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[quote=53Fan;589321]Personally I would have benched Moss and put Mitchell or DT in. I think they're ready to contribute too but they're not being given much of a chance so far.[/quote]

Exactly! I would have benched him and made him earn a spot back. He'd have to return punts first of all. If he took one to the head and got his act together, I'd put him at slot.

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[quote=Paintrain;589232]No disagreement here. If only he was put in such positions to do so (shotgun, 65-35 pass:run ration) it'd be nice to see what he could do.[/quote]

Well, against the giants, we've seen what he can do when his offensive line gives him a ton time and his receivers get open - he holds on to the ball too long, overthrows open receivers, makes poor decisions, and locks on to Cooley and Randel El.

All last year the Campbell-lovers here blamed the offensive line and the fact that it was his first year in the system for Campbells lack of production. Now hes in his second year, the the line is doing a great job in pass protection and giving him time, you're saying we ran the ball too much and didnt use the shotgun enough???

why pass more when Campbell was doing a horrible job at passing? Why use the shotgun more when Campbell dropped a pefect shotgun snap that could have resulted in another turnover?

All we saw of Campbell against the Giants was just more affirmation for those that beleive he is not a starting-caliber QB. I'm willing to give him another two or three games, but if his line continues to hold up and Campbell continues to make poor decisions, he's never going to start in this league again. He's simply running out of excuses.

We lost the game by 7 points and Campbell lost us atleast 7 points when the Giants took the ball out of his hand and ran it in for a TD. If we had scored even a field goal on that drive, or the one where he threw the INT, we would have had enough points to win the game. If not, we would have atleast been in an overtime situation. Yes, some of Zorn's playcalling sucked; Yes, our secondary looked mediocre; but Jason Campbell's poor decision-making cost us the game.

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[quote=SouperMeister;589451][B]Our passing attack is entirely too reliant on Cooley.[/B] Don't get me wrong, he's a great player, but until Kelly, Thomas, and Davis are included in the offensive game plan, expect to see 17 points or less per game. Campbell needs to step up his game big-time, or he can look forward to a career arc similar to Patrick Ramsey's.[/quote]

Good point. I've been saying that for awhile. People point to Cooley's 83 receptions last year. While that's good for Cooley, it's not necessarily good for the offense.

Campbell needs to step up his game, but I would also add that Kelly, Thomas, Davis and Santana Moss need to get open on a regular basis.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;589566]Well, against the giants, we've seen what he can do when his offensive line gives him a ton time and his receivers get open - he holds on to the ball too long, overthrows open receivers, makes poor decisions, and locks on to Cooley and Randel El.

All last year the Campbell-lovers here blamed the offensive line and the fact that it was his first year in the system for Campbells lack of production. Now hes in his second year, the the line is doing a great job in pass protection and giving him time, you're saying we ran the ball too much and didnt use the shotgun enough???

why pass more when Campbell was doing a horrible job at passing? Why use the shotgun more when Campbell dropped a pefect shotgun snap that could have resulted in another turnover?

All we saw of Campbell against the Giants was just more affirmation for those that beleive he is not a starting-caliber QB. I'm willing to give him another two or three games, but if his line continues to hold up and Campbell continues to make poor decisions, he's never going to start in this league again. He's simply running out of excuses.

We lost the game by 7 points and Campbell lost us atleast 7 points when the Giants took the ball out of his hand and ran it in for a TD. If we had scored even a field goal on that drive, or the one where he threw the INT, we would have had enough points to win the game. If not, we would have atleast been in an overtime situation. Yes, some of Zorn's playcalling sucked; Yes, our secondary looked mediocre; but Jason Campbell's poor decision-making cost us the game.[/quote]
Jason Campbell definitely needs to show more awareness but I'm not buying your statement that the offensive line gave him a ton of time and is doing a great job.

On the Jason Campbell fumble. The protection was not that great. Tuck blew right around Samuels and applied pressure from the backside. Campbell should have more pocket presence and stepped up into the pocket. Both the protection and Campbell are at fault.

There was another running play when Hester let a defensive end come free and stuff a third down run attempt. The offensive line did okay but the Giants kept Campbell under pressure and forced him into hasty throws. I'm not sure a quarterback with more composure would have done anything differently. I don't think you are giving the Giants defense enough credit for keeping the pressure on.

