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[quote=chrisl13;571140]Not to be a party pooper, but this is a no-contact practice. they're not hitting or anything so most likely, the defenders let Davis and Thomas run past them for the TD.

Just Saying.[/quote]

I get that it's non contact today, but I highly doubt the defenders let them walk into the endzone. If that was the case the offense would score on every play. The defense has a job to do too.

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[quote=Buster;571139]We've always done that.[/quote]

I don't think so, JZ implemented it last year, and a lot was made of it then. Personally, I like the separations JZ makes between the rookies, mid length and over 4 year vets. I know you have to build team, but you also need the younger players understanding that respect takes play on the field.

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[quote=GMScud;571141]I get that it's non contact today, but I highly doubt the defenders let them walk into the endzone. If that was the case the offense would score on every play. The defense has a job to do too.[/quote]

If you have ever been to one of the practices, that is exactly what the defense does. They defend the ball while its in the air but that's about it.

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If you look a the schedule in the first 6 weeks the only team that really scares me is the Giants - all the other games are very winnable - so if Campbell looks shaky agianst those teams I don't want to think how he will fare when we get into the tough part of the schedule - especially with the rest of the NFC East games.

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[quote=Bill B;571157]If you look a the schedule in the first 6 weeks the only team that really scares me is the Giants - all the other games are very winnable - so if Campbell looks shaky agianst those teams I don't want to think how he will fare when we get into the tough part of the schedule - especially with the rest of the NFC East games.[/quote]

Yeah that's probably the thinking around the team, if JC doesn't shine in the easier part of the schedule forget about it, we'll have a full blown QB controversy at work. Especially if Colt has another strong preseason. It won't matter if he's #2 or #3, people will start calling for him.

That said I don't think we have anything to worry about. :)

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[quote=Mattyk72;571166]Yeah that's probably the thinking around the team, if JC doesn't shine in the easier part of the schedule forget about it, we'll have a full blown QB controversy at work. Especially if Colt has another strong preseason. It won't matter if he's #2 or #3, people will start calling for him.

[B]That said I don't think we have anything to worry about. [/B]:)[/quote]

How can you say that -- have you seen them on the field playing a real game yet ... LOL

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Just my 2 cents.

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The way the roster is built, the Redskins seem to have a two year window in which to win with the current group of guys.

It's not that the team can't possibly stay viable past then, but it's that the core of the 2011 team is going to be players like Landry, Hall, Haynesworth, Heyer, Dockery, Cooley, Davis, Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly, Jarmon, Orakpo, Blades, Barnes, Tryon. That's...a largely unproven group, and having an established quarterback could make all the difference.

The quarterback in 2011 may very well be someone else besides Jason Campbell. And while that in itself is a totally viable idea, the last thing you want to do in 2009 is spend your last 9 games of the season screwing around with the offense because you have this inkling that Jason Campbell isn't going to be back next year. With the success of the 2010 team very much tied to the current players, you need to stretch this offense as far as it can go, and then if necessary changes need to be made in the offseason, make them.

No quarterback roulette this year, no matter what happens.

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I know they had no pads on but it's good to hear no injuries.

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[quote=GTripp0012;571182]The way the roster is built, the Redskins seem to have a two year window in which to win with the current group of guys.

It's not that the team can't possibly stay viable past then, but it's that the core of the 2011 team is going to be players like Landry, Hall, Haynesworth, Heyer, Dockery, Cooley, Davis, Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly, Jarmon, Orakpo, Blades, Barnes, Tryon. That's...a largely unproven group, and having an established quarterback could make all the difference.

The quarterback in 2011 may very well be someone else besides Jason Campbell. And while that in itself is a totally viable idea, the last thing you want to do in 2009 is spend your last 9 games of the season screwing around with the offense because you have this inkling that Jason Campbell isn't going to be back next year. With the success of the 2010 team very much tied to the current players, you need to stretch this offense as far as it can go, and then if necessary changes need to be made in the offseason, make them.

No quarterback roulette this year, no matter what happens.[/quote]


GTripp,

My take is if Campbell falters he may not be yanked mid-way, but he will not be resigned in the offseason. This year is do or die for him as far as being a Redskin - nothing short of making the playoffs in my opinion - 8-8 will not cut it this year with the defense as stacked as it is.

If the Skins totally falter and wind up a lottery winner in the draft next year I see us taking a qb in the first round - even though I love to build from the trenches I think Synder will say lets take the star qb if he is available when they pick - or lets try and trade for one if available.

I know that Capbell has been in more systems than is reasonable, but I just don't see after several years here that Synder will extend him if we miss out on the playoffs due to an ineffective offense.

