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Giantone 06-05-2008 07:22 PM

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[quote=pigskinusa.com;451253]I know you Redskins fans don't want to hear this but the Cowboys should win the NFC East going away this year. In my opinion the Skins played over their heads last year and Joe Gibbs was the difference. Although I did like what they did in the draft. You guys got some young studs on the offensive side of the ball.[/quote]


Cowboys won it last year,tell me how that worked out for them.

dutch111 06-05-2008 09:45 PM

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[QUOTE=Cowell;451463]Wow we already have a score prediction, and we don't even know the starting lineups![/QUOTE]

Pretty much know, it will be simular to last year, with a few plus's in washingtons recievers. Same defense with a possible piglet here and there. Baby Manning had his year,and will falter this year. I guess you could say he's on the HIT list!

T.O.Killa 06-05-2008 10:57 PM

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I think the Redskins will be the most improved team. We have great offensive line with proven depth, that can start. The recievers have been greatley imroved. They have beefed up the the d-line and the secondary. I am predicting 11-5.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 06-06-2008 12:32 AM

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;451121]Good point right there, but I do think they will handle their division pretty easily.

Although the Rams could be a darkhorse. They haven't had a defense since 2001, but their last three first round picks have been Tye Hill, Adam Carriker, and Chris Long, and every one of those guys could be a defensive cornerstone.

If that defense becomes a top half defense, the Rams could certainly ruin the Cards' playoff chances.

I really like Arizona's defense this year, and I've liked their offense for quite some time now.[/QUOTE]

Provided their O-line is relatively healthy, I definitely think the Rams are going to be playoff contenders. I am a bit surprised though that you like the Jets' chances. Pennington is efficient, but he can't stretch the field. I used to think he was a very good QB, but not anymore.

GTripp0012 06-06-2008 12:09 PM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;451606]Provided their O-line is relatively healthy, I definitely think the Rams are going to be playoff contenders. I am a bit surprised though that you like the Jets' chances. Pennington is efficient, but he can't stretch the field. I used to think he was a very good QB, but not anymore.[/quote]Pennington did have a rough year last season, but it didn't seem to be arm strength related. Rather, it seemed like he was making uncharacteristically poor decisions in October last season.

I think we know from the career year phenomenon (that even poor players can be good for half-3/4 of a season) that decision-making can be spotty. Tom Brady had an awful half year to start 2006. Kordell Stewart went to the Pro Bowl in 2001. Derek Anderson was one of the 5 best QB's in the NFL through the first 8 games last year -- and most metrics don't even have him in the top half last year. Joey Harrington was really good last year too, and we know Harrington is an awful career passer.

I don't think there's any reason to think that Pennington wouldn't return to form next year and fill a pretty big void on the Jets roster. It looks like Mangini is going to give him the chance.

Cowell 06-07-2008 10:04 AM

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I used to think Pennington was an average starting quarterback. I always knew he lacked the arm strength, but I thought he made up for it with good decision making, and precise throwing.
The things is Pennington does not have the skill sets to carry a team. He needs at least a couple of players around him that can get the job done. Surround Pennington w/ talent, and his mediocrity is not so much an issue. He just doesen't have the skills to build an offense around.

dutch111 06-07-2008 11:16 PM

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[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;451593]I think the Redskins will be the most improved team. We have great offensive line with proven depth, that can start. The recievers have been greatley imroved. They have beefed up the the d-line and the secondary. I am predicting 11-5.[/QUOTE]

Stop being modest! I think 13 and 3! At liest I hope! lol ! In any case, it's going to be fun! Too much talent, regardless of age, to count out! The team is a whole, and will be a force to reckon with! Watch out nfc east!!!!!!!

starzzz 06-08-2008 12:01 AM

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[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;451593]I think the Redskins will be the most improved team. We have great offensive line with proven depth, that can start. The recievers have been greatley imroved. They have beefed up the the d-line and the secondary. I am predicting 11-5.[/QUOTE]Did you say a great o-line? I would say a solid o-line, but great? BARTENDER!!! GIVE ME WHAT HE'S DRINKING!!!

