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Jason Taylor aint going anywhere.
We just gotta deal with it....we have the Dline we will start the season with.

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Now that the draft is over, can we trade for him now. Maybe a late round pick and a player that we alrteady plan on cutting? Maybe a 5th and (insert your least favorite player here).

I think it would be good move until we can get a DE opposite Carter. What do u guys think?

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They're not going to GIVE him away. We'd have to come up with something of significant value. It's not like Parcells sits there drooling on himself petting mice until he breaks their necks.

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[QUOTE=SkinsFanSince91;445768]Now that the draft is over, can we trade for him now. Maybe a late round pick and a player that we alrteady plan on cutting? Maybe a 5th and (insert your least favorite player here).

I think it would be good move until we can get a DE opposite Carter. What do u guys think?[/QUOTE]

Like I said, a 4th rounder and throw in Todd Wade if necessary (he's familiar with the Phins)

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[QUOTE=BleedBurgundy;445769]They're not going to GIVE him away. We'd have to come up with something of significant value. It's not like Parcells sits there drooling on himself petting mice until he breaks their necks.[/QUOTE]

Nice of mice and men reference. We should dish out ARE and a mid-round 2009 pick.

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Just saw that the Tuna won't even talk to him now. I guess he's pissed about Taylor dancing with the stars instead of working out with the team.
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3373679]ESPN - Report: Visit to Dolphins' HQ widens Taylor-Parcells rift - NFL[/url]

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[quote=Riggo44;445805]Just saw that the Tuna won't even talk to him now. I guess he's pissed about Taylor dancing with the stars instead of working out with the team.
[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3373679"]ESPN - Report: Visit to Dolphins' HQ widens Taylor-Parcells rift - NFL[/URL][/quote]

Yeah, they've been talking this up on all the Sports Radio here. Parcells is acting like a little baby. When was Taylor supposed to have cleared his commitment to Dancing with the Stars with the Tuna? When Bill was still a talking head on ESPN? It's just stupid. Jason Taylor has been Miami's best player for years, and now, Parcells has turned the town against him and won't even talk to him. Wow, I'd really like to go play for a guy like that.

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how about a straight up trade for taylor involving a current player?maybe carlos rogers or smoot???

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I guess I could live with offering a second rounder next year, but that is probably too much to give up in the current market. They will never get a first rounder for him so maybe we should at least offer a third.

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso;445896]I guess I could live with offering a second rounder next year, but that is probably too much to give up in the current market. They will never get a first rounder for him so maybe we should at least offer a third.[/QUOTE]

He is pretty old, and I know he is still productive, but you never know when his gas runs out.

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I say we offer nothing an not be interested in a 34 year old who has already hit his prime, especially since most people in this thread called for us to draft a DE because ours are too old...

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Taylor was Defensive player of the year 2 seasons ago. He is 34 but could be a great addition to our D-line. If you have questions about how much more he has in the tank and what kind of impact he would have for us next year look no further then Strahan's impact on the G-Men last year... Without the aging Stahan the Giants do not win the Super Bowl. This is not a player who has had injury problems and hes a great locker room guy. If we can get him for a 2nd then we need to pull the trigger yesterday. Taylor has not won a ring and getting a character guy who can still play 2-3 years is a no brainer. The Giants are proof that there are a lot of teams who can make a run at the bowl and we are in that group next year... a key move like this could put us over the hump

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He'll turn 34 Week 1 next season. So technically he's 33 right now.

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[quote=redskinsfanatic;445877]how about a straight up trade for taylor involving a current player?maybe carlos rogers or smoot???[/quote]

And who would take over either Smoot or Carlos' role when we ship him off to Dolphins? Jason Taylor is not worth any of our players except for maybe Phillip Daniels? It would be like if we had same player due to age?

I highly doubt Redskins would go for him even though it may look good to have him but it won't be good for us in two or three years later.. This is a waste of our time..

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We should have signed Kearse or Antwan Odom.

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He's had at least 10 sacks the last 3 years, the only thing Daniels and he have in common is they are getting up there in age. If we traded for Taylor, Daniels would be a rotational player at DE and DT on passing downs. I Think thats where he could excel this season allowing him to pace himself for hopefully a playoff run he's no spring chicken and has shown a history of getting nicked. Taylor on the other hand has not.... he has been extremely durable and only missed a few games in his career.

