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[quote=Paintrain;612327]I don't get how you make the leap from how/if someone else was approached to 'that's how they are going to treat the next coach'. As far as I know, Snyder has treated all of his coaches in the same manner. Turner, he berated and fired publicly. Schotty, he challenged and fired. Spurrier resigned with little resistance. Gibbs retired. Zorn is clearly a lame duck and a conversation was had. How is that a precursor to future behavior?

I don't really see anything wrong with asking your preferred choice, 'Is there a circumstance that you would come and take over in season?' It's not like they were negotiating contract terms while Zorn is putting together the gameplan. I'm not a big Snyder guy but he gets shredded for everything, even if it's not a big deal.[/quote]

I think it's a big deal that he offered someone a job that was filled at the moment. I know the NFL is special but there still is a professional accumen that is expected when dealing with people.

If you're telling me that I should expect that Snyder has none, then I'd say you're right. I'd also say that would effect the level of desire and the overall quality of the coaches that come to Redskins.

I know real life examples don't work for the likes of the NFL but on a human level...If you heard that your job was offered to someone else when you currently were on the clock, you'd probably be a little put out.

Gruden even remarked on it. He distanced himself from any talk of him taking over because it was unethical.
[URL="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2009/10/jon-gruden-distances-himself-from-redskins-louisville-coaching-jobs/1"]Jon Gruden distances himself from Redskins, Louisville coaching jobs - The Huddle: Football News from the NFL - USATODAY.com[/URL]

If Snyder looks bad it's because his reputation precedes him and it is certainly warranted.

Professionally speaking, people don't deal with owners/managers who work like that because that is how you'll be dealt with when it's your time to go.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;612186]Playcalling might be better, but it all boils down to execution. Zorn might not be a good play caller, but still the players should be able to execute them no matter what is called.[/quote]

If the D knows that your going run a stretch play ever 1st down, your not going to be sucessful.

Re: Reputation of Sherman Lewis- our new play caller
 

Sherman Lewis
Green Bay Packers Offensive Coordinator1992-1999
Minnesota Vikings Offensive Coordinator 2000-2001
Detroit Lions Offensive Coordinator 2003-2004

He cant be worst than Zorn.....he has called plays before!

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[quote=Green1;612343]Sherman Lewis
Green Bay Packers Offensive Coordinator1992-1999
Minnesota Vikings Offensive Coordinator 2000-2001
Detroit Lions Offensive Coordinator 2003-2004

He cant be worst than Zorn.....he has called plays before![/quote]

Here's real insight of Lewis' history.. Doesn't look real good..

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/19/AR2009101903354.html]washingtonpost.com[/url]

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Is there any way people can wait to lambast this move until we see the end result. JZ's problem has been that he doesn't seem responsive and reactive to the defenses. He has his plan and pushes execution. I am very hopeful that a man who was in football his whole life and crafted successful offenses, can come in take our parts and maybe give us the spark that we all want to see. Certainly if our offense can make ANY strides, our D will have more of a chance to take over game.

Re: Reputation of Sherman Lewis- our new play caller
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;612431]Is there any way people can wait to lambast this move until we see the end result. JZ's problem has been that he doesn't seem responsive and reactive to the defenses. He has his plan and pushes execution. I am very hopeful that a man who was in football his whole life and crafted successful offenses, can come in take our parts and maybe give us the spark that we all want to see. Certainly if our offense can make ANY strides, our D will have more of a chance to take over game.[/quote]

You need to stop giving this front office the benefit of the doubt. Just because they're making changes doesn't mean there will be a different result. That's how they've been fooling everyone in the offseason. Buying expensive free agents and teasing fans into thinking they'll be different.

This front office deserves all the doubt they've garnered. Things aren't going to change because they've tinkered with the team. They're not qualified to be making any adjustments to an NFL team so there's not much to expect here.

I'll wait to see how it turns out but it's going to be with cautious pessimism.

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[quote=SBXVII;612219]Does it matter? Lewis will call the plays for the Eagles game and Zorn will be fired. Lewis will be named Intrim HC for the remaining part of the season. He'll get an interview to satisfy the Rooney rule and DS will bring in some GM, who will decide on a HC maybe with DS's persuation and everyone of the coaching staff will be cut. New blood brought in and players evaluated for the future of the team.

My gut feeling.[/quote]
I'm diggin that dude..

