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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;556321]So you see a lot of shady guys selling cigarettes and booze in dark alleys?[/quote]

Somebody will always be selling something in the alley.

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mredskins, IMO he's probably selling dime bags. You said he's a grown man living with his folks, so chances are he isn't smart enough to have anything more organized going on than small time stuff. Drug deals made on the corner with 2 second hand shakes aren't exactly big time. But I understand your concern. I think his hands up in the air "what" motion pretty much tips it off. If he wasn't doing anything shady, he wouldn't give a shit who glances in his direction as they're driving by.

You already took a good first step by calling the police. You mentioned how tight knit your community is. I would use this to your advantage. Alert your neighbors. Maybe if the entire neighborhood starts giving this dude the eye he'll knock it off. Or at least take his business elsewhere.

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I would flip the situation...now that this vermin knows you're onto him you may just get a good deal on some killer herb...you know, if you promise to not rat him out ;)

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The song is dedicated to all the people that lived above the buildings that I was hustlin' in front of that called the police on me when I was just tryin' to make some money to feed my daughter...

djnemo65 says stop the snitching.

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[quote=djnemo65;556381]The song is dedicated to all the people that lived above the buildings that I was hustlin' in front of that called the police on me when I was just tryin' to make some money to feed my daughter...

djnemo65 says stop the snitching.[/quote]

it was all a dream...

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shoot first ask questions later.

I keed I keed. As an ex "drug dealer" myself, I'm not sure I'd freak out about it. If the guy was anything dangerous, he'd probably be more careful, and not be peddling small amounts of drugs in a neighborhood. If he's in his twenties, and someone's adult son, the guys probably got nothing else to do but cause problems for you and get high and think of ways to do it.

If you call the cops, they will probably harass him, and even if they do catch him peddling pot or whatever, its not like he's going to disappear.

If you have some balls, and are a fairly confident man, approach him and ask him what he's doing. Do some business of your own. Negotiate with him that if he takes his business off of your street and onto the next one you wont mess with him/call police/shoot him, whatever is best matched to your personality. Just mean what you say. OR offer him a small amount of money to take his business elsewhere. I would have respected that back in the day.

By the time most dealers start worrying about guns and stuff they're beyond street peddling.

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[quote=EternalEnigma21;556426]shoot first ask questions later.

I keed I keed. As an ex "drug dealer" myself, I'm not sure I'd freak out about it. If the guy was anything dangerous, he'd probably be more careful, and not be peddling small amounts of drugs in a neighborhood. If he's in his twenties, and someone's adult son, the guys probably got nothing else to do but cause problems for you and get high and think of ways to do it.

If you call the cops, they will probably harass him, and even if they do catch him peddling pot or whatever, its not like he's going to disappear.

If you have some balls, and are a fairly confident man, approach him and ask him what he's doing. Do some business of your own. Negotiate with him that if he takes his business off of your street and onto the next one you wont mess with him/call police/shoot him, whatever is best matched to your personality. Just mean what you say. OR offer him a small amount of money to take his business elsewhere. I would have respected that back in the day.

By the time most dealers start worrying about guns and stuff they're beyond street peddling.[/quote]

I prefer "former entrepreneur" myself.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;556435]I prefer "former entrepreneur" myself.[/quote]

:laughing2 Good one. Yeah it's kind of a strange time when it comes to the drug culture. Where I live law enforcement now legally considers the possession and sale of herb as the lowest priority issue...i think this was actually based on a vote and from what i understand the same thing is happening all over the country. My guess is within 10 years it's legal in several states...and those states will be awash in nice tax revenues. But it's always gonna be controversial.

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[quote=mredskins;556119]^ I hear where you are coming from but last time I checked drugs don't usually attract the type of people you want hanging around where children play.

Though you did just make me think of something, maybe he is the buyer not the seller? Hmmm... Would you buy multiply times in a day and will drug dealers come to your house? I guess so.[/quote]

You could trust me around your children.

[quote=Mattyk72;556123]Behind closed doors is one thing, but drug deals out in the open is something to be concerned about.[/quote]

Good point. Never understood why people make deals in the open.

[quote=firstdown;556132]So if I decide to have 8 beers and drive home it is my preogative and no one should push their morals on me?[/quote]

In this situation, your actions would directly endanger others. Using drugs can be safe.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;556568]You could trust me around your children.



Good point. Never understood why people make deals in the open.



In this situation, your actions would directly endanger others. Using drugs can be safe.[/quote]
Using drugs can be safe but the trafic of these said drugs have caused thousands and thousands of people to die. Good and Bad guys.

