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[quote=BDBohnzie;426765]I took Jeff George over Brandon Lloyd for the simple fact that because of George, Snyder drove a serviceable QB who has had success in the league out of town. Add to the fact that because of George's attitude towards Marty, [B]the Skins had to run the season with Tony Banks as their starter.[/B][/quote]

Oh god. Thats a name I never wanted to hear again. I used to love to play the old NFL Blitz game for PS2 and I hated the fact that Tony Banks was the Qb in that game. What ever happened to that guy?

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[QUOTE=Manusky91;426740]Micheal Barrow...Never saw the field in a Redskins uni.[/QUOTE]

Good call on that one

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I can't fault the Barrow move, he was an iron man before we picked him up. I'll chalk it up to shit luck.

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Sanders the only man in a Redskins uniform I have ever booed.

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[quote=Skinsfan1967;426777]Sanders the only man in a Redskins uniform I have ever booed.[/quote]

I know right. I never really understood why in the hell we signed him. That was when I started getting REALLY scared for us because I thought Danny Boy had lost it.

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[QUOTE=Skinsfan1967;426777]Sanders the only man in a Redskins uniform I have ever booed.[/QUOTE]

I remember how wierd it felt having Sanders on the team. Even when he would make a good play I felt like my enthusiasm was tempered when I saw that he was the one who made it. In the end I cheer anyone who wears the uniform, but it was very uncomfortable having to cheer for him.

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Jeff George by far. This guy ate the team from the inside out. He was such a dirt ball that Marty cut him after the first game. As for Time Out Tony he didn't join the team until the week before the season started, and had to learn the offense on the fly. I don't know why everyone is so down on Bruce Smith, he was old when we got him and still got production. He had 10 sacks in 2000, 5 in 2001, 9 in 2002, and 5 in 2003. Not many other Skins with those sack numbers since Smith retired.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;426773]I can't fault the Barrow move, he was an iron man before we picked him up. I'll chalk it up to shit luck.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm...another good point.

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[QUOTE=Redskins_P;426691]Jeff George by far. Imagine how good we would've been if we kept B.Johnson for a couple more years?[/QUOTE]
I agree,my pick would have been lloyd but jeff george was 2 bad moves in one by screwing us out of b johnson,brilliant move by snyder{sarcasm}

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I'm going with Jeff George at the Moment.
No only was he a coach killer, He was a team killer.

If we added 5 more years to the list, I would add James washington and Alvin Harper.

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I look at the worst acquisition as "could we have forseen the FUBAR coming". Lloyd has to be the worst using that criteria because we should've seen the train-wreck a mile away. If Wilbon was getting calls from collegues saying what a complete AH Lloyd was, then I'm sure Gibbs & the FO received the same calls. Not to mention Lloyd already had a rep for "making the spectacular catch but dropping easy ones". Gibbs or someone else in the FO should've overruled Saunders on Lloyd and said "No way!"

If you look at the others; Stubby & Deion had good past production and the hope was they had a little gas left in the tank. George was coming off a great 1999 season, we needed a back-up QB and I believe for the most part in 1999 George was a "team player" for MINN. Duckett had success as a bruising Goal-line back for ATL and Portis had just gotten hurt. Arch had success as a hard-hitting SS, he just couldn't play coverage and GW tried to fit "a round peg is a square hole" by putting him in the Cover-2.

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I am astonished that BL isn't running away. WE GAVE UP DRAFT PICKS FOR HIM. End of conversation.

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[QUOTE=FRPLG;426834]I am astonished that BL isn't running away. WE GAVE UP DRAFT PICKS FOR HIM. End of conversation.[/QUOTE]

Deion Sanders. EX-COWBOY. Not that all ex-Cowboys are bad (Calvin Hill, for example), but Deion, aside from Michael Irvin, may have been the most hated Cowboy. Then we sign him? I couldn't pull myself to root for him and he rarely gave us a reason to.

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[QUOTE=Slingin Sammy 33;426820]I look at the worst acquisition as "could we have forseen the FUBAR coming". Lloyd has to be the worst using that criteria because we should've seen the train-wreck a mile away. [/QUOTE]

Thats why I voted for George. he was known as a coach killer. That's about the only thing he's ever done well.

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[QUOTE=Warren85Ellard;426838]Deion Sanders. EX-COWBOY. Not that all ex-Cowboys are bad (Calvin Hill, for example), but Deion, aside from Michael Irvin, may have been the most hated Cowboy. Then we sign him? I couldn't pull myself to root for him and he rarely gave us a reason to.[/QUOTE]

I hear ya. I cannot stand Deion. I was very mad when he signed with the Skins. On the first day of the 2000 training camp, when Deion ran out onto the field, I was in attendance and I booed him.