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I think it would be a great pick up for a 3rd round pick. Maybe even a 2nd round pick if we could get a later round pick in return. The only super glarring weekness on our team right now is a pass rushing end to play opposite of Carter. He is a bit old but probably has 2 good years left and would be the best player on our d-line. Plus I believe he is from Waldorf so he probably wouldnt mind coming home to end his career with a playoff team! I think he is the missing piece to a deep playoff run by the skins. Then all we would need is another veteran backup LB just in case Rocky doesnt fully come back or Marcus gets hurt again..... maybe Roosevelt Colvin??? Then next year add another O-lineman and draft all defensive players next year for our aging D!!

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I initially did not want any part of this guy pre-draft due to age....however, the draft did not result in a DE for us...even for depth.

It is pretty clear to me that when the Skins drafted their first 3 picks that they either thought...
They could survive with the Dline without changes (I dont agree)
They could somehow get a free agent DE (unlikely, except for sloppy depth)
They could get decent talent with some sort of trade.

The only trade bait we have now is one of our wideouts or future picks.
No way should we trade a young player for an old one....and I think Vinny agrees.
So that leaves draft picks.

Yes, Taylor is worth a 3rd....to the Skins, maybe more because even if we draft a killer DE next year, we still need a solid starter that year.

He is definately not worth a first....a second is probably too much unless they give us something...such as a 4th or a player...like a backup LB....(we are short on those)

I like Taylor...imagine Taylor and Carter, with Daniels at DT on 3rd and long.
Daniels has bulked up off season so he can play DT.

By the way....why do you think the Skins made cap space?
Yes...to try to get a WR.....but I'm sure more aquisition options were on the table besides Chad Johnson....and everyone knows...the top need on defense for the Skins is another pass rushing end.

I say....give the fins a 3rd and get his butt up here fast!
I would love it!

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[quote=DGreene28;448485]Taylor was Defensive player of the year 2 seasons ago. He is 34 but could be a great addition to our D-line. If you have questions about how much more he has in the tank and what kind of impact he would have for us next year look no further then Strahan's impact on the G-Men last year... Without the aging Stahan the Giants do not win the Super Bowl. This is not a player who has had injury problems and hes a great locker room guy. If we can get him for a 2nd then we need to pull the trigger yesterday. Taylor has not won a ring and getting a character guy who can still play 2-3 years is a no brainer. The Giants are proof that there are a lot of teams who can make a run at the bowl and we are in that group next year... a key move like this could put us over the hump[/quote]

Let Miami release him and then we'll pick him up. They probably don't want to pay is 8 mil salary so play the waiting game. Giving up a high draft pick for Taylor is simply insane.

I'm not so sure about Taylor putting us over the hump either. We don't have a wr like Plax B. that can take over a game. Plus the Giants have 3 or 4 guys that can get after the passer. Right now we barely have one.

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If the Skins could trade Smoot for Taylor straight up, they should jump on that in a heart beat.

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No way. We need the CB depth more, plus Smoot played very well last season and brings a lot of energy and leadership to the team, he's one of thh core guys.

Plus, Taylor is getting older. We know Smoot fits in, we don't know about Taylor.

Not a deal we should do. Especially since Taylor's salary will be MUCH higher than Smoot's and the injury risk and lack of production is more likely to come from Taylor than Smoot.

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I've changed my tune a bit, I wouldn't hate it if we got Taylor at the right price, as in a later round pick but I doubt the Dolphins would go for anything less than a 2nd at the worst. Even at 33 he's shown no sign of slowing down and he keeps himself in great condition. He could probably continue to play at a high level for 2-3 more seasons.

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Let's be honest, at best the guy has 1-2 stellar seasons left in the tank. Moreover, his cap figure is more than significant. You don't pay for the past, you pay for the future. He's not worth anything more than a 3rd-4th rounder IMO. I'd be fine with giving up a 4th for him and somewhat troubled if we gave up a 3rd for him. Remember, we got Dockery and Cooley in the 3rd round.

I'm amazed that the Dolphins were asking for a first rounder. That's pretty insane IMO. Anyone who gives up a 1st or 2nd rounder for him is crazy.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;448603]Let's be honest, at best the guy has 1-2 stellar seasons left in the tank. Moreover, his cap figure is more than significant. You don't pay for the past, you pay for the future. He's not worth anything more than a 3rd-4th rounder IMO. I'd be fine with giving up a 4th for him and somewhat troubled if we gave up a 3rd for him. Remember, we got Dockery and Cooley in the 3rd round.

