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[quote=Nflnick11;566043]True, most of the time snyder doesn't make good decisions, but I think that he was on to something with getting cutler, cause cutler isn't a wimp throwing the ball like Campbell. He may throw more picks than Campbell, but he also throws twice as many TDs as Campbell, thus scoring more points, therefore a much better chance of winning the game with a highly touted defense like ours, this is why I like colt, cause he also showed that he isn't afraid to throw the ball, like cutler....Campbell on the other hand is like " let's dump it off to the short route receiver or maybe I'll throw it deep to santana, but only if he's got his man beat by atleast four steps...". This won't change, he's a conservative quarterback, and to win in the NFL today you need to be able to just go out there and sling it...I think zorn wants to name colt the second QB during training camp, cause you can't name someone that with no cause...then I think he doesn't really need to tell Jason anymore that he's on the hot seat, but he'll definitley let him know that he isn't afraid to to give one of the backups the starting job..[B]plus Campbell and zorn aren't idiots, they know that colts a fan favorite, and they read the message boards every once in a while and pobably this site too[/B]

As for me wishing an injury on Campbell, sure that's a bad thing to wish on someone (even tho I wish one on tom Brady every year) but A) I only wish campbell would get a hard hit or something that causes him to sit out for a quarter or so, not a season ending injury or a broken arm, foot, leg, or hand...I think an injury that's small is all it would tAke to put colt in with the first teamers, and see what he could really do, cause I don't think zorn well put him in after everything JCs been thru this offseason and telling him that he's our starting QB, plus I'll give one last chance to wow me or show me that he's improved in his second year in the offense, but as soon as he shows me nothing has changed, bring on the cult of colt![/quote]

I pray two things:
1) that both Zorn and Campbell are too busy trying to improve to ever read message boards or this site.

2) that what fans think has no influence over Zorn's personnel decisions, even if he does read fan opinions. To have fans influencing the thinking of football professionals is the height of lunacy.

Luckily I think that both of my prayers have already been answered.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;566045]Dan brought in Spurrier who brought in Weurffel who knew his system ala Todd Collins.. how is that laughable?? The ONLY reason Collins is on the team is because he basically spent his whole career in Saunders system and knew it inside and out.

Ppl tend to forget that teams were trying to get Spurrier in the league for years before he came to the Skins.[/quote]

Todd Collins took us on a playoff run. What did Danny two-gloves do?

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;566051]Well im sure Jaws and Kiper are NEVER wrong in their player evaluations.[/quote]They are both correct more often than not, and in the evaluation of Colt neither had anything glowing to say, Jaws was just more critical.

[quote]And when Colt was drafted he was like 190lbs, now he is around 210. On Redskins.com it said he spends time after practice throwing 50 yd passes.[/quote]My 16 yr. old son can throw over 50 yds, I can still throw over 50 yds, most HS QBs can throw 50 yds, there's a ton of people who can throw over 50 yds, big deal. Bottom line is the guy has sub-par (at best) arm strength.

[quote]ppl forget in the WCO you dont need a cannon. its more on timing in the short to intermediate range.[/quote]I sure didn't forget that, but the ball needs to get where it's going fast or those slants/crosses/short outs turn into picks.

[quote]JC has a cannon arm. we dont see it often though. NFL Network showed many situations on 3rd and long where he had wrs downfield past the marker in one on one coverage and yet he checked down to the wr that was 3-5 yards short of the first. So either the man cant read defenses,doesnt trust his arm or plays scared to take chances.[/quote]When did NFLN show these "many situations", I sure as hell don't remember it and I'm very confident all the JC haters/Cult of Colt would've posted those clips or made quick reference to them. I don't recall any here.

Your assessment of JC is off. The guy has improved every year and was mentioned as a Pro Bowler in the first 8 weeks of last season. Why don't you take a look at Matt Hasselbeck's first year as a starter under Zorn and then the improvement in his 2nd year. JC is our starting QB. Colt is a 3rd string back-up who might not make the team if he doesn't have a strong pre-season.

