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THIS is a lot of...........chimp talk for a football site

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[quote=djnemo65;527879][QUOTE=Trample the Elderly;527831][B]Why is it when Chris Rock makes jokes about a tiger biting Freud it's funny?
Why is it when Ron White makes jokes about a bear eating a guy it's funny?
Why is it when the Richmond Times Dispatch runs cartoons of bears eating people at the natural selection zoo it's funny? [/B]
QUOTE]

Comedy is a mystery, one that has been pondered since Aristotle. Nobody can explain why some people are funny and others aren't, we just kind of know this to be the case. So when Chris Rock makes such a joke it's funny, but when you do it's creepy and weird. When Jim Carrey farts in dumb and dumber its hilarious, but when my dad does it its gross.

While no one can explain why this is the case, the lesson to be gleaned is that you - Trample - should stop making jokes.[/quote]

Perhaps, I asked some some people tonight what they thought about it. They know me better and thought the point I was making has funny. Maybe the internet takes the humor out of it. Maybe I was just being crass. It just made perfect sense to me so I wrote it.
Turns out this lady is sleeping with the chimp, gave it wine, and zanax. If that's not stupid I don't know what is?
Oh, when I was thinking of my tag I was thinking of our offensive line. I don't really advocate trampling the elderly. That wasn't just for you. Some others had something or other about it.
Do they still have Habu Sake over there or is it illegal?

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;527917][quote=djnemo65;527879]

Perhaps, I asked some some people tonight what they thought about it. They know me better and thought the point I was making has funny. Maybe the internet takes the humor out of it. Maybe I was just being crass. It just made perfect sense to me so I wrote it.
Turns out this lady is sleeping with the chimp, gave it wine, and zanax. If that's not stupid I don't know what is?
Oh, when I was thinking of my tag I was thinking of our offensive line. I don't really advocate trampling the elderly. That wasn't just for you. Some others had something or other about it.
Do they still have Habu Sake over there or is it illegal?[/quote]


Fair enough. I think if the chimp had eaten its owner your remarks might have come off as less crass. The fact that it ate an innocent visiter is decidedly less funny.

Habu sake is from Okinawa and I assume sold pretty freely down there (someone was just telling me those snake hunters make bank) although I haven't run into it up here in the Kansai region. Have you had it? Is it worth tracking down?

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I thought she was saying today that she never gave him Xanax. Who knows?

As for Trample, why he's getting so much attention here I'm not sure, but from a large amount of his parking lot posts he seems to be-or at least likes to play the part of-a sexist, xenophobic sadist who cares about no one and probably has few if any that care about him. Not to mention his profile (I actually think maybe he's an exterminator, like Uncle Jessie) Yet, at the same time he has some reasoned posts both in the locker room and the parking lot. But anyway, it'd be easy to see why people think he is a pretty crass, unfeeling individual. Who knows, maybe he is.

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[quote=djnemo65;527919][quote=Trample the Elderly;527917]


Fair enough. I think if the chimp had eaten its owner your remarks might have come off as less crass. The fact that it ate an innocent visiter is decidedly less funny.

Habu sake is from Okinawa and I assume sold pretty freely down there (someone was just telling me those snake hunters make bank) although I haven't run into it up here in the Kansai region. Have you had it? Is it worth tracking down?[/quote]

I had it in Iwakuni. I don't remember much after I did. Stick to the major brands. You never know what you're going to get.

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I had a sense of outrage at the moron who owns the chimp. Because the chimp was there in the first place, the neighbor tried to help out and got maimed. That's bullshit. It's very similar situation for anyone owning a vicious dog.

However, to an extent I see TTE's point. If I'm the neighbor and I see a chimp going ape (literally) I'll stand back and watch from a safe distance. I'd probably call the cops to help, but if the chimp kills the owner, that's what she friggin gets. There's no way I'd risk my ass against a chimpanzee unless it was bearing down on my wife or kids.

