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[QUOTE=firstdown;428971]Brett played for some really great Packer teams and he only won 1 SB and that been his down fall of his entire career. Other than that he has been a great QB but SB's are why you play the game. Now we have him and Marino two of the best to ever play the game and only 1 SB between the two of them.[/QUOTE]
I get what you are saying to a point. If you ask me he falls in with the Elway argument. Favre did QB some of the all-time great GB teams, no doubt, but to say that one of his down falls is that he only came away with 1 SB is not fair to Favre. Look at his WR's over that time. After the WR's left Favre they did NOTHING. I mean what did Freeman do when he went to the Eagles? And the samething can be said about the RB's for those teams, once they left the strong arm of Favre what did they do that was productive? NOTHING. What I am getting at is a Hall of Fame player is not only good, but they make others around them shine and that is what Elway, Marino, and Favre did...

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Favre is a one of the great Qb's of all time, he did the Pack well. They had a really nice run this season and came up just a little short, in their final game at home against NY he was looking a little tired. And I certainly had a feeling the GB leaked web page, wasn't a accident at all (just went out to early).

The man can leave this game with his head held up high. Did get to see him in action in DC one time unfortunately we came up short, but he was fun to watch play the game.

His Hall of Fame career will not be forgotten. Enjoy the rest of your life Brett!

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Who I really feel for is Frank Caliendo. He hasn't had to write a joke for the past five years, and now he's got to work for a living.

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[quote=Mattyk72;428969]I doubt Favre will play any games like that. If he says he's done I believe him.[/quote]

I agree. For the last couple of year he's been on the fence about retirement in the offseason, but never actually said he was done until now. I doubt it had too much to do with Randy Moss. Greg Jennings has emerged as a real weapon, plus Driver still plays at a very high level and that James Jones kid is nice too. Favre had a great season numbers-wise, and they went 13-3. Randy Moss is great and all, but I find it hard to believe that he was the deciding factor for Brett.

I'm bummed out. Next to Cal Ripken, Favre was my favorite pro athlete of all time. I'm sad to see him go.

I bet John Madden is on suicide watch.:)

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;428970]What makes you think any of this? :doh:[/quote]

LOL some people love drama.

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[QUOTE=prinzeofmoval;428977][B]come on its as plan as day..he announces retirement a day after moss signs with patriots.[/B] I believe Farve is an emotional guy who isn't really thinking clearly right now and if i was him i'd be upset too. I would want any help i can get to secure my legacy and win. The packers did good last season but they played well over their head and i believe he knew that,which is the reason he pressed for Moss. Like Smoot also mentioned its fun to play on Sundays but what about Monday thru Saturday? Maybe that played a small part,maybe not being with his family. But at the end of the day Brett is a winner. If he feels he doesn't have the best chance then he won't fool himself.[/QUOTE]

I think your tin foil helmet's a little tight.

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Thanks for the memories Farve.

With that said thanks for making winning the NFC next year a little less difficult.

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[QUOTE=BleedBurgundy;429016]I think your tin foil helmet's a little tight.[/QUOTE]

Actually it's not at all for him.
There has been several comments on ESPN about it, and even Mortenson said it's not likely the major reason he's retiring, but it is a reason. Favre knew he wasn't going to get anyone in FA to help, and he likely wanted to "stack the deck" to make a run, but the packers weren't willing to do that.

I am going to miss that guy, I loved the way he played, and loved to watch him every week. He was a giant kid on the field and the toughest qb of all time bar none. It's a dark day for football today people.

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The Packers should be on the phone with Mark Brunell's agent right now. He'd be a good backup/mentor for Rodgers. Plus it'd be kind of cool for him to go full circle and finish things back where he started.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;429057]The Packers should be on the phone with Mark Brunell's agent right now. He'd be a good backup/mentor for Rodgers. Plus it'd be kind of cool for him to go full circle and finish things back where he started.[/QUOTE]

That's really not a bad idea. I am unsure of why Brunell hasn't retired at this point, but maybe going to a team like the Packers would keep him around 1 or 2 more years.

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thanks brett you played the game the way it should be played..thanks for bringing the passion every sunday.....

thanks brett for the memories....

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I bet this is how a many of Giant fans are thanking Brett today:

Thanks Brett for throwing one more of the many int's you are so well known for and giving us the trip to the SB and thus the SB. Thanks man we will never forget that last bad decision you made and can remember as your last throw as an NFL QB. We will cherish that moment everytime we think of you.

