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Wow. I didn't realize that it was that bad. This changes everything in the AFC

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Yes it does...this has to put the Jets at the top. The Bills are a team you must watch also, but I hate to say I feel the Bretts could use this as a push for them. To top it all off, NE goes to NY to play the Bretts in week 2! What a game that will be, sorry I'll miss bc I'll be at FedEx chreeing on the Skins. Hail!

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[quote=Jamaican'Skin;473646]Wow. I didn't realize that it was that bad. This changes everything in the AFC[/quote]

Yes it does...I would say this makes the Colts the favorites, but they don't seem to want to want that title with their play vs the bears.

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[quote=Mattyk72;473627]He retired last week.

[url=http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j46atCiBWmEhT7QMvLXmMto7FZLQD93045G80]The Associated Press: Quarterback Daunte Culpepper retires from NFL[/url][/quote]

Didn't hear that. Still, I think that was because no one would sign him, not because he felt like hanging it up.

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[quote=djnemo65;473654]Didn't hear that. Still, I think that was because no one would sign him, not because he felt like hanging it up.[/quote]

That's true. Can't really blame him...if someone picks up the likes of Byron Leftwich, but Culpepper is unemployed, that is not right. I don't blame him for throwing in the towel. He was only 31. His career has shown enough to at least warrant a 2nd or 3rd qb on someones roster.

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[quote=jsarno;473667]That's true. Can't really blame him...if someone picks up the likes of Byron Leftwich, but Culpepper is unemployed, that is not right. I don't blame him for throwing in the towel. He was only 31. His career has shown enough to at least warrant a 2nd or 3rd qb on someones roster.[/quote]

I don't know. Leftwich is only a couple years removed from looking pretty good. If there is room on a roster somewhere for Jordan Palmer you have to think Leftwich should be playing too. I guess the problem with both Daunte and Byron is that they would come in with aspirations of starting again. Compare that with a beta-qb who is more than happy to hold the clipboard, as opposed to a first round guy lobbying behind the scenes to take over, and you can see which is better for all-important team chemistry.

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I don't wish an injury on anybody but don't ask me to feel sorry for him. They didn't mind running the score up on us while Jansen and Thomas were out with injuries. I believe that's the game Carlos got hurt in wasn't it? Moss is already calling it a dirty play. Our quarterback got hurt last year. No one is immune from injuries. Smug bastards. " Be nice on your way up, because you're going to see the same people on the way down "

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While I don't wish an injury on anyone, I'm not feeling sorry for Brady or the Patriots. They ran up the score on us last year, and I remember pretty-boy being pissed off at his lineman for a false start penalty when they were up by several TDs, clearly he wanted to score more. Then Bill Belicheat kept him in during meaningless games while he pursued his undefeated season. I haven't seen any team get away with all this crap and not get struck by karma. Well I think it finally happened.

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[quote=53Fan;473689]I don't wish an injury on anybody but don't ask me to feel sorry for him. They didn't mind running the score up on us while Jansen and Thomas were out with injuries. I believe that's the game Carlos got hurt in wasn't it? Moss is already calling it a dirty play. Our quarterback got hurt last year. No one is immune from injuries. Smug bastards. " Be nice on your way up, because you're going to see the same people on the way down "[/quote]

Maybe Moss will go down next week.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;473702]Maybe Moss will go down next week.[/quote]

Randy Moss is going to regress to his old ways once the Patriots start to lose games. I can't wait to see him walk off a Pats loss before the game ends. LOL.

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[quote=Ruhskins;473704]Randy Moss is going to regress to his old ways once the Patriots start to lose games. I can't wait to see him walk off a Pats loss before the game ends. LOL.[/quote]

He'll demand a trade and quit on his routes.

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Wow. It's amazing how in one snap a franchise' fortunes can change for an entire season. Now I'm not exactly sympathetic to his plight, because I hate the Patriots almost as much as a rival, but I wouldn't wish this on him. He's got a long road to recovery ahead of him, but since this happened so early he'll have a better chance to be 100% when training camp starts next year.

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Pats won't suffer that much. Caswell did a decent job in filling in and hit Moss for a 51 yard bomb and played turnover free. Only thing is that I can see that will hurt the Pats is that Mulroney is going to have to step up and I am not sure he can do it.

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[quote=KWilly_2003;473644]I am super pissed over this Tom Brady thing. I didn't want to see this happen to him.................no no.....I wanted to see his leg snap in half.[/quote]

I still can't believe some of you people on this board, including saden. I thought much more highly of you all, but why would you wish injury?