I hope Campbell proves all the naysayers wrong and really breaks out - that way we can focus our future drafts on the offensive line and not have to spend next year going through another quarterback adjustment.

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[quote=70Chip;571122]I was at this morning's practice. Run of the mill. Three things worth mentioning. Devin Thomas looked sharp, Samuels looks skinnier, and Peter King was present taking [I]some[/I] notes but mostly talking to a fat man in a suit (who was either a Sidney Greenstreet impersonator or JFK's beat reporter) and Mike Wise. Also Lindsay Czarniak wore blue. So four things.[/quote]

You sure it wasn't Ross Tucker King was with?

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[quote=Bill B;571209]GTripp,

My take is if Campbell falters he may not be yanked mid-way, but he will not be resigned in the offseason. This year is do or die for him as far as being a Redskin - nothing short of making the playoffs in my opinion - 8-8 will not cut it this year with the defense as stacked as it is.

If the Skins totally falter and wind up a lottery winner in the draft next year I see us taking a qb in the first round - even though I love to build from the trenches I think Synder will say lets take the star qb if he is available when they pick - or lets try and trade for one if available.

I know that Capbell has been in more systems than is reasonable, but I just don't see after several years here that Synder will extend him if we miss out on the playoffs due to an ineffective offense.

I hope Campbell proves all the naysayers wrong and really breaks out - that way we can focus our future drafts on the offensive line and not have to spend next year going through another quarterback adjustment.[/quote]I agree that the defense is completely stacked, and deep at the first and third levels, but that's not an absolute guarantee that it will play well, or even outplay the offense.

Mixed in with the overwhelming evidence that suggests this team will succeed is legitimate reason it may fail: mostly reasons unrelated to Jason Campbell.

Quite simply, if we have a front office that can't differentiate between problems caused by the quarterback, and problems independent of the quarterback, and they've shown little reason to believe they can, then it doesn't really matter one way or the other who the quarterback is on this team as the offense is only bound to get more ineffective in the future.

I think the biggest running misconception about the Redskins is that people aren't seeing the grand canyon sized chasm between where the offense is, and where it could be if the team isn't careful about the moves it makes. Putting a bad quarterback in there, having Portis get hurt, multiple injuries on the offensive line combined with continued ineffectiveness of the receivers...and we're a 5-11 team even given a minor defensive improvement. We have to be careful not to mess with what's right about the offense, and only work on the problem areas.

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James Thrash just walked out to the practice field with the team. He was wearing casual Redskins gear. Coaching intern, perhaps?

from twitter

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What's up with Dorsey? Heard he got carted off

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[quote=GTripp0012;571217]I agree that the defense is completely stacked, and deep at the first and third levels, but that's not an absolute guarantee that it will play well, or even outplay the offense.

Mixed in with the overwhelming evidence that suggests this team will succeed is legitimate reason it may fail: mostly reasons unrelated to Jason Campbell.

Quite simply, if we have a front office that can't differentiate between problems caused by the quarterback, and problems independent of the quarterback, and they've shown little reason to believe they can, then it doesn't really matter one way or the other who the quarterback is on this team as the offense is only bound to get more ineffective in the future.

I think the biggest running misconception about the Redskins is that people aren't seeing the grand canyon sized chasm between where the offense is, and where it could be if the team isn't careful about the moves it makes. Putting a bad quarterback in there, having Portis get hurt, multiple injuries on the offensive line combined with continued ineffectiveness of the receivers...and we're a 5-11 team even given a minor defensive improvement. We have to be careful not to mess with what's right about the offense, and only work on the problem areas.[/quote]


Good points. Maybe would it be fair to say the way the Skins should approach building the offense is to look at when the Skins won the Super Bowl when Rypien was the qb - basically build an incredible dominant offensive line and good recievers with an adequate running back and most qbs could thrive?

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[quote=tryfuhl;571220]James Thrash just walked out to the practice field with the team. He was wearing casual Redskins gear. Coaching intern, perhaps?

from twitter[/quote]

He's got a front office job I believe. I think he's going to be doing something like helping young players transition into the NFL, adjust to life as a pro athlete, etc.

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[quote=Bill B;571226]Good points. Maybe would it be fair to say the way the Skins should approach building the offense is to look at when the Skins won the Super Bowl when Rypien was the qb - basically build an incredible dominant offensive line and good recievers with an adequate running back and most qbs could thrive?[/quote]In a more immediate sense: take the 2008 Miami Dolphins offense, remove the big gains and wasted plays that came with the wildcat, and that's what the offense should look to accomplish this year.