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;589595]Jason Campbell definitely needs to show more awareness but I'm not buying your statement that the offensive line gave him a ton of time and is doing a great job.

On the Jason Campbell fumble. The protection was not that great. [B]Tuck blew right around Samuels and applied pressure from the backside[/B]. Campbell should have more pocket presence and stepped up into the pocket. Both the protection and Campbell are at fault.

There was another running play when [B]Hester[/B] let a defensive end come free and stuff a third down run attempt. The offensive line did okay but the Giants kept Campbell under pressure and forced him into hasty throws. I'm not sure a quarterback with more composure would have done anything differently. I don't think you are giving the Giants defense enough credit for keeping the pressure on.[/quote]

It was Umenyora, not Tuck. And there's nobody by the name of "Hester" on the O-line. If you mean Stephon [I]Heyer[/I], it should be noted that he didn't allow a sack all game.

While the pass protection wasn't perfect, considering the athletes the Giants have on their front four, it was adequate.

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[quote=Longtimefan;589483]Speaking of the INT, That play resulted in something I have never witnessed in all the years I've been watching professional football. The QB starts to run crosses the LOS, throw's an illegal foreward pass that is intercepted. In sixty yrs. of watching pro. football I've never seen that.

I do agree with Matty, other [B]receivers other than Moss have to step-up and begin to make a serious contribution to the offense. Both Thomas and Kelly were virtually invisible on Sunday, and no Davis either. [/B]It's time for Zorn to give these guys the opportunity to make some plays. They can't do anything if he won't put them in the game.[/quote]

You can do a search on my posts and see that I said I was "seriously pumped" about the emergence of Kelly and Thomas during the offseason. I bought into the hype about those guys.

But if there was ever a time when we needed them to step up and divert some attention away from Santana Moss, it was Sunday. You have to give the rookies the benefit of the doubt in year one. But it's year two now. These guys need to man up and show us why they were highly touted coming out of college.

Until then, they are proving the critics of Vinny Cerrato's talent evaluation exactly right.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;589566]Well, against the giants, we've seen what he can do when his offensive line gives him a ton time and his receivers get open - he holds on to the ball too long, overthrows open receivers, makes poor decisions, and locks on to Cooley and Randel El.

All last year the Campbell-lovers here blamed the offensive line and the fact that it was his first year in the system for Campbells lack of production. Now hes in his second year, the the line is doing a great job in pass protection and giving him time, you're saying we ran the ball too much and didnt use the shotgun enough???

why pass more when Campbell was doing a horrible job at passing? Why use the shotgun more when Campbell dropped a pefect shotgun snap that could have resulted in another turnover?

All we saw of Campbell against the Giants was just more affirmation for those that beleive he is not a starting-caliber QB. I'm willing to give him another two or three games, but if his line continues to hold up and Campbell continues to make poor decisions, he's never going to start in this league again. He's simply running out of excuses.

We lost the game by 7 points and Campbell lost us atleast 7 points when the Giants took the ball out of his hand and ran it in for a TD. If we had scored even a field goal on that drive, or the one where he threw the INT, we would have had enough points to win the game. If not, we would have atleast been in an overtime situation. Yes, some of Zorn's playcalling sucked; Yes, our secondary looked mediocre; but Jason Campbell's poor decision-making cost us the game.[/quote]It's probably erroneous to say it was Campbell's decision-making that cost us the game since failing to step up in the pocket away from pressure does not fall under the category of "bad-decision". Audibling to a run on 3rd and 8 does constitute a bad decision, but, if the defense would get off the field, it's a meaningless play.

You can't confuse the fact that we didn't convert the 3rd and 8 in part because Campbell made a boneheaded audible with the fact that the combination of ineffective running and crappy defense made that 3rd and 8 an unreasonably high-leverage situation for a third quarter play. Sure, THAT play was the point at which it became unlikely the Redskins would win, but considering that the league-wide conversion rate on third and eight is ~25%, Campbell's decision to run the ball simply turned it into roughly a ~15% conversion.

It's a mistake, but on a team with a good defense, a error with 5 minutes to go in the third quarter does not give you a team that will only see the ball twice the rest of the game.

