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[quote=Dirtbag359;513067]Maybe it's just mental masturbation but how wonderful would it be to add Peppers and Haynesworth to our line. Right now we have the potential to clear about $24 million in cap room which should be more then enough to sign both of them a top tier free agent lineman like Gross and resign Hall and Rogers to long term deals with low cap numbers in 2009. Especially with an uncapped year on the horizon. God I know it's highly unlikely but Haynesworth would give us a huge push up the middle while Peppers would give us someone big enough to play the Left side and get after the passer.

Man I really have gone crazy.[/quote]


Not Crazy, highly hopeful maybe though. Haynesworth would definetly be #1 on my FA list.

Re: Gregg Williams out in J-Ville
 

[quote=Skins4L;513040]i think he couldnt get it goin in Jacksonville because of personell...they had severe secondary issues (Rashean Mathis also injured later in the year). I think our D would have flourished if we woulda kept his system. BRING EM BACK! BRING EM BACK!

The WHOLE coaching staff would be in jeopardy if i was owner.

And i believe the team needs to stick to coaches for several years to get a good feel. But i dont believe we found our guys this season. So how can you be cohesive? I say...
[B]Cowher- Head Coach
G Williams- D Coordinator
Zorn- QB Coach (solely for the Development of Campbell in `10)[/B][/quote]

This is so unrealistic, do you really believe that could be the coaching staff next year?

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[quote=Mattyk72;511024]They've had a rough year all around in Jax, I wonder if Del Rio could be next.[/quote]


I would bet a paycheck that Del Rio gets canned. Jacksonville was supposed to be in the thick of the SB hunt this year. They lost all those linemen early and BAM!!!!!!

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[quote=SmootSmack;512892]True, although some say that he changed, or at least tempered, his abrasive personality during his years with Gibbs. I think even Williams himself has admitted as much.

I doubt Williams will return here, but it's not entirely out the realm of possibility. In fact, I would say I wouldn't at all be surprised. He still has a tight bond with the players. Contrary to popular belief, he and Snyder get along fine and if Zorn were to be let go (which I think is probably at around 80% right now) then there are only a couple of coaches out there who Snyder could go after that would be able to mitigate, to some extent, the pr damage that would be done if Zorn was not the coach next season (whatever the reason may be).[/quote]

Cowher baby Cowher!!!!!!!!

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[quote=Skins4L;513040]i think he couldnt get it goin in Jacksonville because of personell...they had severe secondary issues (Rashean Mathis also injured later in the year). I think our D would have flourished if we woulda kept his system. BRING EM BACK! BRING EM BACK!

The WHOLE coaching staff would be in jeopardy if i was owner.

And i believe the team needs to stick to coaches for several years to get a good feel. But i dont believe we found our guys this season. So how can you be cohesive? I say...
Cowher- Head Coach
G Williams- D Coordinator
Zorn- QB Coach (solely for the Development of Campbell in `10)[/quote]

Campbell is released after '09 if Zorn is shown the door. Shoot if he doesn't produce anything under Cowher in '09 he might be let go. Nothing on JC, but not sure Snyder is going to give JC a raise for what we have seen from him thus far, plus Cowher might want "his guy".

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;513074]This is so unrealistic, do you really believe that could be the coaching staff next year?[/quote]

no...i dont. haha.

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i just dont know anymore...

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Gus Frerotte:

Del Rio signed an extension last year and has a lot of time - - and $$$ - - on his contract. Jax is not anywhere near the top of the NFL in terms of local revenues. Remember, they covered up 10,000 seats in their stadium with a tarp about 5 years ago so they would have a shot at selling out the games. This year, they did not sell out twice at home.

Del Rio may survive because it will be so burdensome to fire him, pay him AND pay someone else to come in and coach the team...

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Mudge,

I've heard they might "promote" Del Rio to a front office position and just name Tice head coach.

