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BDBohnzie 10-01-2008 04:50 PM

Re: Thoughts on Eagles/Redskins
 
As just about everyone has stated, the key to the Eagles Offense is Westbrook. If Westbrook plays, the Eagles have what it takes to move the ball the score big points. Without him, Buckhalter and Booker just aren't scary. The Skins secondary have more than enough to shut down Jackson, Baskett, and Lewis. Throw Westbrook into the equation, and there will be a mismatch somewhere that McNabb can exploit.

On the flipside, the Skins O-Line have to keep Jim Johnson's blitzes off of JC's ass. The Eagles have a very good secondary, with Dawkins bringing the hammer, and Asante Samuel one of the better cover guys in the league. JC needs to keep playing his game, and building his confidence.

That said, Beast Rivalry matches can get downright ugly...

Skins 16
Eagles 13

GMScud 10-01-2008 05:01 PM

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[quote=BDBohnzie;484103]As just about everyone has stated, the key to the Eagles Offense is Westbrook. If Westbrook plays, the Eagles have what it takes to move the ball the score big points. Without him, Buckhalter and Booker just aren't scary. The Skins secondary have more than enough to shut down Jackson, Baskett, and Lewis. Throw Westbrook into the equation, and there will be a mismatch somewhere that McNabb can exploit.
[/quote]

ESPN just now reported Westbrook participated in practice today and is expected to play this weekend. Shit.

doughtydoubter 10-01-2008 05:15 PM

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skins 27 eagles 20.

it will b up to the o line and our "cobra package" this game.
doughty better play solid

Hog1 10-01-2008 05:16 PM

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I would prefer to KICK THEIR ASS with all their horses! No excuses
...........but I hear ya'

NYCskinfan82 10-01-2008 05:57 PM

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should be a good game we have to keep there offense of the field and ware out their defense.

4mrusmc 10-01-2008 07:06 PM

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I think that this game will be a coming out party for one of our rookie wideouts. This team is progressing and getting the confidence it needs to buy into what the coaches are selling. With these weapons being used to their potential, defenses will not be able to key on one thing. I hope that I'm not jinxing anything here but I think that this team is on the verge of scoring many points in any game that they play in.

The defense is playing very well too, but more pass rush is sorely needed. Romo looked at little too comfortable moving around in the pocket with would-be tacklers wiffing by.

I'm curious to know about the status of some of our starters that got nicked-up against dallas, and is J. Taylor going to be ready to go?

But, overall I like what I'm seeing each week. This team appears to be hitting it's stride.

theJBexperience 10-01-2008 07:24 PM

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[quote=4mrusmc;484129]I think that this game will be a coming out party for one of our rookie wideouts.[/quote]

I really hope Devin Thomas breaks out. Next to Justin Tryon, I've been most concerned about him. Also, when will we start seeing Fred Davis in 2 TE formations?

WaldSkins 10-01-2008 07:34 PM

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They have no TE, shit for receivers and a RB if he plays that will be the focus of the defense. I dont see how they score more then 14

GMScud 10-01-2008 07:36 PM

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[quote=WaldSkins;484135]They have no TE, shit for receivers and a RB if he plays that will be the focus of the defense. I dont see how they score more then 14[/quote]

LJ Smith isn't too bad. DeShean Jackson is a legit deep threat and a healthy Reggie Brown had 80 yds on Sunday in Chicago. Westbrook was our focus last year and he still killed us in our house. Just sayin...

MTK 10-01-2008 08:12 PM

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LJ Smith is constantly banged up again this year and has been a non-factor.

DIRTEE 10-01-2008 08:17 PM

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[quote=4mrusmc;484129]I think that this game will be a coming out party for one of our rookie wideouts. [/quote]

I think the next four games will be the coming out party for the rookie WRs and TE. The more Moss and ARE find themselves fielding punts, the more formations the rookies should be in.

CRedskinsRule 10-01-2008 08:23 PM

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[quote=mlmpetert;484025]
Also with the eagles secondary I think JC has a good chance of making his first int. Hopefully not, but it will be key to see how we respond with a major momentem killer, as we have yet to really have one.

Another problem I see is that this [B]I expect the eagles to be the best coached team to go against so far[/B]. Plus very simular to NO offense, which we ended up getting kinda of lucky with the 3 turnovers.

Im guessing tough close game. Who ever makes the least amount of mistakes wins[/quote]

Of course I have been thinking of the Skins Eagles game ALL day/week, and the more I think about it, the more the coaching stands out as my biggest concern. Andy Reid is going to look at everything Zorn and the Skins have done to date, the good and the bad, and he will have his team ready to play.
I guess its gonna be another Sunday pacing up and down in front of the TV!

