Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;553426]What if Duke Robinson becomes a bust or doesnt ever crack the starting lineup, then wouldn't it be smart that we didnt pick him? People didnt agree with the Chris Horton pick and I think that worked out pretty well dont you?

And welcome by the way![/quote]

While I agree that the thread is useless in that "it doesn't really matter now" (um, does talking about the Redskins on the internet ever "really matter"?) I have to disagree with the premise that "People didn't agree with the Chris Horton pick a year ago. I am not picking on you particularly, I have just seen that logic thrown around a ton (mostly on NFL.com message boards) and it just strikes me as completely false. My sense is that no one really cared much about the Chris Horton pick because he was drafted with a compensatory 7th and was like three picks from being "Mr. Irrelevant." So I have trouble believing anyone was really bashing the Horton pick, just not true. To confirm that I went back and searched this site and found the following "meet Christopher Horton" thread. Couple people said they really liked the pick, couple were questioning ESPN.com's rating system, but no one was basing Chris Horton (most people probably didn't think he would make the team, and didn't really care since he was drafted so late).

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-central/23352-christopher-horton-profile.html[/url]

The reason that people are hanging on to the 5th round pick this year is because there were a couple of guys sitting there that everyone on the internet had rated much higher. Since everyone is now a draft expert it causes some irritation. I was preturbed at the time of the pick too and really wanted Meredith there. After listening to some local sports guys here in Columbia discuss him in the past couple of days I am not so sure. They basically said he always looked the part but didn't always come to play (I'm not a Gamecock fan, I didn't watch any games this year). Anyway, that was probably the info the USC coaches (do they still speak with Spurrier?) gave to the Skins and to other NFL teams. They probably also saw that inconsistentcy on tape. Hell, the guy even got moved inside to guard, not exactly a move you want to see from a guy you are projecting at either tackle spot. Whatever, I agree, pick is made, move on. But just don't throw out Horton's name to support your argument.

And I'm sure no one will read this whole post. Apologies for the length.

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=SC Skins Fan;553434]While I agree that the thread is useless in that "it doesn't really matter now" (um, does talking about the Redskins on the internet ever "really matter"?) I have to disagree with the premise that "People didn't agree with the Chris Horton pick a year ago. I am not picking on you particularly, I have just seen that logic thrown around a ton (mostly on NFL.com message boards) and it just strikes me as completely false. My sense is that no one really cared much about the Chris Horton pick because he was drafted with a compensatory 7th and was like three picks from being "Mr. Irrelevant." So I have trouble believing anyone was really bashing the Horton pick, just not true. To confirm that I went back and searched this site and found the following "meet Christopher Horton" thread. Couple people said they really liked the pick, couple were questioning ESPN.com's rating system, but no one was basing Chris Horton (most people probably didn't think he would make the team, and didn't really care since he was drafted so late).

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-central/23352-christopher-horton-profile.html[/url]

The reason that people are hanging on to the 5th round pick this year is because there were a couple of guys sitting there that everyone on the internet had rated much higher. Since everyone is now a draft expert it causes some irritation. I was preturbed at the time of the pick too and really wanted Meredith there. After listening to some local sports guys here in Columbia discuss him in the past couple of days I am not so sure. They basically said he always looked the part but didn't always come to play (I'm not a Gamecock fan, I didn't watch any games this year). Anyway, that was probably the info the USC coaches (do they still speak with Spurrier?) gave to the Skins and to other NFL teams. They probably also saw that inconsistentcy on tape. Hell, the guy even got moved inside to guard, not exactly a move you want to see from a guy you are projecting at either tackle spot. Whatever, I agree, pick is made, move on. But just don't throw out Horton's name to support your argument.

[B]And I'm sure no one will read this whole post.[/B] Apologies for the length.[/quote]

Actually I did and think it was a good post. Obviously we're not privy to as much info as the scouts, therefore our knowledge of the player is not as great as theirs. As much as we think we know, we don't know as much as they do.

