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[quote=Bucket;589365]Wow...

CP lost a step? Man, that guy exploded through that hole. You guys need to see it again, because he didn't look slow to me. It looked like to me you had one guy diving after him after he shot through the hole, and the 2 DB's made a better angle to knock him out of bounds.

Let's just take a look shall we?

Starts at 35
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6XncGT7J8Y"][/URL]

Now watch how the DB's take a great angle on Portis.. Portis has always been known for his great vision, and ableness of following his blockers. He has the best vision in the NFL as a RB.

Now.. This

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY2QxgPoLuI&feature=fvw"][/URL]

Now in this video you see the safety #23 take the worse angle in football. I've seen 10 year old pee wee players take a better angle then that, and Portis had about 10 yards of sideline to make a better stretch, not the 3 yards in the first video on the short side of the field. Give the guy another 1- yards and he prolly catches Portis... Everyone who know the Redskins knows the Portis has never had breakaway speed. He's always been built for quick bursts and hitting the holes and producing long drives with the occasional big one.

All you people looking ot point a finger at why we lost on Sunday need to get over it. We were not going to go 16-0 this year, and we are prolly not going to go even 11-5. We are going to lose, and usually the losing team looks the worse out of the 2 teams. We just happen to be that team this week, and in all honesty.. I didn't think the game was that bad. We lost by 6 points against a team that won the SB 2 years ago?[/quote]

In the first video it took CP approx 6 seconds to travel 30 yards. In the second it only took him 4 seconds to travel 30 yards. There are many variables not considered such as the sync of the videos to real time, the fact that Clinton was possibly running more stream line in the first one, and him slowing down for contact in the second. The fact of the matter is that 2 seconds is a long time when you are sprinting. While Portis might not exactly be required to retire any time soon, it appears that he is a tad bit slower than he used to be.

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[quote=skinsfan69;589634][B]I don't think CP is in decline.[/B] He just shouldn't be the focus of the offense anymore. The QB should be. CP is not a game breaker and it's just time for a transition of a running team to a passing team. But the coach is either too stupid to realize it or he's too stubborn. What really pissed me off was watching the Balt. game. Watching Cam Cameron and Harbaugh just hand over the offense to a 2nd year QB from freakin Delaware and let him sling it all over the field. I don't think Balt. has better wr's than we do. My patience w/ Zorn's playcalling is over with, he appears to be in over his head and it's time to be on the Shanahan watch.[/quote]

Well, I take issue with your first statement because it's bound to happen to every player. I guess the only point to argue is to what degree his decline is in.

At times, Zorn's in-game performance falls apart when things don't go according to plan. Even though the Giants were stuffing up the running lanes, it's as if he locks up, doesn't know how to respond, and the only thing he can think of is to keep feeding the ball to Portis because he figures something will open up sooner or later. As a playcaller, he's still relatively new at this.

If it's not meant to be for Zorn in Washington, Shanahan would be my first choice.

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I wanted to rip the playcalling as well. Whether we like, Zorn likes it, Danny likes it, Jason Campbell is our QB. I just dont see them allowing him to run the supposed west coast offense. They are not allowing him to really throw the ball down field very much, and seems like they are not scheming very well. Giants were going to stop the run, left a lot of one on one with the receivers, I was surprised not to see more 3 or 4 WR sets spreading out the defense and running from that and throwing from it. It just doesn't make sense. Kelly, moss, thomas, davis, were all invisible in the passing game. that is ridiculous. If your getting stuffed every time you touch the ball, why not spread em out and get into some checks at the line. Zorn just doesn't seem to have the confidense in Campbell in my opinion. And if thats the case, he may as well get him shit packed up and start heading to the door.

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[quote=#56fanatic;589642]I wanted to rip the playcalling as well. Whether we like, Zorn likes it, Danny likes it, Jason Campbell is our QB. I just dont see them allowing him to run the supposed west coast offense. They are not allowing him to really throw the ball down field very much, and seems like they are not scheming very well. Giants were going to stop the run, left a lot of one on one with the receivers, I was surprised not to see more 3 or 4 WR sets spreading out the defense and running from that and throwing from it. It just doesn't make sense. Kelly, moss, thomas, davis, were all invisible in the passing game. that is ridiculous. If your getting stuffed every time you touch the ball, why not spread em out and get into some checks at the line. Zorn just doesn't seem to have the confidense in Campbell in my opinion. And if thats the case, he may as well get him shit packed up and start heading to the door.[/quote]

I don't think it's a Campbell confidence problem. It's a Zorn stubbornness 'I want what I want the way I want it' problem.

