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sandtrapjack 02-26-2008 12:12 PM

Re: NFL.com Report: Dallas Cowboys Going After Randy Moss
 
[quote=#56fanatic;426145]in a year where Washington says they are not going to be big players in the FA pool, seems as though they may want to. Dallas is talking about Randy Moss, Stallworth, Javon Walker, they signed Zach Thomas. The G-men are trying to get Deangelo Hall to improve an all ready damn good defense, and now the Eagles are talking about making a run at Asante Samuel. Its early, but if these teams improve as much as they are rumored to be, we need to make some sort of move. I would be more inclined on making a move to bring a top notch corner vs a WR.[/quote]

It only makes sense that division rivals will be rumored to make moves to counter another divison opponents strengths.

When you have a QB in your division that racks up over 4000 yards and 23 TD's, or a WR that accumulates 15 TD's and 1400 yards, you need personnel and strategy to counter that. So the G-Men, and Eagles looking to bolster thier defensive backfield with the likes of Samuel or Hall to counter threats like Romo, Owens, Witten, S. Moss, Cooley etc only makes sense.

But this is the worst time of year for rumors. The last few days before free agency and more than tons of speculation. All unsubstantiated, but enough to cause a fervor.

Ruhskins 02-26-2008 12:29 PM

Re: NFL.com Report: Dallas Cowboys Going After Randy Moss
 
[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7837770?MSNHPHMA]FOX Sports on MSN - John Czarnecki - Talk isn't just about college stars at combine[/url]

Here's a link to the story regarding the Moss rumors. I've been saying it all along, New England doesn't pay their players. If they don't pay Tom Brady, who is the reason for their Superbowls, and they didn't pony up for Vinietari (sp?) another key component for their Superbowl wins, they are not going to pay for Moss. That is plain and simple. Now, we have a situation where a top team can become dominant. I mean, look at what the Patriots became last year...the team had a WR corps of Moss, Welker (a steal from Miami), and Stallworth. You know Jerry Jones is going go after Moss with a ton of money. I say hey, let's make a run at him and steal him from the Cowboys. We need a big time receiver, and in lieu of going after Chad Johnson, who would cost us several picks, let's go after Moss. We're the gurus of the salary cap, and we can work it out. Can you imagine a WR corps of Moss, Moss, and ARE, along with Cooley? With a more polished and cannon-for-an-arm Campbell throwing? I say why not.

cocoajoey 02-26-2008 12:42 PM

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This is a diaster waiting to happen to wide outs who want the ball all the time. The clock is ticking if they get moss!

skinsnut 02-26-2008 05:32 PM

Re: NFL.com Report: Dallas Cowboys Going After Randy Moss
 
You know Jerry Jones is going go after Moss with a ton of money. I say hey, let's make a run at him and steal him from the Cowboys. We need a big time receiver, and in lieu of going after Chad Johnson, who would cost us several picks, let's go after Moss. [/QUOTE]


We should only go after Moss if he would better our team not to supposedly damage the Cowboys.

It is arguable that a Moss signing will make their team worse in the locker room and with the cap and age.

Moss' agent is doing a great job of driving up his price...he needs to make up for lost revenue...this is the time to create a frenzy

steveo395 02-26-2008 05:43 PM

Re: NFL.com Report: Dallas Cowboys Going After Randy Moss
 
[quote=#56fanatic;426145]in a year where Washington says they are not going to be big players in the FA pool, seems as though they may want to. Dallas is talking about Randy Moss, Stallworth, Javon Walker, they signed Zach Thomas. The G-men are trying to get Deangelo Hall to improve an all ready damn good defense, and now the Eagles are talking about making a run at Asante Samuel. Its early, but if these teams improve as much as they are rumored to be, we need to make some sort of move. I would be more inclined on making a move to bring a top notch corner vs a WR.[/quote]
Haven't you learned by now that being a big player in free agency doesn't work. We need to build through the draft, especially since we're one of the oldest teams in the league with barely any cap room.

freddyg12 02-26-2008 06:00 PM

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fyi, sportscenter is going to have J. Clayton reporting on this. probably no more than what's already being speculated

Campbell17 02-26-2008 06:08 PM

Re: NFL.com Report: Dallas Cowboys Going After Randy Moss
 
Just remember, only one of them can have the ball at a time. Im not too worried either A) that it will happen of B) that they will be that much better.

