mesh with his assistants? What if they aren't on the same page? Skins are turning into a joke if Snyder did this ad hoc without knowing who his HC is. You hire the HC who then hires his own staff. Skins are not going to be a real contender for a while if this is a shoot from the hip move. I mean Jim Zorn? Come on!

Counter-Tre 01-26-2008 04:35 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
Is there a more impulsive and impatient horse's ass than our owner? If this guy were making minute rice, 30 second in he'd say , "Fuck it, this is never gonna cook" and start over.

SBXVII 01-26-2008 04:38 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
[quote=redwagonskins;413250]Really? As the HC, you are ultimately responsible for what happens on the field and if the team doesn't fare well, you are getting fired. With that in mind, would you really want to go to a team where the OC and DC have been hand-picked for you? And what if you have a system that is different than the ones they employ? Are you going to run yours and have ineffective coordinators? It's one thing for HC's to want to control personnel matters, but I think most people looking at a HC gig would like some control over their fate.[/quote]

I would if I were Fassell who simply has no coordinator skills but great leadership skills wishing I could get another chance anywhere that would hire me. I would give the coordinators total autonomy and let me stand in front of the media giving the presser DS wants me to give.

JGisLordOfTheRings 01-26-2008 04:41 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
[quote=Counter-Tre;413381]Is there a more impulsive and impatient horse's ass than our owner? If this guy were making minute rice, 30 second in he'd say , "Fuck it, this is never gonna cook" and start over.[/quote]

Awesome.

As much as doom and gloom I REALLY want to be about this matter, I have come to the conclusion that there is no reason for it. It would just further my anger and spin me head first into a violent fit of rage.

I have decided to just wait until the season comes.

There. I said it. Wait and see. Blache is a coach moving up from within so, that is pretty alright with me. I'm not so sure about Zorn but, I think we all knew that Al Saunders was probably gone after JG left.

Once we name a head coach, maybe things we be better.

Until then, I must hang on to a wait and see philosophy.

JGisLordOfTheRings 01-26-2008 04:44 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
Oh yeah. I liked that statement Counter-Tre, so it's now becoming my sig.

Congrats.

Longtimefan 01-26-2008 04:48 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
[QUOTE=GridIron26;413367]I don't like the choices either but, come on.. We can't really say anything because the season have not started yet.. What if Blache and Zorn became successful OC and DC? Then we would have wasted this time..

At least Snyder didn't go and looking around for high-priced coaches..[/QUOTE]


And everyone will be back on the wagon again. I'm not going to be critical until the situation warrants being critized from lack of productivity and success. Everyone deserves an opportunity to prove themselves. Joe Gibbs didn't become a HOF coach overnight, and he would not have met with the success he did had not Mr. Cooke maintained faith in him.

Counter-Tre 01-26-2008 05:00 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;413394]Oh yeah. I liked that statement Counter-Tre, so it's now becoming my sig.

Congrats.[/quote]
I am truly honored my friend.

WillH 01-26-2008 05:20 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
I was thinking...

Is it possible that one of the reasons they are waiting until after the SuperBowl is that they have a HC or Coordinator on another team (besides the Pats/Giants) lined up for the position, who might become available if said other team hires someone from the two superbowl teams?

sportscurmudgeon 01-26-2008 05:21 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
Greg Blache was not all that highly regarded in Chicago; there were few if any tears shed when he left town. Note how the Bears' defense improved as soon as Ron Rivera took over and how the Bears defense got them to a Super Bowl - - and then they fired Rivera and the team stunk again...


I'm about to say something nice about Danny Boy so be sure you are sitting down:


He is not even close to the worst owner in the NFL. Not by a mile. I give you three examples of owners who are far worse:

Bill Bidwell - - Arizona
John York - - SF
Al Davis - - -Oakland

Soup's Uncle 01-26-2008 05:24 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
This is what I thinkis going to happen...

Snyder will hire McDaniels as head coach...He'll be the primary play caller, while Zorn will be here to groom Jason Campbell...That's just what I think...

If that did happen, I'd be pretty happy.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 01-26-2008 05:30 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
Lazor just got the axe

[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/]Redskins Insider[/url]

WillH 01-26-2008 05:34 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
[quote=Soup's Uncle;413414]This is what I thinkis going to happen...