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[quote=Beemnseven;589641]Well, I take issue with your first statement because it's bound to happen to every player. I guess the only point to argue is to what degree his decline is in.

At times, Zorn's in-game performance falls apart when things don't go according to plan. Even though the Giants were stuffing up the running lanes, it's as if he locks up, doesn't know how to respond, and the only thing he can think of is to keep feeding the ball to Portis because he figures something will open up sooner or later. As a playcaller, he's still relatively new at this.

If it's not meant to be for Zorn in Washington, Shanahan would be my first choice.[/quote]

CP is still avery effective back and good enough to start. But he's simply not a game breaker like AP is. Or even Steven Jackson.

If an NFL HC can't make adjustments on the fly then it's time to go. Over the last half of last year and the 1st game of this year he simply looks in over his head. NY had injuries in the secondary and he didn't try and exploit that. Plus the blown timeouts. That is piss poor coaching. If I were Snyder I'd have Shanahan on speed dial. We wouldn't even have to change the offense either.

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Listening to the replay of the Zorn show on 980 ([url=http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=65&c=428&f=33690]ESPN 980 Audio Vault - Play Now[/url]) earlier today, yikes.

At the 2:53 mark he said, 'We were down 17 points, I wasn't panicking, I was running our plan... I could have abandoned the run and threw the ball but I felt we were in the game, totally'. What game was he at?

At the 3:50 mark when pressed on the pass/run balance in light of the score he said, 'On the sideline I'm looking for what runs are good.. I'm trying to establish we can be a running team, I'm looking for balance.' This speaks to his stubbornness and lack of game awareness. You've got to adjust and adapt to the situation.

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[quote=Paintrain;589657]Listening to the replay of the Zorn show on 980 ([URL="http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=65&c=428&f=33690"]ESPN 980 Audio Vault - Play Now[/URL]) earlier today, yikes.

At the 2:53 mark he said, 'We were down 17 points, I wasn't panicking, I was running our plan... I could have abandoned the run and threw the ball but I felt we were in the game, totally'. What game was he at?

At the 3:50 mark when pressed on the pass/run balance in light of the score he said, 'On the sideline I'm looking for what runs are good.. I'm trying to establish we can be a running team, I'm looking for balance.' This speaks to his stubbornness and lack of game awareness. You've got to adjust and adapt to the situation.[/quote]I wonder if we didn't get the huge run from Portis on the first offensive play, if Zorn would have realized the run wasn't going to be there. I feel like Zorn, much like saden suggested, spent the rest of the game trying to figure out how he could get Portis into the secondary again, instead of figuring out how to get the ball in the end zone as quickly as possible.

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[quote=GTripp0012;589669]I wonder if we didn't get the huge run from Portis on the first offensive play, if Zorn would have realized the run wasn't going to be there. I feel like Zorn, much like saden suggested, spent the rest of the game trying to figure out how he could get Portis into the secondary again, instead of figuring out how to get the ball in the end zone as quickly as possible.[/quote]

Exactly! It was like finding a $20 somewhere on the street and you keep walking down that street, even if it's out of the way, hoping to find another $20.

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[quote=Paintrain;589657]Listening to the replay of the Zorn show on 980 ([URL="http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=65&c=428&f=33690"]ESPN 980 Audio Vault - Play Now[/URL]) earlier today, yikes.

At the 2:53 mark he said, 'We were down 17 points, I wasn't panicking, I was running our plan... I could have abandoned the run and threw the ball but I felt we were in the game, totally'. What game was he at?

At the 3:50 mark when pressed on the pass/run balance in light of the score he said, 'On the sideline I'm looking for what runs are good.. I'm trying to establish we can be a running team, I'm looking for balance.' This speaks to his stubbornness and lack of game awareness. You've got to adjust and adapt to the situation.[/quote]

does zorn realize that you do whatever you need to do to score points? sometimes that means you have imbalance in your play calling. run or pass. he's such an idiot. he needs to be a qb coach and not a head coach/offensive coordinator.

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[quote=Bucket;589365]Wow...