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=SC Skins Fan;553434]While I agree that the thread is useless in that "it doesn't really matter now" (um, does talking about the Redskins on the internet ever "really matter"?) I have to disagree with the premise that "People didn't agree with the Chris Horton pick a year ago. I am not picking on you particularly, I have just seen that logic thrown around a ton (mostly on NFL.com message boards) and it just strikes me as completely false. My sense is that no one really cared much about the Chris Horton pick because he was drafted with a compensatory 7th and was like three picks from being "Mr. Irrelevant." So I have trouble believing anyone was really bashing the Horton pick, just not true. To confirm that I went back and searched this site and found the following "meet Christopher Horton" thread. Couple people said they really liked the pick, couple were questioning ESPN.com's rating system, but no one was basing Chris Horton (most people probably didn't think he would make the team, and didn't really care since he was drafted so late).

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-central/23352-christopher-horton-profile.html[/URL]

The reason that people are hanging on to the 5th round pick this year is because there were a couple of guys sitting there that everyone on the internet had rated much higher. Since everyone is now a draft expert it causes some irritation. I was preturbed at the time of the pick too and really wanted Meredith there. After listening to some local sports guys here in Columbia discuss him in the past couple of days I am not so sure. They basically said he always looked the part but didn't always come to play (I'm not a Gamecock fan, I didn't watch any games this year). Anyway, that was probably the info the USC coaches (do they still speak with Spurrier?) gave to the Skins and to other NFL teams. They probably also saw that inconsistentcy on tape. Hell, the guy even got moved inside to guard, not exactly a move you want to see from a guy you are projecting at either tackle spot. Whatever, I agree, pick is made, move on. But just don't throw out Horton's name to support your argument.

And I'm sure no one will read this whole post. Apologies for the length.[/quote]


not saying they were bashing it but people were upset because they didnt want us to draft 2 safeties i am saying you never know who is going to step up both mereidith and robinson vould suck they could be stars just let it play out before saying "why didnt we draft this guy"

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=Ruhskins;553430]Hence this whole thread. LOL.[/quote]


And so the story goes...........

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=SC Skins Fan;553434][B]The reason that people are hanging on to the 5th round pick this year is because there were a couple of guys sitting there that everyone on the internet had rated much higher. Since everyone is now a draft expert it causes some irritation.[/B] I was preturbed at the time of the pick too and really wanted Meredith there. After listening to some local sports guys here in Columbia discuss him in the past couple of days I am not so sure. They basically said he always looked the part but didn't always come to play (I'm not a Gamecock fan, I didn't watch any games this year). Anyway, that was probably the info the USC coaches (do they still speak with Spurrier?) gave to the Skins and to other NFL teams. They probably also saw that inconsistentcy on tape. Hell, the guy even got moved inside to guard, not exactly a move you want to see from a guy you are projecting at either tackle spot. Whatever, I agree, pick is made, move on. But just don't throw out Horton's name to support your argument.

And I'm sure no one will read this whole post. Apologies for the length.[/quote]

Good post. I think some of us just get tired of the constant mindless negativity, like this whole thread. While yes, this is the internet, I think the people that run this site encourage people to make some type of argument if you are praising/criticizing something or someone in the team, and not just blurt out a rant. Yes, the FO has made stupid mistakes, but don't act like EVERYTHING they do is stupid.

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;553354]Jessica Alba.[/quote]

Dido would work for me.

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

I would have gone with Duke...but he fell down the draft board for some reason. It wasn't just the skins who were passing on him so it's hard to point any fingers at the Redskins for doing the same.

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=RedNJ;553432]Duke Robinson...Great size and a workhorse in college. Him and Phil Loadholt dominated defenses at Oklahoma. Yes I know this isn't college but this pick would have obviously added depth. I hope Devon Clark and Chad Linehart get some playing time this season. What's the story with Pete Kendell? Does the team plan on resigning him?[/quote]

Dev[b]i[/b]n Clark and Chad [b]R[/b]inehart are slated to get a lot of reps in training camp and are expected to provide depth along the interior line. Pete Kend[b]a[/b]ll is a free agent still looking for a starting job somewhere. Expect him to re-sign right before camp if he's not signed anywhere else.