Oh I forgot another reason that the Giants should thank Brett.

Thanks Brett for falling down when Strahan set the sack record and not throwing the ball away like most QB's would have done.

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[quote=firstdown;429140]I bet this is how a many of Giant fans are thanking Brett today:

Thanks Brett for throwing one more of the many int's you are so well known for and giving us the trip to the SB and thus the SB. Thanks man we will never forget that last bad decision you made and can remember as your last throw as an NFL QB. We will cherish that moment everytime we think of you.

Oh I forgot another reason that the Giants should thank Brett.

Thanks Brett for falling down when Strahan set the sack record and not throwing the ball away like most QB's would have done.[/quote]


Who pissed in your Cheerio's today?:hater:

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[quote=Giantone;429148]Who pissed in your Cheerio's today?:hater:[/quote]
No one. Some one has to be the bad guy and point out the stuff he has done wrong. Its not all good.[IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/icons/icon7.gif[/IMG]

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[QUOTE=birdz4gibbs;429063]thanks brett you played the game the way it should be played..thanks for bringing the passion every sunday.....

thanks brett for the memories....[/QUOTE]


Stay tuned people.....There may be more to the Bret Favre saga than meets the eye. It could be that he's not finished just yet.

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I've watched Favre my whole life and it's been fun. I hope he can finally spend some quality time with his kids and wife.... I don't even know football without Favre but I'll keep cheering on them Packers :(

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[quote=sancho2613;429168]I've watched Favre my whole life and it's been fun. I hope he can finally spend some quality time with his kids and wife.... I don't even know football without Favre but I'll keep cheering on them Packers :([/quote]
Just a made up question:

Would you still feel the same about Farve if some how he came back and played for another team next year or would you feel he stabbed the team in the back?

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[QUOTE=firstdown;429157]No one. Some one has to be the bad guy and point out the stuff he has done wrong. Its not all good.[IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/icons/icon7.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]

That Strahan sack was horrible. I still can't believe a stand up guy like Brett would tarnish a hallowed record like that.
Oh well, everyone skrews up, he's still the best.

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[QUOTE=BleedBurgundy;429016]I think your tin foil helmet's a little tight.[/QUOTE]

okay Madden you think he left because? He only lobby for Moss last week and now that he signed with NE he retired the next day. Why we he ask for Moss one week and retire the next when he didn't get him?

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He's been talking about retiring for years now, it's not like this is out of the blue. As far as I know the Packers were never in any sort of serious discussions with Randy Moss, so it's not like Favre thought they had a chance of getting him and he was just hanging on until a decision was made.

Why does there always have to be some some of underlying story with some people??

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[quote=Mattyk72;429381]He's been talking about retiring for years now, it's not like this is out of the blue. As far as I know the Packers were never in any sort of serious discussions with Randy Moss, so it's not like Favre thought they had a chance of getting him and he was just hanging on until a decision was made.

Why does there always have to be some some of underlying story with some people??[/quote]
Well it sounds from Brett's sources that he was ticked that GB did not make any moves in FA to help the team so he decided to retire. It also sounds like Brett left them a mesage that he was retiring and if you noticed he was not present when his retirement was announced like in most cases when a big star retires from the NFL.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;429381]He's been talking about retiring for years now, it's not like this is out of the blue. As far as I know the Packers were never in any sort of serious discussions with Randy Moss, so it's not like Favre thought they had a chance of getting him and he was just hanging on until a decision was made.

Why does there always have to be some some of underlying story with some people??[/QUOTE]

Well, it's not like this has not being reported all over the place. Several news sources made that comment about the correlation between Moss signing and Favre retiring.
ESPN reported that the Eagles and Packers were "involved" in signing Moss, but the Packers were not as vocal as the Eagles were. In the end, Moss took a deal worth less than what the Packers offered although no numbers were ever released. So it's not a stretch for people to think Favre left due to inactivity in the FA market. He almost retired last year for that exact reason.
I personally feel that it was indeed a part of his decision, albeit small part. Over the years, they never took his opinion to heart and they weren't really players in the FA market like he wished. He wanted the team to stack the deck, and they didn't. Quite frankly, you can't blame the team for that either. They have good WR's, and most of them are very young. In the end, you can't tell me he still would have retired had Moss been signed, that could have rejuvenated him, but the wear and tear and mental exhaustion was just too much to return with the exact same team. Sure not getting Moss was a part or his decision, but it wasn't like he was pissed at the team and said since you didn't get Moss, I'm outta here like some suggest. He was just done.

