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Another thing that's funny is not one single peep has come from inside the Redskins that even hints at anything resembling an open QB competition in training camp. Not one. Anyone who says anything about JC not getting an extension yet knows little about the cap/CBA situation heading into 2010.

Jason was the guy going into last season, and Zorn has reinforced as much heading into this coming season. There's no competition for the starting job. If anything, it will be interesting to see if Brennan can overtake Collins for the role of #1 Clipboard Holder.

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[quote=skinsfan69;525771]I'm not so sure about that. Let see how things play out in training camp.[/quote]

I'd bet nearly anything to say he's the #3 QB coming out of camp.

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[quote=Paintrain;525756]And most people who repeat this same old mantra always ignore Zorn's criticism of Campbell's late season play when he said that Campbell was [b][i]moving too quickly through his reads[/b][/i] and missing opportunities.

This board would be so much more enjoyable and have more substance in their threads if fans would accept 3 simple truths:
1. Jason Campbell is unquestionably our QB going into the 2009 season. There will be no camp competition, nor should there be. He's going to get AT LEAST 10 games without any risk of losing his position.
2. JC and JZ are linked at the hip. If Campbell succeeds, the team succeeds and Zorn sticks around. If Campbell doesn't develop and the team struggles or is worse than this year then Zorn [b]and[/b] Campbell will both be gone in '10. By this time next year we will know without question if JC is our QB of the future or not.
3. Colt Brennan was drafted to be a long term project and likely a career backup. He put up sick numbers in college and lit up some UPS drivers, but anyone who knows anything about football could see that even in his 'highlights' in the preseason many of his throws would have been picked or gotten his WR killed against NFL starters. Think Shane Matthews/Danny Wuerffel. Seriously. That's who he is in the NFL.[/quote]

I've never heard zorn say that and I watched him on NBC all the time...still he was making mistakes during the 2nd half of the season and is a major factor as to why we slumped the second half of the season

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[quote=GTripp0012;525753]Boy, last season worked out wonderful for Brian Stewart and his incredible powers of observation.[/quote]

Very true, but A) it's not like he's the only defensive coordinator who knows about JC's reads and B) last time I checked, the cowboys were still alive in the playoff hunt in the last week of the season wereas we were ruled out by week 15...this will be the year we see how good Campbell really is

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[quote=Nflnick11;525777]Very true, but A) it's not like he's the only defensive coordinator who knows about JC's reads and B) last time I checked, the cowboys were still alive in the playoff hunt in the last week of the season wereas we were ruled out by week 15...this will be the year we see how good Campbell really is[/quote]

Don't forget that the Cowboys' expectations were very high at the beginning of the season, and were considered a SB contender; whereas the Redskins were not expected to do as well as they did.

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Campbell is indefinitely our starer this season. 50-50 he's here for more than one year. The cult of colt is strong damn right because Campbell hasn't convinced us he can do anything. He can be a QB who doesn't throw ints when hes got the best RB in the league that doesn't mean this guy should stay around.

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;525768]~~~~~~
[B]Question is, would El throw down the field or constantly throw across it like he runs?[/B]

I say bring back Jay Schrader!HAHA[/quote]

Nothing but screens...... and an occasional downfield pass to Cooley. :)

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Todd Collins woulda done better late in the season. Problem is he isn't young enough to take the beating that the old OL relinquishes!

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[quote=Ruhskins;525779]Don't forget that the Cowboys' expectations were very high at the beginning of the season, and were considered a SB contender; whereas the Redskins were not expected to do as well as they did.[/quote]

Ya well we did meet other peoples expectations of us finishing last in the east... It's not about how you do the first half the season it's how you do the whole season

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JC sucks, he's the worst in the NFL. Our Owner and our GM are also among the worst in the NFL. No I take that back. That's not a fair statement. Our Owner and GM are the worst in the NFL. Also Zorn is the worst coach in the NFL he admitted that himself. He went 8-8 his first year. I expected at least 14-2. Or better. Jason Taylor he sucks. It doesn't matter if he was hurt he should play hurt and make the pro bowl. Moss can't get open. Rogers has no hands and Hall is a trouble maker. I wish Jerry Jones was our owner. And Wade was our HC. And Romo was our QB. If Colt isn't our starter in 09 I'm becoming a Cowboys fan.

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Take 2 lithium and call me in the morning 44. We'll talk. It's gonna be alright.