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[quote=The Goat;556436]:laughing2 Good one. Yeah it's kind of a strange time when it comes to the drug culture. Where I live law enforcement now legally considers the possession and sale of herb as the lowest priority issue...i think this was actually based on a vote and from what i understand the same thing is happening all over the country. My guess is within 10 years it's legal in several states...and those states will be awash in nice tax revenues. But it's always gonna be controversial.[/quote]
Not sure how the states will get around the federal law making drugs illegal.

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[quote=firstdown;556635]Not sure how the states will get around the federal law making drugs illegal.[/quote]

Nullification.

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[quote=firstdown;556635]Not sure how the states will get around the federal law making drugs illegal.[/quote]

They can decriminalize it and make it legal to have. I forgot the name of the county, but its in North Cali and it is legal to grow and have weed.

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[quote=hooskins;556651]They can decriminalize it and make it legal to have. I forgot the name of the county, but its in North Cali and it is legal to grow and have weed.[/quote]

I think you're referring to Humboldt County, but I don't think it's legal to grow it there...

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;556642]Nullification.[/quote]

I thought the Civil War decided the viability of nullification.

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[quote=saden1;556720]I thought the Civil War decided the viability of nullification.[/quote]

You thought wrong once again. Oklahoma just signed into law saying they reserve the right as a soverign state to nullify any federal law on guns manufactured in their state. They have de facto banned gun control in their state and reserved the right to regulate guns the way they see fit, end of story. Many states are nullifying federal laws they find intrusive.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;556055][IMG]http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/Bronson.bmp[/IMG][/quote]

Paul Kersey! Yes! Nice pic man. Those Death Wish movies rule, especially Death Wish 3.

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[quote=mredskins;556048]Ok if everyone had that attuide then the drug dealers would run our neigborhoods. You can't live in fear and all I did was look at him. He lives with his mommy and daddy and sells pot on the side, this is not Scarface. I don't think he is going to cut me up in my bath tub with a chain saw.

Anyways I took an early lunch went to the police station told my story and they were about as excited as Julia Child would be to eat my home made tacos from the box. Basically he is small fry to the cops in my area becasue they have this place called Edgewood in their jursdiaction that is just littered with gangs and drugs. They took my info and alerted the patrol in my area. Oh well I tried. The cop told me to avoid him and would be highly surprised if he did anything becasue the last thing they want is attention. I mean there really is not much they can do at this point. What would be great is if they raided his house like in Point Break when I am cutting the grass but highly unlikley.[/quote]

So the cops told you the same thing that I did, yet I'm wrong, I fail to see how that works.

I didn't say live in fear and you admitted that you have no reason to fear, your post is so circular I've become dizzy.

Is your neighborhood overrun with dealers? No.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;556054]What do your neighbors have to say about this? Call the police. Even if he's a low baller that doesn't mean he'll not turn on his guy. Cops love getting little fish that lead to the whopper. Why don't you just go out there an confront him, I would. Just make sure you're packing heat. Say, hey listen if your out here selling dope then you need to stop. I called the police and if they don't lock you up I'll take care of you. The cops can't be everywhere at once. They're more of a deterrent than anything. It's up to you to decide what's best for your family. Once he knows that eyes are watching then he'll stop being so open, if he's smart.[/quote]

Yeah, make veiled threats. If you're going out there with a gun to scare him, tax him instead.

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[quote=GMScud;556324]mredskins, IMO he's probably selling dime bags. You said he's a grown man living with his folks, so chances are he isn't smart enough to have anything more organized going on than small time stuff. Drug deals made on the corner with 2 second hand shakes aren't exactly big time. But I understand your concern. I think his hands up in the air "what" motion pretty much tips it off. If he wasn't doing anything shady, he wouldn't give a shit who glances in his direction as they're driving by.

You already took a good first step by calling the police. You mentioned how tight knit your community is. I would use this to your advantage. [b]Alert your neighbors.[/b] Maybe if the entire neighborhood starts giving this dude the eye he'll knock it off. Or at least take his business elsewhere.[/quote]

this.. and ask if they've seen anything

do you know the kid's parents?

it's a shame even when we're neighbors we usually hardly know each other anymore

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[quote=firstdown;556634]Using drugs can be safe but the trafic of these said drugs have caused thousands and thousands of people to die. Good and Bad guys.[/quote]

mostly because they're illegal

not all drugs should be legal, but yeah

there've been plenty of people killed over cars, property, clothing, etc too

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;556724]You thought wrong once again. Oklahoma just signed into law saying they reserve the right as a soverign state to nullify any federal law on guns manufactured in their state. They have de facto banned gun control in their state and reserved the right to regulate guns the way they see fit, end of story. Many states are nullifying federal laws they find intrusive.[/quote]


You can't nullify something that hasn't been instituted yet. We'll just have to see who will blink...the feds or states. I'm taking the feds.

