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SEA L: We just cannot beat them at home.
NYG L: I think it will be very close, but we lose.
BAL L: Our offense cannot match up with their D.
CIN W: Win by the skin our teeth.
PHI W: I think we'll handle Philly.
SF W: Another close win.

Right now I have absolutely no faith in Zorn or this offense right now for us to go 4-2 down the stretch.

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[quote=Mattyk72;502000]
11/23 @ Seattle
11/30 vs NY Giants
12/7 @ Baltimore
12/14 @ Cincinnati
12/21 vs Philadelphia
12/28 @ San Francisco[/quote]
We'll make it.

11/23 SEA - Win. Zorn knows Seattle. West Coast trip or not, this will be a solid win. Plus Zorn can find Timmy K. in the press box, wave & smile as we put an ass-whippin on Seattle.
11/30 NYG - Win. IMO Zorn will have modified his playcaling due to the OL situation and an inspired Skins team will beat the Giants in a close game.
12/7 BAL - ???. While Baltimore's D is very good, their O isn't setting the world on fire either, this game could go either way. We may suffer a let-down after a big win against the Gints
12/14 CIN - Win. Cincy is bad and the weather will likely dicate a slugfest on the ground, which we should win fairly easily.
12/21 PHI - Win. The Iggles may be out of the playoff race by now and may flat out quit. IMO McNabb will continue to struggle and be the difference in giving us a close win.
12/28 SF - Loss. We should have a playoff spot locked up by now and be resting starters. If not, I still don't like this game. SF may have nothing to play for, but Singletary will not let them quit and will have them playing for pride and spots on next years team. It should be chalked as a win, but I don't like this game at all.

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I think we were neither as good as it seemed after we beat Philly and Dallas, nor are we as bad as we seem after losing to Pitt and Dallas at home.

I think we right the ship and go 4-2. But we still might miss the playoffs with that record.

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I can see us going 4-2 down the stretch without any hesitation. 3 of those teams (Cincy, SF, Seattle) have nothing to play for at this point and Philly is phading phast. The Baltimore game could easily be 9-6 and I don't look forward to the Giants matchup. Campbell is going to take a beating that day if we don't shore up the OL.

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I'm the most pessimistic person on this site but I think the redskins will win out.
[quote=Mattyk72;502000]
11/23 @ Seattle: Hasselbeck and Branch arent 100%
11/30 vs NY Giants: Rivalry game that's been lingering since week one, This will be a 9-7 game.
12/7 @ Baltimore: A close game but at this point, their players will be looking for a way to get out of town in the offseason.
12/14 @ Cincinnati: Fitzpatrick...
12/21 vs Philadelphia: Kolb will be starting...
12/28 @ San Francisco: They will have checked out by then.
[/quote]

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Lol well lets get ready for another tail end of the season charge!!! =] ha, the only game im worried about or two actually is Giants and Baltimore, like most people said we struggle against good D's and these two teams have two of the top 10 Deffense. I hope we can pull them out of our bag as victories, but that could be stretch

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I think we will be lucky to go 3-3. I think we lose to NY and the Ravens and will lose to at least one of the other 4 teams. I think teams now know to just blitz the crap out of us and I don't think there are any adjustments we can make at this point to shore this up.

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[quote=Paintrain;502083]I can see us going 4-2 down the stretch without any hesitation. [B]3 of those teams (Cincy, SF, Seattle) have nothing to play for at this point [/B]and Philly is phading phast. The Baltimore game could easily be 9-6 and I don't look forward to the Giants matchup. Campbell is going to take a beating that day if we don't shore up the OL.[/quote]

It's the NFL and all 3 of those teams have something to play for. It's called pride and it's jobs and it's called being a professional. Do you think that SF is just going to lie down with Singletary coaching them? DId you see them beat the crap out of STL, the team we lost to at home?? Plus they should've beat Ariz. SF is going to be a very tough team to beat. As is Cinn and Seattle. Cinn is playing much better now.