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[quote=53Fan;525812]Take 2 lithium and call me in the morning 44. We'll talk. It's gonna be alright.[/quote]

Ha ha. I think Dmek25 took me seriously on the Leftwich thread. :)

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^ i wanted to yell, but decided a nice calm intervention type thread will help you .... we're here for you.

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[quote=Meks;525817]^ i wanted to yell, but decided a nice calm intervention type thread will help you .... we're here for you.[/quote]

Meks I was going to let it ride but for the sake of our guest I didn't want them to think we were completely crazy:)

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[quote=Nflnick11;525790]Ya well we did meet other peoples expectations of us finishing last in the east... It's not about how you do the first half the season it's how you do the whole season[/quote]

Other expectations were for us to have a losing season, and we didn't. Not to mention how competitive our division was this season. I mean, come on there's a big difference between finishing last in our division and last in the NFC West (which that type of production was what was expected of us).

Regardless, my original point was to counter you defending the Cowboys saying that they were still in the playoff hunt much later in the season than we were (which I don't think we were out of the playoff that early in the season). And I was comparing the expectations by the sports media of our team and the Cowboys. The Cowboys were expected to have a season like the Giants, but they didn't. The Cowboys were the ones with all the flashy free agent acquisitions, and their owner guaranteed that they would make the playoffs. Meanwhile our team had a rookie coach, some young receivers, a questionable offensive line, and a banged up RB.

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I think we have seen the best JC is going to be. To bad because we have little on the bench. This team has so many needs I see little chance of drafting a QB first round. There are two things the O needs more out of the QB spot and a line that has so many needs one draft will not due! O9 will be a long season just like the end of 08 was.

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WTF?:bdh: :postcop: :doh:

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[quote=Nflnick11;525776]I've never heard zorn say that and I watched him on NBC all the time...still he was making mistakes during the 2nd half of the season and is a major factor as to why we slumped the second half of the season[/quote]

It was in a WP article that was written in the 2nd half sometime. I tried searching but it didn't go back that far. Bottom line is JC is going to be the QB next season. We all want him to be one of the top QB in the league, we'll see if it comes to pass but by no means is he terrible or the worst QB in the league. As poorly as our OL played in the 2nd half it's hard to judge anyone's production.

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[quote=Nflnick11;525660]Campbells got a great arm and great legs, other than that, he's not good. Surprised no ones mentioned the true successor, Brennan...[/quote]

why does everyone love Colt? He may indeed be good, but remember when Spurrier's offense what "tearing it up" in the 2nd half of pre-season games then went on to do 0 when it counted? Campbell is solid, and made strides last season, he's got 1 more to demonstrate that he's the undeniable future, otherwise, its open compeition in 2010.

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[quote=Luxorreb;525786]Todd Collins woulda done better late in the season. Problem is he isn't young enough to take the beating that the old OL relinquishes![/quote]

You're crazy. If the O-Line was really in such bad shape then Vinny would have done something about it DUH. Oh wait.

[quote=44ever;525797]JC sucks, he's the worst in the NFL. Our Owner and our GM are also among the worst in the NFL. No I take that back. That's not a fair statement. Our Owner and GM are the worst in the NFL. Also Zorn is the worst coach in the NFL he admitted that himself. He went 8-8 his first year. I expected at least 14-2. Or better. Jason Taylor he sucks. It doesn't matter if he was hurt he should play hurt and make the pro bowl. Moss can't get open. Rogers has no hands and Hall is a trouble maker. I wish Jerry Jones was our owner. And Wade was our HC. And Romo was our QB. If Colt isn't our starter in 09 I'm becoming a Cowboys fan.[/quote]

ZOMG, so you're a member of the misleading post club to??!?!?!?

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[quote=RedskinPete;525834]I think [B]we have seen the best JC is going to be.[/B] To bad because we have little on the bench. This team has so many needs I see little chance of drafting a QB first round. There are two things the O needs more out of the QB spot and a line that has so many needs one draft will not due! O9 will be a long season just like the end of 08 was.[/quote]

Couldn't disagree more w/ this. For one thing it ignores logic: Jason has improved against remarkable odds. From '07 to '08 the entire offensive system changed, and the o-line regressed significantly as evidenced in almost twice the number of sacks on Jason (especially considering he began to use his feet and make defenders miss this season it's pretty telling how much more he was sacked - the o-line was probably the worst in football by week 8). Through all that he markedly improved on fumbles, interceptions, footwork and decision-making. He is also tough as nails and becoming more of a threat w/ his legs.

