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Cut for a second kicker. That's bad. :D

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[quote=freddyg12;607826]I see what you're saying & if the right offer comes up I think you have to take it. But rebuilding doesn't have to mean dumping all vets. Moss has a few, if less explosive, years left. Betts might be cut next year, and Portis might be demoted if they draft a rb. Still, both can play as reserves at least & we ain't gettin anyone to pick up that huge contract of CP.[/quote]

You're right we're stuck w/ a few of our players no matter what b/c of their salaries. Really just trying to make the point if we want to rebuilt well let's not do it halfway, let's see what we can get for some players while they are still productive.

My guess is not much due to salary for most of our guys.

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Lets trade Portis, Sellers, Moss, ARE for some lineman and play all the young guys. Bout time we see what they can do as the main options. I would say trade JC but we know nobody wants him.

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Has anyone else heard this? We are shoping Monty?

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/13/redskins-shopping-anthony-montgomery/]Redskins shopping Anthony Montgomery | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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[quote=mlmpetert;607852]Has anyone else heard this? We are shoping Monty?

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/13/redskins-shopping-anthony-montgomery/]Redskins shopping Anthony Montgomery | ProFootballTalk.com[/url][/quote]

Hadn't heard it. But it wouldn't surprise me. We were hoping to trade either Golston or Montgomery last spring so this isn't a shocker.

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[quote=BrunellMVP?;607801]so are you saying the skins should be doing a fire sale? i think i'd agree with that...
I think betts value is about 0, inline wiith his IQ.
Moss certainly has value, so does [B]cooley[/B].

who else?[/quote]

No, no, no, no, no, :nono: Cooley may have trade value, but he is the one person that is not for sale. Everyone else on the roster is fair game except for this man. You should be :spank: for even saying that.

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[quote=htownskinfan;607827]I hope we dont go after brady quinn.From what i heard the cleveland players were about to mutiny if quinn started again,so anderson was given the chance.he goes 2-17 and keeps his job!you have to really suck if you cant take the job away from somebody who goes 2-17[/quote]

Ugh, I picked up DA in one of my FF leagues because I had Brees on a bye and Eli was my backup, and he was looking like a gametime decision and since I was going to be out of town I didn't want to risk starting him. So DA gets me -2 points or some shit like that. 2/17 I mean c'mon.

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if we trade for anyone, it needs to be a young player. id definitely be down for brady quinn, definitely has all the tools and was a great leader in college.

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[quote=mlmpetert;607852]Has anyone else heard this? We are shoping Monty?

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/13/redskins-shopping-anthony-montgomery/]Redskins shopping Anthony Montgomery | ProFootballTalk.com[/url][/quote]

I know we need an OL but send him to Cleveland for Brady, you can also throw in Betts and Thomas.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;607864]I know we need an OL but send him to Cleveland for Brady, you can also throw in Betts and Thomas.[/quote]

All that for Brady Quinn?

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[quote=SmootSmack;607867]All that for Brady Quinn?[/quote]

And a backup OL. Is Fraley still on the Browns? He's from Gaithesburg. The Browns won't give Brady away.

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Seriously though, this team will make a move. Not freaking out and taking it's lumps is not in the playbook.

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Yeah, our FO will trade away our entire draft for another defensive player.

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What's the deal on Quinn? On one hand, I've seen him in a couple games and he looked okay - not great but not horrible. On the other, he can't beat out Derek Anderson. What's the "scout's take" on him?