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[quote=Schneed10;527962]I had a sense of outrage at the moron who owns the chimp. Because the chimp was there in the first place, the neighbor tried to help out and got maimed. That's bullshit. It's very similar situation for anyone owning a vicious dog.

However, to an extent I see TTE's point. If I'm the neighbor and I see a chimp going ape (literally) I'll stand back and watch from a safe distance. I'd probably call the cops to help, but if the chimp kills the owner, that's what she friggin gets. There's no way I'd risk my ass against a chimpanzee unless it was bearing down on my wife or kids.[/quote]

Schneed, according to what I've read this is not how it went down at all. The victim was the owner's good friend. She had spent lots of time with the chimp in the past and often visited the home. So fond of and familiar with the monkey was she that this time she had brought an Elmo doll as a gift for it. She got out of her car carrying the doll and was attacked. For whatever reason, something triggered the monkey to flip out. The friend was not intervening in anything as the monkey was not attacking the owner.

This is at least what I have read.

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[quote=djnemo65;527982]Schneed, according to what I've read this is not how it went down at all. The victim was the owner's good friend. She had spent lots of time with the chimp in the past and often visited the home. So fond of and familiar with the monkey was she that this time she had brought an Elmo doll as a gift for it. She got out of her car carrying the doll and was attacked. For whatever reason, something triggered the monkey to flip out. The friend was not intervening in anything as the monkey was not attacking the owner.

This is at least what I have read.[/quote]

I thought the monkey got out of the house with a key and the friend tried to help out?

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update: [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/nyregion/19chimpanzee.html?ref=nyregion[/url]

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Just when you think you've seen or heard it all from moron land, here comes another:

[url=http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/longisland/ny-popost196040929feb19,0,7014832.story]Paterson, Sharpton slam NY Post chimp cartoon -- Newsday.com[/url]

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NY Post and its Cartoonist think they're funny too:

[IMG]http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/02/18/chimpnypost21809_2.jpeg[/IMG]


What's really funny is the response from the cartoonist to criticism:

[quote]Do you really think I’m saying Obama should be shot? I didn’t see that in the cartoon. It’s about the economic stimulus bill. If you’re going to make that about anybody, it would be Pelosi, which it’s not.

-Sean Delonas[/quote]

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I think that cartoon disgraces African Americans more then the slaned ape from earlier this week.

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[quote=Mattyk72;528003]Just when you think you've seen or heard it all from moron land, here comes another:

[URL="http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/longisland/ny-popost196040929feb19,0,7014832.story"]Paterson, Sharpton slam NY Post chimp cartoon -- Newsday.com[/URL][/quote]

You beat me to it. Little do they know no one is laughing. Seriously, where is the satire and humor in the cartoon? Where's the [URL="http://www.answers.com/satire"] irony, derision, or wit[/URL]?

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[URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/19/steele-gop-needs-hip-hop-makeover/"]Michael Steele[/URL] is one cool and funny cat too though not in the way he hoped I am sure:

[quote]“we need to uptick our image with everyone, including one-armed midgets.” [/quote]

LOL...now that's funny...and sad...all at the same time.

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[quote=Schneed10;527998]I thought the monkey got out of the house with a key and the friend tried to help out?[/quote]

Oh I see what you are saying, I thought you meant she was like intervening in an attack. I don't know that you can fault her for going over though, given that she had a relationship with the chimp.

Is anyone else really uncomfortable with the idea of face transplantation? That just gives me the willies.

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[quote=saden1;528006]NY Post and its Cartoonist think they're funny too:

[IMG]http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/02/18/chimpnypost21809_2.jpeg[/IMG]


What's really funny is the response from the cartoonist to criticism:[/quote]

Trample, did you draw this? :)

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[quote=djnemo65;528012]Oh I see what you are saying, I thought you meant she was like intervening in an attack. I don't know that you can fault her for going over though, given that she had a relationship with the chimp.