Yeah Brady is a dick, an arrogant prick, needs to get off his high horse, etc. I hate him almost as much as Romo, but seriously celebrating and praising a painful injury on people is just fucked up. It's bad karma and just being a bad person. Come on guys you all are better than that, no need to stoop down to that level.

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[quote=hooskins;473709]I still can't believe some of you people on this board, including saden. I thought much more highly of you all, but why would you wish injury?

Yeah Brady is a dick, an arrogant prick, needs to get off his high horse, etc. I hate him almost as much as Romo, but seriously celebrating and praising a painful injury on people is just fucked up. It's bad karma and just being a bad person. Come on guys you all are better than that, no need to stoop down to that level.[/quote]

I just don't know how you can claim to be a football fan and then rejoice when the best player in the game goes down for the year. When the Colts play the Pats later in the season and no one cares I think it will hit you how much you miss have Brady as a supervillain.

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[quote=djnemo65;473654]Didn't hear that. Still, I think that was because no one would sign him, not because he felt like hanging it up.[/quote]

There were several teams that asked him to compete for a backup job. He always said no, at most he would compete for the starting job. So that was that.

As for the Pats, huge news. Will this reveal Belichick as a true genius, or Brady as a truly great QB? Should be interesting to see.

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I just don't know how you can claim to be a football fan and then rejoice when the best player in the game goes down for the year. When the Colts play the Pats later in the season and no one cares I think it will hit you how much you miss have Brady as a supervillain.[/QUOTE]

how can you be a football fan and NOT rejoice a teeny bit? They have been dominant it is time for another team to step into the light..if i had a nickel for everytime i have heard about "the glory of tom brady" id be a rich and happy man

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[quote=SmootSmack;473723]There were several teams that asked him to compete for a backup job. He always said no, at most he would compete for the starting job. So that was that..[/quote]

Don't forget that he has the most obnoxious agent ever. There are a lot of teams that don't want to deal with him. I think if he swallowed some of his pride and took a backup job making backup salary he'd be on a roster by Friday.

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[quote=Ruhskins;473696]While I don't wish an injury on anyone, I'm not feeling sorry for Brady or the Patriots. They ran up the score on us last year, and I remember pretty-boy being pissed off at his lineman for a false start penalty when they were up by several TDs, clearly he wanted to score more. Then Bill Belicheat kept him in during meaningless games while he pursued his undefeated season. I haven't seen any team get away with all this crap and not get struck by karma. Well I think it finally happened.[/quote]
exactly how i feel. you reap what you sow

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[quote=djnemo65;473711]I just don't know how you can claim to be a football fan and then rejoice when the best player in the game goes down for the year. When the Colts play the Pats later in the season and no one cares I think it will hit you how much you miss have Brady as a supervillain.[/quote]



wouldnt call him the best player in the league

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Sucks for Tom Brady. I hate that he got injured, but I DON'T feel bad for the Patriots! I'm tired seeing them in the Super Bowl almost every single year. It's time for a completely different team to start dominating the NFL. Like..like...the REDSKINS! :D

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It does suck for Brady, but all good things come to an end... eventually.

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man i know i didnt post it on here but all preseason i was telling my brother brady and manning were going down for atleast 3-4 weeks this year. they have just played to long in this league without some random play injuring them. throw in the fact that they werent in preseason stretching out and getting their bodies game ready and the writing was on the wall.

no matter how good you are at feeling pressure and knowing when to get rid of the ball you cant escape injuries in this league your entire career unless your last name is favre.

sucks for the pats, will be interesting to see how much support they get from their fans when theyre not playoff bound.

go skins!

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Let's see Belicheat try to run up the score now. He was lucky to escape with a win at home against a crappy Chiefs team.

As Joe Gibbs famously said, after the starting QB, the next most important player on the roster is your backup QB. Now we find out what "the Great Belichick" does without his franchise player.

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Don't like to see anyone get injured, especially a season ending injury. What does get me is everyone saying how much the NFL needs Brady. In my opinion, Brady is not the NFL or larger than the game. This is just the opportunity for someone else. Injuries are part of the game.

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I'm not saying Cassel is going to lead the team to a Super Bowl, but I'd love to go back and see how Rams and Patriots fans reacted when Green and Bledsoe went down for for Warner and Green, respectively?

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Fanasty football owners that picked Brady kill yourself

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;473795]Fanasty football owners that picked Brady kill yourself[/quote]


What is worse then that is on CBS Sports I reviewed all trades in all leagues for 9/07. There were people who traded for Brady on that day (I assuming before the injury). I saw one trade Manning for Brady straight up on 9/07, DAGGER! That guy who trade Manning must have shoot himself, that afternoon.

