Ya... I also noticed the RBs in the ACF West... Clinton Portis, Priest Holmes, Ladanian Tomlinson... understandable how your run stopping numbers could look bad when you play these guys twice a season.

[QUOTE=la73hof]Anyone happen to notice that the Broncos opponents in the AFC West had the 25th, 30th and dead last (32nd) ranked rush D's? [/QUOTE]

Yeah I guess if Holmes or Tomlinson left the AFC West they would suck too

:rolleyes:

Unless, of course, they joined the Cowboys, right la73? Or should I call you "The Master of Bad Statistics"?

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Yeah I guess if Holmes or Tomlinson left the AFC West they would suck too

:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

btw, ever think the afc sucked cause of.. i don't know... LT, holmes, and portis.

[QUOTE=EEich]Unless, of course, they joined the Cowboys, right la73? Or should I call you "The Master of Bad Statistics"?[/QUOTE]

Puh-leese..They are great backs, but Im feel very good on the chances of Julius Jones. Remeber the old days of developing YOUR OWN talent?

I know, I know-- its been a while for you guys...

Ya... I thought that.

[QUOTE=EEich]Ya... I also noticed the RBs in the ACF West... Clinton Portis, Priest Holmes, Ladanian Tomlinson... understandable how your run stopping numbers could look bad when you play these guys twice a season.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=That Guy]btw, ever think the afc sucked cause of.. i don't know... LT, holmes, and portis.[/QUOTE]

True,, but the AFC teams play each other twice..multiply that by 3 teams and thats 6 games...how about the other 10?

[QUOTE=EEich]Unless, of course, they joined the Cowboys, right la73? Or should I call you "The Master of Bad Statistics"?[/QUOTE]

LOL..Master of bad statistics..Here's a bad one

Weve won 12 of the last 13 from you guys :headbange

We did develop our own talent... his name was Champ Bailey and we used his ass to get us one of the best backs in the game.

You f-ing hypocrite... are you developing your own talent with a retread like Vinny Testaverde?

[QUOTE=EEich]We did develop our own talent... his name was Champ Bailey and we used his ass to get us one of the best backs in the game.

You f-ing hypocrite... are you developing your own talent with a retread like Vinny Testaverde?[/QUOTE]

LOL!!!...you can thank Mike Ditka and his hard on for Ricky Williams for that one.--and you still sent a gift 2nd rounder for Portis

The RB position has been one of the easiest to fill in the draft..from early to mid and even late rounders

Testaverde didnt cost us a 3rd, 6 years/43 mil with 10 mil to sign

We traded for the future (henson) not aging quick fix (Brunnel)

Again, just a difference in Philosophy...cap sanity vs cap insanity and valuing draft selections and parting with them

Hey Matty... this idiot is only here to start a war and he needs to be shown the door. Time to flex your moderator muscles.

[QUOTE=la73hof]
The RB position has been one of the easiest to fill in the draft..from early to mid and even late rounders

Testaverde didnt cost us a 3rd, 6 years/43 mil with 10 mil to sign

We traded for the future (henson) not aging quick fix (Brunnel)

Again, just a difference in Philosophy...cap sanity vs cap insanity and valuing draft selections and parting with them[/QUOTE]

MUCH rather have proven players at key positions like Coles, Thomas and Portis than gamble on draft selections. Vinny isn't an aging quick fix?

but your argument sounds like you (and Parcells) are conceding this season for the future. is that right? thats certainly one philosophy..hope you and the othe CB fans enjoy your season..