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[QUOTE=prinzeofmoval;429316]okay Madden you think he left because? He only lobby for Moss last week and now that he signed with NE he retired the next day. Why we he ask for Moss one week and retire the next when he didn't get him?[/QUOTE]

I think he left because he played for 17 years and had the chance to go out on a winning season, having gotten his team to the NFC Championship game. Like Matty said, his retirement has been an issue for what, 3 years now? I sincerely doubt that anyone with half a brain in their head makes the decision to end their hall of fame career based upon the location of one Randy Moss. As many have already said, the packers are already much better than average in the receiver dept. This is just fodder for sports talk and columnists who don't have anything of substance to report.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;429470]I think he left because he played for 17 years and had the chance to go out on a winning season, having gotten his team to the NFC Championship game. Like Matty said, his retirement has been an issue for what, 3 years now? I sincerely doubt that anyone with half a brain in their head makes the decision to end their hall of fame career based upon the location of one Randy Moss. As many have already said, the packers are already much better than average in the receiver dept. This is just fodder for sports talk and columnists who don't have anything of substance to report.[/quote]

I agree.

When you look at his career, what else did he have to prove? I think in his mind he proved all of his doubters of the last 2-3 years wrong, he got his team to the NFC Championship, he had one hell of a season, and he's just mentally spent. All of the conspiracy theories are fun to talk about, but in the end the most logical reasons for his decision makes the most sense.

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[quote=firstdown;429176]Just a made up question:

Would you still feel the same about Farve if some how he came back and played for another team next year or would you feel he stabbed the team in the back?[/quote]

I can't speak for all the Packer fans but FOR ME well first of all I can't even picture him in a different uniform (except the Falcons of course) but anyways if he did go to another team I would deffinately feel the same way. It couldn't take anything away from all those other moments I had watching him while I was growing up but honestly since the first day I watched football I was a little more of a "Favre fan" than a "Packer fan". I love the Packers now and all but the way he played is really the reason I loved watching the Packers since i was 9 years old. I dont think he would be stabbing the team in the back excatly and I would keep watching him but I really really doubt he'd come back for another team so hopefully i don't have to see it lol.

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Favre addresses whether or not Moss played a role in his decision:

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/peter_king/03/04/favre.king/index.html]SI.com - Writers - Peter King: Strain of being an icon won out over love of the game - Tuesday March 4, 2008 9:41PM[/url]

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[QUOTE=firstdown;429398]Well it sounds from Brett's sources that he was ticked that GB did not make any moves in FA to help the team so he decided to retire. It also sounds like Brett left them a mesage that he was retiring and if you noticed he was not present when his retirement was announced like in most cases when a big star retires from the NFL.[/QUOTE]

He's having a press conference tomorrow at 12p

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;429057]The Packers should be on the phone with Mark Brunell's agent right now. He'd be a good backup/mentor for Rodgers. Plus it'd be kind of cool for him to go full circle and finish things back where he started.[/QUOTE]

Well...here it is

[url=http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080305/PKR01/80305167/1989]PackersNews.com - Packers weigh experience, potential in free agent QB market[/url]

[QUOTE]The Packers this week talked to Brunell’s agent, Bruce Tollner, and expressed at least some interest in a player the Packers brought into the NFL in the fifth round of the 1993 draft. Brunell has 150 starts in his career with Jacksonville and Washington, including nine starts as recently as 2006. But his skills have diminished to where he’s strictly a backup after spending last season as the Redskins’ No. 3 quarterback. They voided his contract in February to get under the 2008 salary cap.

Tollner said Brunell wants to play this year and has three other teams that have called and, like the Packers, are sorting out their priorities for their backup spots.

“The ideal role (for Brunell) is to mentor or be there supporting the No. 1 guy and having the ability to step in and win games,” Tollner said. “That fits with a few different teams right now that I’m communicating with, and I think it makes a lot of sense at (the Packers).”[/QUOTE]

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Ok want to hear a crazier theory. Our boy Bram said that he(and Larry :doh:) said there is something fishy going on because farve wasnt at the press conference with the Pack. They said it is ridiculous for a big name hof player like farve not to be with the team. Something sour along the lines of not getting Moss, not paying him(farve) enough, or even the front office wanted to get rid of farve to move on but they dont want the PR nightmare so they made him feel unwanted therefore forcing him to retire...lol

how's that for reporters with a lot of free time.