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[quote=tryfuhl;556746]So the cops told you the same thing that I did, yet I'm wrong, I fail to see how that works.

I didn't say live in fear and you admitted that you have no reason to fear, your post is so circular I've become dizzy.

Is your neighborhood overrun with dealers? No.[/quote]


No offense dude but I hardly listen to you. I have a general rule on here, if you have been around for just a around a year and have almost 2k post chances are you have diarrhea of the mouth. See EQ for example.

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[quote=firstdown;556634]Using drugs can be safe but the trafic of these said drugs have caused thousands and thousands of people to die. Good and Bad guys.[/quote]

True. Guess it depends on the type of drugs and the quantity.

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[quote=tryfuhl;556747]Yeah, make veiled threats. If you're going out there with a gun to scare him, tax him instead.[/quote]

What's so veiled about that?

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[quote=mredskins;556772]No offense dude but I hardly listen to you. I have a general rule on here, if you have been around for just a around a year and have almost 2k post chances are you have diarrhea of the mouth. See EQ for example.[/quote]

Jeez...no offense eh?

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[quote=SmootSmack;556829]Jeez...no offense eh?[/quote]


Ok it was offensive, =) sue me.

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Just checking my post count...

(around 1600)

Uh oh I am in big trouble now. Guess I better not share any more of my thoughts. See y'all next year.

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[quote=saden1;556752]You can't nullify something that hasn't been instituted yet. We'll just have to see who will blink...the feds or states. I'm taking the feds.[/quote]

You can nullify all of the Federal regulations that have already been passed. Take California for instance. There is a Federal law prohibiting the sale of Marijuana. Yet the voters of Cali have told the Feds to take a hike and sell it like it's going out of style. Yeah, it's supposed to be for sick people but that's so easy to get around.
Oklahoma doesn't care what Congress or Obama say or do. They're not going to allow the Feds to grab their guns. Just because they say they'll not make new gun or drug legislation doesn't mean the people believe them. Maybe you haven't been keeping up with the news, but there is an ammunition shortage in this country because it's flying off the shelves. Guns shows are doing record business too.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;556834]Just checking my post count...

(around 1600)

Uh oh I am in big trouble now. Guess I better not share any more of my thoughts. See y'all next year.[/quote]

Don't worry. I think as long as you don't sh*t on everyone else's posts then you'll be fine.

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[quote=mredskins;556772]No offense dude but I hardly listen to you. I have a general rule on here, if you have been around for just a around a year and have almost 2k post chances are you have diarrhea of the mouth. See EQ for example.[/quote]

I don't think that's necessarily a good rule. Maybe true in a few instances, but definitely not all. I've been around for here almost 3 years (man, time flies), and have over 5K posts. But that's an average of less than 6 posts per day. I wouldn't call that diarrhea. There are plenty of posters here with high counts who bring a lot to the site.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;556836]You can nullify all of the Federal regulations that have already been passed. Take California for instance. There is a Federal law prohibiting the sale of Marijuana. Yet the voters of Cali have told the Feds to take a hike and sell it like it's going out of style. Yeah, it's supposed to be for sick people but that's so easy to get around.
Oklahoma doesn't care what Congress or Obama say or do. They're not going to allow the Feds to grab their guns. Just because they say they'll not make new gun or drug legislation doesn't mean the people believe them. Maybe you haven't been keeping up with the news, but there is an ammunition shortage in this country because it's flying off the shelves. Guns shows are doing record business too.[/quote]

One thing the government can do is institute a tax on guns and ammo. I've heard a proposed 500% tax increase on ammo is the reason everyone is buying it up -- including me.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;556834]Just checking my post count...

(around 1600)

Uh oh I am in big trouble now. Guess I better not share any more of my thoughts. See y'all next year.[/quote]


I would say you are the expemtion to the rule. I actual enjoy your post.

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To be honest, the best thing you can do is make an anonymous tip to the police & hope that you aren't the only one who saw him & also made calls. The problem with this country today is that there are so many hoops that the cops have to jump thru in order to make a solid arrest, in a situation like this it could take months, even years before they do anything about it. In the meantime, if this guy has any kind of memory whatsoever & happens to see you again & again, he WILL...[b]mark my words[/b], WILL make a move against you in some way. It may not even be him, per say. It could be one of the countless people that he meets on his walks. You won't even know. I have seen it too many times before & have known some rather unsavory people in my life. Trust me, make an anonymous tip & then avoid this guy at all costs. You don't want any retribution from someone who is already breaking the law.