Let's put this another way: if our passing game does not get any more effective than it was on Sunday, I would still expect a balanced team to win 10+ games. If the Redskins only win 6 or 7, it's because they are a horribly unbalanced team with a decent pass offense and liabilities elsewhere.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;589566]Well, against the giants, we've seen what he can do when his offensive line gives him a ton time and his receivers get open - he holds on to the ball too long, overthrows open receivers, makes poor decisions, and locks on to Cooley and Randel El.

All last year the Campbell-lovers here blamed the offensive line and the fact that it was his first year in the system for Campbells lack of production. Now hes in his second year, the the line is doing a great job in pass protection and giving him time, you're saying we ran the ball too much and didnt use the shotgun enough???

why pass more when Campbell was doing a horrible job at passing? Why use the shotgun more when Campbell dropped a pefect shotgun snap that could have resulted in another turnover?

All we saw of Campbell against the Giants was just more affirmation for those that beleive he is not a starting-caliber QB. I'm willing to give him another two or three games, but if his line continues to hold up and Campbell continues to make poor decisions, he's never going to start in this league again. He's simply running out of excuses.

We lost the game by 7 points and Campbell lost us atleast 7 points when the Giants took the ball out of his hand and ran it in for a TD. If we had scored even a field goal on that drive, or the one where he threw the INT, we would have had enough points to win the game. If not, we would have atleast been in an overtime situation. Yes, some of Zorn's playcalling sucked; Yes, our secondary looked mediocre; but Jason Campbell's poor decision-making cost us the game.[/quote]

Wow, the OL did a great job??

Yikes, have our expectations sunk that low?

They did a fair job in my eyes. If I'm grading them I'd give them a C.

As for the bobbled shotgun snap, the snap came in low and hot (hardly perfect) as pointed out by Aikman. JC turned it into a 23 yard gain to Betts, not sure why you are trying to spin that into a negative.

There are many factors that went into the loss, it's kinda shortsighted to finger one guy but I guess that's par for the course when it comes to JC.

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[quote=Beemnseven;589608]You can do a search on my posts and see that I said I was "seriously pumped" about the emergence of Kelly and Thomas during the offseason. I bought into the hype about those guys.

But if there was ever a time when we needed them to step up and divert some attention away from Santana Moss, it was Sunday. You have to give the rookies the benefit of the doubt in year one. But it's year two now. These guys need to man up and show us why they were highly touted coming out of college.

Until then, they are proving the critics of Vinny Cerrato's talent evaluation exactly right.[/quote]Now, when the ball was thrown at receivers who were not Santana Moss, we completed more than 80% of our passes for better than 9 yards an attempt.

Perhaps there wasn't a problem with Kelly or Thomas in this game, but simply that our two interior receivers were so wide open most of the game that there was no reason to go past them in the progression. The statistics certainly support this to be the case.

The only negative plays in the passing game happened when the ball went to Moss, who just got embarrassed in his one-on-one matchup with Webster. If there's any part of the passing game that needs to step it up, it starts and ends with him. Kelly did fine.

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[quote=GTripp0012;589616]Now, when the ball was thrown at receivers who were not Santana Moss, we completed more than 80% of our passes for better than 9 yards an attempt.

[B]Perhaps there wasn't a problem with Kelly or Thomas in this game, but simply that our two interior receivers were so wide open most of the game that there was no reason to go past them in the progression. The statistics certainly support this to be the case.[/B]

The only negative plays in the passing game happened when the ball went to Moss, who just got embarrassed in his one-on-one matchup with Webster. If there's any part of the passing game that needs to step it up, it starts and ends with him. Kelly did fine.[/quote]

But don't you think that was by design? Wouldn't the interior receivers underneath be second in the progressions?

With Cooley especially, I could see how they figured they could take their chances with Cooley underneath knowing he didn't get into the endzone much last season. Ditto for ARE -- they took away Moss and Portis knowing they are the major scoring threats and gave us whatever we wanted yardage-wise between the 20's.

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[quote=Beemnseven;589626]But don't you think that was by design? Wouldn't the interior receivers underneath be second in the progressions?

With Cooley especially, I could see how they figured they could take their chances with Cooley underneath knowing he didn't get into the endzone much last season. Ditto for ARE -- they took away Moss and Portis knowing they are the major scoring threats and gave us whatever we wanted yardage-wise between the 20's.[/quote]In shotgun formations, the progression generally tends to be inside out. You know the old saying that nothing good happens when you throw late over the middle? Coaches usually teach the quarterback to look inside out because once the inside receivers show the defense what they are running, the window to get the ball in closes pretty quickly.

