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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;584591]Just FYI...

Chase Daniel is no lock to be a Redskin...

The team is cutting him & keeping only 2 QBs on the 53 man roster.

If he clears waivers, then practice squad... but someone may just take a flier on him...

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4448091"]Brennan to IR, Daniel Cut[/URL][/quote]

Somewhere in Bristol SmootSmack is fighting back tears.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;584598]Yeah those 7 sacks had nothing to do with it. Balt 2nd string OWNED our 2nd string and NE had their starters in when he played..again with our 2nd string. [B]Chase ran for his life in the last game as well with the same results[/B].[/quote]

Which is kinda the point, the two are pretty much interchangeable except that, to my recollection, Chase didn't make as many glaringly bad decisions as Colt did.

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[quote=GMScud;584599]Somewhere in Bristol SmootSmack is fighting back tears.[/quote]

The angry german kid video comes to mind! LOL

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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;584591]Just FYI...

Chase Daniel is no lock to be a Redskin...

The team is cutting him & keeping only 2 QBs on the 53 man roster.

If he clears waivers, then practice squad... but someone may just take a flier on him...

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4448091"]Brennan to IR, Daniel Cut[/URL][/quote]

Not sure why we waste so much time on guys destined to be career backups.

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If Daniel is cut and the Redskins are looking elsewhere, could they make a trade and bring in Thigpen or Tarvaris Jackson? Just a thought.

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The Washington Redskins say they've decided to put quarterback Colt Brennan on injured reserve with a hamstring injury, ruling him out for the season.

The team reported on its Web site Saturday that Brennan aggravated a nagging hamstring problem during Thursday night's game against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Brennan and Chase Daniel spent the preseason battling for the third-string job.

Still, Daniel will not make the 53-man roster and is unlikely to be a practice squad candidate, a team source told ESPN's Chris Mortensen.

The Redskins plan to carry just 2 quarterbacks on the 53-man roster -- Jason Campbell and Todd Collins.

Information from The Associated Press and ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen was used in this report.

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Carrying 2 QB's and having another roster spot for another position may be the idea. In the unlikely scenario of losing your top 2 QB's to injury, there's always ARE. Hey...we're the Redskins....who knows what those crazy rascals will do? :)

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;584604]If Daniel is cut and the Redskins are looking elsewhere, could they make a trade and bring in Thigpen or Tarvaris Jackson? Just a thought.[/quote]


I don't know that it will be either of the players you mention but one has to think their intentions are to add another QB somewhere along the line. On the other hand it is not entirely unusual because other teams have done the same thing in the past.

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[quote=Longtimefan;584608]I don't know that it will be either of the players you mention but one has to think their intentions are to add another QB somewhere along the line. On the other hand it is not entirely unusual because other teams have done the same thing in the past.[/quote]

Id be fine going with two QBs this season, it's not like we have a rookie as the back-up.

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hey, then being a brennan fan and die hard skins fan, this is just great news! This means that we do keep a mason along with maybe an Aldrige and/or Dorsey.
It could also be a eddie williams, or a lendy holmes, edwin williams, daryl young, rob jackson, the list goes on

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I'll be interested in hearing from Zorn why the team decided to cut ties with Daniel altogether. Obviously there must have been some major concern with him, and since he played reasonably well with the oportunities he had, the only reason I can think of for his release was his size. Will be interesting to hear from Zorn.

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Colt Brennan is an extremely talented quarterback. I think that he has remarkable physical ability, and a very high football IQ, with great "instincts." Criticism of him throwing an interception or two in preseason is frankly stupid. It 's all part of the learning process. As Fred Smoot says, he has a Farve quality to him that will make him very successful.

Colt has a dynamism and a leadership ability that you can't teach. He's a born quarterback, and there aren't a lot of those. Winning is about more than just the physical dimension. Colt has a daring that will pay much more dividends than a play it safe quarterback. He is learning to work within the system so that Coach Zorn can trust him not to excessively improvise. He will do that and rise to the top. Eventually, Colt will be a Super Bowl winning quarterback, and I believe it will be with the Redskins.