CP lost a step? Man, that guy exploded through that hole. You guys need to see it again, because he didn't look slow to me. It looked like to me you had one guy diving after him after he shot through the hole, and the 2 DB's made a better angle to knock him out of bounds.[/quote]

After watching it a few more times, I get the same feeling. When he hits the hole there's a momentary burst, then no "second level". Maybe we're all spoiled watching Adrian Peterson, I don't know -- but every time I watch the clip I keep thinking "he's going to break this and score!" and then he looks like he's out of gas and gets tackled at the end.

I'm fully willing to say it's just perception, as I said, it's just how he looked to me.


[quote=Bucket;589365]All you people looking ot point a finger at why we lost on Sunday need to get over it. We were not going to go 16-0 this year, and we are prolly not going to go even 11-5. We are going to lose, and usually the losing team looks the worse out of the 2 teams. We just happen to be that team this week, and in all honesty.. I didn't think the game was that bad. We lost by 6 points against a team that won the SB 2 years ago?[/quote]

That wasn't fingerpointing. If anything I was pointing out how much we overrely on CP to win games and what toll that may be taking on him.

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[quote=GTripp0012;589669]I wonder if we didn't get the huge run from Portis on the first offensive play, if Zorn would have realized the run wasn't going to be there. I feel like Zorn, much like saden suggested, spent the rest of the game trying to figure out how he could get Portis into the secondary again, instead of figuring out how to get the ball in the end zone as quickly as possible.[/quote]

I could not agree more, Zorn is in over his head.....with shackles. :)

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[quote=dmvskinzfan08;589338]Oh and I think he was number one in first downs among running backs last year...[/quote]

and last with long runs

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[quote=dgack;589350]I'm a big CP fan, and there's no doubt that he's as tough as they come. That said, dude looked SLOW on Sunday. Even on that first big run, I thought "man, he looks like he's really lumbering on this gain". I don't know how much of that is due to him being tight, not really in game shape, age, or what -- but I think he's probably lost a half of a step, maybe more.

The stats are impressive but the one you're forgetting is the number of touches and attempts it took CP to rack up those yards last year -- 342 carries! Only Peterson and Turner had more last season and those guys have significantly fewer miles on them than CP does. In 2007 he led all running backs in attempts. In 2005, he was 4th.

We run the *hell* out of Portis, and that does not come without a price.[/quote]

I agree completely,IMO Portis time has come and gone.His speed his gone and so is his elusiveness,any time he trys to put on a move he slips.Hes great in pass protection but it wouldnt bother me a bit to have him set on the bench a game and see what the other backs can do.
That long run he had to start the game was all off line,that hole was fricking huge and half the backs in the league would have ran it that far and the other half would have probably scored.Portis best run is still the very first run he had with the skins and its been downhill since.Yes hes had good games and good seasons,but I was expecting the explosive back I saw in Denver,and the only time Ive seen that was on his first carry

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[quote=htownskinfan;589779]I agree completely,IMO [B]Portis time has come and gone.[/B]His speed his gone and so is his elusiveness,any time he trys to put on a move he slips.Hes great in pass protection but it wouldnt bother me a bit to have him set on the bench a game and see what the other backs can do.
That long run he had to start the game was all off line,that hole was fricking huge and half the backs in the league would have ran it that far and the other half would have probably scored.Portis best run is still the very first run he had with the skins and its been downhill since.Yes hes had good games and good seasons,but I was expecting the explosive back I saw in Denver,and the only time Ive seen that was on his first carry[/quote]

I don't know that his time has come and gone. He's just morphed. Now he is a power back, no longer a speed back.

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[quote=Lotus;589784]I don't know that his time has come and gone. He's just morphed. Now he is a power back, no longer a speed back.[/quote]

I can agree with that

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I read an article. I hope I can find it again. If I can I will post it. But said Portis ran a 4.3 like a year ago. Remember the race in OTAs between him and Landry? You think Landry is slow? They were neck to neck. Portis is only 28. he became a power back because of Gibbs. That's when he put on that weight. I think that is what happened. As far as long runs. people usually stack the box against us so that we can't run as effectively. Saying that CP still had the most first downs in the league. That is not a small thing. It could be the difference in winning games. Which was evident in the last 8 games. He was much of our success in the first hal of the season last year. Clinton is second in yards among active rushers behind only LT. AD doesn't have enough attempts to be put on the list yet. But he will be there also soon. LT CP AD. I think are the 3 best backs in the league (not in the specific order). Long runs are good and we all would love for him to break one or have a scat back that can break one. But this goes back to the arguement that was going on in the off season about which backs should stay or go. Think about it for a second...

