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[quote=CRedskinsRule;550418]I gave it a B, only because I wanted Oher. But if he gets Double Digit sacks, I will raise it up to an A++[/quote]
Ditto.:food-smil

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I'm really happy with this pick. I never thought he'd fall to us and he should benefit from the surrounding cast. I wouldn't have been upset if we snagged Oher either. Hopefully, we can draft someone decent in the 3rd rd.

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[quote=jsarno;550481]We have a good secondary too...I LOVE the look of our D this year...we should be a top 5. If we can get the offense looking good, we will have a tough team to beat.[/quote]
Its all about staying healthy. Our old ass, oops I mean o-line was fine when healthy...

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[quote=Redskin Jim;550519]Its all about staying healthy. Our old ass, oops I mean o-line was fine when healthy...[/quote]

Very true. Injuries are ALWAYS a factor with us too...hopefully they won't be significant injuries this year.

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Orakpo is a really good pick. I'm surprised he slid to us and I think he'll really benefit from playing alongside Griffin, AH, and Carter. Our secondary is strong and can cover guys long enough for these guys to get to the QB.
I wouldn't have hurt my feelings if we drafted Oher but hopefully there will be someone left when we draft again in the 3rd rd.
Kudos to Vinny and DS for not doing anything stupid.

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Good pick. Get an OL in the 3rd and this will be a great weekend.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;550418]I gave it a B, only because I wanted Oher. But if he gets Double Digit sacks, I will raise it up to an A++[/quote]
Interesting way to grade

I saw him as an A grade player so I'll rank the pick the same

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[quote=Mattyk72;550416]13. Washington Redskins
The pick: Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
What he brings: Orakpo came off the board this early because he can get to the quarterback. He has excellent first-step quickness, he can redirect insider after starting outside and has better closing speed than his 4.7 40 suggests. That's not to say he can't defend the run. He has excellent upper-body strength and is tough at the point of attack. Still, he could stand to add five to 10 pounds to his frame.

How he fits: Washington must have been ecstatic that a pass-rusher of Orakpo's caliber was around at the 13th pick. He fills an immediate need with the departure of Jason Taylor combined with an aging Renaldo Wynn and Phillip Daniels. He is a nice addition to play opposite of Andre Carter and next to Cornelius Griffin and Albert Haynesworth in forming one of the better defensive lines in the NFC.

[URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/insider/news/story?id=4099731"]Pick-by-pick analysis - NFL - ESPN[/URL][/quote]

I'm not an ESPN insider but thanks

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;550426]I suppose I am just gunshy after last years injuries:[/quote]
yeah, sprains and strains are a lot better than tears and blowouts though

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[quote=Mattyk72;550433]I like the pick. With him and AH if we can't get to the QB this year we never will.[/quote]
so with AH and orakpo how much do we do the 100% technique and look for the run first?

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[quote=NM Redskin;550456]So best starting front four in the NFL, Cater Grif, Hay, and Rak? On paper looks like it.

Also gotta love Rak's answer to what he was gonna buy with his first pick. A huge bed, nice. Also he looked generally happy to get pick by Wash.[/quote]

look a lil north

but yeah he looked happy

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[quote=tryfuhl;550559]look a lil north

but yeah he looked happy[/quote]
:frusty:Unfortunately, I agree..

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Great pic, FO did a great job putting a solid D-Line together this offseason. What are we gonna do with the 3rd round pick? Do we have a starting OLB? I say use the pick to address that need or an O-Line man.

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[quote=Chico23231;550579]Great pic, FO did a great job putting a solid D-Line together this offseason. What are we gonna do with the 3rd round pick? Do we have a starting OLB? I say use the pick to address that need or an O-Line man.[/quote]
I guess at this point best player available between the two.?

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An OL would have been great but this is a beyond incredible piece of luck for the Skins that he dropped to 13. Now, the skins have a d line that can kind of match up with that fearsome line from NY.

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Orakpo is a beast this is who I wanted from the start!!! I excited about our defense bring back MW at linebacker vet min and let's get to work.

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[quote=nimbh2;550410]i would hate to be the opposing qb carter haynesworth and orakpo[/quote]

don't forget Griff, which will play a big part as well. If there's no pass rush this year then there's one serious problem-HAIL

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;550584]Orakpo is a beast this is who I wanted from the start!!! I excited about our defense bring back MW at linebacker vet min and let's get to work.[/quote]

I agree...more important now than ever to get Marcus back in case the Orakpo @ SLB experiment doesn't work (assuming that's what Blache tries to do).