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[quote=Skinny Tee;612305][B]This may be old news but when we spoke last about this topic it was wild rumor. This now has been confirmed as truth.[/B]

Most the things we speak about on here are basically what ifs because we don't really know what the front office does behind closed doors but this affirms that they committed this action during this offseason.

I think it speaks volumes about what they plan to do this offseason and how they plan to structure the future front office...with or without Vinny.

It also speaks about how they are going to treat the next coach who comes to DC. They offered a job to someone without first having a vacancy. If that is no big deal to you then you're probably not one of the perspective coaches for the Washington Redskins because they'd probably give this some thought.

[URL="http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/10/19/sources-mike-shanahan-turned-down-redskins-coaching-job/"]Sources: Mike Shanahan Turned Down Redskins Coaching Job -- NFL FanHouse[/URL][/quote]

I guess I'll ask the same question here that I asked in another thread. What is so true now that we didn't know two weeks ago?

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[quote=Skinny Tee;612443][B]You need to stop giving this front office the benefit of the doubt.[/B] Just because they're making changes doesn't mean there will be a different result. That's how they've been fooling everyone in the offseason. Buying expensive free agents and teasing fans into thinking they'll be different.

[B]This front office deserves all the doubt they've garnered. [/B]Things aren't going to change because they've tinkered with the team. They're not qualified to be making any adjustments to an NFL team so there's not much to expect here.

I'll wait to see how it turns out but it's going to be with cautious pessimism.[/quote]
I will keep giving them the benefit of the doubt. sorry. Look they took a shot with JZ to try and find the next diamond in the rough. He was a lump of coal. They gave him time to get something going. He wouldn't change. Bashing for bringing in a consultant is idiotic. Teams do it all the time. Hell the Colts re-hired two coaches who retired as consultants this year, yeah it was politics but whatever. Look everyone HATES where we are this season, but the Pure hatred/angst against Snyder is ridiculous. People would have been Lambasting JKC when Pardee was our coach, and switched to Gibbs who went 0-5. Don't say they wouldn't, I was only a teen but I remember the Post articles and JG having to go to Theismann to save his job. Losing is crappy. I hate it. But the FO is trying to stay within football parameters of in-season staffing changes. If they fired Zorn, people would be calling foul on Snyder, if they did nothing people would be calling foul, etc etc.

I just want to see this team win like everyone else, but I still will remain hopeful as they try to find the right in-season solution.

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My biggest issue is that we don't know that Sherm can call it any better than Zorn, it's not like he's very well known for it. I would've preferred it went to Sherman Smith, at least he's been here for awhile and helps come up with the gameplan

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Well Lewis has a lot of experience in the WCO but his track record for playcalling isn't very good. Compared to Zorn though, it might be great and we get more production.... or we might find that playcalling hasn't been the problem, it's the players. It's probably a little of both. Either way it should be interesting. Since we really have no control in what we do we might as well hope for the best. Zorn's playcalling has been criticized repeatedly, so if that is the problem, maybe mixing things up can help. If things go further south, I can't see Vinny getting out of this unscathed since most of these changes seem to be his decisions. I think they saw the kind of man they wanted to lead this team in Zorn, but they don't know how to handle the adversity now that things haven't gone as planned. The way I see it, either things work out, which would be great, or Vinny ends up looking desperate and incompetent which should lead to change and that wouldn't suck either.

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Covering it on espn they showed a lot of the mistakes, lack of execution, and were like "oh yeah, that's zorn's fault too" "ooo fumble, zorn's fault" .. then after bringing collins in "oh yeah, campbell was the issue.." etc

we do rank number 1 in fumbles though and zorn needs to make sure that's fixed immediately, no excuse for all of them, especially just on shotgun snaps

went on to mention vinny brought zorn in, most of the personnel decisions are on him, etc

stuff that we all knew and have mentioned for awhile, but have passed by on the news, but now they're actually giving us significant airtime, I guess that's a good thing

won't hear anybody saying that there's a media bias now. and everyone finally has to admit that there hasn't really been

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;612088]Id rather playcalling go to the other Sherman. He has no experience either, but atleast he's more familar with the offense. The main thing (other than just plain sucking at pretty much everything he was hired to do) is Zorn was being pulled in too many directions.[/quote]

What offense bro? Is that would we have been doing for the last 6 games. I thought offenses were suppose to score points. We dont have a offense lets hope Sherman Lewis can game plan better than Zorn.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;612165]Yep, the last call he made was "B-27".[/quote]

Well if he goes out their and we score of 21 points what the hell would that make Zorn look like? I tell you it would make Zorn look like this:confused-

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[quote=GusFrerotte;612186]Playcalling might be better, but it all boils down to execution. Zorn might not be a good play caller, but still the players should be able to execute them no matter what is called.[/quote]

I think the Players dont even believe when Zorn calls a that it will work. They had to make a change because Zorn runs the offense and it has gotten worse every game.