... I don't mind defending Jason over and over again cause it just sharpens my thoughts on why he's our QB. Said it before and i'll say it again here: JC will be money in '09 if the FO/coaches do their job to upgrade the line. Drafting a franchise tackle is the first step and this appears to be a great year for them. Opening up competition on the interior between Jansen, Rinehart and Thomas is also important and if all else fails grab a stop-gap guy in FA if Jansen can't transition to guard and Rinehart still has sand in the vag.

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[quote=The Goat;525843]Couldn't disagree more w/ this. For one thing it ignores logic: Jason has improved against remarkable odds. From '07 to '08 the entire offensive system changed, and the o-line regressed significantly as evidenced in almost twice the number of sacks on Jason (especially considering he began to use his feet and make defenders miss this season it's pretty telling how much more he was sacked - the o-line was probably the worst in football by week 8). Through all that he markedly improved on fumbles, interceptions, footwork and decision-making. He is also tough as nails and becoming more of a threat w/ his legs.

... I don't mind defending Jason over and over again cause it just sharpens my thoughts on why he's our QB. Said it before and i'll say it again here: JC will be money in '09 if the FO/coaches do their job to upgrade the line. Drafting a franchise tackle is the first step and this appears to be a great year for them. Opening up competition on the interior between Jansen, Rinehart and Thomas is also important and if all else fails grab a stop-gap guy in FA if Jansen can't transition to guard and Rinehart still has sand in the vag.[/quote]

Couldn't agree more

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[quote=Ruhskins;525831]Other expectations were for us to have a losing season, and we didn't. Not to mention how competitive our division was this season. I mean, come on there's a big difference between finishing last in our division and last in the NFC West (which that type of production was what was expected of us).

Regardless, my original point was to counter you defending the Cowboys saying that they were still in the playoff hunt much later in the season than we were (which I don't think we were out of the playoff that early in the season). And I was comparing the expectations by the sports media of our team and the Cowboys. The Cowboys were expected to have a season like the Giants, but they didn't. The Cowboys were the ones with all the flashy free agent acquisitions, and their owner guaranteed that they would make the playoffs. Meanwhile our team had a rookie coach, some young receivers, a questionable offensive line, and a banged up RB.[/quote]

Alright dude you don't need to get all technical about this... The bottom line is that we finished 8-8 which is bad considering we were 6-2. And about finishing last if were in the NFC west, last time I checked we lost to the worst team in the NFC west so I would say this is a season we should forget about. I know I'm sounding very negative, but I'm being negative because we got to take all those negative players or plays or calls etc. And fix them for next year, Jason Campbell and his reads is one of those things

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[quote=The Goat;525843]Couldn't disagree more w/ this. For one thing it ignores logic: Jason has improved against remarkable odds. From '07 to '08 the entire offensive system changed, and the o-line regressed significantly as evidenced in almost twice the number of sacks on Jason (especially considering he began to use his feet and make defenders miss this season it's pretty telling how much more he was sacked - the o-line was probably the worst in football by week 8). Through all that he markedly improved on fumbles, interceptions, footwork and decision-making. He is also tough as nails and becoming more of a threat w/ his legs.

... I don't mind defending Jason over and over again cause it just sharpens my thoughts on why he's our QB. Said it before and i'll say it again here: JC will be money in '09 if the FO/coaches do their job to upgrade the line. Drafting a franchise tackle is the first step and this appears to be a great year for them. Opening up competition on the interior between Jansen, Rinehart and Thomas is also important and if all else fails grab a stop-gap guy in FA if Jansen can't transition to guard and [B]Rinehart still has sand in the vag[/B].[/quote]

Good Post Goat. I agree. On Rinehart...if he still has the "sand" problem, is that something that is operable or do you think he'll be put on IR?

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[quote=The Goat;525843]Couldn't disagree more w/ this. For one thing it ignores logic: Jason has improved against remarkable odds. From '07 to '08 the entire offensive system changed, and the o-line regressed significantly as evidenced in almost twice the number of sacks on Jason (especially considering he began to use his feet and make defenders miss this season it's pretty telling how much more he was sacked - the o-line was probably the worst in football by week 8). Through all that he markedly improved on fumbles, interceptions, footwork and decision-making. He is also tough as nails and becoming more of a threat w/ his legs.