The time to use the outside guys in the passing game would have been inside the red zone, but given that our two trips to the red zone in this game produced exactly two [I]attempts[/I], not for Kelly or Thomas but for ALL receivers, into the end zone, you can imagine why we couldn't get them the ball.

You can't have two attempts at throwing a touchdown from the red zone in a game. The possession where we scored on the fake FG was proof of this. On first down we ran the ball. On second down, we threw a WR screen to Moss. Zorn needs to pick one, or the other, not both. Campbell had no chance to make a play on third down because the Giants just sent a creative blitz and got a hit on the quarterback. We completely pissed away that oppertunity for a TD, and scored on a gimmick.

The second time, the playcalling wasn't quite as awful, we just tried to run the ball and ended up losing 6 yards on first down. That's going to happen with a young RT like Heyer. But that caused us to use our second down play to get in a managable third down, which we did, except then Campbell didn't have anyone open in the end zone and was sacked.

In hindsight, we got as many points in the red zone (10) as the players earned on Sunday, but it could have been catastrophic if not for the fake FG. That play really bailed us out from a potential blowout.

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[quote=GTripp0012;589631]In shotgun formations, the progression generally tends to be inside out. You know the old saying that nothing good happens when you throw late over the middle? Coaches usually teach the quarterback to look inside out because once the inside receivers show the defense what they are running, the window to get the ball in closes pretty quickly.

The time to use the outside guys in the passing game would have been inside the red zone, but given that our two trips to the red zone in this game produced exactly two [I]attempts[/I], not for Kelly or Thomas but for ALL receivers, into the end zone, you can imagine why we couldn't get them the ball.

You can't have two attempts at throwing a touchdown from the red zone in a game. The possession where we scored on the fake FG was proof of this. On first down we ran the ball. On second down, we threw a WR screen to Moss. Zorn needs to pick one, or the other, not both. Campbell had no chance to make a play on third down because the Giants just sent a creative blitz and got a hit on the quarterback. We completely pissed away that oppertunity for a TD, and scored on a gimmick.

The second time, the playcalling wasn't quite as awful, we just tried to run the ball and ended up losing 6 yards on first down. That's going to happen with a young RT like Heyer. But that caused us to use our second down play to get in a managable third down, which we did, except then Campbell didn't have anyone open in the end zone and was sacked.

In hindsight, we got as many points in the red zone (10) as the players earned on Sunday, but it could have been catastrophic if not for the fake FG. That play really bailed us out from a potential blowout.[/quote]

I see what you're saying, but I wasn't really talking about red zone situations only. Yes, we weren't there often enough to make a good judgement either way. I'm talking about taking deeper shots downfield to the outside receivers (deep-ins, deep-outs, etc.) -- and as I've said before, to the observer watching on TV, it's difficult to see exactly what's happening with the wideouts because they are always out of the shot. I'd be interested to see exactly how many plays were drawn up that specifically targeted Kelly, Thomas, and Moss down the sidelines, 20 yards+, near or outside the numbers.

In the end, I suppose it's hard to make an assessment of the receivers when we're so hell-bent on pretending to be a power running team.

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[quote=Beemnseven;589637]I see what you're saying, but I wasn't really talking about red zone situations only. Yes, we weren't there often enough to make a good judgement either way. I'm talking about taking deeper shots downfield to the outside receivers (deep-ins, deep-outs, etc.) -- and as I've said before, to the observer watching on TV, it's difficult to see exactly what's happening with the wideouts because they are always out of the shot. I'd be interested to see exactly how many plays were drawn up that specifically targeted Kelly, Thomas, and Moss down the sidelines, 20 yards+, near or outside the numbers.

In the end, I suppose it's hard to make an assessment of the receivers when we're so hell-bent on pretending to be a power running team.[/quote]It's true that we'll never really know how good a job that the young receivers are doing in games where they aren't getting the ball much. I just have to assume that we simply didn't have enough balls to go around on Sunday. The solution seems simple: create more passing attempts, but Zorn seems like the kind of guy who is never going to throw more than 60% of the time no matter how glaring the defense is defending the run.

We should have success running on the Rams. They have pass rushers that we'll have to contend with.