Is anyone else really uncomfortable with the idea of face transplantation? That just gives me the willies.[/quote]

What gives me the willies more is the fact his monkey literally ripped her face off. Can you imagine being the cop that rolled up on that scene? Wow.

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[quote=saden1;528008]You beat me to it. Little do they know no one is laughing. Seriously, where is the satire and humor in the cartoon? Where's the [URL="http://www.answers.com/satire"]irony, derision, or wit[/URL]?[/quote]

Saden, an off topic item, but why do you put so many links in when you're making a point? I don't even click on 10% of them. I'd rather you just make your point on your own.

Criticism police.

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[quote=mredskins;528007]I think that cartoon disgraces African Americans more then the slaned ape from earlier this week.[/quote]

If you read the caption it says about writing the stimulas bill. The President does not write bills so it was not refering to him but does this mean if anyone does a cartoon about Obama its races. The only time I even look at him as AA is when its pointed out by the media or who ever is bringing it up. I know he is the first AA to hold office which is a great acheivement but after that he is just another person and thats how I look at him.

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[quote=Schneed10;528026]Saden, an off topic item, but why do you put so many links in when you're making a point? I don't even click on 10% of them. I'd rather you just make your point on your own.

Criticism police.[/quote]


I provide links to support my argument and to give context to my posts when possible. Honestly though, linking takes some effort and it's much easier to just write a post and be done without having to explain yourself. Clicking is obviously optional but for further detail as to why I link you should read [URL="http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/12/frank-rich-why-i-link/"]Frank Rich piece[/URL] or you can just read the quote below seeing how you don't like linking :p


[quote]Rich says his linking is as much about backing up his argument as it is about adding background. If one’s argument is only as good as one’s facts, Rich sends you to his facts. “Now, sometimes it’s unlinkable material,” he says. “But why not give the reader, if he or she wants to, the opportunity to see the sources, or a source, when it’s available? It helps bulletproof the column, because if they say ‘He must be making that up,’ they can look and see — here’s the source, take a look and judge it for yourself….If I’m citing a figure, at the most banal level, from the Labor Department or a poll or an economic report, [why not] link to the whole document it comes from?”

...

Rich says he does see the links as optional added value. “To me as a writer, the most important thing is to have the column stand alone,” he told me. “Believe it or not, there are still a lot of readers who still read the column on paper.” Linking, he says, is “extracurricular activity for those who want it and have the time to indulge in it.”
[/quote]

p.s. I of course was doing it big way before Frank Rich.

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[quote=firstdown;528028]If you read the caption it says about writing the stimulas bill. The President does not write bills so it was not refering to him but does this mean if anyone does a cartoon about Obama its races. The only time I even look at him as AA is when its pointed out by the media or who ever is bringing it up. I know he is the first AA to hold office which is a great acheivement but after that he is just another person and thats how I look at him.[/quote]


If you have not heard some one degrade a AA by comparing him/her to an ape/monkey then you may want to crawl out of the rock you have been living under.

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[quote=mredskins;528031]If you have not heard some one degrade a AA by comparing him/her to an ape/monkey then you may want to crawl out of the rock you have been living under.[/quote]

I don't want to get into the race thing and maybe your point is valid about that cartoon.

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[quote=saden1;528006]NY Post and its Cartoonist think they're funny too:
What's really funny is the response from the cartoonist to criticism:[/quote]
My initial reaction was the same as most, it looks like a racist attack against Obama. However thinking about it (and giving the cartoonist the benefit of the doubt that he's not a full on racist moron), what the cartoonist was probably trying to say is that the Stimulus bill was so poorly done a monkey must've wrote it. HOWEVER, that's what editors are for, and for them to miss the racist implication in this is inexcusable. The editor who blew it should be fired and if I'm the Post, I don't use this cartoonist anymore either.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;528047]My initial reaction was the same as most, it looks like a racist attack against Obama. However thinking about it (and giving the cartoonist the benefit of the doubt that he's not a full on racist moron), what the cartoonist was probably trying to say is that the Stimulus bill was so poorly done a monkey must've wrote it. HOWEVER, that's what editors are for, and for them to miss the racist implication in this is inexcusable. The editor who blew it should be fired and if I'm the Post, I don't use this cartoonist anymore either.[/quote]

I agree with you. At no time do Ithink the cartoonist intial was trying to make a racist remark but that was a poor choice to use because many will think he is racist.