I'm amazed that the Dolphins were asking for a first rounder. That's pretty insane IMO. Anyone who gives up a 1st or 2nd rounder for him is crazy.[/QUOTE]

If the Dolphins dont set a high price for Taylor who will?

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Getting Taylor is like getting another Bruce Smith. Yeah, he will probably give us two 8-11 sack seasons, which is tempting considering the state of our pass rush, but the cap figure kills the deal. We need to hope Wilson has a big break out year and Griffin stays healty and address D-line in the draft next year and/or with a big time, but young free agent. This is why the front office should have drafted Groves in the second round instead of Davis. He would of helped the pass rush this year as a specialist with Wilson and then took over for Washington next year or Carter in two or three years.

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I would actually be thrilled to get Jason Taylor (obviously for the right price). I think he is a great pass rusher right now and probably for another 2 seasons. In the event that he does start slowing down, i feel like he has the frame to put on a few pounds of muscle and adapt his game a little bit to be a run-stopper. I don't think there is much risk in paying him for a few years and having him restructure his contract down the line.

Some of you guys who disagree with acquiring him are rightfully wary of chemistry issues, him fitting into our system, previous FA's gone bad, and dead cap space but i think Jason Taylor is the kind of guy who has so much talent that he is definitely worth it.

2007-11 sacks 56 tackles
2006-[B]13.5[/B] sacks 60 tackles
2005-12.0 sacks [B]74[/B] tackles
2004-9.5 sacks [B]67[/B] tackles
2003-13.0 sacks 57 tackles
2002-[B]18.5[/B] sacks [B]69[/B] tackles
2001-8.5 sacks [B]70[/B] tackles
2000-[B]14.5[/B] sacks [B]65[/B] tackles

If that isn't the model of consistency i don't know what is...Considering he lost that complementary guy in Ogunleye in '03 but hasn't missed a beat and has cranked out those numbers, it's really impressive. He get's double teamed nearly every game he plays. I think this is the most important stat to us if we get him...In the past [B]10[/B] years the Miami dolphins have played [B]160[/B] regular season games and Jason Taylor has started [B]158[/B] and played in [B]159[/B] of those games. He hasn't missed a game in [B]EIGHT[/B] years. That is just SICK from the D-end position.

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[quote=skinsfan69;448587]Let Miami release him and then we'll pick him up. They probably don't want to pay is 8 mil salary so play the waiting game. Giving up a high draft pick for Taylor is simply insane.

I'm not so sure about Taylor putting us over the hump either. We don't have a wr like Plax B. that can take over a game. Plus the Giants have 3 or 4 guys that can get after the passer. Right now we barely have one.[/quote]

I doubt Miami will release him, nothing new has happened here since the draft. Parcells put some bait out there (Taylor) leading up to the draft hoping to catch a big fish (1st Round pick) and when he didn't get any bites he's going to keep Taylor. He also set the tone in Miami moving forward. Taylor is a good bet to have 10 sacks next season and the Phins are way under the cap ($18.5 million of cap room). Unless there are any more incidents/statements here I think Taylor stays in South Beach.

Carter is great speed rushing DE and Griffin is a very solid DT who can get after the passer so I think if we added Taylor we'd have 3 guys who could get after the passer. Santana Moss dominated games a few years ago with his speed. Plex dominated a few games last season with his size when he wasn't hurt.

We are not guaranteed to get a star or even a standout with the 2nd round pick in the 2009 Draft. It's still a crapshoot... for every Cooley and Dockery in the 3rd round there's a Rashad Bauman, Cliff Russell and Lloyd Harrisson. For every Jon Jansen or Fred Smoot in the 2nd there's a Taylor Jacobs, Greg Jones, Stephen Alexander or Ladell Betts. Betts has been a good player for us but worthy of a 2nd round pick? Not IMO. We've had some bad luck in the 1st round too. Is 2 seasons of a proven comody like Jason Taylor playing at a Pro Bowl level worth the opportunity of drafting Ladell Betts in the 2nd round?