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[quote=Westover;584614]Colt Brennan is an extremely talented quarterback. I think that he has remarkable physical ability, and a very high football IQ, with great "instincts." Criticism of him throwing an interception or two in preseason is frankly stupid. It 's all part of the learning process. As Fred Smoot says, he has a Farve quality to him that will make him very successful.

Colt has a dynamism and a leadership ability that you can't teach. He's a born quarterback, and there aren't a lot of those. Winning is about more than just the physical dimension. Colt has a daring that will pay much more dividends than a play it safe quarterback. He is learning to work within the system so that Coach Zorn can trust him not to excessively improvise. He will do that and rise to the top. Eventually, Colt will be a Super Bowl winning quarterback, and I believe it will be with the Redskins.[/quote]


Spoken like a true Colt fan.....Welcome!

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[quote=Westover;584614]Colt Brennan is an extremely talented quarterback. I think that he has remarkable physical ability, and a very high football IQ, with great "instincts." Criticism of him throwing an interception or two in preseason is frankly stupid. It 's all part of the learning process. As Fred Smoot says, he has a Farve quality to him that will make him very successful.

Colt has a dynamism and a leadership ability that you can't teach. He's a born quarterback, and there aren't a lot of those. Winning is about more than just the physical dimension. Colt has a daring that will pay much more dividends than a play it safe quarterback. He is learning to work within the system so that Coach Zorn can trust him not to excessively improvise. He will do that and rise to the top. Eventually, Colt will be a Super Bowl winning quarterback, and I believe it will be with the Redskins.[/quote]
Not only do I agree, but I also know that Colt has been studying multiple foreign languages, listening to tapes of Ghandi, and meditating with the Dalai Lama. He has been a top advisor to President Obama, and understands that putting it all on the line is worth risking minor setbacks. Eventually, HE shall show us all the way, and truly unite the world under one banner. HE IS PJ5.

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[quote=Longtimefan;584613]I'll be interested in hearing from Zorn why the team decided to cut ties with Daniel altogether. Obviously there must have been some major concern with him, and since he played reasonably well with the oportunities he had, the only reason I can think of for his release was his size. Will be interesting to hear from Zorn.[/quote]

i think it's because of height...he has to drop back further to see over the oline, and if he drops back further than he gets more yards lost when he gets sacked. the other reason why we're releasing him i think, is because jason campbell can stay healthy, and Todd Collins could finish a season out for us anyway should campbell get injured. And also because Colt, who Zorn's developing won't play, and didn't even dress out last year, and we have lots of other guys that can play like our RB's OL, DL, LB's that we like.

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Colt's the Future. He just needs to get healthy, study the playbook more and learn from Jim Zorn. That is unless we have a new coach next year who will want his own qb.

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[quote=Westover;584614]Colt Brennan is an extremely talented quarterback. I think that he has remarkable physical ability, and a very high football IQ, with great "instincts." Criticism of him throwing an interception or two in preseason is frankly stupid. It 's all part of the learning process. As Fred Smoot says, he has a Farve quality to him that will make him very successful.

Colt has a dynamism and a leadership ability that you can't teach. He's a born quarterback, and there aren't a lot of those. Winning is about more than just the physical dimension. Colt has a daring that will pay much more dividends than a play it safe quarterback. He is learning to work within the system so that Coach Zorn can trust him not to excessively improvise. He will do that and rise to the top. Eventually, Colt will be a Super Bowl winning quarterback, and I believe it will be with the Redskins.[/quote]
Right. Get real. If he hadn't gotten hurt he may have been a practice squad player. He's got eons to go before he's even a capable back up, let alone starter.

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Breaking news out of Redskins Park:

Frustrated at being cut by the Redskins, QB Chase Daniel stuffed all the footballs he could find into his cheeks and darted off the premises, leaving equipment managers scrambling to find some footballs for tomorrow's practice.

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[quote=Westover;584614]Colt Brennan is an extremely talented quarterback. I think that he has remarkable physical ability, and a very high football IQ, with great "instincts." Criticism of him throwing an interception or two in preseason is frankly stupid. It 's all part of the learning process. As Fred Smoot says, he has a Farve quality to him that will make him very successful.