DIRTEE 10-01-2008 08:45 PM

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I expect the Eagles to rest Westbrook at least one more week if they value their season. If he's having problems cutting and breaking runs, don't play against the Skins.

BleedBurgundy 10-01-2008 08:49 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;484023]I think it will be a very close game that could come down to overtime, after that...who knows[/quote]

What? How can you make a prediction that could reasonably be conceived to not be 100% sure of a redskins victory, nay, Domination? You are not a true fan. You should go find a cowboys board and post there. Blaaaahhahhahahha.





Sorry, just had to.

BleedBurgundy 10-01-2008 08:51 PM

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I'm afraid that JC's first turnover comes in Week 5. Depends on how he reacts to that. If he keeps calm and puts it behind him, we'll be fine, if he gets rattled and erratic, we're probably screwed. I'd love to see CP in the same form he was last Sunday. Absolute beast. Prediction: Skins 28 Eagles 17. 100+ for CP.

LandrySlice 10-01-2008 08:58 PM

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they will run with Portis more this week to keep the pressure off of JC, but they will still use ARE and Moss to spread the field and keep the D Honest. I do think Devin Eleven will have a break out game, and we will not see much out of Kelly till next year. Just my thoughts, but this is the team I hate almost as much as Dallas. GO SKINS AND GO GREG NOVIS!

TheSmurfs22 10-01-2008 09:05 PM

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This game makes me more nervous than last week's, maybe because I have a certain expectation that we can win this one. It is going to be a typicl NFC grudge match.

4mrusmc 10-01-2008 09:17 PM

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Please God let this team be for real. I think it's been referenced in a thread before, but the past four years this team has gone 3-1 three out of the four years to start the season. Then, unexplicably fall in some kind of midseason funk that crushes our hopes and aspirations. Only to save us from utter despair, and play crazy inspired football that keeps us on edge towards the end of the season.

I for one, would like to see this team play for homefield advantage towards the end of the season. I know it's too early to be talking about the p-word, but one can only hope.

DirtyLandry 10-01-2008 09:21 PM

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Killadelphia. Shut them up just like all the Romosexuals. Brotherly love my ass.

4mrusmc 10-01-2008 09:21 PM

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I also can't help but think that the eagles were the last team that S. Taylor played against. Hopefully this team can channel that memory of Sean to inspire them in this important divisional game.

GMScud 10-01-2008 10:07 PM

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[quote=4mrusmc;484164]Please God let this team be for real. I think it's been referenced in a thread before, but the past four years this team has gone 3-1 three out of the four years to start the season. [B] Then, unexplicably fall in some kind of midseason funk[/B] that crushes our hopes and aspirations. Only to save us from utter despair, and play crazy inspired football that keeps us on edge towards the end of the season.

I for one, would like to see this team play for homefield advantage towards the end of the season. I know it's too early to be talking about the p-word, but one can only hope.[/quote]

I honestly think part of that had to do with Gibbs. If we got up 3-0 in a game he'd be content to run the ball into the ground. Plus he was so tightly wound, and a coaches attitude often translates into how the team plays on Sundays. I think Joe got this team headed in the right direction as far as personnel and getting Danny in line, but I also think his style and attitude of coaching was hard for the players to live up to for 17 weeks. Thus the drastic ebbs and flows we went through during his second tenure. We're loose and having fun now (not to the arrogant extent of Cowgirls, but still). I think that makes a difference. Portis said it himself, under Gibbs it was always so tight, so serious, always all about not letting down this Hall of Fame hero.

SmootSmack 10-01-2008 10:25 PM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;484153]What? How can you make a prediction that could reasonably be conceived to not be 100% sure of a redskins victory, nay, Domination? You are not a true fan. You should go find a cowboys board and post there. Blaaaahhahhahahha.





Sorry, just had to.[/quote]

LOL. Touche. I've had the same prediction four weeks running now

SFREDSKIN 10-01-2008 11:07 PM

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Our OL needs to do what they did last week, contol the running game and the pass rushers. Our DL needs to put pressure on McNabb. I would start Horton over Doughty, i watched the last Dallas drive and saw Doughty get burned 3 straight times, 2 by Witten and 1 by Miles Austin for a TD. The Philly receivers are good, not great and should be respected, especially the rookie who could be dangerous..

DirtyLandry 10-01-2008 11:11 PM

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[quote=GMScud;484175]I honestly think part of that had to do with Gibbs. If we got up 3-0 in a game he'd be content to run the ball into the ground. Plus he was so tightly wound, and a coaches attitude often translates into how the team plays on Sundays. I think Joe got this team headed in the right direction as far as personnel and getting Danny in line, but I also think his style and attitude of coaching was hard for the players to live up to for 17 weeks. Thus the drastic ebbs and flows we went through during his second tenure. We're loose and having fun now (not to the arrogant extent of Cowgirls, but still). I think that makes a difference. Portis said it himself, under Gibbs it was always so tight, so serious, always all about not letting down this Hall of Fame hero.[/quote]

I couldn't agree more. This team is vastly underrated in large part because they were handcuffed for the last 4 years.