Gibbs traded our 1st rounder for an older veteran T Jim Lachey who ended up being one of the key pieces in a couple SB's

It was fun having 3 picks in the 2nd round but if in 5 years we look back and 1 or god forbid 2 of them never make an impact on the field then trading one of those 2nd rounders for Jason Taylor who went on to play 2 more years of 11 sack, pro bowl DE looks like a no brainer doesn't it?

My point is, draft picks are not proven commodities no matter how high they are. If you can mortgage some of that risk over the long haul for less of a risk over a shorter period of time sometimes it makes sense.

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I don't see Miami releasing him either. Not sure what his cap hit would be but I'm sure Miami probably isn't interested in eating that for nothing.

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[quote=DGreene28;448627]I doubt Miami will release him, nothing new has happened here since the draft. Parcells put some bait out there (Taylor) leading up to the draft hoping to catch a big fish (1st Round pick) and when he didn't get any bites he's going to keep Taylor. He also set the tone in Miami moving forward. Taylor is a good bet to have 10 sacks next season and the Phins are way under the cap ($18.5 million of cap room). Unless there are any more incidents/statements here I think Taylor stays in South Beach.

Carter is great speed rushing DE and Griffin is a very solid DT who can get after the passer so I think if we added Taylor we'd have 3 guys who could get after the passer. Santana Moss dominated games a few years ago with his speed. Plex dominated a few games last season with his size when he wasn't hurt.

We are not guaranteed to get a star or even a standout with the 2nd round pick in the 2009 Draft. It's still a crapshoot... for every Cooley and Dockery in the 3rd round there's a Rashad Bauman, Cliff Russell and Lloyd Harrisson. For every Jon Jansen or Fred Smoot in the 2nd there's a Taylor Jacobs, Greg Jones, Stephen Alexander or Ladell Betts. Betts has been a good player for us but worthy of a 2nd round pick? Not IMO. We've had some bad luck in the 1st round too. Is 2 seasons of a proven comody like Jason Taylor playing at a Pro Bowl level worth the opportunity of drafting Ladell Betts in the 2nd round?

Gibbs traded our 1st rounder for an older veteran T Jim Lachey who ended up being one of the key pieces in a couple SB's

It was fun having 3 picks in the 2nd round but if in 5 years we look back and 1 or god forbid 2 of them never make an impact on the field then trading one of those 2nd rounders for Jason Taylor who went on to play 2 more years of 11 sack, pro bowl DE looks like a no brainer doesn't it?

My point is, draft picks are not proven commodities no matter how high they are. If you can mortgage some of that risk over the long haul for less of a risk over a shorter period of time sometimes it makes sense.[/quote]\

Well last time I checked the Giants D-line simply beat the crap out of NE's O-line when it mattered most. Our D-line does not have that type of ability of dominate. I haven't seen Griff cave in the pocket since 05. He's solid but he can't dominate and neither can Carter. Moss is not a #1 wr. He's too streaky, hasn't put up big numbers since 05 and injuries really seem to hurt his play. Plus he doesn't get in the end zone like Burress does and that's why we drafted Kelly and Thomas.

Taylor would help but we've already tried this experiment with Bruce Smith. It didn't work. Plus we're not really a SB contending type of team. It looks like we're in transition. New coach, new system on offense and so on. So why chase a 34 year old DE that makes 8 mil?? I just don't see him pushing us over the hump. We've just got too many question marks.

If one of these 2nd round guys fail it doesn't cripple the cap for the next 10 years like this Brandon Lloyd BS. I hope we keep on drafting, and add free agents here and there.

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[quote=skinsfan69;448633]\

Well last time I checked the Giants D-line simply beat the crap out of NE's O-line when it mattered most. Our D-line does not have that type of ability of dominate. I haven't seen Griff cave in the pocket since 05. He's solid but he can't dominate and neither can Carter. Moss is not a #1 wr. He's too streaky, hasn't put up big numbers since 05 and injuries really seem to hurt his play. Plus he doesn't get in the end zone like Burress does and that's why we drafted Kelly and Thomas.

Taylor would help but we've already tried this experiment with Bruce Smith. It didn't work. Plus we're not really a SB contending type of team. It looks like we're in transition. New coach, new system on offense and so on. So why chase a 34 year old DE that makes 8 mil?? I just don't see him pushing us over the hump. We've just got too many question marks.