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[quote=JoeRedskin;607875]What's the deal on Quinn? On one hand, I've seen him in a couple games and he looked okay - not great but not horrible. On the other, he can't beat out Derek Anderson. What's the "scout's take" on him?[/quote]

[url=http://www.cleveland.com/browns/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1255422705302750.xml&coll=2]ANALYSIS - Cleveland.com[/url]

Tuesday, October 13, 2009
Mary Kay Cabot
Plain Dealer Reporter
Could Brady Quinn be the next first-round pick to go?
With the trading deadline looming Oct. 20, it wouldn't be surprising if Quinn went the way of receiver Braylon Edwards and was dealt to another team.
Browns coach Eric Mangini made it clear Monday that he's sticking with Derek Anderson at quarterback despite a 2-of-17 performance for 23 yards, one interception and a 15.1 rating in a 6-3 win over the Bills a day earlier.
"D.A. will continue to start," Mangini said.
That means Quinn is stuck on the bench, where he's watching $11 million slip away. This year was the last chance for Quinn to hit the escalators in his contract that would earn him an additional $11 million -- on top of the $9.2 million over five years in his base contract. The only stipulation was that he had to take 70 percent of the snaps -- which now appears highly unlikely unless Anderson gets hurt.
Quinn would have needed to start about 11 games this season to hit that 70 percent mark -- and he's played in only 2½ games, with little chance of getting on the field anytime soon.
Quinn's agent, Tom Condon, could not be reached for comment, but Quinn and his camp would most likely welcome a trade and a chance to start. Condon last week watched his other high-profile Brown - Edwards - get dealt to the New York Jets, where he gets a fresh start on a 3-1 team (before Monday night's game against the Dolphins) and maybe even a new contract.
Quinn, on the other hand, can't get on the field in place of a quarterback who now has one touchdown pass, five interceptions and a 39.0 rating - the worst in the league. Quinn, who started against some of the best teams and defenses in the NFL - the 5-0 Vikings, 5-0 Broncos and 3-2 Ravens - has better numbers than Anderson, with one touchdown, three interceptions, a 60.8 completion percentage to Anderson's 46.4, and a 62.9 rating.
But Anderson's ability to convert more third downs, move the chains and stretch the field has earned him the job - at least for now. Even linebacker D'Qwell Jackson credited Anderson Monday with energizing the Browns' defense.
"D.A. brought that spark," Jackson said. "He can make every throw on that field. It's good knowing as a defensive player, if you get your offense more than enough opportunities, they'll move the ball and create points."
The Browns have no real incentive for trading Quinn now - unless someone makes them an offer they can't refuse. But there's probably not much of a market for a quarterback who's 1-5 and was benched this season on a bad team. If he does get back on the field and has a better showing, his market value, obviously, would increase.
Besides, Quinn is not hanging out at nightclubs after dark, complaining about being benched or otherwise presenting a distraction. He's making only $1.72 million this season, not outlandish for a good backup.
There are a few teams that could use quarterbacks, but they're in such disarray that such a move is on the back burner right now. Teams such as Washington and Carolina have quarterback issues but also have coaches on the hot seat.
JaMarcus Russell is struggling in Oakland, but the Raiders are unlikely to come after Quinn. Currently, there's not much leaguewide buzz about the former Notre Dame star.
But everyone knows the Browns would be willing to at least listen to offers, because the team took calls on Quinn during the off-season - and already have dealt first-rounders Kellen Winslow and Edwards.
Mangini has said on numerous occasions that he would do anything to improve the team. So Quinn is not untouchable, even though former Browns General Manager Phil Savage surrendered a first-round pick in 2008 to trade up with Dallas to get him.
Quinn's contract also makes him tradable. If he doesn't hit the 70 percent mark this season, he's due to make a reasonable $2.08 million next year with a $700,000 bonus. The year after, he's a free agent.
Truth is, no one really knows what Quinn can do on this level. Several league sources have said they're still convinced he has what it takes to be a successful NFL quarterback - in the right situation. And Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis would give any team a glowing scouting report on him.
Perhaps the Browns haven't given up on him entirely and are trying to preserve his psyche for the future. With a rebuilding line and mostly youngsters at receiver, maybe team officials and coaches figured they'd get him out of a hopeless situation before his confidence was shattered - or even his bones.
After sitting for most of his first two seasons and now being benched in his third, Quinn undoubtedly would love to go somewhere to play - even though it's been his lifelong dream to play for the Browns.
And, if Anderson wasn't starting, he might have asked the Browns to look around before the deadline.
If the Browns do trade Quinn, they'd have former Jet Brett Ratliff as their backup - a Mangini favorite. The way it looks right now, the perfect suitor doesn't seem to be out there. But all that could change by a week from today.