The Goat 10-02-2008 12:27 AM

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Since this isn't the official prediction thread (right?) I'm gonna sandbag a little longer.

There are three themes for this game I expect to emerge: 1) First and foremost this will be a coaching chess match. Reid will have studied his brains out finding our weakness on both sides of the ball and look to exploit everything he can. Zorn will do the same, and while he's at an experience disadvantage IMHO he has a bit of an overall advantage because I believe win or lose we have the more talented roster; 2) Highly unlikely the Eagles score more than 13 or 14 points - our defense is locked in right now and we haven't even seen Landry break-out yet, which I predict happens this Sunday and I'm talking INT action and some highlight worthy hits; 3) our d-line got no pressure on Romo and I'm sure no respect from Blache this week - I expect them to come out swingin against Philly even w/o the services of JT.

johnerotten 10-02-2008 08:18 AM

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all the guys on inside the nfl said the skins were gonna get beat at philly this week,they also said it last week too.

memphisskin 10-02-2008 09:05 AM

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Philly always causes us problems. Its not just McNabb and Westbrook, heck Reggie Brown has torched us in the past as well. Then there's the blitz. I see a tough game, Philly is very familiar with the WCO and I anticipate them doing some things to confuse Campbell. Hopefully Cooley can break out, low scoring game with whichever team can force turnovers coming out on top.

Monkeydad 10-02-2008 09:31 AM

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[quote=DirtyLandry;484192]I couldn't agree more. This team is vastly underrated in large part because they were handcuffed for the last 4 years.[/quote]

To Gibbs' credit, that worked great his first time around. The game changed when he was away, the way it is played. It's not his fault, but he didn't adapt as well as he should have. He's still one of the greatest NFL coaches ever and he's a HOFer.

Gibbs DID bring respect back to the Skins and set up up for future success though, we were in the toilet after he left the first time.

doughtydoubter 10-02-2008 10:50 AM

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This game should be a great, physical, one. philly fighting to remain out of the cellar, and the skins looking to secure another division win. I think this game has the possibility of being a better fought out one than last weeks.
i dislike philly but over the years have grown a great respect for Mcnabb and Reid. both those guys ooze class and ethics. Always a tough matchup

CampbellforMVP 10-02-2008 11:10 AM

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If westbrook doesnt play im going to have to call a blowout,if he does we come out 20-10. O blow out score,28-3. They get FG on the 3rd team d

TheMalcolmConnection 10-02-2008 11:20 AM

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[quote=CampbellforMVP;484295]If westbrook doesnt play im going to have to call a blowout,if he does we come out 20-10. O blow out score,28-3. They get FG on the 3rd team d[/quote]

Lynchburg eh? I went to LC. Are you in school there or just live there?

hail_2_da_skins 10-02-2008 11:35 AM

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This will be a extremely tough game. Donovan McNabb and Brian Westbrook always give the Redskins trouble. It looks like the Eagles will be without one of their big weapons, Westbrook, and that may help. The Skins defense have to contain McNabb , pass rush up the middle and keep him in the pocket. When he is able to escape to the outside, he creates big plays. Covering DeSean Jackson is also a priority. Jackson is also dangerous on special teams. The biggest concern is the Redskin offensive line versus Philly's blitz packages. Zorn will need to dial up a good mix of runs and passes with effective hot reads. Jason Campbell will need to continue to be efficient and make quick reads and get rid of the ball quickly. Turnovers will determine the outcome of this game.

Redskins 31 Eagles 24

skinsnut 10-02-2008 11:41 AM

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I know everyone here is super excited about how great the Skins are because we beat the cowgirls....other than that we had close wins against the cardinals and the saints who were injured. Perhaps I am a little cautious but...
The Eagles MUST ABSOLUTELY win this game at home...if they don't they are totally screwed. If Westbrook is practicing, he Must play this game in my opinion.
Their defense is a very good and I know they will be scheeming to jump short routes during blitzes to see if they can get a pick.

I am not going to make a prediction, but the pressure is totally on the Eagles and virtually none is on the Skins....however, if the Skins win this game, which is inconstant with this teams mid year performances in the past few years, I will officially jump on the Kool Aid bandwagon....ps...I still voted a 3 in confidence in Zorn so I realize I am a skeptic. Go Skins....steal one from a desperate Philly for us!