If one of these 2nd round guys fail it doesn't cripple the cap for the next 10 years like this Brandon Lloyd BS. I hope we keep on drafting, and add free agents here and there.[/quote]

We dominated the trenches vs the GMen in NYC last year,

we only have a new Pass offense this year... our running game will be the same. We also have a lot of the coaches and systems on Defense and teams carrying over from last year

Burress is streaky and injury prone too

Bruce Smith was already on the decline and was a shell of his former self, Taylor has not shown any signs of slowing down to date

Moss does things that Burress can't too like stretch the defense with his speed. The difference between a Super Bowl and a playoff team is not so big, injuries and breaks play a big role. Who would have picked the Packers to do well last year in the preseason?

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[quote=DGreene28;448658]We dominated the trenches vs the GMen in NYC last year,

we only have a new Pass offense this year... our running game will be the same. We also have a lot of the coaches and systems on Defense and teams carrying over from last year

Burress is streaky and injury prone too

Bruce Smith was already on the decline and was a shell of his former self, Taylor has not shown any signs of slowing down to date

Moss does things that Burress can't too like stretch the defense with his speed. The difference between a Super Bowl and a playoff team is not so big, injuries and breaks play a big role. Who would have picked the Packers to do well last year in the preseason?[/quote]

Burress is injury prone but the difference is he can still play at a high level when injured and Moss can't. Plus he a red zone threat. If you saw the GB game he simply took the game over against GB's corners in -10 weather with foot and ankle injuries and that's the difference. Moss quit against GB's corners. I'll take Burress over SM anyday of the week.

I do agree with you that there is not a big difference between us and the Giants. They got hot at the right time. If Miami gives up Taylor for a 4th rounder I'd do it. But not a 1st through 3rd. If they want to unload him and his salary then they'll take the short end of the stick. See Randy Moss to NE last year. That's what smart teams do.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;448666] If they want to unload him and his salary then they'll take the short end of the stick. See Randy Moss to NE last year. That's what smart teams do.[/QUOTE]

Are you suggesting that the Raiders were a smart team for unloading Moss to NE?

Are you thinking Bill Parcells is stupid enough to unload a high character guy for a song (compared to a Moss problem child)

I dont think so....

Would YOU unload Jason Taylor for less than a 3rd?
NO WAY....I probably wouldn't do it for a 2nd...he's just that good.
(and now very flexible and unlikely to get injured due to this crazy dancing gig)

Honestly...post draft...any trade talk is likely to get his to consider restructuring to bring down his cap hit....
If anyone gets him for less than a 2nd I'd be suprized...Parcells aint dumb.
But I'd still hope we'd offer him a 3rd and hope we get lucky.

He would instantly upgrade our most questionable position, short and mid term.
NO ONE that is that buff only has 2 years left

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;448633]\

Well last time I checked the Giants D-line simply beat the crap out of NE's O-line when it mattered most.[/QUOTE]

Giants won when it mattered. Had they not squeaked by in the SB everyone wouldn't be talking as much about the huge need for a killer d-line. They'd be talking about the 18 near murders that the Patriots put on through the rest of the year. What the Pats did on offense all year greatly eclipses what the Giants front 4 did.

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[QUOTE=tryfuhl;448721]Giants won when it mattered. Had they not squeaked by in the SB everyone wouldn't be talking as much about the huge need for a killer d-line. They'd be talking about the 18 near murders that the Patriots put on through the rest of the year. What the Pats did on offense all year greatly eclipses what the Giants front 4 did.[/QUOTE]

So to jump in here...but I firmly disagree. It doesn't matter what you do during the season, you HAVE to bring home the big one, or none of it matters. What the Giants did in the SB does indeed eclipse the offensive juggernaut that was the Patriots in 07. The Giants won when it mattered.

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[quote=skinsnut;448701]Are you suggesting that the Raiders were a smart team for unloading Moss to NE?

Are you thinking Bill Parcells is stupid enough to unload a high character guy for a song (compared to a Moss problem child)

I dont think so....

Would YOU unload Jason Taylor for less than a 3rd?
NO WAY....I probably wouldn't do it for a 2nd...he's just that good.
(and now very flexible and unlikely to get injured due to this crazy dancing gig)

Honestly...post draft...any trade talk is likely to get his to consider restructuring to bring down his cap hit....
If anyone gets him for less than a 2nd I'd be suprized...Parcells aint dumb.
But I'd still hope we'd offer him a 3rd and hope we get lucky.