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sanders is clearly#1.heath shuler,jeff george,and alvin harper ai'nt far behind.

Re: Who was the worst acquisition of the last 10 years?
 

[QUOTE=Warren85Ellard;426838]Deion Sanders. EX-COWBOY. Not that all ex-Cowboys are bad (Calvin Hill, for example), but Deion, aside from Michael Irvin, may have been the most hated Cowboy. Then we sign him? I couldn't pull myself to root for him and he rarely gave us a reason to.[/QUOTE]

That's an emotional argument and I think most of us are looking for more substanital reasons other than "I didn't like him" for whatever reason.

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Archuletta was overpayed and had a terrible season last year. Too bad he wasn't guarding Lloyd... :D

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I gotta go with Jeff George cuz that forced out extremely reliable Brad Johnson right after he'd taken the team to the playoffs.

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Great question.
so much hate...tough to quantify.
I mean drafts picks vs cash? Actually playing and hurting the team (arch) v never playing and costing picks (TJ)...I'm overwhelmed.

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What about Jaime Asher? I wouldn't say he was the WORST but then again I was only like 11-14 when he played for us and I wasn't really paying too much attention to football in detail back then.

Anyone older know how he was as a player? And Whatever happened to that dude? I checked Wikipedia and they barely have a stub on him. Looks like he dropped off the face of the Earth.

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Oh here's another one for you.

Jesse Armstead.

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Lloyd. It would have been Duckett if we had given him a new deal like we did to Lloyd, but Lloyd's contract was every bit as bad as his acquisition.

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arch is bad but I feel that the middle linebacker Mike Barrow was the worst... did he ever play a down for us?

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I had to vote for arch. that dude is abysmal.

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It has to be Jeff George. Hell the year Brad Johnson left he made the SB and won!!

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I cant believe that so few people think that the Duckett trade was not the worst. I guess it is because Lloyd was an ass, and cost us a butt load of cap space. Duckett took the same amount of picks and we only had him one season. He had like ten yards and five carries. Worthless and we are still paying for him, at least Lloyd caught enough balls to be consider a decent 4th WO and an awsome 5th WO.

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I say Duckett purley because we gave up a 3rd round pick for a guy we pretty much knew wouldnt be anymore than a 3rd down back......but he did at least make some plays for us...

I mean...they're all bad lol

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[quote=Gmanc711;426881]I say Duckett purley because we gave up a 3rd round pick for a guy we pretty much knew wouldnt be anymore than a 3rd down back......but he did at least make some plays for us...

I mean...they're all bad lol[/quote]
We gave a third and a forth.

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[quote=canthetuna;426870]I had to vote for arch. that dude is abysmal.[/quote]

arch was really bad if you consider that we let clark (a solid player and ST's best friend on the team) go in favor of him...

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[quote=T.O.Killa;426883]We gave a third and a forth.[/quote]

yep, and thats why I say it was the worst.

I mean, horrible, horrible trade

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This may complicate the question, but which was the worst move going in AND coming out? Spurrier was obviously a disaster, but who didn’t like the move at the time? I know that can be said for every one on the list, but for me the guy who was exactly as advertised was Jeff George. Sometimes great (2000 vs. St. Louis), sometime awful (2001 season) but his reputation as a clubhouse cancer was well known going in and he didn’t disappoint!

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the list is long and distinguished....

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;426710]I gotta go with Duckett. We didn't really need him, but what's worse is that we didn't use him when we got him anyway. I don't really know what happened there. He wasn't a malcontent or anything like that. For whatever reason it just didn't work out.

If I were to add an "other" I might have to go with David Patten.[/QUOTE]

Wholeheartly agreed with this. I mean at least Archuleta and Lloyd played...Duckett did nothing!

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[quote=Ruhskins;426899]Wholeheartly agreed with this. I mean at least Archuleta and Lloyd played...Duckett did nothing![/quote]

Hey, Duckett played 10 games in 06.

He attempted 38 rushes for 132yds and 2TDs.

I still think he was much more productive than Lloyd.

[I]But... If only we had given Duckett a chance!! (sarcasm)[/I]

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;426903]Hey, Duckett played 10 games in 06.

He attempted 38 rushes for 132yds and 2TDs.

I still think he was much more productive than Lloyd.

[I]But... If only we had given Duckett a chance!! (sarcasm)[/I][/QUOTE]

He had 2 TDs? Wow, I had no idea.

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[quote=Rajmahal33;426739]Kijana Carter has got to be up there...