Monkeydad 10-02-2008 12:57 PM

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I heard an interview with Zorn this morning talking about his first game in Philly as Seattle's rookie QB. They were standing in a huddle on the sidelines during a timeout and one of the linemen yelled "OUCH!!!!!"

An Eagles fan shot him in the leg with a pellet gun. Zorn said "everyone keep your helmets on!" :rofl:

He was always a leader. :D

SouperMeister 10-02-2008 01:00 PM

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If we win this game, with back to back road wins at Dallas and Philly, we are looking at a team that could be very special. I love seeing our team make noise in the ultra competitive NFC East.

Monkeydad 10-02-2008 01:05 PM

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FOR THE STORY - go to [url=http://comcastsportsnet.tv/pages/sportsrise]comcastsportsnet.tv - sportsrise[/url]

Under the video player, click on "Redskins: Jim Zorn shares a crazy story from his playing days--10/1"

Hog1 10-02-2008 01:33 PM

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[quote=skinsnut;484305]I know everyone here is super excited about how great the Skins are because we beat the cowgirls....other than that we had close wins against the cardinals and the saints who were injured. Perhaps I am a little cautious but...
The Eagles MUST ABSOLUTELY win this game at home...if they don't they are totally screwed. If Westbrook is practicing, he Must play this game in my opinion.
Their defense is a very good and I know they will be scheeming to jump short routes during blitzes to see if they can get a pick.

I am not going to make a prediction, but the pressure is totally on the Eagles and virtually none is on the Skins....however, if the Skins win this game, which is inconstant with this teams mid year performances in the past few years, I will officially jump on the Kool Aid bandwagon....ps...I still voted a 3 in confidence in Zorn so I realize I am a skeptic. Go Skins....steal one from a desperate Philly for us![/quote]

Correct, Eagles have to win this division game
AND Mcnabb is healthy and playing better than I have seen him in...maybe ever.
BUT, make no mistake........Skins WILL win!
HTTR

PhillyFanInDeadSkinLand 10-02-2008 03:57 PM

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Dear Redskin fans,
I can understand your excitedness over this year's wins especially the one over the cowgirls, but make no mistake..Reid and company will have an answer to JC's no-turnover season. Philly's D ranks first in sacks (17) and third in total ypg (245). There are also 5 fumbles recovered of 7. Im not stating who will win, but that sunday's game marks the beginning of JC turnovers.
Some Note Worthies:
1. Some good match ups to watch are JJ vs. Juqua Parker (DE) and the reverse, Carter vs. Tra Thomas. Who will own who?
2. True, DeSean Jackson IS good for one bone head play sunday. But be honest, hasnt he performed better than most rookie WRs this year, if not most vets?
3. Buckhalter is no Westbrook. I needn't say more.

Hurry up Sunday, we can't wait any longer.

hooskins 10-02-2008 04:05 PM

Re: Thoughts on Eagles/Redskins
 
[quote=PhillyFanInDeadSkinLand;484497]Dear Redskin fans,
I can understand your excitedness over this year's wins especially the one over the cowgirls, but make no mistake..Reid and company will have an answer to JC's no-turnover season. Philly's D ranks first in sacks (17) and third in total ypg (245). There are also 5 fumbles recovered of 7. Im not stating who will win, [B]but that sunday's game marks the beginning of JC turnovers. [/B]
Some Note Worthies:
1. Some good match ups to watch are JJ vs. Juqua Parker (DE) and the reverse, Carter vs. Tra Thomas. Who will own who?
2. True, DeSean Jackson IS good for one bone head play sunday. But be honest, hasnt he performed better than most rookie WRs this year, if not most vets?
3. Buckhalter is no Westbrook. I needn't say more.

Hurry up Sunday, we can't wait any longer.[/quote]

While I agree your D will bring the heat, sack JC, rush some throws, but I dont see how you can make a blanket statement that JC will throw a pick.

That is arrogance, and I really hope we don't turn it over mainly to make people like you suffer for your hubris. Otherwise I agree with everything else.

Jake2008 10-02-2008 04:42 PM

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I actually think this game will be tougher then the Cowgirls game for these reasons.

1. It is hard to win back to back road games against quality opponents.
2. There is often some letdown after getting all hyped up to beat the girls and then going into their house and winning a close game and trying to keep that up the next week.
3. Philly is a tough stadium to play in.
4. This will be by far the toughest defense JC has faced and I am not sure our OL will be able to hold up which will require Portis and Cooley to help out and this could kill our offense. I think they will blitz the crap out of JC.

I think this is going to be a fun game to watch and will come down to turnovers. If JC can handle the pressure then we will win. If they get to him, then it will be a long day.


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