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^ That makes too much sense...ignored.

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Y'all are so damn sensitive. I don't remember anyone saying anything when they made W into a monkey almost every week. Oh what about when they made Condi into the black crow that sat on his shoulder and whispered into his ear?
No Saden, I didn't draw that cartoon. I do think it is funny though. My co-workers are saying that its racist as I write this. Everything is racist to them so I really don't care.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;528047]My initial reaction was the same as most, it looks like a racist attack against Obama. However thinking about it (and giving the cartoonist the benefit of the doubt that he's not a full on racist moron), what the cartoonist was probably trying to say is that the Stimulus bill was so poorly done a monkey must've wrote it. HOWEVER, that's what editors are for, and for them to miss the racist implication in this is inexcusable. The editor who blew it should be fired and if I'm the Post, I don't use this cartoonist anymore either.[/quote]

I don't think the editor and cartoonist are racist, I just don't think they're very bright. What were they thinking? It was funny? That everyone would laugh along? Even worse than the cartoon was the response. They don't even have the ability to recognize the reception of the cartoon was not what they expected and squash the controversy as quickly as possible. No, instead we get an idiotic response to criticism with "if you’re going to make that about anybody, it would be Pelosi, which it’s not."

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I don't think there was racial intent either, BUT I can certainly understand how it could be seen that way.

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[quote=saden1;528068]I don't think the editor and cartoonist are racist, I just don't think they're very bright. What were they thinking? It was funny? That everyone would laugh along? Even worse than the cartoon was the response. They don't even have the ability to recognize the reception of the cartoon was not what they expected and squash the controversy as quickly as possible. No, instead we get an idiotic response to criticism with "if you’re going to make that about anybody, it would be Pelosi, which it’s not."[/quote]We're dealing with Jouralism majors, not rocket scientists, what should we expect :laughing2

I'd lump these two idiots in with Greg Brown.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;528097]We're dealing with Jouralism majors, not rocket scientists, what should we expect :laughing2

I'd lump these two idiots in with Greg Brown.[/quote]

I always thought decency was universal. As for lumping them with Greg Brown, I protest. GB has a special place all by himself :p

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[quote=saden1;528068]I don't think the editor and cartoonist are racist, I just don't think they're very bright. What were they thinking? It was funny? That everyone would laugh along? Even worse than the cartoon was the response. They don't even have the ability to recognize the reception of the cartoon was not what they expected and squash the controversy as quickly as possible. No, instead we get an idiotic response to criticism with "if you’re going to make that about anybody, it would be Pelosi, which it’s not."[/quote]

It could also be that maybe they are not racist so it never crossed their mind that this could be seen as racist.

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[quote=firstdown;528252]It could also be that maybe they are not racist so it never crossed their mind that this could be seen as racist.[/quote]

If that's the case I think it proves saden's point about them not being very bright.

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[quote=Mattyk72;527734]Slightly off the topic of monkey strength here but I really hate hearing 911 calls. Is it really necessary to release them all the time?[/quote]

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/01/greene.calls/index.html]Commentary: The people's right to gawk? - CNN.com[/url]

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A few points:

1. I lay the blame for this chimpanzee business squarely at the feet of Clint Eastwood. Every Which But Loose and its brilliantly titled sequal, Any Which Way You Can apparently convinced too many people that primates make great pets.

