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they just said, after this lose it sets up a must win v.s. the skins. we need to win tomorrow and put it to the cowboys after the bye.

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[quote=redskins5044;496296]they just said, after this lose it sets up a must win v.s. the skins. we need to win tomorrow and put it to the cowboys after the bye.[/quote]

They'll be pressing. Their heads must be totally screwed right now.

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The Skins need to get the job done tomorrow and go into the bye 7-2. Going to be a very tough game tomorrow!

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Dallas is now all alone in the basement of the East. Love it.

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I don't know how they can come back from this. I think it's safe to assume their season is done.

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[quote=saden1;496320]I don't know how they can come back from this. I think it's safe to assume their season is done.[/quote]


This is the same stuff said after the Giants started 0-2 last year and had given up eighty points on D in 2 games.

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[quote=Giantone;496321]This is the same stuff said after the Giants started 0-2 last year and had given up eighty points on D in 2 games.[/quote]


Dallas really looks bad offensively and defensively and I'm just not sure it's easily fixable. I see this and I don't see many wins:

@ Washington
San Francisco
Seattle
@ Pittsburgh
NY Giants
Baltimore
@ Philadelphia

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The Giants had Couglin lighting a fire under them plus his job was in jeaoprdy, he had to make changes. Plus he is a hard nosed coach that likes physical football. Wade ain't like that. I have a fork for the cowgirls.

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[quote=Giantone;496321]This is the same stuff said after the Giants started 0-2 last year and had given up eighty points on D in 2 games.[/quote]

Dallas could bounce back. They've got a winning record and half of the season left. But right now Giantone, they look like they've given up.

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[quote=Giantone;496321]This is the same stuff said after the Giants started 0-2 last year and had given up eighty points on D in 2 games.[/quote]

Kinda different circumstances. The Giants still had 14 games to right the ship, the margin for error right now for Dallas is slim. You've gotta figure they would need to get to 10 wins to have a realistic playoff shot. That means they would need to go 5-2 over their last 7. Can they do it? It's possible, but that's not an easy road. Romo coming back is not the magic answer for their woes right now either, they weren't playing that great when he was healthy.

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Other than injuries, some credit to why this team has been in a total slump should go to the redskins. Think about it, we went into dallas to play this undefeated team who had blown out cleveland (who at that point we still thought were good), then won the shoot out with philly. When we beat them we exposed their weaknesses, and ta-da, now they are 5-4, in last, and in desperate need of Romo.

Does anybody else notice the similarities between dallas and philly right now? Both started their season off loking like the best in the league, lost their mvp, and are struggling.

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philly is playing very well now though!if there has been 1 thing i have learned in HATING dallas all these years,that would be to never count them out!

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[quote=cdskins26;496345]Other than injuries, some credit to why this team has been in a total slump should go to the redskins. Think about it, we went into dallas to play this undefeated team who had blown out cleveland (who at that point we still thought were good), then won the shoot out with philly. When we beat them we exposed their weaknesses, and ta-da, now they are 5-4, in last, and in desperate need of Romo.

Does anybody else notice the similarities between dallas and philly right now? Both started their season off loking like the best in the league, lost their mvp, and are struggling.[/quote]

I think it's a worthy point that the Redskins exposed the Cowboys in that matchup. But more than anything I think they're just not a very good "team". They have a lot of talent but they're not fundamentally sound, and they have too many stars and not enough of those blue collar role player types that make up the backbone of any good team. And I think Phillips is a weak head coach who coddles the players too much.

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Yesterday my buddy came by and we had the Dallas/Giants game on. I think toward the end of the half the Giants had a run and I pointed out to my buddy it seemed that the Boys were scared to hit anyone and playing very weak. I had to get something from the house and he said that Akman showed the replay and pointed out the same thing I noticed. It would not surprise me one bit that after we beat them in a few weeks that they will switch head coaches.

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Careful they may take a page from the Rams book and fire Wade before the bye...

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[quote=Mattyk72;496366]I think it's a worthy point that the Redskins exposed the Cowboys in that matchup. But more than anything I think they're just not a very good "team". They have a lot of talent but they're not fundamentally sound, and they have too many stars and not enough of those blue collar role player types that make up the backbone of any good team. And I think Phillips is a weak head coach who coddles the players too much.[/quote]

Do you think the cowboys will try to go after someone like Holmgren or Cowher? I think they only have Phillips to keep TO from getting frustrated because he is getting chewed out by a [I]real[/I] coach.

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[quote=cdskins26;496379]Do you think the cowboys will try to go after someone like Holmgren or Cowher? I think they only have Phillips to keep TO from getting frustrated because he is getting chewed out by a [I]real[/I] coach.[/quote]

I doubt it, I'm not sure Jones is ready to go back to a tough HC that wants a strong say in things like Parcells. I think Garrett will get the job so Jones can continue with his meddling ways.

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I think JJ runs out the season with Wade, they miss the playoffs, and then he gets whacked.

But I'm not so certain that Jason Garrett is the head coach in waiting. If Romo returns and the OL continues to struggle, they'll probably look outside the organization.