What has Colt shown you that goes against what Jaws said initially about him? His arm strength hasn't improved drastically, he didn't make particularly great reads in pre-season last year, he made some questionable throws in pre-season, and hasn't fixed his side-arm release. For every Joe Montana there are a hundred Timmy Chang's

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Todd Collins took us on a playoff run. What did Danny two-gloves do?

What has JC done?? I recall when Collins was the starter we were scoring 20+ pts a game.

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Colt is a fan favorite in the eyes of the delusional only.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;566072]Todd Collins took us on a playoff run. What did Danny two-gloves do?

What has JC done?? I recall when Collins was the starter we were scoring 20+ pts a game.[/quote]

I recall Jason Campbell leading the team to victories in Dallas and Philly as they got off to a 6-2 start. You can blame him for the 2-6 finish if you choose to ignore the injuries on the offensive line (and inconsistent play by the WRs). Based on Danny and Vinny's strategy in free agency and the draft they ignored it as well. Say what you want but it's very difficult to win with a patch-work O-line. Yea, I know Pittsburgh won with a less than dominant line but they also had the #1 defense in the NFL working the other side of the ball...scoring points and leveraging field position. Two things the Skins hope to do on defense this year.

Why do I find myself defending the Redskins to other Redskins fans? That's crazy IMO.

HAIL!

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Slingin Sammy here you go

[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d81069cc4/Can-Campbell-get-it-done]NFL Videos: Can Campbell get it done?[/url]

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;566082]Slingin Sammy here you go

[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d81069cc4/Can-Campbell-get-it-done]NFL Videos: Can Campbell get it done?[/url][/quote]

Good video, Seeing JC's number really drive home how inadequate a QB he was last year. IMO, there has to be a reason both Gibbs & Zorn are reluctant to take the training wheels off when JC is the QB. I really believe the QB position is what's holding this team back.

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He definitely needs to be more aggressive in going down the field and I think he will be with more confidence that comes with being in the same system for a 2nd year. He's going to be more sure of his initial read and he won't hesitate like he did last year. Part of his 3rd down struggles could also be due to coaching. He very well could have been told to take the checkdowns unless you see something wide open.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;566082]Slingin Sammy here you go

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d81069cc4/Can-Campbell-get-it-done"]NFL Videos: Can Campbell get it done?[/URL][/quote]
Hadn't seen this before, this was done on May 19, 2009. It's Solomon Wilcots' analysis only, he showed three plays.
1) against the Giants in the first game of 2008. Campbell missed the post against Cover 2. Let's crucify the guy for that mistake in the first game of the season, new offense, new coaching staff, against the Giants.
2) 3rd & 12 against Cleveland, he didn't take the Go route, against Cover 2, possibly because he was hit just as he checked down, possibly because the WR in the slot either didn't do enough to draw the safety into the middle, or didn't clear the LBs fast enough, hard to tell who was primary on the play.
3) 3rd & 17 against the Giants again. Wilcots says it's Man-to-Man downfield, it's not. It appears to be Cover 3 with M2M on, I'm assuming Moss, on the cross. No one is open, we don't have playmaking receivers who you can throw the ball up to an hope they "make a play". Do you think for a second Collins or Brennan complete that 3rd & 17? I sure hope not.

Campbell isn't Brady/Manning, but the one thing I agree with Wolcots on is that the training wheels need to come off this year. We all agree it's "put up time" for JC, some think he's up to the task, others don't. But one thing is beyond debate, he's light years ahead of Colt and far superior to Collins. If we're going to have a chance this year it will be because JC stayed healthy and plays well.

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Weaknesses: Long accuracy continues to stand out as a problem. The deeper the throw the less consistent he is. Field vision is improved but still not good. Doesn't see entire field, misses too many open WR's. Is a better than average athlete and good scrambler but not a big threat to run. Lacks explosive top-end speed and elusiveness.