Jacobs/Ward - NY
Barber/Jones - Dallas
White/Johnson - Tenn


Portis is faster than Jacobs, Barber and White in my opinion. But he also has power. He is a better all around back than them. But as far as that second guy. Betts is not that good and I wont even go to the 3rd strong RBs on these teams

Giants ran 3 backs last year. Jacobs, Bradshaw & Ward.

We saw three from this yesterady. With Jacobs, Ward & Ware. We probably would have saw three even if Ware didn't get hurt. Dallas has Barber, Jones and Choice. Ill end the convo here..

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I am going to throw this out there also.

[B]Both[/B] Eli and JC. Had a interception and a fumble and a similar passer rating.

Granted JC's int was returned for a TD. But both fumble were similar. They both got swiped.

We played bad as a team and still was in the game "mathmatically". But when the Giants have one of the most dominant D-lines in the league and we can't get a three and out when we need one from our D -- that is more telling than JC's mistakes. NOt to mention the stupid penalities on defense.

We will be much improve next week. But we must come out on fire and have some passion. If not we can lose to STL too.

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[quote=dgack;589350]I'm a big CP fan, and there's no doubt that he's as tough as they come. That said, dude looked SLOW on Sunday. Even on that first big run, I thought "man, he looks like he's really lumbering on this gain". I don't know how much of that is due to him being tight, not really in game shape, age, or what -- but I think he's probably lost a half of a step, maybe more.

The stats are impressive but the one you're forgetting is the number of touches and attempts it took CP to rack up those yards last year -- 342 carries! Only Peterson and Turner had more last season and those guys have significantly fewer miles on them than CP does. In 2007 he led all running backs in attempts. In 2005, he was 4th.

We run the *hell* out of Portis, and that does not come without a price.[/quote]


Well CP has banged up ribs. Next of all our O line is average at best. Not addressing the O line during the Turner/Marty era killed Stephen Davis, who was a killer back b efore he got totally banged up. I am afraid the same thing is happening to CP. Samuels was young when we had Davis, now he is an old vet.

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[quote=firstdown;589563]Now thats funny.[/quote]

F**KING hilarious

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[quote=Lotus;589591]As in, "I like to dipshit in my fondue"? "I work at the dip cage at the zoo and have to clean up dipshit all day"? Yeah, it is a strange word.[/quote]

Also a compound word yeah i paid attention in Language Arts class

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CP hasn't lsot a step.. That 34 yard gain was on the short side of the field, and if any of you have ever run the ball at a college level (d2) then you would know that it's not that simple to break away ont he short side of the field.

AP is probally the only back in the NFL that would of broken that all the way, and he would of had to break the 2 DB tackles first. They were playing soft coverage, and he wasn't able to break through the 2nd level.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;589328]Also besides the nice catch on the improvisation by Campbell what has Betts done? I would put Mason in place of Betts and see what happens.[/quote]

I bet a million that if betts got the 1st we wouldve been praising JC. Let it be known he had some space but the Midgets DL are monstrous.lol

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[quote=Paintrain;589524]I respectfully disagree. The play calling was horrendous. We ran on every first down but two until our final possession. We ran left 90% of the time when we ran. We ran stretch after stretch after stretch. [B]The WR screen to the short side of the field at the 6 lard line on 2nd and goal was beyond terrible[/B].

I'm convinced the formula for an effective offense is 65:35 pass, Campbell primarily from the shotgun. He was 14-17, 171, TD against the Giants from the gun. I am going to try to track that over the 1st half of the season and see how it bears itself out and if Zorn recognizes it as well and adjusts accordingly.[/quote]

OMG I had somehow forgotten this. Watched the game w/ a group of friends, all huge football fans though mostly not Skins fans, and the room went completely silent for about 5 seconds when we saw that play cuz it left everyone speechless. I took me a while before I could scream WTF at the tv! Does anybody have the first clue what Zorn was thinking when he called this play?