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[quote=firstdown;502077][B]I'll say it here first that we blow Sea out of the water this week. [/B]Our D holds them in check Portis runs for over 150 yards (unless his knee is an issue and Betts see's more time) and the passing game goes. I'll also say that one of our new Wr's scores. Heck lets have fun and the D scores one for us as they are due.[/quote]

How can you say that with a straight face??

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[quote=dmek25;502075][B]anyone that says they wouldn't have been happy with 6-4 at the point in the season, before the season started, isn't telling the truth.[/B] the redskins will be favored in 3 of those games. and will win the 4th, to get into the playoffs. there, i said it. i never make predictions like this. but looking at the talent we have, all that needs to be done is coach Buges working on consistency. might be time to get Mr. Heyer back into the line up[/quote]

I'm happy. I think we're going to end up 9-7 or 8-8. Even if we make the playoffs I just don't see us going anywhere simply because we can't score any points.

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[quote=skinsfan69;502095]I'm happy. I think we're going to end up 9-7 or 8-8. Even if we make the playoffs I just don't see us going anywhere simply because we can't score any points.[/quote]

I agree with you, im also glad we are 6-4 who exactly execpted us to start of as good as we did? Defiently not me

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the only two games we whave a prob with is ravens and giants maybe jacobs will be out of commission then but the other games i think we will be ok if our o-line steps up

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;502042]For me, [B]I think it's time to pull out the stops.[/B] We were talking about saving Moss for the playoffs and those look like they might be slipping away. I'd really like to see him back there a lot more often now until the offense starts showing they can score more than 10-15 points a game.[/quote]

No doubt. The pace of our offense has been downright awful. We need more crisp, uptempo playcalling, with maybe a little more shotgun involved. Like JC said on Doc Walker today, we have to get back to the offense we were calling during the 4 game win streak.

4 of these last 6 games are road games. With Hasselbeck back for Seattle, they are a lot better than their lousy record suggests, and that stadium is a tough place to play.

We really wet the bed losing 3 out of our last 4 at home. It's tough to win on the road in this league. I think we'll be lucky to go 4-2, with 3-3 more likely IMO.

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[quote=MiraclesHappen07;502096]I agree with you, im also glad we are 6-4 who exactly execpted us to start of as good as we did? Defiently not me[/quote]

i thought we were going to be 5-11 to 6-10 and the defense was going to fall apart. turns out the defense has kept us in every game this year as they've done 3 out of the last 4 years.

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[quote=dmek25;502075][B]anyone that says they wouldn't have been happy with 6-4 at the point in the season, before the season started, isn't telling the truth.[/B] the redskins will be favored in 3 of those games. and will win the 4th, to get into the playoffs. there, i said it. i never make predictions like this. but looking at the talent we have, all that needs to be done is coach Buges working on consistency. might be time to get Mr. Heyer back into the line up[/quote]

Of course you're right, but after seeing what we're capable of during that 4 game tear, adjustments were made to our expectations, and justifiably so.

So yes, overall big picture, 6-4 doesn't seem bad. But we can't win at home, we've lost 3 out of 5 overall, and the offense is in the tank. So it's not a happy 6-4 at all right now.

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[quote=firstdown;502077][B]I'll say it here first that we blow Sea out of the water this week.[/B] Our D holds them in check Portis runs for over 150 yards (unless his knee is an issue and Betts see's more time) and the passing game goes. I'll also say that one of our new Wr's scores. Heck lets have fun and the D scores one for us as they are due.[/quote]

When do we EVER blow anyone out of the water? It hasn't happened since last season's Detroit game. Remember, a lot of us were calling for blowout three straight weeks vs St. Louis, Cle, and Det. No luck there. We have 6 offensive TDs in our last 5 games. Something MAJOR would have to change for a blowout to happen. Maybe a defensive TD or two as you say.