Colt has a dynamism and a leadership ability that you can't teach. He's a born quarterback, and there aren't a lot of those. Winning is about more than just the physical dimension. Colt has a daring that will pay much more dividends than a play it safe quarterback. He is learning to work within the system so that Coach Zorn can trust him not to excessively improvise. He will do that and rise to the top. Eventually, Colt will be a Super Bowl winning quarterback, and I believe it will be with the Redskins.[/quote]

First of all, hard to take you seriously when you start with Colt's weakest component. In college, in a WAC conference, and with a run & gun offense, maybe he had "remarkable physical ability". In the pros, he has incredibly average physical ability. Does he have 4.3 speed that I somehow have missed? A cannon arm that he has carefully kept under wraps? What exactly about his physical ability is "remarkable".

As to his intangibles - you call it "dynamism", I call it "arrogance"; you call them "instincts", I call them "bad decisions". He tries to write checks that his body just can't (and will likely never be able to) deliver. This may change in time, but right now he plays with a style that his abilities can't support on a pro level.

Absolutely, QB'ing is more than physical. But you must have the tools to play the game. If he wants to be a gunslinger, he needs to drastically improve his arm strength. Either that, or play like Montana who, not having a gun for an arm, made good decisions with the ball. So far, in two preseason, he has not shown that. In fact, if anything, he seems to have regressed this year.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;584616]Not only do I agree, but I also know that Colt has been studying multiple foreign languages, listening to tapes of Ghandi, and meditating with the Dalai Lama. He has been a top advisor to President Obama, and understands that putting it all on the line is worth risking minor setbacks. Eventually, HE shall show us all the way, and truly unite the world under one banner. HE IS PJ5.[/quote]

- Police often question him, just because they find him interesting.

- His beard alone has experienced more than a lesser mans body.

- His blood smells like cologne.

- He has amassed an amazingly large DVD collection, and has never once alphabetised it.

- If he were to mail a letter without postage, it would still get there.

- The pheromones he secretes effect people miles away… in a slight, but measurable way.

- He once punched a magician. That’s right, you heard me.

- His hands feel like rich, brown swede.

- He lived in the hills of the Serengeti for a summer after being gifted a wife by a local tribes men.

- He owns 4 sports cars, and rents 5.

- He taught a horse to read his email for him.

- He almost broke the land speed record in 1977, popular opinion among his team was that is beard caused to much wind resistance. He would have shaved it… No, no he wouldn’t have.

- He was the featured man at a bachelorette auction he brought in over 13 million euro, under the table.

- His personality is so magnetic, he is unable to carry credit cards.

- Even his enemy’s list him as there emergency contact.

- He never say’s anything taste like chicken… Not even chicken.

- He speeks fluent French, in Russian.

- His charm is so contagious, vaccines we’re created for it.

- Years ago, he created a city out of blocks. Today over 600,000 people live and work there.

- He is the only person to ever ace a Rorschach Test.

- Every time he goes for a swim. Dolphins appear.

- Alien abductors have asked him, to probe them.

- If he we’re to give you directions… You would never get lost. And you’d arive at least 5 minutes early.

- His legend precedes him, the way lightning precedes thunder.

- His reputation is expanding, faster then the universe.

- He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it feels.

- He lives vicariously througt himself.

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You know, I've been skimming the Colt threads here and there. I'd see comments by various posters talking about the Cult of Colt. I kinda shrugged it off and didn't really take it too seriously. I remember we went through this with Taylor Jacobs, then Anothony Mix, Ade Jimoh (who could forget the Ade fan club?) and many others over the years. But my god, this Colt shit is for real. There are people here, reasonable and intelligent mind you, who actually believe Colt Brennen is the next coming of Fran Tarkenton.

It's extremely difficult for a quarterback to come into this league, no matter how talented and gifted, and make an impact. Could it happen, I suppose so. But here's a guy that can't unseat Todd Collins at the age of 36, 37 years old, as the second string quarterback. Colt has zero chance, in my opinion, of taking over this team. At least not while Jason Campbell still wears burgund and gold.

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It's pretty funny the bizarre and/or angry reaction some people have to support for Colt Brennan. Obviously Colt brings up strong feelings.

That ability to bring up strong feelings, to galvanize people, is critical to being a top quarterback. When you are a field general you need to have the ability to inspire people. It can be a double edged sword and you can galvanize people to oppose you too. But it's a sword that you can't become a great quarterback without in my view.