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[quote=tryfuhl;612494]My biggest issue is that we don't know that Sherm can call it any better than Zorn, it's not like he's very well known for it. I would've preferred it went to Sherman Smith, at least he's been here for awhile and helps come up with the gameplan[/quote]

The FO wants to give the play calling over to a coach that has playing experience. Sherman Lewis does and Sherman Smith doesn't. Zorn has lost the confidence of his offense players in my mind. Its time to try a new approach so why not let Sherman Lewis get a shot at it? Zorn is gone either in the season or the end of the season. I think they need to let Blache or Gray take over for the rest of the season and let Zorn go now.

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[quote=GridIron26;612419]Here's real insight of Lewis' history.. Doesn't look real good..

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/19/AR2009101903354.html]washingtonpost.com[/url][/quote]


Thank you! I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until we see how he does on Monday night, but I don't see at all any serious reason for optimism. He basically had the job of Sherman Smith- title of OC, but didn't do shit for all those years.

Our FO is absolutely the worst. I Like Zorn, but I'm glad he's sucking if the rumors are true that Vinny's fate is tied to Zorn's.

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[quote=skins89moss;612512]I think the Players dont even believe when Zorn calls a that it will work. They had to make a change because Zorn runs the offense and it has gotten worse every game.[/quote]

exactly, and execution suffers when players think they are playing for wile E coyote super genius.

This will be a good thing. Possibly a REALLY good thing

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Lewis is old. Not saying that old dude's cant hack it. But he's been out of football for quite some time hasn't he? I heard some of the team hadn't even met him yet.. Can't say that bodes well for the Monday night's game..

Re: Reputation of Sherman Lewis- our new play caller
 

Again, another band-aid that Snyder and Cerrato are putting on a severed leg. There is no reason to make this move unless you are looking to remove Zorn at some point during the year.

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Monday night's game cannot come fast enough for me. As improbable as it may be, it will be real interesting to hear what's going to be said if Lewis dials up a game with the highest scoring out-put so far this season. Matters less if he's old, decrepit, or crazy if he can call a winning formula. The payers don't have to know his name or what he looks like, just "execute" the plays called.

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Will Sherman Lewis be calling plays from Jim Zorn's playbook? What difference will Lewis's calls make if the plays were drawn up and designed by Zorn?

Re: Reputation of Sherman Lewis- our new play caller
 

[quote=GridIron26;612419]Here's real insight of Lewis' history.. Doesn't look real good..

[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/19/AR2009101903354.html"]washingtonpost.com[/URL][/quote]

And just to reiterate points covered in that story, here is my favorite quotation from Reid's RI blog: "The plan is for Lewis, who will sit in the press box, to give the calls to Zorn, who will remain on the sideline and relay the information to Campbell or Collins. But Lewis performed poorly when he was permitted to call plays previously in his career, league sources said, and is [b]unfamiliar with the Redskins' offensive terminology, personnel, running game and pass-protection schemes.[/b]" What a cluster f. Besides all of the obvious problems, what are the odds on the number of time outs the team will have to call because plays are slow getting in to the QB? Game management and efficiency wasn't exactly the strong suit of this team even when Zorn was calling the plays himself.

Re: Reputation of Sherman Lewis- our new play caller
 

[quote=Longtimefan;612700]Monday night's game cannot come fast enough for me. As improbable as it may be, it will be real interesting to hear what's going to be said if Lewis dials up a game with the highest scoring out-put so far this season. Matters less if he's old, decrepit, or crazy if he can call a winning formula. The payers don't have to know his name or what he looks like, just "execute" the plays called.[/quote]

So you are asking, what happens if the team explodes offensively and puts up 18 points?

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[quote=Beemnseven;612716]Will Sherman Lewis be calling plays from Jim Zorn's playbook? What difference will Lewis's calls make if the plays were drawn up and designed by Zorn?[/quote]

It's about using the right plays at the right time. If Zorn really is scripting plays to the point where he cant react to the way the defense is playing us maybe Lewis getting a chance to call what he wants when he wants might make a difference. Not saying it will make a difference but that's the difference.