He would instantly upgrade our most questionable position, short and mid term.
NO ONE that is that buff only has 2 years left[/quote]

Hell no. The Raiders were the dumb asses in that deal. They should've got at least a 2nd round pick. NE came out ahead. Way ahead and that's what we need to start doing when we try and get FA's. Instead we give up draft picks for Brunell, Lloyd Duckett and so on.

How many years do you think Taylor can play at a high level? One or two years. If you think we're one player away from being a SB contender then make the move. I just don't think we're that type of team.

If I were Miami I would just trade him away and get what I could. They're in 100% rebuilding moad. When they're ready to contend he is going to be long gone. I'd ask for a player and a 3rd rounder.

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[quote=tryfuhl;448721]Giants won when it mattered. Had they not squeaked by in the SB everyone wouldn't be talking as much about the huge need for a killer d-line. They'd be talking about the 18 near murders that the Patriots put on through the rest of the year. What the Pats did on offense all year greatly eclipses what the Giants front 4 did.[/quote]

I don't know about that. Yes, NE's 07 offense was record breaking. But I'm sure if you asked Brady and Moss they'd probably throw those records away if they could've gotten the win over the Giants.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;448728]So to jump in here...but I firmly disagree. It doesn't matter what you do during the season, you HAVE to bring home the big one, or none of it matters. What the Giants did in the SB does indeed eclipse the offensive juggernaut that was the Patriots in 07. The Giants won when it mattered.[/QUOTE]

I too have to go 100% here with Jsarno...the Giants D-line did what no other defense did ALL SEASON! And that was get in Brady's face all game.

That being said...if we "somehow"...could get Taylor at the right price (aka not one that would break our bank as in the past) I'd be all for bringing him on-board. For the same reason that we're talking about...D-line!!! Let's pretend and be SUPER optimistic and say the Redskins go to the Super Bowl this year and face the Pats, assuming their offense is like last years, who here would feel confident with the D-line the way it is against the Pats as of right now???

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[QUOTE=Redskins247;448741]I too have to go 100% here with Jsarno...the Giants D-line did what no other defense did ALL SEASON! And that was get in Brady's face all game.

That being said...if we "somehow"...could get Taylor at the right price (aka not one that would break our bank as in the past) I'd be all for bringing him on-board. For the same reason that we're talking about...D-line!!! Let's pretend and be SUPER optimistic and say the Redskins go to the Super Bowl this year and face the Pats, assuming their offense is like last years, who here would feel confident with the D-line the way it is against the Pats as of right now???[/QUOTE]

I absolutely agree.
Although we'd have to take something an 8 mil salary too. Not so sure we need that. But if we could somehow restructure him, I'm all for it.

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Personally, I keep waiting for A. Montgomery to form into an A. Haynesworth level DT. I remember Williams talking about Montgomery's unlimited potential, that he did not even understand how good he could be. Since the coaches/FO have chosen to leave the d-line unchanged I keep thinking it could be that they see a break out year ahead too. Then we've got Evans, not much younger than the starters but he seems to produce when he gets his chances.

I'm probably being too optimistic but what I hope to see is a rotation where Griffin and Montgomery can consistently pressure up the middle while Evans and Daniels can swap out. AC doesn't need a rotation because he's in better shape than every other guy on the field.

I still wish we could have drafted d-line talent (and maybe a Taylor deal could work) but at this point I hope Blache and the guys are harnessing every bit of talent we have.

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[quote=The Goat;448745]Personally, I keep waiting for A. Montgomery to form into an A. Haynesworth level DT. I remember Williams talking about Montgomery's unlimited potential, that he did not even understand how good he could be. Since the coaches/FO have chosen to leave the d-line unchanged I keep thinking it could be that they see a break out year ahead too. Then we've got Evans, not much younger than the starters but he seems to produce when he gets his chances.

I'm probably being too optimistic but what I hope to see is a rotation where Griffin and Montgomery can consistently pressure up the middle while Evans and Daniels can swap out. AC doesn't need a rotation because he's in better shape than every other guy on the field.

I still wish we could have drafted d-line talent (and maybe a Taylor deal could work) but at this point I hope Blache and the guys are harnessing every bit of talent we have.[/quote]

Montgomery is the key. He is now going into his 3rd year and he now has two years under his belt. I'm looking for him to take the next step.