Players will and do feel strongly - in a positive way - about Colt. And it's similar to the way people respond to Brett Farve.

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Colt lovers are incredible, some of you guys are purely comical at this point. And btw, whoever came up with Pineapple Jesus is a genius, these guys really believe he is the messiah.

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I guess the team wants to give Colt one more chance. i don't mind the team carrying two QBs, I'm sure they can pick up a third qb later on, and now they can use that roster spot elsewhere. With this injury though I wonder if Colt is going to be one of those injury-prone players. Oh well, I'm glad it wasn't an important player that got injured (i.e. a starter or an important back up)

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[quote=Westover;584629]It's pretty funny the bizarre and/or angry reaction some people have to support for Colt Brennan. Obviously Colt brings up strong feelings.

That ability to bring up strong feelings, to galvanize people, is critical to being a top quarterback. When you are a field general you need to have the ability to inspire people. It can be a double edged sword and you can galvanize people to oppose you too. But it's a sword that you can't become a great quarterback without in my view.

Players will and do feel strongly - in a positive way - about Colt. And it's similar to the way people respond to Brett Farve.[/quote]

Wow. Just wow. Dude, I do not know what you are drinking but please please make sure you cleanse your system before any mandatory drug testing.

Colt [I]does[/I] seem to have a certain field presence. But, unlike Farve, he doesn't have a gun for an arm - well maybe a popgun.

And to be clear, I got no special love or hate for the guy. The thing that "galvanizes" me, is his followers incredible inability to see his limitations and flaws.

Please, PLEASE tell me what his "remarkable physical abilities" are???

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[quote=JoeRedskin;584637]But, unlike Farve, he doesn't have a gun for an arm - well maybe a popgun.[/quote]


ROFL....very nice!!! :laughing2

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I'm glad you have no "special" hate for Colt Brennan.

You do have a tremendous hostility, however, shown by your senseless insults directed at me.

For anyone else reading this, I'll let Coach Zorn do the talking for me, because I think he has the best perspective about Colt Brennan.





[quote=JoeRedskin;584637]Wow. Just wow. Dude, I do not know what you are drinking but please please make sure you cleanse your system before any mandatory drug testing.

Colt [I]does[/I] seem to have a certain field presence. But, unlike Farve, he doesn't have a gun for an arm - well maybe a popgun.

And to be clear, I got no special love or hate for the guy. The thing that "galvanizes" me, is his followers incredible inability to see his limitations and flaws.

Please, PLEASE tell me what his "remarkable physical abilities" are???[/quote]

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[quote=Westover;584643]I'm glad you have no "special" hate for Colt Brennan.

You do have a tremendous hostility, however, shown by your senseless insults directed at me.

For anyone else reading this, I'll let Coach Zorn do the talking for me, because I think he has the best perspective about Colt Brennan.[/quote]

It's a football forum man. I doubt JR had "tremendous hostility" towards you. Moreso incredible incomprehension of what player you are describing. Colt Brennan was at best the 3rd string quarterback on this team, he was given every chance to take over the 2nd string position, and instead apparently came close to losing his 3rd string position to a qb that we ended up cutting.

Colt did not wow the coaches with an immense physical presence or karmatic experience. Maybe with time he can overcome his inexperience and bad judgement making, but he certainly did not step forward this preseason.

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Redskin Insider:

Posted at 2:25 PM ET, 09/ 5/2009
Brennan's Hip a Problem All Preseason

Quarterback Colt Brennan often said he would not make excuses for his poor performance during the preseason.

As I'm finding out now, it appears Brennan had, at least in part, one legitimate excuse: a left hip injury. Brennan suffered the injury in the Redskins' preseason opener Aug. 13 against the Baltimore Ravens at M&T Bank Stadium.

The Redskins did not reveal the injury when it occurred, and Brennan - who had surgery to repair a slightly torn labrum in his right hip in April 2008 - continued to play despite the discomfort. But the injury had an effect on Brennan's mechanics, a league source told me today, and made it harder for him to operate within the offense.