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So, just wanted to give a small follow up on this thread since there seem to be some interest. Basically the DD has left me alone, occasionally says hi and shared a funny moment with me and a treadmill delivery. He has been mainly doing his dealing at the public pool parking lot down the street from me now but still walks through our neighborhood because he lives at his folks to get to the pool.

A couple weeks ago I get a weird piece of mail that is hand written. I open it up and it is a picture of him with his address full name and his police record. It says to look out for him that he is selling drugs in the neighborhood and at the pool and if you see him call the local drug enforcement number. The really kicker is they say he is a registered sex offender in the state of MD. I looked his name up and he is not an offender but how many people will. The letter went to every house in my neighborhood. It has been quit the talk amongst neighbors.

The other thing this person did is late at night they put out garage/yard sale signs but they say Drug Sale with his address and picture. It also says lots of cash on premises.

Well I have not seen my buddy in some time now. We will see how will it works, I am guessing once it dies down he will be back at it.

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[quote=mredskins;570853]So, just wanted to give a small follow up on this thread since there seem to be some interest. Basically the DD has left me alone, occasionally says hi and shared a funny moment with me and a treadmill delivery. He has been mainly doing his dealing at the public pool parking lot down the street from me now but still walks through our neighborhood because he lives at his folks to get to the pool.

A couple weeks ago I get a weird piece of mail that is hand written. I open it up and it is a picture of him with his address full name and his police record. It says to look out for him that he is selling drugs in the neighborhood and at the pool and if you see him call the local drug enforcement number. The really kicker is they say he is a registered sex offender in the state of MD. I looked his name up and he is not an offender but how many people will. The letter went to every house in my neighborhood. It has been quit the talk amongst neighbors.

[B]The other thing this person did is late at night they put out garage/yard sale signs but they say Drug Sale with his address and picture. It also says lots of cash on premises. [/B]

Well I have not seen my buddy in some time now. We will see how will it works, I am guessing once it dies down he will be back at it.[/quote]

Where there is a will there is a way.

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[quote=mredskins;570853]So, just wanted to give a small follow up on this thread since there seem to be some interest. Basically the DD has left me alone, occasionally says hi and shared a funny moment with me and a treadmill delivery. He has been mainly doing his dealing at the public pool parking lot down the street from me now but still walks through our neighborhood because he lives at his folks to get to the pool.

A couple weeks ago I get a weird piece of mail that is hand written. I open it up and it is a picture of him with his address full name and his police record. It says to look out for him that he is selling drugs in the neighborhood and at the pool and if you see him call the local drug enforcement number. The really kicker is they say he is a registered sex offender in the state of MD. I looked his name up and he is not an offender but how many people will. The letter went to every house in my neighborhood. It has been quit the talk amongst neighbors.

The other thing this person did is late at night they put out garage/yard sale signs but they say Drug Sale with his address and picture. It also says lots of cash on premises.

Well I have not seen my buddy in some time now. We will see how will it works, I am guessing once it dies down he will be back at it.[/quote]

Sounds like libel to me. Whoever is doing that stuff should be careful and know the consequences. Nothing will probably come of it, but it could. Anyways, it's nice to see people trying to do something. Problem is, I don't think they have any real proof of the accusations.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;570872][B]Sounds like libel to me.[/B] Whoever is doing that stuff should be careful and know the consequences. Nothing will probably come of it, but it could. Anyways, it's nice to see people trying to do something. Problem is, I don't think they have any real proof of the accusations.[/quote]

Eh. Maybe it's exaggerated, but I tip my hat to whomever took the initiative. It's not like the drug dealer is going to pursue a lawsuit. What's he gonna say? Yeah, I sell drugs, but I'm no sex offender? Right. According to mredskins, he's made himself scarce. Job well done by the neighborhood.

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The leter sent out was fairly long. It included severly pics of him in postions were it looked like he was selling. I myself caught him a month ago selling to a truck parked in front of my house. When I say caught I saw them out my window and him telling the guy to go meet him somewhere else. He is/was very afriad of these people knowing where he lived I could tell he went to great lengthes to ensure they never came down to his house. Would have loved to see his folks faces when they opened the letter.

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If you hadn't got him to recognize you then I would have recommended calling the police and while remaining anonymous get them to come to your neighborhood when he's doing his business. To my understanding so long as you're not doing anything wrong and the cops can catch the guy on their own there will be no need for you to get involved past making the phone call. If they show up and he's gone they still won't come question you.

The only thing I worry about is if someone like that finds out you narced him out the worst they'll do is come after your family the least they'll probably do is vandalize your property. Unfortunately this isn't really the type of thing where you should be manning up. On the contrary a good amount of people in this line of work don't play fair and it's best to avoid any involvement with someone like this.