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[quote=Mattyk72;589235]The Giants didn't play all that great either. I'm kinda perplexed over those saying we got outclassed or dominated.[/quote]

Do not understand it either . There seems to be alot of excuses out there for a lack luster preformance. Giants just looked a little faster and the Skin's played in Sloooooow motion.

Did anyone look at Zorn on the sidelines he looked like a defeated man in the 2nd quater.

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[quote=Njall;589674]Do not understand it either . There seems to be alot of excuses out there for a lack luster preformance. Giants just looked a little faster and the Skin's played in Sloooooow motion.

[B]Did anyone look at Zorn on the sidelines he looked like a [B]defeated[/B] man in the 2nd quater.[/B][/quote]

I didn't see "defeated." I saw Zorn looking downright angry. He was also shown chewing folks out in his anger. He had the same MO last year. As much as I like Zorn, I think this is a major failing of his. I don't think that players respond well to his public anger. If he wants to get angry, he has plenty of time to do so behind closed doors.

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We could release JC and cut our losses, put in Collins (that once lead us to the playoffs), and sign Chase Daniel as our back up.

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[quote=Lotus;589689]I didn't see "defeated." I saw Zorn looking downright angry. He was also shown chewing folks out in his anger. He had the same MO last year. As much as I like Zorn, I think this is a major failing of his. I don't think that players respond well to his public anger. If he wants to get angry, he has plenty of time to do so behind closed doors.[/quote]

You like Zorn and Campbell? Wow... I saw defeat not anger in Zorn. But you are a fan of both so you will find excuses. J.Campbell gave up an interception and Zorn stands there basically consoling Campbel. That mentality is why Skin's will go 8-8 at best and Zorn and Campbell will be out of jobs and no NFL team wants Campbell.... Maybe he should get a bus ticket to Canada and play in the CFL or the new league..Cuz he is not NFL material!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[quote=Apache516;589694]We could release JC and cut our losses, put in Collins (that once lead us to the playoffs), and sign Chase Daniel as our back up.[/quote]

I wish no harm to no one but best thing is Campbell to get hurt. Last time we made playoffs he got hurt. Collins gave us a ride to Seattle... Zorn has no confidence in him at the goal line he picks a running play..

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[quote=Apache516;589694]We could release JC and cut our losses, put in Collins (that once lead us to the playoffs), and sign Chase Daniel as our back up.[/quote]

You think Collins can move when you have the DL/DE from Dallas, NY and Phi barreling down his ass? Collins had a nice time as a backup when Campbell got hurt and that's about it. Campbell has played in one game and was not given many resources as far as other WR's on Sunday. Talk to me at the end of the season.

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[quote=Beemnseven;589608]You can do a search on my posts and see that I said I was "seriously pumped" about the emergence of Kelly and Thomas during the offseason. I bought into the hype about those guys.

But if there was ever a time when we needed them to step up and divert some attention away from Santana Moss, it was Sunday. You have to give the rookies the benefit of the doubt in year one. But it's year two now. These guys need to man up and show us why they were highly touted coming out of college.

Until then, they are proving the critics of Vinny Cerrato's talent evaluation exactly right.[/quote]

I agree, all three of those guys have to demonstrate they're worthy of their draft position. While none of them played very much last year for various reasons, they had the opportunity to observe and learn, going into their second year they should be producing. Sometimes I think Zorn may be overcoaching these guys and expecting them to be perfect. These guys need to play, and it's up to the coaches to find the best way to use them and put them in positions where they can make a contribution.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;589700]You think Collins can move when you have the DL/DE from Dallas, NY and Phi barreling down his ass? Collins had a nice time as a backup when Campbell got hurt and that's about it. Campbell has played in one game and was not given many resources as far as other WR's on Sunday. Talk to me at the end of the season.[/quote]


That's if he is not benched by week 5 . So you are telling me there will be other receivers outside the ones he already has. They got shut down and the secondary of Giants is not nothing to brag about. So what are you saying?

Last time i checked Collins took them to the playoffs . Campbell has no skills to lead a NFL team to anything. Why you think Denver did not want him? If he was so good with the receivers Denver has he would be great.

Why did Zorn pick a running play when they were backed up against their goal line? I will tell you no confidence.

Face the music he is done in D.C. ...Chase looked better than him.