GTripp0012 06-08-2008 12:58 AM

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There are four "wins" on the Redskins schedule and four "losses" on it**

**[I]I define a 'win' and a 'loss' statistically. A game is considered a "win" if the Redskins season (by my projections) point differential is +35 at home, or if it is +65 on the road. Likewise, I consider a game a loss if the season projected point differential is -35 on the road, or -65 at home.

Of course, that doesn't mean the Redskins will win or lose any particular game, that's not the goal of my system. The only goal of my system is to look at every team over the course of the season, and see how many games they are totally overmatched/should dominate in. By simply doing this, I can put together a big picture idea of how each team will do, which is the goal. Just to get close.[/I]

The most likely outcome of this season is 8-8, but anywhere from 6-10 wins seems reasonable to say. I don't think 10 wins will take the NFC East, but it should be good enough for a wild card.

That Guy 06-08-2008 03:10 AM

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[quote=starzzz;451841]Did you say a great o-line? I would say a solid o-line, but great? BARTENDER!!! GIVE ME WHAT HE'S DRINKING!!![/quote]

ES is calling for you. it seems like it'd be a better fit.

KokoMike 06-10-2008 06:17 PM

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I don't like the Cowboys.

skinsfan_nn 06-10-2008 06:27 PM

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[quote=KokoMike;452275]I don't like the Cowboys.[/quote]

KoKo...Thats a great WIN/LOSS prediction.....? Don't hold back next time tell us how you really feel....:confused:

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 06-10-2008 06:38 PM

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It's very early and I'm going to get blasted, but I predict a 7-9 season for the Redskins. The defense weakens to a middle-of-the-pack unit and JC doesn't really shine until week 8. On a bright note, Portis excels in the WCO.

SeanTaylor21 06-10-2008 06:54 PM

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I predict that the Giants will go 5-11 because of how much a leader Michael Strahan was for their team, and it depends on how Justin Tuck plays replacing him.

That Guy 06-10-2008 08:33 PM

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tuck and the nyg DL will be fine. they have MK if they want to shift him too.

i don't think strahan has that big an impact on their W/L record, but i don't think the gnants will be repeating either.

coggs 06-10-2008 08:35 PM

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New England, [SIZE="7"]18-1!!!!!![/SIZE]

coggs 06-10-2008 08:35 PM

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[QUOTE=SeanTaylor21;452282]I predict that the Giants will go 5-11 because of how much a leader Michael Strahan was for their team, and it depends on how Justin Tuck plays replacing him.[/QUOTE]
Care to take any action on that?

GTripp0012 06-12-2008 12:40 AM

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;452279]It's very early and I'm going to get blasted, but I predict a 7-9 season for the Redskins. The defense weakens to a middle-of-the-pack unit and JC doesn't really shine until week 8. On a bright note, Portis excels in the WCO.[/QUOTE]Think I agree with everything you said here, and I have a few thoughts to add to it.

The schedule is not as tough as it's been the last few years. Like SGG said, the talent on this team doesn't figure to return to the playoffs, and our toughest...like 4 toughest games are within the division.

With that said, the easiest way for this team to get back to the playoffs would be to excel within the NFC East. The Cowboys should be good for at least a split, hopefully two wins, but we are going to be hard pressed to pull a win against apparently superior Eagles and Giant squads (and the Cowboys seem superior also, just not quite as much).

This is the good news: all of our challenging non-divisional games will be played at home this year. So if this team does miss the playoffs, it's going to be because we were unable to defend our HFA, not because the schedulemakers threw us some bad breaks.

We, as fans, will have a tendency to underestimate the loss of our 2004 first rounder for the rest of his career and our 2005 first rounder for the first part of the season. For a team that didn't leave itself a lot of picks in that era, that's going to be downright crippling in the short term.

In the future, Jason Campbell will carry this team to where it wants to go. The team will draft intelligently and replace its vets with youth. But for this team, I'm just not very optimistic. We don't have the horses to run with the other teams in our division, and we can blame 100% of that on the football gods because with 16 games of Sean Taylor and Carlos Rogers in the secondary, we absolutely would be able to run with those guys. Instead, we have 16 games of Reed Doughty and Justin Tryon. It sucks, but that's what this team is.


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