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Mangini is an idiot, how in the hell he got another HC job is beyond me. He gets rid of Winslow, Edwards, and soon possibly Quinn. Meanwhile he is bringing over all of those former Jets that played for him. The messed up thing is that the Jets are getting better and better and the Browns keep getting worse. I cannot believe that he worked his way up from watching film for Belichick to wrecking the Jets and Browns.

I wondered why the Jets let him go after last season, but now I see why.

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[quote=Angry;607880]Mangini is an idiot, how in the hell he got another HC job is beyond me. He gets rid of Winslow, Edwards, and soon possibly Quinn. Meanwhile he is bringing over all of those former Jets that played for him. The messed up thing is that the Jets are getting better and better and the Browns keep getting worse. I cannot believe that he worked his way up from watching film for Belichick to wrecking the Jets and Browns.

[B]I wondered why the Jets let him go after last season, but now I see why[/B].[/quote]

Everybody hated him in New York...seriously I've never heard of one coach (or player or GM or owner) so universally hated by everyone in his organization from receptionists to interns to security guards to janitors to other coaches to players and so on

It's remarkable that Edwards and Winslow had more TD receptions this weekend than Derek Anderson had completions

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[quote=SmootSmack;607886]Everybody hated him in New York...seriously I've never heard of one coach (or player or GM or owner) so universally hated by everyone in his organization from receptionists to interns to security guards to janitors to other coaches to players and so on

It's remarkable that [B]Edwards[/B] and Winslow had more TD receptions this weekend than Derek Anderson had completions[/quote]

I am glad that I hung onto him in fantasy. He will be starting for me next week.

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um... am i the only one that thinks we should be in sell mode, not buy mode? We're going to have a new coach next year and he's going to want his own groceries. Sell, sell, sell. We need draftpicks, not players.

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I wonder how much we'd get in a trade for Montgommery. I'm thinking a 6th or 7th rounder is the most we could hope for. Still, considering we'll have a new HC and hopefuly new GM next year, we need as many picks as we can get. Right now, i'd consider trading [I]anyone[/I] we can afford to trade (capwise) for draft-picks.

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How about we get a LB and move Orakpo to DE and also pick up an OL?

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[quote=SmootSmack;607867]All that for Brady Quinn?[/quote]

What the hell has Brady Quinn done? I guess some people think he is better than JC..NOT. He was so highly heralded when he was drafted. He was so intelligent. But when he plays he looks like crap. Im selling!!!

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;607752]Exactly. For once we're going to have to play the cards we're dealt and address this during the offseason. Of course like most Skins fans I have a glimmer of hope, but realistically this season is probably done and it saddens me to say it.[/quote]

That's sound reasoning. We may as well work with what we have and hope the FO will finally wake up and realize that where the O-line is concerned, we need to draft quality linemen. We need good young men that the odds favor being able to play an entire season. We need to draft another Russ Grimm, and another Mark May

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[quote=SouperMeister;607794]I want Snyder to see that we're way past saving this season with a deadline trade. If anything, we should look for opportunities to stockpile future draft picks. Perhaps Carlos Rogers to a team desperate for a starting caliber CB.[/quote]

How is Barnes progressing?

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[quote=CultBrennan59;607795]Don't get Brady Quinn! And trade Betts not Moss...And Chase Daniels is now a FA by the way[/quote]

I agree with you for once. I would rather have Chase than Quinn. I would keep Moss and get rid of Betts with flash.