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=Ruhskins;553360]Jessica Alba? Hmm Good choice there. I'm not sure who I would have taken. Oh wait, I know, Scarlett Johansson.[/quote]

It is insightful comments like these which keep me on the Warpath.

Scarlett Johansson brings it. Excellent physical condition, good attitude, positive presence in the locker room.

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

If we were going to draft a OLB in the 5th round, I wish we wouldn't have traded down and would have gotten Marcus Freeman...but since we did trade down, I would have gone with Duke Robinson

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

Ruhskins - don't mean to be critical starting a thread like this - I was just curious as to who Redskins fans would have rather have had with the 5th round pick between the lb they choose and the supposedly 2 best offensive linemen remaining on the board when they had the pick - thats all.

Personally I hope Glenn kicks ass and is a starter for years to come - I guess I just fear that our offensive line is not going to last too much longer and was hoping some draft picks in this area would start helping the team transition (over the next few years) and not get our qb killed in the process.

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=Lotus;553471]It is insightful comments like these which keep me on the Warpath.

[B]Scarlett Johansson brings it[/B]. Excellent physical condition, good attitude, positive presence in the locker room.[/quote]

She has a nice TE. I wish she could play center.....well..for a couple of reasons actually. :)

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=Bill B;553502]Ruhskins - don't mean to be critical starting a thread like this - I was just curious as to who Redskins fans would have rather have had with the 5th round pick between the lb they choose and the supposedly 2 best offensive linemen remaining on the board when they had the pick - thats all.

Personally I hope Glenn kicks ass and is a starter for years to come - I guess I just fear that our offensive line is not going to last too much longer and was hoping some draft picks in this area would start helping the team transition (over the next few years) and not get our qb killed in the process.[/quote]

No worries man, sorry for being overly critical. It's just that I was posting a lot during the draft and this topic was discussed to death. I blame it on the Orakpo/Arrington thread. LOL.

[quote=Lotus;553471]It is insightful comments like these which keep me on the Warpath.

Scarlett Johansson brings it. Excellent physical condition, good attitude, positive presence in the locker room.[/quote]

Did you put on your Mel Kiper wig and glasses to post this thread? LOL. :laughing2

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

Anyone besides Glenn I would've been fine with in the 5th and I think Meredeth can be RT in the future, but we can't change the pick so I just hope Glenn kicks ass.

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

Either duke or jamon which ever could play RT
Not Cody Glenn cause I've never heard of him

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=Nflnick11;553592]Either duke or jamon which ever could play RT
[B]Not Cody Glenn cause I've never heard of him[/B][/quote]

There that settles it, call the FO, tell them to fire the scout who brought this guy to our attention, and at the same time fire Vinny and JZ since they wasted their time talking to the coach, and did not inform nflnick of the potential they saw in Mr Glenn.

[/sarcasm]

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

Neither, I was hoping we would have selected Marcus Freeman out of OSU. He is a freakish athlete and played well for the buckeyes on special teams and in a back up 3rd down linebacker. He can cover and pressure the QB, and wrap-up tackle.

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;553594]There that settles it, call the FO, tell them to fire the scout who brought this guy to our attention, and at the same time fire Vinny and JZ since they wasted their time talking to the coach, and did not inform nflnick of the potential they saw in Mr Glenn.

[/sarcasm][/quote]

So your saying you liked this guy and you've heard of him?!?
This might sound weird, but have you ever been able to look at a players name and be like ya I couldn't see his name being called in the NFL when he's on the field..well I do that, and about 90% of the time I'm right about how I think will stay and who'll be gone and out of the league...yes i know its unfair and innaccurate judgement, but my point is that I don't see but two or three of these guys making an impact or sticking to the NFL, I also watch college football religiously and for the few Nebraska games I saw, I heard glenns name once, and that was when he is an RB...not at LB so I'm gonna call it now that this guy gets practiced squaded and is out of the league and a wasted pick.....and yes this guy over both of those tremendous OL that were still around at in the fifth is a stupid wasted pick...I heard NFL analysts always talk about merdith and Robinson, and not one talk about this guy..sure this is unfair since none of us had heard of fletcher or kurt warner when they were in college, and we didn't think they would make they're teams but beleive me this guy isn't worth taking over the others who I feel would of had a better NFL future than this chump...(and he already has a bigger mountain to climb because he lied about his suspension)