Longtimefan 02-26-2008 06:09 PM

Re: NFL.com Report: Dallas Cowboys Going After Randy Moss
 
[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;426004]And I also bet that they will trade both their #1 picks and move up on the draft and get Darren McFadden.[/QUOTE]



That coupled with the acquisition of Moss would be JJ's idea of putting the "wow" into the offense.

GTripp0012 02-26-2008 06:17 PM

Re: NFL.com Report: Dallas Cowboys Going After Randy Moss
 
And then their safeties will be Roy Williams and Ken Hamlin, and they still won't be able to cover anybody.

If Dallas was going after Asante Samuel in the same way they are going after Randy Moss, they would actually improve their team.

SmootSmack 02-26-2008 06:31 PM

Re: NFL.com Report: Dallas Cowboys Going After Randy Moss
 
[QUOTE=GTripp0012;426342]And then their safeties will be Roy Williams and Ken Hamlin, and they still won't be able to cover anybody.

If Dallas was going after Asante Samuel in the same way they are going after Randy Moss, they would actually improve their team.[/QUOTE]

Kind of off-topic, there are actually a lot of rumors that Roy Williams might not be a Cowboy in 2008. I'd be surprised though

GTripp0012 02-26-2008 06:32 PM

Re: NFL.com Report: Dallas Cowboys Going After Randy Moss
 
[quote=SmootSmack;426353]Kind of off-topic, there are actually a lot of rumors that Roy Williams might not be a Cowboy in 2008. I'd be surprised though[/quote]I'd be shocked. Teams hate to part with their marketable athletes when they are winning.

If they have a disappointing year, I could see them releasing him prior to 2009, but I'd be shocked if he wasn't back next year.

TheSmurfs22 02-26-2008 07:43 PM

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If Moss goes to Dallas it will be extremely interesting to see how his ego and T.O's ego will coexist if they can at all.

Dirtbag59 02-26-2008 08:27 PM

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I feel like this is nothing more then a pipe dream. I think that Jerry Jones would be happier with a guy like Stallworth or Walker as his #2 guy.

Dirtyskin21 02-26-2008 09:21 PM

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I think if Dallas lets Roy Williams go, we should sign him to compete with doughty at the SS position cus he could bring a lot experience and he would probably HATE dallas for doing that to him..

Im not a fan of the guy either..

theJBexperience 02-26-2008 09:38 PM

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He still can't cover anybody, and for our scheme, it's important that the sfeties be able to cover the field.

Bonecrusher#31 02-26-2008 10:05 PM

Re: NFL.com Report: Dallas Cowboys Going After Randy Moss
 
[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;426169]It only makes sense that division rivals will be rumored to make moves to counter another divison opponents strengths.

When you have a QB in your division that racks up over 4000 yards and 23 TD's, or a WR that accumulates 15 TD's and 1400 yards, you need personnel and strategy to counter that. So the G-Men, and Eagles looking to bolster thier defensive backfield with the likes of Samuel or Hall to counter threats like Romo, Owens, Witten, S. Moss, Cooley etc only makes sense.

But this is the worst time of year for rumors. The last few days before free agency and more than tons of speculation. All unsubstantiated, but enough to cause a fervor.[/QUOTE]

Correction: A QB with 4000 yards and [B]36 TDs[/B]

Dirtyskin21 02-26-2008 10:31 PM

Re: NFL.com Report: Dallas Cowboys Going After Randy Moss
 
[QUOTE=theJBexperience;426434]He still can't cover anybody, and for our scheme, it's important that the sfeties be able to cover the field.[/QUOTE]

greg blaches will be running a similiar defense as GW but it wont be the exact same.. Like i said he could compete with Doughty and if he wins the position outright then great, but if not we can always rotate.