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Matt Cassell will get to start his first game SINCE HIGH SCHOOL next week. :D :D :D


I usually do not take any joy in seeing anyone get hurt, but when it happens to someone as arrogant as Brady who plays on a team that cheats...it's tough not to smile about it because he's due for a return back to reality...he IS human like the rest of us.

Now he'll have time to get a few more women pregnant.

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I still think the Pats are a top 5 NFL team, but the big difference now is that they aren't a lock for 5-1 or better in the AFC East. And if teams in your division can beat you, then even a good team can miss the playoffs.

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the pats will miss the playoffs this year, mark my words

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[quote=skinsguy;473735]Sucks for Tom Brady. I hate that he got injured, but I DON'T feel bad for the Patriots! I'm tired seeing them in the Super Bowl almost every single year. It's time for a completely different team to start dominating the NFL. Like..like...the REDSKINS! :D[/quote]
Well with Brady out its like a guy on the PGA cheering his victory but knowing that the best player/team was out hurt.

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[quote=firstdown;473863]Well with Brady out its like a guy on the PGA cheering his victory but knowing that the best player/team was out hurt.[/quote]

im sorrry, but i dont know anyone who celebrates a win and thinks that. Staying healthy is part of being good at sports. I dont care how good you are, if you arent healthy enough to play, it doesnt matter.

A win is a win and the pats will not be the same team after this fiasco, its about time. everyteam has to fall from the glory, and now its the pats turn

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I hope Brady comes back and it recovers 100%. But when will these guys learn? All right handed QB's should have on a knee brace on the left leg cause their plant legs are the most vunerable. Not saying it would've saved his knee cause it didn't work on Carson Palmer but it might have.

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[quote=SmootSmack;473787]I'm not saying Cassel is going to lead the team to a Super Bowl, but I'd love to go back and see how Rams and Patriots fans reacted when Green and Bledsoe went down for for Warner and Green, respectively?[/quote]


I lived in NE when Bledsoe went down and he was pretty much hated there. No one when was crying to hard.

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I guess I am in the minority here, especially when I say that even with Brady out for the year, the Patriots are still a team that will attain double digit wins.

They can still end up 10-6 or even 11-5 when the smoke clears. Say what you want about Bellicheat, but the fact of the matter is the Patriots are the best coached team in the league. Say what you will, but he keeps that team grounded and on the same page.

Second, it was not that long ago in 1999 or 2000, that the Patriots starting QB went out with an injury and an unknown, backup 6th round pick named Tom Brady stepped in and blew everyone away.

Third, the Pats have the EASIEST regular season schedule in the league.

And lastly, if you have to use a back up like Cassel, then look at the talent surrounding him. Moss, Watson, Maroney, Faulk, Welker. Not to mention a veteran defense that knows how to keep thier team in the game until the final gun sounds.

With the talent, coaching and schedule I think Cassel is programmed for success. If he blows this chance, it is unilkely he will succeed any where in the league.

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[quote=Buster;473811]Matt Cassell will get to start his first game SINCE HIGH SCHOOL next week. :D :D :D


I usually do not take any joy in seeing anyone get hurt, but when it happens to someone as arrogant as Brady who plays on a team that cheats...it's tough not to smile about it because he's due for a return back to reality...he IS human like the rest of us.

Now he'll have time to get a few more women pregnant.[/quote]

Sour grapes.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;473887]I guess I am in the minority here, especially when I say that even with Brady out for the year, the Patriots are still a team that will attain double digit wins.

They can still end up 10-6 or even 11-5 when the smoke clears. Say what you want about Bellicheat, but the fact of the matter is the Patriots are the best coached team in the league. Say what you will, but he keeps that team grounded and on the same page.

Second, it was not that long ago in 1999 or 2000, that the Patriots starting QB went out with an injury and an unknown, backup 6th round pick named Tom Brady stepped in and blew everyone away.

Third, the Pats have the EASIEST regular season schedule in the league.

And lastly, if you have to use a back up like Cassel, then look at the talent surrounding him. Moss, Watson, Maroney, Faulk, Welker. Not to mention a veteran defense that knows how to keep thier team in the game until the final gun sounds.

With the talent, coaching and schedule I think Cassel is programmed for success. If he blows this chance, it is unilkely he will succeed any where in the league.[/quote]

I agree.

I said earlier in this thread I thought they were a 13-3 team with Brady, 10-6 without him.

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yeah but 10-6 might not make the playoffs in the AFC

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It could win that division though.