Overall: Campbell is a coaches son who also stared in basketball in high school. He became the first freshman to start the season opener at quarterback for Auburn since Stan White in 1990. Campbell started eight games in 2001, six games in 2002 and all 13 games in 2003. He had by far his best season as a senior in 2004 when he completed 69.6-percent of his passes for 2,700 yards and threw 19 touchdowns and just six interceptions, while leading the Tigers to a perfect 13-0 record. Campbell has always had excellent size, good athletic ability and above average arm strength, but his poor decision making skills, lack of poise in the pocket, indecisiveness and erratic arm haunted him early in his collegiate career. Throughout his first three seasons as a starter, Campbell consistently held onto the ball too long, threw too many passes up for grabs when he ran out of time, missed open receivers downfield and overthrew too many of the receivers that he did find open. However, No player improved his draft value more in 2004 than Campbell. After struggling through three extremely inconsistent and unfulfilling seasons, Campbell thrived as a senior in what was his fourth offensive scheme in four years. New offensive coordinator Al Borges found the right fit for Campbell, as his West Coast scheme simplified things and gave Campbell a lot more definitive reads to make. As his confidence improved, so too did his production. Most impressive was Campbell's improvement in regards to his decision-making skills, as he threw 13 more touchdowns (19) than interceptions (6) in 2004. Campbell has the physical tools of a first round pick but there are still questions about his downfield accuracy and ability to see the entire field. That's why we grade Campbell out as a solid second round prospect

Scouting report on JC. doesnt see the entire field. misses open wrs. seems to be his consistant flaw. in 4 yrs as a starter at Auburn he only had like 50+ tds. he has all of the tools physically but mentally you have to wonder if the guy 'gets it'

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;566095]Weaknesses: Long accuracy continues to stand out as a problem. The deeper the throw the less consistent he is. Field vision is improved but still not good. Doesn't see entire field, misses too many open WR's. Is a better than average athlete and good scrambler but not a big threat to run. Lacks explosive top-end speed and elusiveness.

Overall: Campbell is a coaches son who also stared in basketball in high school. He became the first freshman to start the season opener at quarterback for Auburn since Stan White in 1990. Campbell started eight games in 2001, six games in 2002 and all 13 games in 2003. He had by far his best season as a senior in 2004 when he completed 69.6-percent of his passes for 2,700 yards and threw 19 touchdowns and just six interceptions, while leading the Tigers to a perfect 13-0 record. Campbell has always had excellent size, good athletic ability and above average arm strength, but his poor decision making skills, lack of poise in the pocket, indecisiveness and erratic arm haunted him early in his collegiate career. Throughout his first three seasons as a starter, Campbell consistently held onto the ball too long, threw too many passes up for grabs when he ran out of time, missed open receivers downfield and overthrew too many of the receivers that he did find open. However, No player improved his draft value more in 2004 than Campbell. After struggling through three extremely inconsistent and unfulfilling seasons, Campbell thrived as a senior in what was his fourth offensive scheme in four years. New offensive coordinator Al Borges found the right fit for Campbell, as his West Coast scheme simplified things and gave Campbell a lot more definitive reads to make. As his confidence improved, so too did his production. Most impressive was Campbell's improvement in regards to his decision-making skills, as he threw 13 more touchdowns (19) than interceptions (6) in 2004. Campbell has the physical tools of a first round pick but there are still questions about his downfield accuracy and ability to see the entire field. That's why we grade Campbell out as a solid second round prospect

Scouting report on JC. doesnt see the entire field. misses open wrs. seems to be his consistant flaw. in 4 yrs as a starter at Auburn he only had like 50+ tds. he has all of the tools physically but mentally you have to wonder if the guy 'gets it'[/quote]

So your giving us JC's scouting report from college?

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Since we're showing off scouting reports, here's a more [URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/players/scouting?playerId=8440"]recent Campbell scouting report from Scouts, Inc[/URL].