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[quote=GMScud;502104]When do we EVER blow anyone out of the water? It hasn't happened since last season's Detroit game. Remember, a lot of us were calling for blowout three straight weeks vs St. Louis, Cle, and Det. No luck there. We have 6 offensive TDs in our last 5 games. Something MAJOR would have to change for a blowout to happen. Maybe a defensive TD or two as you say.[/quote]

Don't know I just have that feeling that its a blow out against Sea. I think our Oline comes up big in this game because they have alot of pride and they will reverse this trend. Its a great game for that with Sea's D ranked 25th or worse in the 3 major categories. So Mat is back our D is not the problem right now and they will hold Sea to under 14 points.

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[quote=firstdown;502119]Don't know I just have that feeling that its a blow out against Sea. I think our Oline comes up big in this game because they have alot of pride and they will reverse this trend. Its a great game for that with [B]Sea's D ranked 25th or worse in the 3 major categories[/B]. So Mat is back our D is not the problem right now and they will hold Sea to under 14 points.[/quote]

On paper that sounds nice, but Detroit, St. Louis, and Cleveland are all lousy defensive teams, and we didn't exactly light them up either. Well, we had a lot of yards, but didn't turn them into points.

I totally appreciate your optimism, but I'm not going to believe we're capable of a blowout until I see one.

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[quote=GMScud;502104]When do we EVER blow anyone out of the water? It hasn't happened since last season's Detroit game. Remember, a lot of us were calling for blowout three straight weeks vs St. Louis, Cle, and Det. No luck there. We have 6 offensive TDs in our last 5 games. Something MAJOR would have to change for a blowout to happen. Maybe a defensive TD or two as you say.[/quote]

It amazes me that people actually think we're going to blow anyone out when we lost to the Rams and barely beat Det.

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I think we beat SEA, CIN, SF.....lose either NYG or BAL...perhaps both....and the Philly game is a toss up.

Every time I count the Redskins out they come out and prove me wrong, im done doubting this team after the '05 and '07 runs.

I predict a 4-2 finish but will it be good enough for the playoffs...that im not so sure about.

That Rams game is the one that I think will haunt us the most at the end of the year...a gimmee game that we flat out blew.

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I keep hearing we are going to lose to Seattle. Outside of the 2 playoff games we have only lost there once before and that was 10 years ago. The Skins have the head to head match up 9-4. This is not the team we lost to in the playoffs and there is no reason to think we can't win there.

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Yeah we can, if our offensive can get in gear. Only things that worry me are:

1. We have two west coast trips
2. We have the Giants on the schedule, however that'll be the first game after the year aniversary of Sean Taylor's death. (May he rest in peace.) Hopefully the team will be pumped up.
3. The Ravens defense is really stout

With all that said the Redskins always come on strong at the end of the year. In 05 with Brunell at the helm and last season with Todd Collins doing a superb job. It'll be interesting to see if the team does fall behind if Campbell can play Super Man and lead us to the playoffs. I predict 10 wins though.

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[quote=mredskins;502004]I hate to say it but it doesn't look good and to think we were so high just a few weeks ago. This team is as bad as the 7-1 Turner team that end up crumbling. Why can't we have any offense in Washington?

[B][I]"Are you ready for the offseason???"[/I][/B] -Sung to MNF theme song by Hank Jr.

What a sad sad year. =([/quote]

No pass blocking, no offense. Simple

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Call me crazy but I really think we are going to beat the Giants. To be honest, I am really worried about this week's game. We are playing a scrappy team with nothing to lose in a venue we have gotten crushed in. Seattle, while I believe 2-8, has been playing better. This is the kind of game we have found a way to lose in the past (think Oakland in 05, Buffalo last year) putting ourselves in these must win-out situations at the end of seasons. I hope against hope that we take care of business this year.

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My head tells me we go 2-4 but I want to be wrong:

L: Seattle, NY, Baltimore, Philly. I think we lose to Seattle this weekend because Zorn is losing the tactical battle game after game and Holmgren will be in Zorn's head all game long. Actually think this game is going to be very ugly for us & raise a lot of eyebrows. NY and Baltimore are just better football teams. Philly plays very tough @ end of season regardless of record and I think by then we'll be long out of the playoff mix.