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[quote=SmootSmack;612449]I guess I'll ask the same question here that I asked in another thread. What is so true now that we didn't know two weeks ago?[/quote]

im not skinny t but im guessin that the truth is:
1)after the lions game the DS wanted to fire zorn, vinny told him if you fire zorn you have no one that can call plays,
2) the next week, snyderatto bring in sherm lewis so that he can get familiar with skins for a few weeks and when he fires zorn there is someone who has called plays before
3) after the chiefs game snyderatto tries to embarrass zorn into quiting by "strongly suggesting" that he hand over play call duties to sherm lewis,
4) zorn not quiting before the eagles game is no biggie for snyderatto b/c the bye week is coming up, in which time they can fire zorn and allow sherm lewis 2 weeks to get up to speed as the Washington redskins head coach.

(as a side benefit, maybe one of the big name coaches might actually listen to snyderatto's sales pitch mid-season since sherm lewis is an interim coach and not a tenured coach coming into the season like zorn was. i do believe coaches, employed or unemployed, have a type of gentelmens agreement/quasi union pack where they wont go behind and usurp another HC while he is still employed. look at gruden and shanahan's responses and comments.

usurping an interim coach whom the FO has no intention of keeping past this season isnt as egregious of a violation to their coach gentlemens code as it would be if zorn is still the HC)

so business as usual for the skins.

i also think skinny was implying that the smearing campaign of snyderatto on their coaches (marty, gregg williams and now the public humiliation of zorn) hurts their chances of hiring a big time coach.

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[quote=over the mountain;612733]im not skinny t but im guessin that the truth is:
1)after the lions game the DS wanted to fire zorn, vinny told him if you fire zorn you have no one that can call plays,
2) the next week, snyderatto bring in sherm lewis so that he can get familiar with skins for a few weeks and when he fires zorn there is someone who has called plays before
3) after the chiefs game snyderatto tries to embarrass zorn into quiting by "strongly suggesting" that he hand over play call duties to sherm lewis,
4) zorn not quiting before the eagles game is no biggie for snyderatto b/c the bye week is coming up, in which time they can fire zorn and allow sherm lewis 2 weeks to get up to speed as the Washington redskins head coach.

(as a side benefit, maybe one of the big name coaches might actually listen to snyderatto's sales pitch mid-season since sherm lewis is an interim coach and not a tenured coach coming into the season like zorn was. i do believe coaches, employed or unemployed, have a type of gentelmens agreement/quasi union pack where they wont go behind and usurp another HC while he is still employed. look at gruden and shanahan's responses and comments.

usurping an interim coach whom the FO has no intention of keeping past this season isnt as egregious of a violation to their coach gentlemens code as it would be if zorn is still the HC)

so business as usual for the skins.

i also think skinny was implying that the smearing campaign of snyderatto on their coaches (marty, gregg williams and now the public humiliation of zorn) hurts their chances of hiring a big time coach.[/quote]

Thanks for the reply. I thought Skinny was talking more about the rumors of the Redskins reaching out to Shanahan, which is something that was reported earlier this month. The only difference now is that a "source inside the Redskins organization" confirmed it this time, whereas no one did before. But that's par for the course with these things. It's really not new news, in my opinion.

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lol he probably was. SS i got a question and you probably know the answer or could come up with a knowledgable opinion:

does the skins firing of zorn (when it happens) and the naming of an old guy like sherm as the interim coach now open the possibilities that a guy like gruden or shanahan will talk with the skins FO re. coaching the skins next year during this season?

whereas, if zorn was still the HC (like he is now), gruden and shanahan wont comment or honestly enter into talks with the skins FO like they are currently distancing themselves?

go skins!!

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;612724]So you are asking, what happens if the team explodes offensively and puts up 18 points?[/quote]

Considering the way things have been going 18 points would be a highlight reel.

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;612724]So you are asking, what happens if the team explodes offensively and puts up 18 points?[/quote]Sounds good to me.

Redskins 18
Eagles 11

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[quote=GreekSkin;612730][B]It's about using the right plays at the right time.[/B] If Zorn really is scripting plays to the point where he cant react to the way the defense is playing us maybe Lewis getting a chance to call what he wants when he wants might make a difference. Not saying it will make a difference but that's the difference.[/quote]

I think there is many factors involved. We have heard that Zorn whole game plan sucks, He calls the most idiotic plays and for the first 8 weeks of last yr DC's did not believe he would call the plays called so they weren't ready for it ...now we hear the DC's are game planning around what stupid call he might call in any given situation that no other coach would call and for the most part are stopping us. We have heard he is sending in the wrong plays at the wrong time, and lately he's sending in the wrong plays with the wrong package of people on the field.