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;589572]Boom! Now if our O-line could hit that hard we'd be in business![/quote]

:laughing2

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[quote=skinsfan69;589688]does zorn realize that you do whatever you need to do to score points? sometimes that means you have imbalance in your play calling. run or pass. he's such an idiot. he needs to be a qb coach and not a head coach/offensive coordinator.[/quote]

Well in my opinion unless he just quites, he will be fired before the season is over. I feel he has no leadership skills that is needed in this league, to lead this team. Also in my opinion he seems and acts as though he is afraid to just let him men go out onto the field of honor and play football. He says he has confidence in his team but boy sure as hell doesn't show it.

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[quote=Bucket;589832]CP hasn't lsot a step.. That 34 yard gain was on the short side of the field, and if any of you have ever run the ball at a college level (d2) then you would know that it's not that simple to break away ont he short side of the field.

AP is probally the only back in the NFL that would of broken that all the way, and he would of had to break the 2 DB tackles first. They were playing soft coverage, and he wasn't able to break through the 2nd level.[/quote]

Ive went back and watched the replay about 5 times,and i amend my statement that 1/2 the backs would have broken it for a td,that was a ridiculous statement.However,I do think Portis has lost a step from the pounding hes taken the last few yrs,and Im still disapointed that he doesnt look like the back we thought we were getting.His longest runs have went down every yr sine he got here.That 34 yrd run was his longest since 2005,{which contradicts what Ive said about losing a step}but that hole was so big he was barely touched till he was tackled.Is it the off lines fault? I dont know.I do know that I would love to be proven wrong by Portis and you can rub it in my face all day long,cause if Im proven wrong then its helping the skins win which is what we all want
{oh,and it wasnt the short side of the field,just the opposite}

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Thinking about the game right now. Would it have been better if Jason ran the no huddle/shotgun during the Giants game. We could have worn out their DLine and they woulnd't have been able to make subsitutions. This is definitely an approach we should take because for the past few years he has looked productive when we run the offense like that and also its a good approach to take because he can se things quicker and take off if needed and also like I said if we are going up against a killer Dline it tires them out and they are not able to make subsitutions.

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[quote=dmvskinzfan08;589927]Thinking about the game right now. Would it have been better if Jason ran the no huddle/shotgun during the Giants game. We could have worn out their DLine and they woulnd't have been able to make subsitutions. This is definitely an approach we should take because for the past few years he has looked productive when we run the offense like that and also its a good approach to take because he can se things quicker and take off if needed and also like I said if we are going up against a killer Dline it tires them out and they are not able to make subsitutions.[/quote]

I hope Zorn is open to the idea considering the G-Men have own us for so long now. I agree no or hurry offense will stop them from running in frsh D-Linemen and hopefully tire them late in the game.

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I think Zorn also needs to use the screen pass to our backs more when we face agressive pass rushers. I see other teams using the screen pass and it sure is effective when called at the right time. Timing is everything in football but the screen will slow down the pass rushers some.

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[quote=dmvskinzfan08;589927]Thinking about the game right now. Would it have been better if Jason ran the no huddle/shotgun during the Giants game. We could have worn out their DLine and they woulnd't have been able to make subsitutions. This is definitely an approach we should take because for the past few years he has looked productive when we run the offense like that and also its a good approach to take because he can se things quicker and take off if needed and also like I said if we are going up against a killer Dline it tires them out and they are not able to make subsitutions.[/quote]

Yes. I said this all last year. I thought a little no huddle here and there, especially when the O line was taking a beating last year, would have kept Defenses at bay. The Bills used it effectively against the Pats.

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[quote=dmvskinzfan08;589927]Thinking about the game right now. Would it have been better if Jason ran the no huddle/shotgun during the Giants game. We could have worn out their DLine and they woulnd't have been able to make subsitutions. This is definitely an approach we should take because for the past few years he has looked productive when we run the offense like that and also its a good approach to take because he can se things quicker and take off if needed and also like I said if we are going up against a killer Dline it tires them out and they are not able to make subsitutions.[/quote]

This is a great point, and I think it could have helped. Someone else mentioned that the Giants only had 3 CB's active for the game. And thats why I have doubts about Zorn and his playcalling. Why you have 5 WR's active and dont go to more 4-5wide sets I just dont understand. If you see a weakness in the other team, I dont understand the reason why you dont take advantage of that....oh wait balance....what a load of crap.