[quote]2008 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 74 | Key
Alert: None

Comment: He is a [B]good overall athlete with good size and a strong arm[/B]. He has quick feet in his pass drops and set up. He adjusts quickly when he sees pressure, but [B]doesn't have a great feel for the rush yet when his eyes are down field. He will get his eyes locked on receivers at times and be late to escape or avoid.[/B] He can buy time with his feet and he is a good athlete, once he is outside the box, to make plays with his legs. He needs to improve his overall vision and pocket adjustments. [B]He will only get better with more experience.[/B] He has a little bit of a wind up release, but the ball comes off his hand quickly once he makes his decision. He showed good touch on underneath throws and a strong enough arm to deliver accurately on deeper throws. He has good touch on vertical routes and toward the sideline. He has enough arm strength to put good velocity on the ball and drive it into tight spots. [B]He has shown improved timing with his three and five-step drops since becoming the starter.[/B] While he will pre-determine where he is going, he is accurate enough to get the ball into his receivers' hands. He has a good combination of size, athletic ability and arm strength. However, [B]he needs to improve his ball security and overall feel for pressure[/B]. [B]He is a solid, young player to build around. He will only get better with experience.[/B][/quote]

I bolded the strengths and weaknesses. Yet, all signs point that he is a good player that will get better with experience. As much as people here (I'm generalizing) scream about "building through the draft" and "developing our own players" It's funny how all of that goes out the window with the QB position. Colt Brennan is a player that the team needs to develop, but not at the expense of our starting QB who is a the latter stage of development (see Matt Hasselbeck).

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;566095]No player improved his draft value more in 2004 than Campbell. After struggling through three extremely inconsistent and unfulfilling seasons, Campbell thrived as a senior in what was his fourth offensive scheme in four years. [B]New offensive coordinator Al Borges found the right fit for Campbell, as his West Coast scheme simplified things and gave Campbell a lot more definitive reads to make. As his confidence improved, so too did his production. Most impressive was Campbell's improvement in regards to his decision-making skills, as he threw 13 more touchdowns (19) than interceptions (6) in 2004.[/B] Campbell has the physical tools of a first round pick but there are still questions about his downfield accuracy and ability to see the entire field. That's why we grade Campbell out as a solid second round prospect

Scouting report on JC. doesnt see the entire field. misses open wrs. seems to be his consistant flaw. in 4 yrs as a starter at Auburn he only had like 50+ tds. he has all of the tools physically but mentally you have to wonder if the guy 'gets it'[/quote]we run a WCO, we have an excellent QB coach, see any parallels? Can we let the guy play out the year and then make a judgement on whether we re-sign him or not?

Either way CB ain't the "Answer". Here's the draft analysis/discussion on him. Again, what has CB done to put to rest any of the negatives...nothing.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x5HH8LE6h4&feature=related"]YouTube - Colt Brennan Drafted by Washington (1 of 2)[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdpr_Tz8MtE&feature=related"]YouTube - Colt Brennan Drafted by Washington (2 of 2)[/ame]

Colt Brennan = Timmy Chang

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I gave it to show that he really hasnt changed since then. he still does the same things now that he did in college. doesnt see the entire field, holds the ball too long,misses open wrs.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;566104]I gave it to show that he really hasnt changed since then. he still does the same things now that he did in college. doesnt see the entire field, holds the ball too long,misses open wrs.[/quote]

Did you see the most recent scouting report that I posted from Scouts, Inc.?

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So since Chang and Brennan both went to UH that means Colt isnt good because his predecessor didnt make it in the league?

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Ugh, this has gotta be the most played out topic in the history of this site.

We'll find out soon enough who's right/wrong about JC.

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I agree. The whole Campbell/Colt thing is taking on a Ramseyesque feel.

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preseason hasnt started yet.. keeps us busy lol

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;566106]So since Chang and Brennan both went to UH that means Colt isnt good because his predecessor didnt make it in the league?[/quote]I'm saying both are system QBs from UH, both put up NCAA records, and neither was/will be successful in the NFL.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;566108]I agree. The whole Campbell/Colt thing is taking on a Ramseyesque feel.[/quote]

By week 3 of the preseason, you'll be on the Chase Caravan as well!!! :)

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isnt every QB a SYSTEM QB??