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I gave it an A. I can't believe we got him at 13 and glad we filled the need. God bless the Jets!!

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Yeah Baby!

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[quote=dirtythirty;550600]I gave it an A. I can't believe we got him at 13 and glad we filled the need. [B]God bless the Jets!![/B][/quote]

Even though I mentioned the same thing, it seems more and more that Sanchez was a smoke screen. Although Orakpo falling to us was mainly due to all these surprise picks (i.e. Hey-Bey pick, etc., etc.).

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[quote=Ruhskins;550625]Even though I mentioned the same thing, it seems more and more that Sanchez was a smoke screen. Although Orakpo falling to us was mainly due to all these surprise picks (i.e. Hey-Bey pick, etc., etc.).[/quote]
Yeah, if Crabtree got taken by OAK then you'd think SF prob would've picked something other than WR, giving Orakpo at least another chance to be taken

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Great Pic very happy, can't wait for the season to start, please no training camp injuries we had our fill last season.

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To have player this caliber available is really quite a bonus for us. We're talking about the best true pass-rushing end in the draft. To me we needed a OT more but Orakpo is relatively a better prospect than Oher. So Oher at a position of great need versus Orakpo at a position of somewhat lesser need sorta washes mathematically to me. Default to taking the better player and let the chips fall. Nobody should be disappointed.

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I have been hoping against all hopes that the Sanchez stuff was just an elaborate ruse invovling all parties, including JC.

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I like that McShay projects his best position in the NFL as a 4-3 DE.

I wonder if Rob Jackson will give him his college number 98? I wonder if Rob Jackson will make the team now for that matter...

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[quote=FRPLG;550643]To have player this caliber available is really quite a bonus for us. We're talking about the best true pass-rushing end in the draft. To me we needed a OT more but Orakpo is relatively a better prospect than Oher. So Oher at a position of great need versus Orakpo at a position of somewhat lesser need sorta washes mathematically to me. Default to taking the better player and let the chips fall. Nobody should be disappointed.[/quote]

Getting Haynesworth makes the Orakpo pick that much more valuable. To get the kind of push up the middle we're going to have now with a DT rotation of Big Al, a healthy Griffin (who apparently is looking the best he has since his first year with the Skins), Monty, and Golston... Let's just say AC and Orakpo are going to have their ears pinned back. I can't wait.

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Yes, Sanchez clearly was a smoke screen. I'd like to offer props to 53Fan, Slingin' Sammy, CRedskinsRule, and 724SkinsFan for having both the courage and insight to share that with us before the draft even started. Those guys know what they are talking about!

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[quote=GMScud;548243]Promising Sanchez the keys to the car from day one would basically cancel out Campbell. His trade value would plummet, and he'd likely walk after '09. Not to mention what it would do to the locker room. Snyder was just going status quo. With Campbell on the team, Sanchez would have to compete for the job. That's a no brainer. That doesn't mean Campbell couldn't be traded after drafting Sanchez. At least we're not tipping our hand in that regard. Currently, telling him anything other than what we are would be foolish. [B]At this point I'd say it's possible (however unlikely), that we're running a good bluff.[/B][/quote]

I'd like to thank myself for realizing the possibility- I just didn't think we were actually smart enough to do it. I'd also like to thank the FO office for wisely using Danny's past history as a great tool to create the smokescreen. And lastly, I'd like to thank the Raiders for drafting Heyward-Bey.

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[quote=GMScud;550648]I like that McShay projects his best position in the NFL as a 4-3 DE.

I wonder if Rob Jackson will give him his college number 98? I wonder if Rob Jackson will make the team now for that matter...[/quote]

I remember Jason Taylor speaking highly of Rob Jackson. So, let's see what the preseason has in store.

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[quote=GMScud;550651]Getting Haynesworth makes the Orakpo pick that much more valuable. To get the kind of push up the middle we're going to have now with a DT rotation of Big Al, a healthy Griffin (who apparently is looking the best he has since his first year with the Skins), Monty, and Golston... Let's just say AC and Orakpo are going to have their ears pinned back. I can't wait.[/quote]

I mean, seriously. Let's take an optimistic approach and project Orakpo out as good as we think he is. Doing that we start Orakpo, Griffin, Haynesworth, Carter. Even if we drop him back to SAM we still have improved our front 4 or 7 immensely. Like going from one of the worst(front 4) or average(front 7) to a top 10 unit in both cases. One of our biggest weaknesses becomes a strength.