Obviously, the injury was not the cause of Brennan's poor decision-making for most of the preseason. But the Redskins knew Brennan was not operating at full strength physically. When Brennan was sacked late in the fourth quarter Thursday night in Jacksonville, he aggravated his hamstring and hip injuries in addition to tearing his hamstring. He is expected to have further tests on his hip soon.

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[quote=Westover;584643]I'm glad you have no "special" hate for Colt Brennan.

You do have a tremendous hostility, however, shown by your senseless insults directed at me.[/quote]

You better toughen up quick, it gets pretty crazy in here sometimes! :)

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[quote=Westover;584643]I'm glad you have no "special" hate for Colt Brennan.

You do have a tremendous hostility, however, shown by your senseless insults directed at me.

For anyone else reading this, I'll let Coach Zorn do the talking for me, because I think he has the best perspective about Colt Brennan.[/quote]

I don't have hostilty towards you (or Colt). True, the drug testing remark was insulting and for it I apologize. My responses are more the result of shocked amazement about the your claims of Colt's seemingly mythical abilities - comparing him to a first ballot HOF'er when he hasn't played a regular season down. Really, I got no hate for you, just the stunned amazement of an onlooker saying - "Did he really just say that???"

My criticism of your remarks, however, is not 'senseless". You make broad claims for Colt's physical abilities that are simply unsupported. You claim that his "leadership" qualities seem to outweigh his physical limitations by some almost magical quality. It's just not there. Before he can lead, he's got to show he can play and he simply hasn't done that [I]at this level[/I]. He may eventually someday, but all he has shown so far is limited potential to be a quality back up.

Again, for me to take your faith in Colt seriously, I really would like to know the basis for your claim that he has "remarkable physical ability".

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[quote=JoeRedskin;584650]

Again, for me to take your faith in Colt seriously, I really would like to know the basis for your claim that he has "[B]remarkable physical ability[/B]".[/quote]

A "reliable source" told me he can juggle 3 pineapples at the same time. :) I actually think CB can be a good QB but it's all up to how he progresses. Time will tell. Ryan Leaf had a chance to be a good QB too.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;584648]Obviously, the injury was not the cause of Brennan's poor decision-making for most of the preseason.[B] But the Redskins knew Brennan was not operating at full strength physically. [/B]When Brennan was sacked late in the fourth quarter Thursday night in Jacksonville, he aggravated his hamstring and hip injuries in addition to tearing his hamstring. He is expected to have further tests on his hip soon.[/quote]

Well, that makes a difference. Take average physical abilities and then complicate them by an injury, and that certainly would affect his performance. Agreed, it does not completely absolve him of his incredible mental errors and, in fact, shows his continued inability to play within himself (if you know you are not 100%, then you gotta play accordingly). At the same time, he may have been pressing a little once it became clear he wasn't guarranteed a spot. We'll see.

For now, however, it's all moot. He ain't gonna be playing in 2009. The hero worship will just have to wait until 2010.

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[quote=53Fan;584652]A "reliable source" told me he can juggle 3 pineapples at the same time. :) [B]I actually think CB can be a good QB but it's all up to how he progresses. Time will tell. Ryan Leaf had a chance to be a good QB too.[/B][/quote]

I agree. He just isn't now and doesn't look like he will be either this year (obviously) or next.

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[quote=Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor;584619]Colt's the Future. He just needs to get healthy, study the playbook more and learn from Jim Zorn. That is unless we have a new coach next year who will want his own qb.[/quote]

Really? I was kinda hoping Jason Campbell was the future.

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Chase Daniel said in a Twitter post he was told by the front office he'll get a spot on the practice squad if he clears waivers.

We'll obviously KNOW soon enough... but I doubt that the Skins are cutting ties with him completely.

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Ah the Culters sure are dreamers aren't they.

Well save that dream for another day, cause it's not coming true this year.

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Despite his hip injury, today Colt Brennan walked on water after curing lepers with just his smile.

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Why did they release Chase? WTF. Do they like somebody elses camp fodder?

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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;584667]Chase Daniel said in a Twitter post he was told by the front office he'll get a spot on the practice squad if he clears waivers.

We'll obviously KNOW soon enough... but I doubt that the Skins are cutting ties with him completely.[/quote]


Doesn't matter. Somebody is bound to pick him up. I think they are going for one of the whiz kids next season for sure now!!!!