2. As regards the NYP, most political cartoons are not funny anyway, so to fault the comic nature of the piece as a kind of fall back criticism is a little too easy. The logic seems to be "It's not explicitly racist, but we don't want to let Murdoch and his boys off the hook completely, because we know they're evil, so we will find them guilty of being unfunny."

The worst thing you can say about this cartoonist is that he should have realized that in the age of Obama, the Al Sharptons of the world have a desperate need to demonstrate that America is still as racist as ever, maybe even more so, because that's how they make their living. No racism, no money. No racism, no need for the NAACP at all.

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[quote=SmootSmack;527877]This chimp, as I understand it, was pretty well known in the town.[/quote]

This is my favorite sentence ever. May I make it my sig please? I know I am often a sarcastic bastard, but I am in bitter earnest when I say that this sentence is unparalelllled in its brilliance. I think it's the use of "This Chimp" instead of "The Chimp" that won me over. Or perhaps its the folksy clause, "As I understand it" with it's echoes of Sinclair Lewis, Thornton Wilder, and Edward Arlington Robinson, that sealed the deal. Then you go "the town" instead of "this town" or "that" town. That's how Steinbeck would have played it as well. It absloutely sings, this sentence.

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[quote=Schneed10;528026]Saden, an off topic item, but why do you put so many links in when you're making a point? I don't even click on 10% of them. I'd rather you just make your point on your own.

Criticism police.[/quote]
Yeah, my sentiments too. it is obvious that saden doubles as a left wing blogger. He conspires to take down anything that is slightly conservative in his evil Seattle lair. Man this guy is border line dangerous on the PC.

Saden, you are way too smart, and talented to be wasting that great "potential" that you possess on those liberal ideals. Join us bat sh!t crazy right wingers, and together we can rule the galaxy. LOL

But, on a side note, what is the status of the poor lady that got mauled?

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[quote=4mrusmc;532566]Yeah, my sentiments too. it is obvious that saden doubles as a left wing blogger. He conspires to take down anything that is slightly conservative in his evil Seattle lair. Man this guy is border line dangerous on the PC.

Saden, you are way too smart, and talented to be wasting that great "potential" that you possess on those liberal ideals. Join us bat sh!t crazy right wingers, and together we can rule the galaxy. LOL

But, on a side note, what is the status of the poor lady that got mauled?[/quote]

I got on the Doc Thompson show the other day and we talked about Travis the pill popping booze guzzling chimp. He agreed with me.

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[quote=70Chip;532352]This is my favorite sentence ever. May I make it my sig please? I know I am often a sarcastic bastard, but I am in bitter earnest when I say that this sentence is unparalelllled in its brilliance. I think it's the use of "This Chimp" instead of "The Chimp" that won me over. Or perhaps its the folksy clause, "As I understand it" with it's echoes of Sinclair Lewis, Thornton Wilder, and Edward Arlington Robinson, that sealed the deal. Then you go "the town" instead of "this town" or "that" town. That's how Steinbeck would have played it as well. It absloutely sings, this sentence.[/quote]

LMAO. What a fantastic post. Smoot's post was great, and this literary analysis is great. That was the hardest I've laughed on The Warpath in a while. Well done, fellas. Well done indeed.

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[quote=4mrusmc;532566]Yeah, my sentiments too. it is obvious that saden doubles as a left wing blogger. He conspires to take down anything that is slightly conservative in his evil Seattle lair. Man this guy is border line dangerous on the PC.

Saden, you are way too smart, and talented to be wasting that great "potential" that you possess on those liberal ideals. Join us bat sh!t crazy right wingers, and together we can rule the galaxy. LOL

But, on a side note, what is the status of the poor lady that got mauled?[/quote]

What assurances do I have you won't plug me in the back soon after joining your side?

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[quote=saden1;532752]What assurances do I have you won't plug me in the back soon after joining your side?[/quote]
Brother, that is not how we roll. Once we are shoulder to shoulder, we are down like 4 flat tires. Peace.