W: Cinci, SanFran. Cinci should be in the bag. SanFran is actually playing some tough football now and I highly doubt the game will mean dick to us... could go either way but I am loath to predict 1-5.

Either way it's time to start thinking seriously about next year. Like ya'll have said we wouldn't be competitive in the playoffs anyway because our offense is so inferior. My biggest concern is the work the FO has cut out for itself to infuse the o and d lines w/ young talent and to find/develop at least one more serious threat on offense. I just don't have faith Vinny or Danny or whoever the hell is really pulling the trigger during free agency and the draft.

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I don't know if it's my will not to give up or what, but even on paper I can't predict the Skins not to go to the playoffs. Maybe it's a character defect I have, but I know in my heart we can win these games. There is nobody on our schedule that we cannot beat with the right play calling and execution. I cannot count the times the Skins have broke my heart but they have surprised me beyond belief also. I'm not going to pick specific games but I say we win at least 4 out of 6 and go to the playoffs.

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[quote=53Fan;502204]I don't know if it's my will not to give up or what, but even on paper I can't predict the Skins not to go to the playoffs. Maybe it's a character defect I have, but I know in my heart we can win these games. There is nobody on our schedule that we cannot beat with the right play calling and execution. I cannot count the times the Skins have broke my heart but they have surprised me beyond belief also. I'm not going to pick specific games but I say we win at least 4 out of 6 and go to the playoffs.[/quote]

That's cheating dude, you have to pick:)

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[quote=The Goat;502207]That's cheating dude, you have to pick:)[/quote]

Give me a break Goat. :cool-smil

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I see us beating Seattle, Cincy, and SF. Then I think we'll win 1 other, most likely philly. Of course, we have to play better, but I think Seattle is a good place to turn things around. Don't underestimate the Zorn factor. He was Mr. Seattle for a long time--it's going to be a big thing for him (whatever he says) and the team is going to be fired up to get him the W.

I have a feeling the gints are going to come out flat against us. We still may not win it, but I doubt it'll be a walkover. The Ravens will be tough as well. The double west coast thing is pretty brutal, but both those teams are not very good. Yes, I know, we're not very good right now either. But even decent football will win out west this year.

Just get it turned around. Obviously Seattle is a huge game. Also huge will be recovering if we lose back to back to the gints and ravens. My guess is some folks here will be ready to trade the team and fire the coach at that point. But it's not a bad schedule to get to 10-6, all things considered. Seattle, Cincy, and SF are winnable. Then it's just one more.

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2 losses and everyone is ready to start planning the off-season you say that because its a road game we will lose but we have only lost one game on the road this season against the giants, plus the Rams beat us at home. I see us going in there and man handling the Seahawks to the tune of 38-14 we score 2 4th quarter TDs on defense

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[quote=The Goat;502207]That's cheating dude, you have to pick:)[/quote]

The way we've played this year we may lose to Cincy and San Fran and beat the Ravens and Giants. I don't care how we get it as long as we get it. HAIL REDSKINS!!!

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;502080]11/30 NYG - Win. IMO Zorn will have modified his playcaling due to the OL situation and an inspired Skins team will beat the Giants in a close game.[/quote]When I look at the Giants schedule I think, "Tough stretch of games, but they are better than all of these teams." Would I love them to finish 15-1? Of course, but would it shock me if they lose one or two down the stretch? No. The Skins game is one I could see them dropping and possibly Minnesota. The Giants are also A LOT better than Cleveland, but the Browns were better on that Monday Night.