[QUOTE=illdefined]MUCH rather have proven players at key positions like Coles, Thomas and Portis than gamble on draft selections. heh, how do you mention aging quick fix without even mentioning Vinny?

but your argument sounds like you (and Parcells) are conceding this season for the future. is that right? thats certainly one philosophy..[/QUOTE]

Vinny is a quick fix..thats for sure..but the point I keep trying to make is

1) we didnt overpay
2) he didnt cost us a future 3rd rounder
3) we are not concerding this season AT ALL...we will be a better team with the same if not better record

[QUOTE=EEich]Hey Matty... this idiot is only here to start a war and he needs to be shown the door. Time to flex your moderator muscles.[/QUOTE]

Who's trying to flame? No personal attacks, just a lot of facts

If Im told to leave, I'll do so

guys, guys. look at this fool. hes here praising steven jackson saying how we would be better off with him than portis, when his team passed on him so they could get julius jones, a 2nd round pick to be the feature back behind a shitty o-line? wow. talk about getting your stories mixed up.

[QUOTE=la73hof]
3) we are not concerding this season AT ALL...we will be a better team with the same if not better record[/QUOTE]

heh and Eddie George too. all you guys have are rookies and guys at the tail end of their careers. better record than last years huh? bold statement. sorry man but the future is far from now for you guys.

I know that I'd like you to leave... you're definitely not making this a better place.

[QUOTE=EEich]I know that I'd like you to leave... you're definitely not making this a better place.[/QUOTE]

Fair enough..see you week 3..

nah, why's he gotta go? he'll leave when the season actually starts anyway. heh.

[quote]True,, but the AFC teams play each other twice..multiply that by 3 teams and thats 6 games...how about the other 10?[/quote]

what about them? 6 games is enough to soil your ranking pretty thoroughly...

[quote]The RB position has been one of the easiest to fill in the draft..from early to mid and even late rounders[/quote]

like troy hambrick right? portis is proven... many more of the backs drafted this year will end up NOT starting then making a difference...

[quote]Testaverde didnt cost us a 3rd, 6 years/43 mil with 10 mil to sign[/quote]
and you know why? cause he's awful...

[quote]We traded for the future (henson) not aging quick fix (Brunnel)[/quote]
and that's why we have ramsey... you do know we have more than one QB right? and don't bother feeding me crap about how bad ramsey is, look at his stats from last year, they're much better than other starting QBs per game... henson hasn't had a snap or a game planned against him yet; preseason play means nothing.

[quote]Again, just a difference in Philosophy...cap sanity vs cap insanity and valuing draft selections and parting with them[/quote]

can't defend your position so you're start throwing insults ;) how high-minded... the FO here liked proven players, dallas has spent a lot of draft picks on crap players... its just the value they place on picks/performance... just cause you think picks are better doesn't make your position better OR more righteous, "so there ain't no reason to be like that"

[quote]Vinny is a quick fix..thats for sure..but the point I keep trying to make is

1) we didnt overpay
2) he didnt cost us a future 3rd rounder
3) we are not concerding this season AT ALL...we will be a better team with the same if not better record[/quote]

SO... you didn't overpay and got crap players in return and you don't mind losing ;)

[QUOTE=EEich]Hey Matty... this idiot is only here to start a war and he needs to be shown the door. Time to flex your moderator muscles.[/QUOTE]
That's ridiculous. He's just engaging in Redskins discussion, which is what this site is about. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with us, as long as he's respectful about it, which he has been.

its true. he didn't do anything wrong at all.



and being a cowboy fan will be its own punishment this season.

This guy was here to bash the Redskins and praise the Cowboys and only for that reason. His arguments were not reasonable and when they were refuted he resorts to "Weve won 12 of the last 13 from you guys ". Do you want Cowboys thumpers on this site rubbing our faces in this stat?

[QUOTE=JudgeJebus]That's ridiculous. He's just engaging in Redskins discussion, which is what this site is about. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with us, as long as he's respectful about it, which he has been.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EEich]This guy was here to bash the Redskins and praise the Cowboys and only for that reason. His arguments were not reasonable and when they were refuted he resorts to "Weve won 12 of the last 13 from you guys ". Do you want Cowboys thumpers on this site rubbing our faces in this stat?[/QUOTE]

12 out of 13 is a reasonable argument because its probably true. as much as it sucks to hear, its relevant man. so is our ambitious capmaxing moves. and the name calling isn't coming from him.

just bash him back, its gonna be easier than ever this year.