If we can find one OT capable of not getting JC killed and some depth guys on the OL who, again, don't get JC killed then our OL can be fine. I mean getting a good RT would have still left issues on the OL that'll need to be fixed via shrewed veteran acquisitions and hopeful progression of younger guys. But improving the DLine was essentially impossible using that same strategy. Historically, there aren't difference makers available along the DLine post-draft and we don't have even any real hope for young contributers with growth potential in-house. Guys like Wilson, Alexander and Jackson while sexy in some respect have serious weaknesses that involve unimprovable attributes like size and speed. They have roles but every down starters they aren't At least not on a good line.

I'm actually ecstatic with this pick.

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[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009-nfl-draft/-after-a-2008-season.html]Redskins Insider - The Orakpo Plan: 'He's Going to Play'[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;550418]I gave it a B, only because I wanted Oher. But if he gets Double Digit sacks, I will raise it up to an A++[/quote]


I agree that OT was more pressing but i think this pick was a no brainer...I was hoping we might trade (somehow) to get Oher too- but i'm glad we have our 2010 first rounder still in the bag.

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I wonder if signing Mike Williams was the difference between Oher and Orakpo?

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Let's send a thank you card to Al Davis for drafting Heyward-Bey, who slid Crabtree down, and slid Orakpo down to us. We benefited from Al's speed obsession.

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[quote=Beemnseven;550686]I wonder if signing Mike Williams was the difference between Oher and Orakpo?[/quote]
Well Vinny and Danny said that it wouldn't be, but who knows.. a lot of people said that Oher was a fair separation from the top 3.. and early on the talk was of the top 3 OTs and it's fairly recent that it became a discussion of the top 4

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[quote=itvnetop;550423]If we're relying on Orakpo to drop back and cover TEs, we've got bigger problems in the front 7.

This was a sick pick and we were lucky to land him... the dude is a straight beast upfield and we're going to see a totally changed defense with a line that can blow up things for the backers.

Watch the secondary get more INTs, too.[/quote]

It's amazing how well our secondary has been last couple years considering we've gotten zero pressure on the qb. Really looking forward to this year.

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[quote=DIRTEE;550674]I remember Jason Taylor speaking highly of Rob Jackson. So, let's see what the preseason has in store.[/quote]
Taylor had positive things to say while in DC?

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[quote=Zerohero;550690]It's amazing how well our secondary has been last couple years considering we've gotten zero pressure on the qb. Really looking forward to this year.[/quote]
Yep, just hope that we can keep Carlos.. if not we'll definitely need some help there cuz if he's gone and with Smoot likely being gone.. well yeah

edit: next year that is

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[quote=FRPLG;550675]I mean, seriously. Let's take an optimistic approach and project Orakpo out as good as we think he is. Doing that we start Orakpo, Griffin, Haynesworth, Carter. Even if we drop him back to SAM we still have improved our front 4 or 7 immensely. Like going from one of the worst(front 4) or average(front 7) to a top 10 unit in both cases. One of our biggest weaknesses becomes a strength.

If we can find one OT capable of not getting JC killed and some depth guys on the OL who, again, don't get JC killed then our OL can be fine. I mean getting a good RT would have still left issues on the OL that'll need to be fixed via shrewed veteran acquisitions and hopeful progression of younger guys. But improving the DLine was essentially impossible using that same strategy. Historically, there aren't difference makers available along the DLine post-draft and we don't have even any real hope for young contributers with growth potential in-house. Guys like Wilson, Alexander and Jackson while sexy in some respect have serious weaknesses that involve unimprovable attributes like size and speed. They have roles but every down starters they aren't At least not on a good line.

I'm actually ecstatic with this pick.[/quote]

Yup. I agree with everything you just said.

I too am ecstatic with this pick. I really didn't think he'd fall to us at all. I love that we had the pick turned in after about 20 seconds, and we had a jersey ready with his name on it. LOL! Smitten with Sanchez my ass. We were drooling over Orakpo.