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Cooley's take (with a note from CP):
[QUOTE]"I mean, fans are the best coaches in the world," Cooley joked. "And a little bit to their credit, so are a lot of us. In hindsight, calling a game is so easy. And a lot of the things that we do [wrong] are simple mistakes to fix. In hindsight, things are great. It's so hard to do what we do. And it's not like high school football, where guys can just go out and play.

"[B]I understand that everyone's upset, but they need to understand that this is the most important thing in our lives as well, and that we're the ones spending all the time and doing everything, and it matters. I mean, as much as it matters to any fan, to me, it's my life.[/B]"

Portis was given several opportunities to demand the ball more, or to criticize Coach Jim Zorn, or to criticize the play-calling, and he didn't even come close to losing his cool. He'd have made a horrible blog commenter this week. [/QUOTE]

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When we beat Minnesota in 2007 as part of our 4-win stretch to make the playoffs Gibbs pounded the rock to wear out the Williams' Wall, and by late 3rd quarter we were running through them.
I didn't like the majority of Jim Zorn's play calling, but that pound the rock philosophy has worked before. I like Zorn's balanced approach,- at least we're not AZ who only ran the ball 34% last year. Sometimes Zorn is too balanced though, and so damn predictable.

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[quote=franklinhimself;589992]When we beat Minnesota in 2007 as part of our 4-win stretch to make the playoffs Gibbs pounded the rock to wear out the Williams' Wall, and by late 3rd quarter we were running through them.
I didn't like the majority of Jim Zorn's play calling, but that pound the rock philosophy has worked before. I like Zorn's balanced approach,-[B] at least we're not AZ who only ran the ball 34% last year[/B]. Sometimes Zorn is too balanced though, and so damn predictable.[/quote]

Bad example. They went to the SB last year by running the ball 34% of the time, I would be fine with that.

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[quote=franklinhimself;589992][B]When we beat Minnesota in 2007 as part of our 4-win stretch to make the playoffs Gibbs pounded the rock to wear out the Williams' Wall, and by late 3rd quarter we were running through them. [/B]
I didn't like the majority of Jim Zorn's play calling, but that pound the rock philosophy has worked before. I like Zorn's balanced approach,- at least we're not AZ who only ran the ball 34% last year. Sometimes Zorn is too balanced though, and so damn predictable.[/quote]

We also raced out to a 25-0 nothing lead in that game by thowing 3 touchdown passes in the first half.

The "pounding the rock" philosophy worked when we had John Riggins, but those days are long gone. We don't have a running back remotely close to his style, and we certainly don't have the same type of offensive line. Most people don't know this, but after Riggins left, Gibbs and the Redskins had become a passing team, and, in fact Gibbs as an offensive coordinator for San Diego under Don Coryell was as wide open and wild as an offense has ever been. It was only after Gibbs came here that he recognized his personnel wasn't suited for that type of scheme and adapted to the players he had.

Zorn needs to do the same thing, because clearly this offense has no idea what it's supposed to be.

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[quote=Bucket][B]CP hasn't lost a step.. [/B]That 34 yard gain was on the short side of the field, and if any of you have ever run the ball at a college level (d2) then you would know that it's not that simple to break away ont he short side of the field.

AP is probally the only back in the NFL that would of broken that all the way, and he would of had to break the 2 DB tackles first. They were playing soft coverage, and he wasn't able to break through the 2nd level.[/quote]

[quote=htownskinfan;589913]Ive went back and watched the replay about 5 times,and i amend my statement that 1/2 the backs would have broken it for a td,that was a ridiculous statement. However,[B] I do think Portis has lost a step from the pounding hes taken the last few yrs,[/B] and Im still disapointed that he doesnt look like the back we thought we were getting.His longest runs have went down every yr sine he got here.That 34 yrd run was his longest since 2005,{which contradicts what Ive said about losing a step}but that hole was so big he was barely touched till he was tackled.Is it the off lines fault? I dont know.I do know that I would love to be proven wrong by Portis and you can rub it in my face all day long,cause if Im proven wrong then its helping the skins win which is what we all want
{oh,and it wasnt the short side of the field,just the opposite}[/quote]

Look, even people around the league admit that Ladainian Tomlinson has lost a step -- so why is it impossible to think that Clinton Portis has?

It doesn't mean he's terrible or that he should be released. He's getting older, he doesn't run the way he used to, and it happens to every single player sooner or later.