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[quote=coggs;502356]When I look at the Giants schedule I think, "Tough stretch of games, but they are better than all of these teams." Would I love them to finish 15-1? Of course, but would it shock me if they lose one or two down the stretch? No. The Skins game is one I could see them dropping and possibly Minnesota. The Giants are also A LOT better than Cleveland, but the Browns were better on that Monday Night.[/quote]

If Eli throws us 3 picks like he did in Cleveland, that would be nice! I do think the gints may lose focus a bit as they look ahead to the playoffs. Also, we've looked bad on all the national night games we played, so it's easy to overlook us (maybe with reason, right now!). But if your D and run game continue to roll, ugh.

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Don't count out our guys against the Giants. It's Sean's day and they'll be playing with a lot of emotion.

Remember when Wellington Mara died and the inferior (at that time) Giants team crushed us 35-0?

Sean Taylor could carry them to a win. He meant much more than an owner may have, he was on the field with them.

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[quote=53Fan;502295]The way we've played this year we may lose to Cincy and San Fran and beat the Ravens and Giants. [/quote]Hahaha. Just call it!

There's no penalty for guessing wrong ;)

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[quote=Buster;502461]Don't count out our guys against the Giants. It's Sean's day and they'll be playing with a lot of emotion.

Remember when Wellington Mara died and the inferior (at that time) Giants team crushed us 35-0?

Sean Taylor could carry them to a win. He meant much more than an owner may have, he was on the field with them.[/quote]

I agree. In any normal game I think we're definitely overmatched by the Giants, but this particular game could be special.

Of all our remaining games, I think we blow one we should win (maybe Cincy or San Fran), but somehow pull one off against the Giants. Hopefully the ghost of ST will swoop down and crush Plexiglass.

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After looking at the numbers, this is a very crucial game for us. I have not factored in other games played this Sunday. If we win this game we have a 49% chance of not making the playoffs (we sit in the 6th spot right now and control our own destiny) and if we lose the next game we jump to 76% chance of not making it.

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[quote=GTripp0012;502489]Hahaha. Just call it!

There's no penalty for guessing wrong ;)[/quote]

Alright, here we go. Seattle-W NY-W Baltimore-L Cincinatti-W Philly-W San Francisco-W ...The only advantage I see for Seattle is crowd noise. Other teams have won there and we owe them one...We need it more than the Giants and will have some surprises for them... Our defense is better than the Ravens offense but their defense could give us problems and win the game for them at their place... Donovan finds out who the best team really is... San Francisco... have we locked up a playoff spot yet? That should'nt, but could make a difference. I would'nt bet on these picks but this is what I'm going with. By the way, another Deep Creek grad plays on the Seahawks. #55 Darryl Tapp DE.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;502010]I think we most definitely have to take out Philly and then ten wins will look better for the playoffs. If we can handle Seattle, Philly, SF and Baltimore, we're gonna' be doing good.

I'm most nervous about stinkin' ass Baltimore. The way we play against good defenses this year is very discouraging.[/quote]


I agree, but Seattle will probably give us an indication of we are playoff bound. We get beat by the Seahawks, then all bets are off in my mind. Every game from then, with the exception of the Bengals is a potential loss. Our defense is solid, but it can't put points on the board. Our offense is horrible now. Starting to think the WCO sucks!!!!!

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[quote=53Fan;502576]Alright, here we go. Seattle-W NY-W Baltimore-L Cincinatti-W Philly-W San Francisco-W ...The only advantage I see for Seattle is crowd noise. Other teams have won there and we owe them one...We need it more than the Giants and will have some surprises for them... Our defense is better than the Ravens offense but their defense could give us problems and win the game for them at their place... Donovan finds out who the best team really is... San Francisco... have we locked up a playoff spot yet? That should'nt, but could make a difference. I would'nt bet on these picks but this is what I'm going with. By the way, another Deep Creek grad plays on the Seahawks. #55 Darryl Tapp DE.[/quote]

A loss to Baltimore, but you have us beating the Giants? Gmen are a complete team and defensively just as impressive as the Ravens statistically, if not better. If we lost to the Boys at Fedex, do you really think we will beat the Gmen? Fedex isn't RFK. It is almost as bad as the Pontiac Silverdome or Ford Field. Anyone can win there!!!!!!