Snyder will hire McDaniels as head coach...He'll be the primary play caller, while Zorn will be here to groom Jason Campbell...That's just what I think...

If that did happen, I'd be pretty happy.[/quote]

Id be excited if that happened. McDaniels is a young guy, and his team is obviously successful with him calling the plays the last three years. I doubt he is the primary reason for their success, but it would be nice to bring in a young guy who might stick around for awhile. If he takes some time to adjust to the responsibilities of HC, however, how long will Snyder give him to develop. It might be worthless.

Edit: By that same token, there are other young options out there like Schwartz and Spagnoulo. Spagnuolo is a bit under experienced though. I like Schwartz alot as a HC candidate, but I could see where having a fairly successful former DC in Blanche, and an inexperienced OC in Zorn might make an offensive minded HC a bit more appealing.

wilsowilso 01-26-2008 05:36 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
[quote=Soup's Uncle;413414]This is what I thinkis going to happen...

Snyder will hire McDaniels as head coach...He'll be the primary play caller, while Zorn will be here to groom Jason Campbell...That's just what I think...

If that did happen, I'd be pretty happy.[/quote]

What is the deal with people wanting us to go after a young assistant who could get away with doing his job if his head was buried in a bucket of sand. McDaniels didn't create that offense and he certainly doesn't run it. He has proven nothing.

GTripp0012 01-26-2008 06:12 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
[quote=sportscurmudgeon;413413]Greg Blache was not all that highly regarded in Chicago; there were few if any tears shed when he left town. Note how the Bears' defense improved as soon as Ron Rivera took over and how the Bears defense got them to a Super Bowl - - and then they fired Rivera and the team stunk again...


I'm about to say something nice about Danny Boy so be sure you are sitting down:


He is not even close to the worst owner in the NFL. Not by a mile. I give you three examples of owners who are far worse:

Bill Bidwell - - Arizona
John York - - SF
Al Davis - - -Oakland[/quote]Living actually in Chicago when this was all going down, I'm going to have to overrule you here. Blache was the one coach on the staff that everyone around here thought deserved his position.

skinsfan69 01-26-2008 06:33 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
[quote=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;413415]Lazor just got the axe

[URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/"]Redskins Insider[/URL][/quote]

This is one area that I agree with.

skinsfan69 01-26-2008 06:35 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
[quote=wilsowilso;413421]What is the deal with people wanting us to go after a young assistant who could get away with doing his job if his head was buried in a bucket of sand. McDaniels didn't create that offense and he certainly doesn't run it. He has proven nothing.[/quote]

That's how the NFL works. If you call plays for a record setting offense then you're going to get some attention. But he's done a good job since Weiss left. Is he head coach material at 31 or 32? Hell no.

DieHardSkinsFan777 01-26-2008 07:28 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;413445]That's how the NFL works. If you call plays for a record setting offense then you're going to get some attention. But he's done a good job since Weiss left. Is he head coach material at 31 or 32? Hell no.[/QUOTE]

McDaniels has done an outstanding job in NE, even though I don't think he has any interest coming to DC. From all interviews that I've heard the young man speak he is staying put.....although I've heard that before and MONEY TALKS and we all know if thats the guy Dan wants he will spend WHATEVER it takes.

I could care less about his age just his qualifications.

SBXVII 01-26-2008 07:33 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
I hope they get rid of the WR coach. I have not seen the WR run any route that would shake a defender or get space from the defender. Hopefully they hire someone who knows what they are doing there.

skinsfan_nn 01-26-2008 11:02 PM

Re: Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 
[quote=SBXVII;413479]I hope they get rid of the WR coach. I have not seen the WR run any route that would shake a defender or get space from the defender. Hopefully they hire someone who knows what they are doing there.[/quote]

I'm not blaming the WR issues on Stan Hixon. We have had way to many injuries at the WR position to blame the coach. Lets not forget our #1 Moss #2 El were banged up most of the year, #3 Lloyd (COUGH) never showed up! Thats why they had to bring in Keenan, Reche & start using Thrash (who also ended up injured)

When the WR's were healthy they did a fine job of getting seperation and making really good catches down the stretch. I would like to see what this Mix kid brings to the table and see more Reche, and I'm certainly not apposed to bring in help if need be at the WR position.

But Stan Hixon is not the problem, I hope they retain him.


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