... I don't mind defending Jason over and over again cause it just sharpens my thoughts on why he's our QB. Said it before and i'll say it again here: JC will be money in '09 if the FO/coaches do their job to upgrade the line. Drafting a franchise tackle is the first step and this appears to be a great year for them. Opening up competition on the interior between Jansen, Rinehart and Thomas is also important and if all else fails grab a stop-gap guy in FA if Jansen can't transition to guard and Rinehart still has sand in the vag.[/quote]
I may start liking turtles as well

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I'm so sick of this JC shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[quote=53Fan;525848]Good Post Goat. I agree. On Rinehart...if he still has the "sand" problem, is that something that is operable or do you think he'll be put on IR?[/quote]

:lol:

btw no disrespect intended to the women warpathers...

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[quote=The Goat;525843]Couldn't disagree more w/ this. For one thing it ignores logic: Jason has improved against remarkable odds. From '07 to '08 the entire offensive system changed, and the o-line regressed significantly as evidenced in almost twice the number of sacks on Jason (especially considering he began to use his feet and make defenders miss this season it's pretty telling how much more he was sacked - the o-line was probably the worst in football by week 8). Through all that he markedly improved on fumbles, interceptions, footwork and decision-making. He is also tough as nails and becoming more of a threat w/ his legs.

... I don't mind defending Jason over and over again cause it just sharpens my thoughts on why he's our QB. Said it before and i'll say it again here: JC will be money in '09 if the FO/coaches do their job to upgrade the line. Drafting a franchise tackle is the first step and this appears to be a great year for them. Opening up competition on the interior between Jansen, Rinehart and Thomas is also important and if all else fails grab a stop-gap guy in FA if Jansen can't transition to guard and Rinehart still has sand in the vag.[/quote]

Well said Goat.
JC showed that he can play at a high level during the 1st half of the season. And i think the offense will grow around him as the talent around him improves, including the coaching/play calling. Year 1 of JC/JZ WCO offense was a success in my eyes.

I still don't understand how so many fans can watch the games and still have a negative opinion about JC?

Or maybe they aren't watching the games?

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[quote=Nflnick11;525846][B]Alright dude you don't need to get all technical about this.[/B].. The bottom line is that we finished 8-8 which is bad considering we were 6-2. And about finishing last if were in the NFC west, last time I checked we lost to the worst team in the NFC west so I would say this is a season we should forget about. I know I'm sounding very negative, but I'm being negative because we got to take all those negative players or plays or calls etc. And fix them for next year, Jason Campbell and his reads is one of those things[/quote]

Yeah you're right, I mean why be statistical and logical when talking about this?

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There's one reason to me that yells Jason has a somewhat short leash. He's not Zorns guy. You see it all the time when new coaches come in, they replace current players with 'their guys.' Wouldn't be surprised to see it happen here in DC eventually. I think Jason will get another year or two to show adequate progression, but if he doesn't Zorn isn't connected at the hip like he would be if he drafted Campbell.

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[quote=Daseal;525869]There's one reason to me that yells Jason has a somewhat short leash. He's not Zorns guy. You see it all the time when new coaches come in, they replace current players with 'their guys.' Wouldn't be surprised to see it happen here in DC eventually. I think Jason will get another year or two to show adequate progression, but if he doesn't Zorn isn't connected at the hip like he would be if he drafted Campbell.[/quote]Understood, but Zorn likely doesn't get the benefit of the doubt to stay post-Campbell. I can't imagine Zorn gets more than three years to build a winner.

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[quote=Daseal;525869]There's one reason to me that yells Jason has a somewhat short leash. He's not Zorns guy. You see it all the time when new coaches come in, they replace current players with 'their guys.' [B]Wouldn't be surprised to see it happen here in DC eventually.[/B] I think Jason will get another year or two to show adequate progression, but if he doesn't Zorn isn't connected at the hip like he would be if he drafted Campbell.[/quote]

I think this is a fair statement, and you are being reasonable to say that Zorn would give JC a year or two to find out whether he'd fit the system or not. If he doesn't progress, he's gone; if he does, he stays. I do wonder if JZ would be able to survive another year or two with a poor playing performance of Campbell.

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well have to wait and see once again what he does this year.. i dont see anyone replacing him in camp. thats not our call, i just dont see it.

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What exactly is wrong with competiotion in camp. I see other guys arounfd the NFL come in and compete. JC should have to earn it. I would give Brennan at least the opportunity to compete for the job. Over all the QB situation in DC is lacking. It wouldn't be rehashed over and over and over if we had a competant QB.