And i'm gonna go ahead and throw this one out at the risk of being unpopular...John Hall. I have never seen a kicker been so coddled and at the same time so injured, while also being overcompensated and contributing under expectations.[/quote]

A cheap player brought in on the ubiquitous "vet min" contract who actually had his best year as a pro as a Redskin? Huh? That and the Bruce Smith comments threw me for a loop. Come on, it's Jeff George IMO for many of the reasons stated by others (undermining Brad Johnson, destroying team chemistry, providing some of the very worst QBing in NFL history during the 2001 0-5 start). Then Lloyd because of the cost and picks, then Duckett for the picks and non-playing (I thought that move made sense at the time and bet if I went back and looked a bunch of other people did too, but the guy never got the ball).

For fun, here is some contemporary commentary on the players in question:

[U][B]TJ Duckett:[/B][/U]
Poll Question on the trade: "Love it" 40; "Like it" 42; "On the Fence" 29; "Hate it" 9.

"Sounds like a good trade. We finally have a Gerald Riggs type RB J.Gibbs loves again!"

"Hmm. I'm not sure I like this one. He won't be playing more than Portis when healthy, and I'm of the opinion that Betts is the better back. It's kinda screwing him." (so true...kudos)

"SUPERBOWL OR BUST!!! ALL YOU LAME DOUBTERS WILL NOW REALIZE WE ARE NOT SATISFIED WITH MEDIOCRE... SNYDER/ GIBBS WILL DO WHAT IT TAKES TO BRING THE LOMBARDI TO WASHINGTON, AND NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE!

As for those who think Duckett is not worth a third ATL has had the best running game overall the past to 2 seasons and with AL Saunders as our Head Coach Offense noone will be able to stop this offense when the season comes around!!!!" (whoa, love the enthusiasm)

[U][B]Brandon Lloyd:

[/B][/U]"Well he is certainly worth a 2nd rounder. The chances of finding a WR like LLoyd in the 2nd is low so he is worth it. The question is whether we have a more pressing need with that 2nd pick. I'd say no. We only need to replace Arrington on defense but we absolutly need a 2nd WR. If the package isn't much more than a 2nd then I am all for it as long as someon can atest that Lloyd isn't going to be an issue in terms of attitude."

"Lloyd was tied for 15th in the NFC in targets last season with 109
Santana was 9th with 134

Santana caught 84 of those passes.
Lloyd caught 48. He finished sixth in the NFC in "passes not caught"." (excellent stat, how come that didn't turn up red flags at the Park?)

"Since Gibbs came back the Skins have been almost dead-on with their free agent/trade acquisitons. Griffin, Springs, Washington, Portis, Brunell, Rabach, Moss, just to name the major ones.

Sit back and relax, we're in good hands."

[U][B]Adam Archuleta:

[/B][/U]"This is one that Williams really wanted--props to Gibbs to spread the love to the D as well. I take it Arch is a different sort from Clarke--more the "big hitter" that Bowen was supposed to be. If Mr. Williams wants him, that's good enough for me, though I always liked Clarkes attitude. He seems like a genuine nice guy." (Ryan Clark, just one of the 'True Redskins' to be unceremoniously shown the door).

"He's 28 and ready for prime time"

" I think arch is overpaid :/ and the money would be used better elsewhere.

if he has 10 sacks this year i reserve my right to waffle and/or flip-flop." (no need for that)

Unfortunately the Warpath is too young to remember the starry eyed days when Deion, George, and Smith (let alone Stubby) were brought on board.

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Gotta be Lloyd. He represents the perfect storm of evaluation/performance blunders:
--Wasted two draft picks
--Tore up his salary and paid him up front like he was an all pro
--Apparently was not the greatest in the locker room
--Did not perform on the field
--Got injured in practice to end his career here
--Is a deadcap hit of 5.5mil in 2009

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Well, my first pick would be Heath Shuler, but he was slightly beyond 10 years ago.

Dana Stubblefield was my pick, and the reasoning behind it is the massive amount we paid for him with the massive amount of hype he had.
I'd say Arch but we were able to get out from under that contract, and I feel it was more a problem of our system than it was that he sucked.
Brandon Lloyd get's a very honorable mention...it was really hard to choose between these three.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;426865]What about Jaime Asher? I wouldn't say he was the WORST but then again I was only like 11-14 when he played for us and I wasn't really paying too much attention to football in detail back then.

Anyone older know how he was as a player? And Whatever happened to that dude? I checked Wikipedia and they barely have a stub on him. Looks like he dropped off the face of the Earth.[/quote]

Asher wasn't that bad. He was decent on some middling Norv Turner teams and actually was a Pro Bowl alternate in 96 I think.

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