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[quote=The Goat;511653]I actually feel worse for Williams than for anybody within the Redskins franchise. I guess I was one of the few who believed he should have been the HC w/ Saunders staying on w/ total control of the offense. I truly believe Snyder's massive ego got in the way because Williams came across as so confident in his own leadership.

I hope Williams gets his shot w/ a great franchise.[/quote]

He should have been the HC here. I think he learned from Gibbs on how to manage players, he was quoted in an interview a couple of years back explaining how he had learned. I don't know if he would have kept Saunders as the O.C., but if he had, Collins would have been the starting QB and the offense probobly would have resembled how it was at the end of last season. Maybe even better in the redzone with Saunders calling 100% of the plays.

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Smootsmack:

I have heard similar rumblings about Del Rio and Tice. Here is what would give me pause if I owned the Jags...


Mike Tice has a nickname around all of the NFL. His nickname is "Meathead". Do you really want a head coach who is known far and wide as "Meathead"?


We shall see...

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I watched the Jags/Colts game tonight. Since I had no particular favorite in the game - - other than the fact that I love to watch the way P. Manning operates in the pocket - - I decided to focus on the Jags defense to see what it said about Gregg Williams.

Here is my conclusion - after watching the game and then watching the second half over again on tape:
[INDENT]Either Gregg Williams completely changed his defensive philosophy or...

Gregg Williams does not have the personnel to run the defense he ran here in DC or ...

Gregg Williams has been told what the defensive scheme has to be and his job is to call the defenses play-to-play.[/INDENT]

The Jags played zone blitz a lot; that was a rarity here in Washington.

The Jags sold out to stop the run against a Colt team that is much more dangerous passing than running. The Williams' defense here seemed to focus on trying to take away an opponent's strength and not to accentuate its weaknesses.

When Manning completed his first 16 passes in the game, the defensive coverage didn't really change at all. Manning wound up something like 29 for 34 and about 350 yards for the game. The Jags never adjusted. That is not a typical game for "Gregg Williams' defense."

I do not know what is going on in Jax but that team definitely needs a bunch of changes. There is a lot more talent there than their record would indicate - - particularly on the defensive side of the ball.

As I said elsewhere, Jax is a financially strapped franchise. Because the Skins had to pay off Williams this year, his hiring in Jax as defensive coordinator was essentially a "freebie" to them. Maybe they hired him just as a caretaker?

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I tried to watch GW's defense as well. Didn't get to analyze it much, but I don't know that it's so much the game plan/scheme, or just that the team morale is low & they lack on field leadership. The Jags this year are earily similar in their fortunes as the Skins of 06, they even have the same D coordinator.

GW looks a bit fatter & older, this season must've worn him down. If Blache retires (which really could be quite possible) I wonder if it would be possible to get GW here. It seems he could work w/Zorn, but would danny & vinny bring him & would he come back after all that's been said & done?

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freddyg12:

I think Gregg Williams will be hired back here on the same day that Marty Schottenheimer takes over as head coach once again.

I don't think those bridges are merely burnt; I suspect they have been nuked.

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The winds of change blow in Jags country.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3789799]ESPN - James Harris resigns as Jacksonville Jaguars personnel head[/url]

Re: Gregg Williams out in J-Ville
 

[quote=redskinsrob;513240]He should have been the HC here. I think he learned from Gibbs on how to manage players, he was quoted in an interview a couple of years back explaining how he had learned. I don't know if he would have kept Saunders as the O.C., [B]but if he had, Collins would have been the starting QB and the offense probobly would have resembled how it was at the end of last season.[/B] Maybe even better in the redzone with Saunders calling 100% of the plays.[/quote]

I would bet you're right about Collins; however, with Collins near retirement we'd have seen JC starting within a couple of years... except this time he'd be a master of Saunders offense having watched Collins run it close up. (I figured at the time Saunders would be retained because I thought he and Williams had a lot of respect for each other). Alas, it was never meant to be and I'm past it. Under Zorn JC has the best possible shot of becoming an elite QB IMO and if they make this WCO thing work we're gonna fly.