Re: Bernard Berrian
 

Fitzgerald is under contract though next season.

Re: Bernard Berrian
 

Ok, thought so. With that being said, i dont see fitzgerald wanting to go back to arizona after next season unless if they pull out some saints 06 miracle. I bet we could trade for fitzgerald if he doesnt accept their recent contract extension offer.. But again, it always takes 2 sides for a trade

Re: Bernard Berrian
 

me personally, I would rather keep who we have at WR giving Anthony Mix a shot at WR, and drafting a WR in the 2nd or 3rd round and use what ever cap space we have a signing a corner or LB. We have Lloyd, who I know people are down on, but given his success in the west coast at SF and the new regime things may be different with him. He would be on the field more consistantly instead of his one play every 10-15. Thrash should be back, Caldwell maybe. I just think we have some more pressing needs with the health of Carlos and Rocky up in the air. Defense is what wins championships, Giants most recently proven this. I think Moss and Randel El are a pretty decent tandem, and who knows what this Mix kid would bring. Big, Stong,and reasonably fast gives that big target the staff apparently desires. Plus you have cooley that lines up in the slot more in a west coast style. another thing to consider is Portis will be more in the field receiving more than he has been.

No doubt I think chad is great receiver, but overall i just dont see the need in giving him 50-60+million.

Re: Bernard Berrian
 

Berrian over CJ all day, I thought CJ was becoming out of the picture anyway. But i will gladly take briggs and berrian from the bears. I hope Rocky gets back to the way he was playing and remains the starter. He was really starting to impress me, bad break for the guy

Re: Bernard Berrian
 

Berrian has nowhere near the same amount of skills that CJ has. I think that if they were to go the berrian route that would be plain stupid. They should just draft a WR instead of Berrian. And even if we did get him he's not a #1 WR..

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And definately not an Elite one at that.

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I agree about giving Anthony Mix a shot. He's a big kid and was a monster on special teams. Also like the idea of drafting a receiver in the 2nd or 3rd round.

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I hope the Bengals hold on to Johnson we don't need his baggage....but keep an eye on Willliams and Fitzgerald. DS wants a big time receiver and Williams fits the bill and the Cardinals may bite at DS willingness to trade draft picks.

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I CANT MAKE THREADS so someone make it for me...Did anyone see on espn.com realigning the stars article...one of the stars mentioned is Antwann Randle El and possibly cutting/trading him to free up cap space and possibly with intention of doing so to bring in Chad Johnson.

I honeslty feel Randle El is overpaid. He was supposed to boost the return game but didnt do so, and he only has a hand full of touchdown catches in his tenure in washington. ANY THOUGHTS?

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I think BLloyd needs to start thinking about the CFL. Face the music people he was a dud in San Fran. All the bloggers told us so. The admitted that he caught a few good passes but not for what they thought they were getting. We kept saying oh we will make something of him. lol. Between injuries and not playing better then the younger WR we had he seemed to not make it or cut it. Time to cut our ties that bind us.

Don't say it was AL's system cause he couldn't make it in San Fran in the WC offense either.

Hopefully we will have Moss, Mix, Espy, Randel El, Cooley and if I'm correct Portis who will be if not running the ball catching it out of the back field.
Any additions should be a #1 type of possession WR.

I like Randel El but quickly got tired of his east/west running instead of his north south. He was pretty reliable in the short yardage downs and out routes.

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[quote=redskins159;422585]I CANT MAKE THREADS so someone make it for me...Did anyone see on espn.com realigning the stars article...one of the stars mentioned is Antwann Randle El and possibly cutting/trading him to free up cap space and possibly with intention of doing so to bring in Chad Johnson.

I honeslty feel Randle El is overpaid. He was supposed to boost the return game but didnt do so, and he only has a hand full of touchdown catches in his tenure in washington. ANY THOUGHTS?[/quote]

Already addressed in another thread. Cutting him would result in a $7M cap hit so that's really not feasible.

Re: Bernard Berrian
 

6'1 a buck 80 something. thats not tall at allll lol. But yea he's another santana

Re: Bernard Berrian
 

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;422379]I don't know why the Redskins aren't considering signing Bernard Berrian from Chicago, who is going to be an unrestricted free agent, instead of toying with the idea of signing Chad Johnson. Berrian is 6-1, 185 lbs, and had some good stats this past season: 71 Rec/951 Yds/5 TDs. Keep in mind that this guy had the Grossman/Griese/Orton trio of mediocre QBs throwing at him, and he still performed better than S.Moss (61 Rec/808 Yds/3 TDs) or even Randle El (51 Rec/728 Yds/1 TD).

Berrian would give the Skins the tall possession receiver they've been craving and they wouldn't have to give up any picks. I think that a WR tandem of Berrian, Moss, and Randle El, along with Chris Cooley, would give the Redskins a solid passing game. Plus we wouldn't deal with the baggage that Ocho Cinco brings, nor worrying about shelling out tons of $$$. I hope that now Gibbs is gone, DS doesn't go back to his old ways of giving up picks at the drop of a dime.[/QUOTE]


At 6'1" and 185lbs, that does not qualify one to be a possesion receiver. He will get bullied at the line. Remember Mushin Muhamed(sp) was the #1 and he was the #2.

So if we get him we may see him turn into what Peerless Price was after he left Buffalo behind Eric Moulds. Once he landed in ATL as a #1 he couldn't get open, get past the double teams that #1 receivers face, and he couldn't live up to his heft contract.

I say, no way Jose.