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[quote=Mattyk72;496381]I doubt it, I'm not sure Jones is ready to go back to a tough HC that wants a strong say in things like Parcells. I think Garrett will get the job so Jones can continue with his meddling ways.[/quote]

Excellent, continue the cowboy struggle.:)

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Right now Jason Garrett is catching a lot of flack along with the rest of the organization. Somehow the word ORGANIZATION seems odd when talking about the Dallas Cowboys.

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[quote=53Fan;496386]Right now Jason Garrett is catching a lot of flack along with the rest of the organization. Somehow the word ORGANIZATION seems odd when talking about the Dallas Cowboys.[/quote]

Well you couldn't exactly say that Jason Garrett is catching a lot of flack along with the rest of the mass chaos. TO is the problem, he is a fantastic player, but no matter how much better he makes your team talentwise, he is still an mouthy mental-head case who either needs to retire or shut up. I saw his childrens book [U][B]Little T Learns to Share[/B][/U] and the sequel, [U][B]Big T Forgets How to Share[/B][/U] He is tearing their franchise limb from limb.

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[B][/B][quote=cdskins26;496391]WELL YOU COULD"NT EXACTLY SAY THAT JASON GARRETT IS CATCHING A LOT OF FLACK along with the rest of the mass chaos. TO is the problem, he is a fantastic player, but no matter how much better he makes your team talentwise, he is still an mouthy mental-head case who either needs to retire or shut up. I saw his childrens book [U][B]Little T Learns to Share[/B][/U] and the sequel, [U][B]Big T Forgets How to Share[/B][/U] He is tearing their franchise limb from limb.[/quote]

Well I don't disagree with you about T.O. But I've been watching First Take on ESPN2 and Jason Garrett IS catching a lot of flack. By fans and some of the commentators. He calls the offense and a lot of people are wondering why he can't get T.O. the ball. That's not my opinon, it's what I'm seeing and hearing.

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[quote=53Fan;496400][B][/B]

Well I don't disagree with you about T.O. But I've been watching First Take on ESPN2 and Jason Garrett IS catching a lot of flack. By fans and some of the commentators. He calls the offense and a lot of people are wondering why he can't get T.O. the ball. That's not my opinon, it's what I'm seeing and hearing.[/quote]

I didn't mean it like that, Garret is taking a lot of flack, when i said you couldn't say..., i was talking about the expression organization.

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Gotcha. Sorry dude.

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Thanks but you dont need to apologize to camp scrubbers.

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[quote=Mattyk72;496381]I doubt it, I'm not sure Jones is ready to go back to a tough HC that wants a strong say in things like Parcells. [B]I think Garrett will get the job so Jones can continue with his meddling ways[/B].[/quote]

I hope that's the case. If their season continues down this path, they'd be foolish not to make a run at Bill Cowher. But they've been foolish so far, so hopefully that continues.

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Cowher is probably going to want some sort of front office power. I don't see Jones giving that up.

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[quote=Mattyk72;496426]Cowher is probably going to want some sort of front office power. I don't see Jones giving that up.[/quote]

He won't give that up. Too hard headed and egotistical. Again, they've been foolish up to this point, and I really hope they continue to do so. Jason Garrett will be just another puppet for Jones to play with.

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[quote=SmootSmack;496242]The Fox affiliate up here in CT just left the Titans game as they lined up for their game-winning FG.[/quote]

Yeah, they did that in PA too to show the flippin' Eagles/Seahawks start.

STUPID.



Dallas in last place now!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D

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[quote=Giantone;496321]This is the same stuff said after the Giants started 0-2 last year and had given up eighty points on D in 2 games.[/quote]

Yes, but we're halfway through the season and Dallas is still giving up those kinds of points! :)

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When the owner does post game press-conference after every game it's kinda hard to see him give up any sort of power. Then again money talks and Jones pays pretty big bucks.

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[quote=Giantone;496321]This is the same stuff said after the Giants started 0-2 last year and had given up eighty points on D in 2 games.[/quote]Yeah, but do realize that if the Redskins and Eagles were as good last year as they are this year, the Giants finish 8-8, in last place, and don't even make the playoffs.

That's exactly the best case scenario for Dallas, and thats assuming they do get it turned around and don't lose to SF or SEA (they are 0-2 against the NFC West thus far).

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Anyone catch the Thursday night game b/t Denver and Cleveland? I knew Marshall had something he was going to pull out after he scored the touch (before Stokely stopped him):

[url=http://www.gazette.com/sports/racial_42982___article.html/cleveland_glove.html]Glove celebration[/url]

If the game wasn't close, I think his teammates let him do it. The act wouldn't have had the same impact as Smith and Carlos ('68), though.

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[quote=cdskins26;496391]Well you couldn't exactly say that Jason Garrett is catching a lot of flack along with the rest of the mass chaos. TO is the problem, he is a fantastic player, but no matter how much better he makes your team talentwise, he is still an mouthy mental-head case who either needs to retire or shut up. I saw his childrens book [U][B]Little T Learns to Share[/B][/U] and the sequel, [U][B]Big T Forgets How to Share[/B][/U] He is tearing their franchise limb from limb.[/quote]

Along with Tony Homo and all his shenanigans.