That Guy 02-27-2008 01:32 AM

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d hall is not the answer. he's like 5'8" and got blasted by TO last time they played. he can't outjump moss either, AND he's a turd that wants big money on top of it. NO!

the guy you need to cover TO and randy moss is sean taylor. even TO didn't like playing him, cause he knew he was going to get hit all day (After the whistle fists to the helmet, excessive shoving out of bounds, elbow into him when he's down, etc)... taylor was fast enough and could outjump them too, and TO never caught 4 TD against him in one game :(.

landry is actually MORE physically gifted (in terms of speed etc), and springs plays TO/Moss pretty well, but maybe a monster DE is the real answer.


all that said, i doubt moss goes anywhere besides NE.

dmek25 02-27-2008 06:40 AM

Re: NFL.com Report: Dallas Cowboys Going After Randy Moss
 
[quote=SmootSmack;426353]Kind of off-topic, there are actually a lot of rumors that Roy Williams might not be a Cowboy in 2008. I'd be surprised though[/quote]
my good friend, who knows somebody with the cowboys, says Flozell Adams is gone. unless he re structures. and this will be Roy Williams last in Dallas

SmootSmack 02-27-2008 08:23 AM

Re: NFL.com Report: Dallas Cowboys Going After Randy Moss
 
[QUOTE=dmek25;426559]my good friend, who knows somebody with the cowboys, says Flozell Adams is gone. unless he re structures. and this will be Roy Williams last in Dallas[/QUOTE]

I think Parcells really wants Flozell

freddyg12 02-27-2008 09:06 AM

Re: NFL.com Report: Dallas Cowboys Going After Randy Moss
 
[quote=dmek25;426559]my good friend, who knows somebody with the cowboys, says Flozell Adams is gone. unless he re structures. and this will be Roy Williams last in Dallas[/quote]

Flozell's a fa isn't he?

QBall 02-27-2008 09:09 AM

Re: NFL.com Report: Dallas Cowboys Going After Randy Moss
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;426079]Sounds like a great Madden lineup but realistically I'm not sure how Moss and TO would work out. I think the universe might explode by bringing those two together.[/QUOTE]

I would love to see those fights! Cowboys suck balls and all I can remember is Jerry Jones on the sidelines basically breathing down the coaches neck during the Giants game.

That guy is losing his shit!!

SmootSmack 02-28-2008 07:22 PM

Re: NFL.com Report: Dallas Cowboys Going After Randy Moss
 
[QUOTE=dmek25;426559]my good friend, who knows somebody with the cowboys, says Flozell Adams is gone. unless he re structures. and this will be Roy Williams last in Dallas[/QUOTE]

Your friend needs new sources:

[url=http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/022998dnspoflozell.7e04cef.html]Dallas Cowboys agree to six-year deal with Flozell Adams | Sports News | Dallas Morning News | News for Dallas, Texas[/url]

prinzeofmoval 02-28-2008 08:49 PM

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t.o. and moss? get your popcorn ready because its game over hands down.

bigm29 02-28-2008 09:05 PM

Re: NFL.com Report: Dallas Cowboys Going After Randy Moss
 
For you DHall lovers. First of all we can never afford him, and no trade bait to acquire him. second, he is punk... and three hes not even that good. TO rips him apart everytime they play, and last time i checked we play against him twice a year

Dirtyskin21 02-28-2008 09:09 PM

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^^when was anyone talking about Dhall dude?? hahah RANDOMMMMM

Ruhskins 02-28-2008 09:11 PM

Re: NFL.com Report: Dallas Cowboys Going After Randy Moss
 
[QUOTE=Dirtyskin21;427340]^^when was anyone talking about Dhall dude?? hahah RANDOMMMMM[/QUOTE]

Somebody brought him up on this thread (and mention we should trade for him).


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