We don't have very good receivers, but they have the potential to be as good as the Dolphins' were last year.

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[quote=SmootSmack;571225]What's up with Dorsey? Heard he got carted off[/quote]

According to Redskins.com Dorsey had cramps.

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[quote=SmootSmack;571216]You sure it wasn't Ross Tucker King was with?[/quote]

He was there as well. He's not fat at all. He must be way down from his playing weight.

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[quote=Lotus;571304]According to Redskins.com Dorsey had cramps.[/quote]

Same excuse my wife uses...

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WR Devin Thomas, when asked if this is going to be his break-out season: [B]"This will be a break-out season for a lot of young Redskins players."[/B]

Quote of the day!

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Get excited, Colt Brennan fans: No. 5 completed consecutive passes, one on a short route to Marko Mitchell and anotther on a downfield route to Santana Moss.

Glad to see the 'Pineapple Jesus' hasnt lost it. I hear TC also looked pretty good today. JC had a few good plays and he also had a few over/under thrown balls.

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[quote=SmootSmack;571315]Same excuse my wife uses...[/quote]

Thank you folks, he'll be here all week. Try the veal.

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Same excuse my wife uses...

[quote=Ruhskins;571324]Thank you folks, he'll be here all week. Try the veal.[/quote]


A good comedian show......$25
A good veal dinner............$14
"excuses my wife uses".......Priceless. ;)

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;571320]Get excited, Colt Brennan fans: No. 5 completed consecutive passes, one on a short route to Marko Mitchell and anotther on a downfield route to Santana Moss.

Glad to see the 'Pineapple Jesus' hasnt lost it. I hear TC also looked pretty good today. JC had a few good plays and he also had a few over/under thrown balls.[/quote]

I'm glad to see the Pineapple Jesus nickname has caught on :) Maybe I should get some T-shirts made, make money off this

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Funny I Googled Pinapple Jesus and 9th down on the list is something Matty said. LOL.

Mattyk's Training Camp Hero Poll - The WarpathOther (other than Colt "Pineapple Jesus" Brennan), 5, 4.90% .... Pineapple Jesus

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lol..Chase better pray to the 'Pineapple' that he has a better day tomorrow. they say he struggled today.

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[quote=SmootSmack;571333]I'm glad to see the Pineapple Jesus nickname has caught on :) Maybe I should get some T-shirts made, make money off this[/quote]

Something like this? (with better graphics of course):

[IMG]http://terpconnect.umd.edu/~nram/cbrennan.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=SmootSmack;571333]I'm glad to see the Pineapple Jesus nickname has caught on :) Maybe I should get some T-shirts made, make money off this[/quote]

Pineapple Jesus is an outstanding nickname.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;571341]lol..Chase better pray to the 'Pineapple' that he has a better day tomorrow. they say he struggled today.[/quote]

Yeah not a good start for um....Cornflake Allah...(I gotta work on that one)

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;571320]Get excited, Colt Brennan fans: No. 5 completed consecutive passes, one on a short route to Marko Mitchell and anotther on a downfield route to Santana Moss.

Glad to see the 'Pineapple Jesus' hasnt lost it. I hear TC also looked pretty good today. [B]JC had a few good plays and he also had a few over/under thrown balls[/B].[/quote]

Did he pat the ball before every throw? Oh Schnap!

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Pineapple Jesus is just so catchy! It's a great nickname!

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Yeah nick name is catchy

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[quote=SmootSmack;571347]Yeah not a good start for um....Cornflake Allah...(I gotta work on that one)[/quote]

Dang Smoot,You were on fire until that one. lol :)

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[quote=SmootSmack;571347]Yeah not a good start for um....Cornflake Allah...(I gotta work on that one)[/quote]How about L. Ron Cornflake?
[IMG]http://anonymousradioshow.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/xenu7.jpg[/IMG]

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Captain Cornflake?

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[quote=SmootSmack;571333]I'm glad to see the Pineapple Jesus nickname has caught on :) Maybe I should get some T-shirts made, make money off this[/quote]
Better do so before the Mottram Boys run with it...
[url=http://140081.spreadshirt.com/us/US/Shop/]Mr. Irrelevant's T-Shirt Shop[/url]

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we already have Captain Chaos, nomore Capts

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[quote=Ruhskins;571342]Something like this? (with better graphics of course):

[IMG]http://terpconnect.umd.edu/~nram/cbrennan.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Not bad,but you should have him standing on water. adds to the 'jesus' part of the nickname imo

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Or he could be floating in the clouds