Quicker release and faster in on his feet....

You tell me how Campbell is doing in the CFL next year.

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[quote=bigant;589499]yeah get rid of the GM,head coach and the bum at quarterback and go get a good GM or bring in shannahan or cowher to be both...[/quote]
DAN??? Is that you?

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[quote=Njall;589721]That's if he is not benched by week 5 . So you are telling me there will be other receivers outside the ones he already has. They got shut down and the secondary of Giants is not nothing to brag about. So what are you saying?

Last time i checked Collins took them to the playoffs . Campbell has no skills to lead a NFL team to anything. Why you think Denver did not want him? If he was so good with the receivers Denver has he would be great.

Why did Zorn pick a running play when they were backed up against their goal line? I will tell you no confidence.

Face the music he is done in D.C. ...Chase looked better than him.

Quicker release and faster in on his feet....

You tell me how Campbell is doing in the CFL next year.[/quote]

a) Collins took over a couple of years ago, not yesterday. Although he played well, there are other reasons which explain why the team played well down the stretch. And Collins, for all of his game savvy, is older and has a noodle of an arm. No one will respect his ability to throw downfield and Portis would face constant 8-in-the-box defenses.

b) Chase (who is no longer with the team, anyway) did not look better than Campbell. The Jacksonville defense made Chase look clueless.

Jason Campbell has been the best quarterback we've had on the roster for some time. He has many flaws but we would be a worse team if we started anyone else.

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[quote=Lotus;589747]a) Collins took over a couple of years ago, not yesterday. Although he played well, there are other reasons which explain why the team played well down the stretch. And Collins, for all of his game savvy, is older and has a noodle of an arm. No one will respect his ability to throw downfield and Portis would face constant 8-in-the-box defenses.

b) Chase (who is no longer with the team, anyway) did not look better than Campbell. The Jacksonville defense made Chase look clueless.

Jason Campbell has been the best quarterback we've had on the roster for some time. He has many flaws but we would be a worse team if we started anyone else.[/quote]

Couldn't have said better myself. I liked Chase, he didn't make the team cause he wasn't ready. I would take Chase over Collins but not Campbell. Cambell is our best option.

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[quote=Njall;589721]That's if he is not benched by week 5 . So you are telling me there will be other receivers outside the ones he already has. They got shut down and the secondary of Giants is not nothing to brag about. So what are you saying?

Last time i checked Collins took them to the playoffs . Campbell has no skills to lead a NFL team to anything. Why you think Denver did not want him? If he was so good with the receivers Denver has he would be great.

Why did Zorn pick a running play when they were backed up against their goal line? I will tell you no confidence.

Face the music he is done in D.C. ...Chase looked better than him.

Quicker release and faster in on his feet....

You tell me how Campbell is doing in the CFL next year.[/quote]

Please ,your telling me we would be better with Todd Collins as our starter. Come On Man lets get real. I don't care if we had Brett Farve as our starter he still would not get it done with our sorry ass Run Blocking against the Giants. The Vikings have a much better O-Line than we have. Portis gets the ball and there was no holes to run through cause the Giants plugged them up. Our team goes as C. Portis goes. When he runs for 100 yards his teams are 33-10. Like last season when Portis was leading the league in rushing we were 6-2 record. People we need to rush the football to help our passing game be successfull.

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[quote=Njall;589696]I wish no harm to no one but best thing is Campbell to get hurt. Last time we made playoffs he got hurt. Collins gave us a ride to Seattle... Zorn has no confidence in him at the goal line he picks a running play..[/quote]

Dude that was 2 years ago. We dont need fans like you want our players to get hurt WTF is that crap. Please go learn about the game of football player.

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[quote=Lotus;589747]a) Collins took over a couple of years ago, not yesterday. Although he played well, there are other reasons which explain why the team played well down the stretch. And Collins, for all of his game savvy, is older and has a noodle of an arm. No one will respect his ability to throw downfield and Portis would face constant 8-in-the-box defenses.

b) Chase (who is no longer with the team, anyway) did not look better than Campbell. The Jacksonville defense made Chase look clueless.

Jason Campbell has been the best quarterback we've had on the roster for some time. He has many flaws but we would be a worse team if we started anyone else.[/quote]

Thank you well said Lotus. We do have some fans that understand the game and not just blame everything on the QB.