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Josh McDaniels- "My SYSTEM is very QB friendly"

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;566112]isnt every QB a SYSTEM QB??[/quote]
No. Look at definition #1

[url=http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=system%20quarterback]Urban Dictionary: system quarterback[/url]

June Jones' run-n-shoot inflates passing stats in a big way. Playing in the WAC doesn't hurt either.

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2. system quarterback 22 up, 27 down
A system quarterback is charged with just managing the game and not asked to do too much. Let the talent around them take over and make no mistakes.
ben rofflesburger, trent dilfer, jeff garcia, and peyton manning are all examples of system quarterbacks

So P Manning is a game manager who is asked not to make mistakes?? your source is laughable and has been disproven..thanks for playing.

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And didnt Timmy Chang play 5 yrs??

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So i guess the fans on here wanting to see us draft Tebow or Bradford need to wake up. they are system QB's also.

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as they say on NFL Network... COMEON MAN

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;566120]2. system quarterback 22 up, 27 down
A system quarterback is charged with just managing the game and not asked to do too much. Let the talent around them take over and make no mistakes.
ben rofflesburger, trent dilfer, jeff garcia, and peyton manning are all examples of system quarterbacks

So P Manning is a game manager who is asked not to make mistakes?? your source is laughable and has been disproven..thanks for playing.[/quote]I'm using definition #1 to explain what I meant about being a "system QB". I figured I needed some sort of source to define what I meant when you make a comment like "isn't every QB a system QB".

As far as Tebow or Bradford, I wouldn't draft Tebow and haven't done enough homework on Bradford to make a statement, although both are FAR, FAR, more talented than Brennan.

Chang never made an NFL regular season roster and only made NFL Europe for 1 season. He played two years in the CFL and had only a single incompletion in one of them. He has since been released....Thanks for playing. :spank:

Funny you've resorted to lame one line responses that don't counter anything negative said about Brennan or refute anything positive said about JC (Ruhskins scouting report post). You really shouldn't show up to a gun fight with a knife.

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Colt did in 3 yrs what Chang did in 5 plus Colt set the all time comp % record while Chang is known for setting the record for most ints with 80.. thats a big difference in the 2 if you ask me.

and ppl can say what they want about JC but in REALITY he has done the same things in the pros that ppl said were his flaws in college. thats why i posted the scouting report. And the video on NFL Network proves what i said of JC not pushing the ball downfield and checking down when we needed a play to keep the drives going.

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And your "source" also said Peyton relies on the talent around him to win and he just plays not to lose and is asked not to make mistakes. Thats a joke if you ask me. Manning carries that team.

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[quote=JLW428;566052]1) Cuttler had the most picks in the NFL last year.

2) I think you may be the biggest Campbell hater I have ever seen (which is fine) but he is still our QB, and is going to be our QB so you might as well get get used to it.

3) You say Colt is such a fan favorite - remember back 2 years ago when everyone was chanting for Campbell? I'm sure you were one of those people. Point is - when a team isn't winning, the QB is the first to go to the chopping block. Take a look at our beat down OL and ask yourself is that the reason Jason can't get the ball off.

4) I saw Colt at the Greene Turtle in DC. There were a lot of people in there. NO ONE knew who he was or was trying to take pictures, autographs, etc. Infact, when I approached him to ask for a picture a man sitting near him asked his buddy "who is that?" Big fan favorite I guess...[/quote]

Ok your first point is the only decent one, the others just killed your chances of me and you arguing/debating, cause I just realized I'm talkin' to an idiot, but since I love debating...who gives a flying F if you went to the green turtle and no one talked to colt, you know how many current or former NFL players you see a year and don't realize who they are?????and if you think I'm the biggest hater on JC you haven't not been to enough sports bars in the area, and yes I was on the Campbell bandwagon for a while, but I thought he would change/get better but that hasn't happened

And if you think our oline is bad how come big ben can play a whole season with their oline which allowed the most sAcks in the league and he wins a super bowl (ya I know they had the best defense, but ours wasn't to far off and we had a much better RB then theirs)