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[quote=ridgely;525891]What exactly is wrong with competiotion in camp. I see other guys arounfd the NFL come in and compete. JC should have to earn it. I would give Brennan at least the opportunity to compete for the job. Over all the QB situation in DC is lacking. It wouldn't be rehashed over and over and over if we had a competant QB.[/quote]

Why do you think Jason Campbell is incompetent? He was in a new offense and his numbers actually improved. He cut his turnovers down and in a new offense that's pretty impressive. If we want to blame anyone here, we should blame the receivers. They dropped so many passes this year it made me sick. I have no problem with competition either, but lets stop with this Colt Brennan love fest. He was third string behind a career backup. Yes Collins played great for us down the stretch last season but there's a reason he's been a backup for the majority of his career. Colt couldn't even beat him out for the backup job. I think JC is at a critical point in his development. He needs to concentrate solely on the playbook and improving his timing with our receivers. The last thing he needs at this point is to look over his shoulder.

HAIL!

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[quote=The Goat;525843]Couldn't disagree more w/ this. For one thing it ignores logic: Jason has improved against remarkable odds. From '07 to '08 the entire offensive system changed, and the o-line regressed significantly as evidenced in almost twice the number of sacks on Jason (especially considering he began to use his feet and make defenders miss this season it's pretty telling how much more he was sacked - the o-line was probably the worst in football by week 8). Through all that he markedly improved on fumbles, interceptions, footwork and decision-making. He is also tough as nails and becoming more of a threat w/ his legs.

... I don't mind defending Jason over and over again cause it just sharpens my thoughts on why he's our QB. Said it before and i'll say it again here: JC will be money in '09 if the FO/coaches do their job to upgrade the line. Drafting a franchise tackle is the first step and this appears to be a great year for them. Opening up competition on the interior between Jansen, Rinehart and Thomas is also important and if all else fails grab a stop-gap guy in FA if Jansen can't transition to guard and Rinehart still has sand in the vag.[/quote]

Great post, I would add to it that Zorn didn't help JC much as the season went on by trying stubbornly to implement his wc offense on a team w/personel far too slow for it. Case in point, it was baffling to me that in the Pittsburgh game Zorn kept calling plays w/4 wr's & empty backfield. If your qb is getting killed, why do you not keep a rb in to help block, especially when you've got one of the best blocking backs in the nfl.

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[quote=SkinzzFan;525892]Why do you think Jason Campbell is incompetent? He was in a new offense and his numbers actually improved. He cut his turnovers down and in a new offense that's pretty impressive. If we want to blame anyone here, we should blame the receivers. They dropped so many passes this year it made me sick. I have no problem with competition either, but lets stop with this Colt Brennan love fest. He was third string behind a career backup. Yes Collins played great for us down the stretch last season but there's a reason he's been a backup for the majority of his career. Colt couldn't even beat him out for the backup job. I think JC is at a critical point in his development. He needs to concentrate solely on the playbook and improving his timing with our receivers. The last thing he needs at this point is to look over his shoulder.

HAIL![/quote]

I not impressed by the fact that he threw so few int's because he didnot throw very many TD's to go along with that. Look for the people who think he is a very good QB I'm not sure what you see at this point. For the people who think he should go or get benched I feel we need to give him one more year in this system. I think with either of these views JC's career here boils down to next year.

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[quote=ridgely;525891]What exactly is wrong with competiotion in camp. I see other guys arounfd the NFL come in and compete. JC should have to earn it. I would give Brennan at least the opportunity to compete for the job. Over all the QB situation in DC is lacking. It wouldn't be rehashed over and over and over if we had a competant QB.[/quote]

Spell check man, spell check. Also, please don't completely ignore the terrible offensive line and how that can affect QB play. As I've said before, we could put a healthy Tom Brady behind our line, and he would still have the same production JC had last season.

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[quote=Ruhskins;525923]Spell check man, spell check. Also, please don't completely ignore the terrible offensive line and how that can affect QB play. As I've said before, we could put a healthy Tom Brady behind our line, and he would still have the same production JC had last season.[/quote]

JC will never be Tom Brady!

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This is a pure speculative article. Opinion. Nothing more.

I think all would agree JC deserves to be our QB next year and a chance to improve even more. Now after next year, if he hasn't made any strides or has regressed the organization has a right to offer or not to offer him a contract.

As someone who is unsold on JC, I do really like the fact he works his butt off and has improved every offseason. I hope he does the same this year.