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[quote=Redskin Warrior;603385]why doesn't Zorn send DT & MK in motion to get more separation?[/quote]The answer is simple: they both play the "X" position in the offense. Well, not exclusively. But the 'X' can't go in motion legally.

Moss loses a lot of effectiveness if you line him up on the line, which they will sometimes, if only to send Cooley in motion for a specific play. But then Moss usually isn't a big part of the play.

It's tough for a guy like Kelly to get separation, sometimes you just have to hope for a size mismatch.

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I think I've seen Kelly in motion

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[quote=SmootSmack;603390]I think I've seen Kelly in motion[/quote]Yeah. Zorn will go out of his way to design plays to get certain players involved, and one of the most useful film cues I have is when players go in motion, it's usually related to the play that will actually be called.

Especially if Zorn is trying to create a mismatch, which happens a lot. Problem is, the only mismatch Kelly and Thomas provide is if they are going up against Muggsy Bogges. Kelly seems to excel against zone coverages, however. No stats on that, just anecdotal evidence.

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[quote=GTripp0012;603381]Not the first two round guys. Particularly Robinson.

The O-Line is a problem, but it's a problem because Thomas, who was the key cog on the interior, is injured again. It's not a problem because Rinehart/Heyer can't play. Dockery-Rabach-Rinehart on the interior OL scares no one, but the hope is that by the end of the year, Rinehart is the best of the three.[/quote]

I don't buy that at all. We could've gotten Mack in the first round either with the pick or by trading down. Oher was there too. We might've not had the ability to pick up Loadholt, but Duke was right there.

There is no way in my mind that this:

Samuels, Dock, Rabback, Mack, Loadholt
Montgomery, Rinehart, Batiste, Robinson

Sounds worst than this:

Samuels, Dock, Rabback, Thomas, Heyer
Williams, Montgomery, Rinehart, Batiste

Thomas is already gone for the season if not for good.

Later in the season? No way! The time to play is now.

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;603314]Have you watched the replays with an isolation on the receivers? Randle-El, Kelly and Thomas are not getting separation. Moss and Cooley are the only guys getting open.[/quote]

As long as they're in single coverage, they're plenty open. There's a reason we were last in the league in pass interference calls last year and don't have any this year. If a guy is in single coverage, throw him the ball.

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It's not like Duke Robinson is doing much right now either though. A lot of teams passed on him, and he's been sitting now on the Panthers inactive roster.

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[quote=44Deezel;603400]As long as they're in single coverage, they're plenty open. There's a reason we were last in the league in pass interference calls last year and don't have any this year. If a guy is in single coverage, throw him the ball.[/quote]

Rarely does someone get really open in the NFL. That's why people talk about Favre and no one talks about Soup. Favre gets INTs but he's also a hall of famer. I'll take all of those INTs soup threw on Sunday as long as we win. We did win so, HAIL! That one pass when he beamed the ref in the grape was great. I wish they'd do that more often. I effing hate the refs and their BS calls.

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[quote=SmootSmack;603401]It's not like Duke Robinson is doing much right now either though. A lot of teams passed on him, and he's been sitting now on the Panthers inactive roster.[/quote]

True but Lionheart was sitting on the inactive roster too until Randy got hurt. What about Mack, Loadholt, and Oher? Loadholt and Oher are starting.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;603404]True but Lionheart was sitting on the inactive roster too until Randy got hurt. What about Mack, Loadholt, and Oher? Loadholt and Oher are starting.[/quote]

Well we did get Orakpo which I think will turn out pretty good. I agree it would have been nice if we had been able to have a 2nd or 3rd round pick to take an OL

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A few other numbers- In the Jim Zorn era (20 regular season games) thus far, the Redskins have scored 3 touchdowns in a game only 3 times. Pretty pitiful.

Also, we are currently 22nd in the NFL against the run and 19th in sacks, despite 3 of our 4 games being against the lowly Rams, Bucs, and Lions (combined 1-11). So much for the D-line being a big strength and Haynesworth opening things up for outside pass rushers. Oh, wait, nevermind, sacks are overrated. :doh:

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[quote=DFI;603074]6) London Fletcher has been a beast and is leading the league with 52 tackles. the next closest has 40. if this continues I don't see how London can be kept out of the pro bowl again this year.[/quote]

Keep it up London the unofficial season record, recognized by the league, is 214 tackles by Hardy Nickerson, LB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1993.

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[quote=SmootSmack;603408]Well we did get Orakpo which I think will turn out pretty good. I agree [B]it would have been nice if we had been able to have a 2nd or 3rd round pick to take an OL[/B][/quote]

That's all I'm saying.

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[quote=SmootSmack;603408]Well we did get Orakpo which I think will turn out pretty good. I agree it would have been nice if we had been able to have a 2nd or 3rd round pick to take an OL[/quote]Vinny...

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;603402]Rarely does someone get really open in the NFL. That's why people talk about Favre and no one talks about Soup. Favre gets INTs but he's also a hall of famer. I'll take all of those INTs soup threw on Sunday as long as we win. We did win so, HAIL! [B]That one pass when he beamed the ref in the grape was great. I wish they'd do that more often. I effing hate the refs and their BS calls[/B].[/quote]

:laughing2 I like that idea! Everytime we get a bad call, JC should laser the offending official right in the head. Good call Tramp! :food-smil

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[quote=53Fan;603428]:laughing2 I like that idea! Everytime we get a bad call, JC should laser the offending official right in the head. Good call Tramp! :food-smil[/quote]
He should aim a little lower, just below the belt, so the ball does not ricochet up in the air. :)

Re: looking at the numbers at the 25% mark of the season
 

[quote=53Fan;603428]:laughing2 I like that idea! Everytime we get a bad call, JC should laser the offending official right in the head. Good call Tramp! :food-smil[/quote]

I do what I can.