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=Nflnick11;553761]So your saying you liked this guy and you've heard of him?!?
This might sound weird, but have you ever been able to look at a players name and be like ya I couldn't see his name being called in the NFL when he's on the field..well I do that, and about 90% of the time I'm right about how I think will stay and who'll be gone and out of the league...yes i know its unfair and innaccurate judgement, but my point is that I don't see but two or three of these guys making an impact or sticking to the NFL, I also watch college football religiously and for the few Nebraska games I saw, I heard glenns name once, and that was when he is an RB...not at LB so I'm gonna call it now that this guy gets practiced squaded and is out of the league and a wasted pick.....and yes this guy over both of those tremendous OL that were still around at in the fifth is a stupid wasted pick...I heard NFL analysts always talk about merdith and Robinson, and not one talk about this guy..sure this is unfair since none of us had heard of fletcher or kurt warner when they were in college, and we didn't think they would make they're teams but beleive me this guy isn't worth taking over the others who I feel would of had a better NFL future than this chump...(and he already has a bigger mountain to climb because he lied about his suspension)[/quote]

shit then the NFL should fire kiper and hire you (or at the very least McShay)

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[B]FA OT we should be looking at since we didnt draft any [/B]
Charles Spencer OT Jags
Ephram Salam OT Texans
Mark Tauscher OT Green Bay
Jonas Jennings OT 49er's

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=ChickenMonkey;553776][B]FA OT we should be looking at since we didnt draft any [/B]
Charles Spencer OT Jags
Ephram Salam OT Texans
Mark Tauscher OT Green Bay
Jonas Jennings OT 49er's[/quote]

Tauscher hasn't been cut yet, no?

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=Nflnick11;553761]So your saying you liked this guy and you've heard of him?!?
This might sound weird, but have you ever been able to look at a players name and be like ya I couldn't see his name being called in the NFL when he's on the field..well I do that, and about 90% of the time I'm right about how I think will stay and who'll be gone and out of the league...yes i know its unfair and innaccurate judgement, but my point is that I don't see but two or three of these guys making an impact or sticking to the NFL, I also watch college football religiously and for the few Nebraska games I saw, I heard glenns name once, and that was when he is an RB...not at LB so I'm gonna call it now that this guy gets practiced squaded and is out of the league and a wasted pick.....and yes this guy over both of those tremendous OL that were still around at in the fifth is a stupid wasted pick...[B]I heard NFL analysts always talk about merdith and Robinson, and not one talk about this guy[/B]..sure this is unfair since none of us had heard of fletcher or kurt warner when they were in college, and we didn't think they would make they're teams but beleive me this guy isn't worth taking over the others who I feel would of had a better NFL future than this chump...(and he already has a bigger mountain to climb because he lied about his suspension)[/quote]

1st. You're ranting over a 5th round pick. Not all teams draft picks are going to be winners and each team has its own reasons for picking a player.

2nd. Robinson and Meridith were projected 2nd/3rd rounders, yet 30 teams passed on these guys until late in the 5th round.

3rd. I still think that if the team was going to address the offensive line, the sure thing would have been picking up Oher at 13th. They didn't, so let's not pretend that a 3rd, 5th, 6th, or 7th round would have fixed that.

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=Nflnick11;553761]So your saying you liked this guy and you've heard of him?!?
This might sound weird, but have you ever been able to look at a players name and be like ya I couldn't see his name being called in the NFL when he's on the field..well I do that, and about 90% of the time I'm right about how I think will stay and who'll be gone and out of the league...yes i know its unfair and innaccurate judgement, but my point is that I don't see but two or three of these guys making an impact or sticking to the NFL, I also watch college football religiously and for the few Nebraska games I saw, I heard glenns name once, and that was when he is an RB...not at LB so I'm gonna call it now that this guy gets practiced squaded and is out of the league and a wasted pick.....and yes this guy over both of those tremendous OL that were still around at in the fifth is a stupid wasted pick...I heard NFL analysts always talk about merdith and Robinson, and not one talk about this guy..sure this is unfair since none of us had heard of fletcher or kurt warner when they were in college, and we didn't think they would make they're teams but beleive me this guy isn't worth taking over the others who I feel would of had a better NFL future than this chump...(and he already has a bigger mountain to climb because he lied about his suspension)[/quote]