Re: Bernard Berrian
 

[quote=#56fanatic;422563]me personally, I would rather keep who we have at WR giving Anthony Mix a shot at WR, and drafting a WR in the 2nd or 3rd round and use what ever cap space we have a signing a corner or LB. We have Lloyd, who I know people are down on, but given his success in the west coast at SF and the new regime things may be different with him. He would be on the field more consistantly instead of his one play every 10-15. Thrash should be back, Caldwell maybe. I just think we have some more pressing needs with the health of Carlos and Rocky up in the air. Defense is what wins championships, Giants most recently proven this. I think Moss and Randel El are a pretty decent tandem, and who knows what this Mix kid would bring. Big, Stong,and reasonably fast gives that big target the staff apparently desires. Plus you have cooley that lines up in the slot more in a west coast style. another thing to consider is Portis will be more in the field receiving more than he has been.

No doubt I think chad is great receiver, but overall i just dont see the need in giving him 50-60+million.[/quote]

I agree with you 100%. It would be nice to get a big possession receiver but not if it means giving away draft picks and/or making the salary cap situation worse. Offensive line and defensive line, linebacker depth and secondary depth are bigger problems.

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This months Warpath [B]Buzz words[/B] are brought to you by Dan Snyder: The Redskins owner for the rest of your natural born life and then some (he has enough money to keep himself alive for at least a 1,000 years).

The buzz words are [B]veteran minimum[/B] and [B]Anthony Mix[/B].

[B]veteran minimum[/B] - A set amount of salary and a buzz word that makes Warpath members feel like smart GM's. The amount currently is valued at a little over $700k while counting only around $400k against the cap. Usually used to sign over the hill players that are looking to win a Super Bowl or play for a contender and no longer care about money due to the fact that they have made too much of it over the course of their career. Usually suggested when a former pro bowler over the age of 32 is released.

[B]Anthony Mix -[/B] The 2020nd best player in fantasy football last year. A player that some Warpath members feel is the next TO due to the fact that he is approximately the size of the average NBA 2 guard. Mix is famous for recovering a squib kick against Seatle during the playoffs, which led to a missed Shaun Shuisam field goal.

Re: Bernard Berrian
 

[quote=Mattyk72;422599]Already addressed in another thread. Cutting him would result in a $7M cap hit so that's really not feasible.[/quote]

OMG. Who the hell was responsible for paying a guy all that $ and he's never even caught 50 passes in one season? Pittsburgh must be laughing at us.

Re: Bernard Berrian
 

[quote=SBXVII;422590]I think BLloyd needs to start thinking about the CFL. Face the music people he was a dud in San Fran. All the bloggers told us so. The admitted that he caught a few good passes but not for what they thought they were getting. We kept saying oh we will make something of him. lol. Between injuries and not playing better then the younger WR we had he seemed to not make it or cut it. Time to cut our ties that bind us.

Don't say it was AL's system cause he couldn't make it in San Fran in the WC offense either.

Hopefully we will have Moss, Mix, Espy, Randel El, Cooley and if I'm correct Portis who will be if not running the ball catching it out of the back field.
Any additions should be a #1 type of possession WR.

I like Randel El but quickly got tired of his east/west running instead of his north south. He was pretty reliable in the short yardage downs and out routes.[/quote]

I would give Lloyd one more year. Like someone else mentioned we just have more pressing needs then to be going after more high priced WR's.

Re: Bernard Berrian
 

The Skins desperately need to score 21+ points per game. To accomplish that they need an a more dynamic explosive offense. Easily accomplished by adding a #1 flight receiver to take the double off of Moss. DS needs to keep the team in the press right up to the draft so I look for another big splash in a week or so. Chad Johnson or Roy Williams gives DS all of the press he could dream for. It's the big splash time of year.

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i think we should draft DE, OT or DB if we can pick up a WR for cheap why not we will weed them out in training camp '08 - '09 is our year HAIL TO THE SKINS

Re: Bernard Berrian
 

I'd rather Earnest Wilford out of Jacksonville...

Personally. Or address is in the 3rd round...

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[QUOTE=Skins4Life101;422850]I'd rather Earnest Wilford out of Jacksonville...

Personally. Or address is in the 3rd round...[/QUOTE]

Yeah, this guy can actually hang to a pass every once in a while. Don't get me wrong Berrian is an above average receiver but he is by no means what we need, he is more of a big play threat than anything else. Wilford on the other hand is huge and is more of a possession guy.

Re: Bernard Berrian
 

give Mix a chance 6 '5 damb! thats a big boy for a WR & JC knows him

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;422396]Landry was a hit or miss like all college players are R. Bush hasn't lived up to the hype he got. Calvin Johnson to me is medicore in the NFL. It's a big difference from college to pro. They can be the heisman trophy and not starter or get picked until the 5th round (Troy Smith) but he was so good it college. CJ has proven to be a pro bowl cailber player every year not one not two every year and Benard Berrian has not.[/quote]

landry was a lock. bush was viewed by some as the best WR in that class, and not nearly the best RB, since his speed advantage wouldn't be as great and lendale was the one breaking all the tackles, and way to judge CJ after one year. he'll be good in the NFL, and has a chance to be great, but it might not show till he's third year... thats pretty common at WR.

troy smith was a steal in the 5th, and he's better than the guy the ravens drafted in the 1st round by far.

I agree that CJ is WAY better than berrian though.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;422858]give Mix a chance 6 '5 damb! thats a big boy for a WR & JC knows him[/quote]

he'll get his chance, but being 6'5" doesn't make you good. there's a reason he hasn't seen the field yet.

Re: Bernard Berrian
 

he is a #2 wr at best noway

Re: Bernard Berrian
 

he'd improve our WR corps, but as the #2/#3... so unless it's a cheap deal it's not worth it... and you gotta figure the bears are perfectly capable of matching a cheap deal.