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;566136]Colt did in 3 yrs what Chang did in 5 plus Colt set the all time comp % record while Chang is known for setting the record for most ints with 80.. thats a big difference in the 2 if you ask me.

and ppl can say what they want about JC but in REALITY he has done the same things in the pros that ppl said were his flaws in college. thats why i posted the scouting report. And the video on NFL Network proves what i said of JC not pushing the ball downfield and checking down when we needed a play to keep the drives going.[/quote]

It doesn't matter what either Colt or Chang did in college. They both played in a system designed to over-inflate their numbers and played against weak competition. The differences between the two could arise simply from different supporting casts. But, back to the point, neither's numbers matter at all at the pro level. David Klingler, Andre Ware, and Tim Couch also all put up ridiculous numbers in college but flopped as pros.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;566133]I'm using definition #1 to explain what I meant about being a "system QB". I figured I needed some sort of source to define what I meant when you make a comment like "isn't every QB a system QB".

As far as Tebow or Bradford, I wouldn't draft Tebow and haven't done enough homework on Bradford to make a statement, although both are FAR, FAR, more talented than Brennan.

Chang never made an NFL regular season roster and only made NFL Europe for 1 season. He played two years in the CFL and had only a single incompletion in one of them. He has since been released....Thanks for playing. :spank:

Funny you've resorted to lame one line responses that don't counter anything negative said about Brennan or refute anything positive said about JC (Ruhskins scouting report post). You really shouldn't show up to a gun fight with a knife.[/quote]
Your an idiot

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OK so Tebow who plays in the same SYSTEM that gave us ALEX SMITH needs to just bypass the draft and go home after greduation. many would disagree

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[quote=Nflnick11;566143]Ok your first point is the only decent one, the others just killed your chances of me and you arguing/debating, cause I just realized I'm talkin' to an idiot, but since I love debating...who gives a flying F if you went to the green turtle and no one talked to colt, you know how many current or former NFL players you see a year and don't realize who they are?????and if you think I'm the biggest hater on JC you haven't not been to enough sports bars in the area, and [B]yes I was on the Campbell bandwagon for a while, but I thought he would change/get better but that hasn't happened[/B]

And if you think our oline is bad how come big ben can play a whole season with their oline which allowed the most sAcks in the league and he wins a super bowl (ya I know they had the best defense, but ours wasn't to far off and we had a much better RB then theirs)[/quote]

Actually JC has gotten better. Look at JC's stats and you will see continual improvement despite the fact that he has not been a starter very long.

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JC has improved each yr, yeah he threw 1 more td last yr than he did the yr before. So in 8 more yrs he will throw 20 tds in a season. lets be patient.

REALLY PATIENT :)

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i know im bein hard on the guy but i expect more from a former 1st round pick, to this point he has been a disappointment for what we gave to get him

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;566046]Colt hasn't done crap in the NFL. If he can't beat out Collins for the #2 than maybe, just maybe, he's not as good as Collins. The guy has a puss arm, quirky side-arm release, and isn't exactly a rocket scientist. Maybe you should've paid attention to Jaworski's assessment of him when he was drafted. I'll take Jaws opinion over yours, Danny's and VC's when it comes to QBs. What about Zorn, his job is on the line everyday, don't you think he's going to put the best players on the field? Your logic on this is questionable at best....actually it's more along the lines of what Ruhskins described.[/quote]

Your zorn arguement is a good one, but your listening to one crappy opinion, Jaws, really?!?!? What's this quirky motion he keeps talkin' about...joe theisman is the one I'd be listening to, during the preseason he said what we all saw during preseason, which is that sure all these critics say this and that about colt, but when he plays, he's like Brett favre, he has "it", where he just goes out there and slings it, remember against the jets, they came with an all out blitz, he thought they would come with it, he audibled, and threw a quick dart to Jason goode the TE from Maryland ...now Jason Campbell playing pitsburgh they come with an all out blitz he isn't sure if it's coming and decides to run out of the pocket, but gets smacked into the sidelines by Lawrence timmons...just one thing I like about colt than Campbell,