I also remember NFL analysts talking about Cade McNown, Akili Smith, Tim Couch, and Robert Gallery. But, none talked about Tom Brady like that, and just to emphasize Ruhskin's point you are making it seem like MEreidth or Robinson would have come in from day one and made the pro bowl.

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;553821]I also remember NFL analysts talking about Cade McNown, Akili Smith, Tim Couch, and Robert Gallery. But, none talked about Tom Brady like that, and just to emphasize Ruhskin's point you are making it seem like MEreidth or Robinson would have come in from day one and made the pro bowl.[/quote]

No I'm saying that they would of had a better chance of starting or playing a lot than this Glenn guy

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;553765]shit then the NFL should fire kiper and hire you (or at the very least McShay)[/quote]

Fire mcshay hire me...you clearly don't get my point, the point is that this guy is a no name and the other two where names, this guy when he got drafted I'm sure pretty much all skin fans were like "who the hell is that" (same with eddie Williams, but that's another story) this guy wasn't even that productive in college, he won't stay on our team whereas one of those two guards probably would have...you know and I k ow this , your just trying to disprove my point

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=Nflnick11;553858]Fire mcshay hire me...you clearly don't get my point, the point is that this guy is a no name and the other two where names, this guy when he got drafted I'm sure pretty much all skin fans were like "who the hell is that" (same with eddie Williams, but that's another story) this guy wasn't even that productive in college, he won't stay on our team whereas one of those two guards [B]probably[/B] would have...you know and I k ow this , your just trying to disprove my point[/quote]


So your not even sure of your own argument? How do you know that he won't stay on the team? Did you talk to the Skins FO? He was a fifth rounder. I don't know any fifth rounder that signs a 6year 70million dollar deal. Just because you don't know who he is doesnt mean that he wont stay on the team.

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=Nflnick11;553854]No I'm saying that they would of had a better chance of starting or playing a lot than this Glenn guy[/quote]


How do you know? For all we know they would not be able to pass Reinart on the depth chart. There is a reason they both slipped so fa.r

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

This is probably one of the more pointless threads we've had to choose from.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU WOULD RATHER HAVE...THEY ARE ON OTHER TEAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=Son Of Man;553908]This is probably one of the more pointless threads we've had to choose from.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU WOULD RATHER HAVE...THEY ARE ON OTHER TEAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]


actually there are alot more pointless out there, and no need to yell.

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;553867]So your not even sure of your own argument? How do you know that he won't stay on the team? Did you talk to the Skins FO? He was a fifth rounder. I don't know any fifth rounder that signs a 6year 70million dollar deal. Just because you don't know who he is doesnt mean that he wont stay on the team.[/quote]

My point is that Glenn won't be good and will probably be cut

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;553915]actually there are alot more pointless out there, and no need to yell.[/quote]

My bad dude! I'm going a little stir crazy with no good football news out there post-draft. I need a fix!!! Maybe I'll start watching the Caps.

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=Nflnick11;553956]My point is that Glenn won't be good and will probably be cut[/quote]

Well I can accept that, but don't say that we should've taken the two offensive linemen who were projected as 2nd/3rd rounders yet they fell all the way down to the late 5th round.

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

I don't think that any of them will be available in next year's draft, so I really don't have an opinion.

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

[quote=tryfuhl;554012]I don't think that any of them will be available in next year's draft, so I really don't have an opinion.[/quote]


good point

Re: Who would you rather have in round 5 - Cody Glenn or Jamon Meredith/Duke Robinson?
 

I saw OU play three times last year and I was impressed by Robinson (and Loadholt too) in each game.

On that basis, I would have to say that I would have taken Robinson in the 5th round.