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[quote=dmvskinzfan08;607921]What the hell has Brady Quinn done? I guess some people think he is better than JC..NOT. He was so highly heralded when he was drafted. He was so intelligent. But when he plays he looks like crap. Im selling!!![/quote]

I think that under the right tutelage and change of scenery that he could find his way again. He actually looked decent last year.

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The Redskins are reportedly shopping Anthony Montgomery. Not sure what they are seeking whether it be a draft choice or a reserve OLineman.

Part of the problem with the Redskins is, what talent do we have that is an attraction to other teams?

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[quote=PennSkinsFan;607932]The Redskins are reportedly shopping Anthony Montgomery. Not sure what they are seeking whether it be a draft choice or a reserve OLineman.

Part of the problem with the Redskins is, what talent do we have that is an attraction to other teams?[/quote]

We've probably got one or two janitors, a receptionist, and the guy who cleans the windows on Redskins1.

Seriously though, I'd say Cooley and Landry. The rest of our starters are either too old or shouldn't be starting in the first place.

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[quote=PennSkinsFan;607932]The Redskins are reportedly shopping Anthony Montgomery. Not sure what they are seeking whether it be a draft choice or a reserve OLineman.

Part of the problem with the Redskins is, what talent do we have that is an attraction to other teams?[/quote]

They should be shopping Golston before Montgomery, you might get more from him.

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Brady Quinn stinks! He also sucks donkey.

That is all.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;607756]I'd say that's a steal for us.[/quote]

I'd rathere have the box of rocks.

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The Redskins have made a habit of taking other teams' garbage. It'd be nice if we kept all of our draft choices and not take a bunch of losers.

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[quote=PennSkinsFan;607932]The Redskins are reportedly shopping Anthony Montgomery. Not sure what they are seeking whether it be a draft choice or a reserve OLineman.

Part of the problem with the Redskins is, what talent do we have that is an attraction to other teams?[/quote]

The one payer we did have that was attractive to just about every team in the league unfortunately is no longer with us. Who on your team another team would want to be a starter on theirs is a true measure of your team's talent level.

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Clayton is talking Roscoe Parrish to the Redskins again (kick returner/slot receiver). I trust him more than I do others but I just don't get that

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[quote=SmootSmack;607947]Clayton is talking Roscoe Parrish to the Redskins again (kick returner/slot receiver). I trust him more than I do others but I just don't get that[/quote]

Better than ARE back there but as a WR i dont know

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[quote=SmootSmack;607947]Clayton is talking Roscoe Parrish to the Redskins again (kick returner/slot receiver). I trust him more than I do others but I just don't get that[/quote]

That would be a very dumb move. Doesn't he have fumbilitis anyway?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;607928]I think that under the right tutelage and change of scenery that he could find his way again. He actually looked decent last year.[/quote]

And you think he would get that here with our coaching staff and our o-line..ROTFL. They can't even give JC the proper tutelage...

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[quote=Longtimefan;607946]The one payer we did have that was attractive to just about every team in the league unfortunately is no longer with us. Who on your team another team would want to be a starter on theirs is a true measure of your team's talent level.[/quote]

Exactly. I'll know we're a good team when the splashy free agent signings are coming from the Skins, not to them.

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[quote=dmvskinzfan08;607959]That would be a very dumb move. Doesn't he have fumbilitis anyway?[/quote]

He does.

I think another Bills WR maybe coming to town! It's been nice knowing you, Devin Thomas. Well, not really.

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[quote=theJBexperience;608007]He does.

I think another Bills WR maybe coming to town! It's been nice knowing you, Devin Thomas. Well, not really.[/quote]

Hey we have now descended in to the hell that is chaos, so we might as well bring TO here. Fact of the matter is we can't develop receivers in house-protest Hixon's innocence all you want, we still can't develop receivers. Moss and ARE would be actually complimentary to TO in terms of skill sets, and TO and CP have a joint press conference where they both say - That's my quarterback.

I seriously would like that at this point. Cooley, Moss, TO, ARE, someone would be open