Yes it's about calling the right plays at the right time, which he has a hard time doing, but it's also about knowing what personell is on the field and calling the right play for the package on the field. Can't call package designed for Portis who is now running off the field for his one yrd run breather and try to have Betts run the play. Won't work. Part of the reason why I liked Gibbs system. Take any player out and put in any second string player and the play should still work.

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;612717]Besides all of the obvious problems, [B]what are the odds on the number of time outs the team will have to call because plays are slow getting in to the QB?[/B] Game management and efficiency wasn't exactly the strong suit of this team even when Zorn was calling the plays himself.[/quote]5.5

I have the over.

Of course, on the other side, you have Donovan McNabb, so his over/under is 6.5.

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[quote=over the mountain;612759]lol he probably was. SS i got a question and you probably know the answer or could come up with a knowledgable opinion:

does the skins firing of zorn (when it happens) and the naming of an old guy like sherm as the interim coach now open the possibilities that a guy like gruden or shanahan will talk with the skins FO re. coaching the skins next year during this season?

whereas, if zorn was still the HC (like he is now), gruden and shanahan wont comment or honestly enter into talks with the skins FO like they are currently distancing themselves?

go skins!![/quote]

I think this is part of the problem. I do think many coach's have a gentlemans agreement about not talking to an owner about a job that is already taken. Even if the HC of the team is doing poorly.

Now, rumor has it Gruden has spoken to someone off record and not associated with the Skins about how he might like the job with the Skins.

If I was DS I would fire VC or completely remove him from having anything to do with the Skins as of today. Do a search of available candidates and candidates who are currently with other teams if available. Like Poilin or whoever. If I had to wait till seasons end to conduct certain interviews then so be it and bring in the best I could and pay him well. Give the GM some ideas as to who you might like as HC but make sure everyone and all candidates know I am backing the F-off. Allowing the GM to run the team.

With that said it might, might open up a few doors into coach's that have been hesitant to come to Washington.

Hopefully after Mon. night, which I can't wait for, VC and Zorn get canned and DS can start talking to viable candidates. but I wouldn't bring them in till seasons end. My feeling is you bring them in now and people/fans get a misconception and expect the team to start winning. If they don't I could see fans wishing DS to fire the new HC. I'd name an interim HC and keep conducting interviews until seasons end with my new GM.

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[quote=over the mountain;612759]lol he probably was. SS i got a question and you probably know the answer or could come up with a knowledgable opinion:

does the skins firing of zorn (when it happens) and the naming of an old guy like sherm as the interim coach now open the possibilities that a guy like gruden or shanahan will talk with the skins FO re. coaching the skins next year during this season?

whereas, if zorn was still the HC (like he is now), gruden and shanahan wont comment or honestly enter into talks with the skins FO like they are currently distancing themselves?

go skins!![/quote]

Well no matter who is the coach (interim or not), I don't think any coach would speak publicly about it. But Shanahan and the Redskins have definitely been talking (at least through intermediaries) and I'm sure discussions will continue in the off-season. But Shanahan is being smart about it. Dallas and San Diego could both be options for him this off-season, so he's got some options to leverage against each other I hope he goes to San Diego and Norv goes to Dallas. That way we don't get stuck with GM Mike Shanahan and the Cowboys get stuck with Norv.

Gruden, to my knowledge, hasn't really given much thought specifically to the Redskins. He certainly wants to coach again, but he's loving what he's doing right now. And he's young enough that he could take another year off and wait for the right opportunity. And seeing how tight Gruden and Bruce Allen seem to be, I suspect they would look to go together somewhere. Or so it appears right now. Then again, Allen has been rumored to the Bills. But I'd be surprised to see the Bills pay for Gruden as well

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I did not know that both Allen, and Gruden have two more years Full boat $$$$ coming from the Buc's

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Sherm Lewis replacing Zorn = Robiskie replacing Norv....we all thought it couldn't get worse but it did....much worse. This Monday night is going to be embarassing.

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For as much as the media is (probably justified) shredding this move and is saying 'just fire Zorn already' in reality, this move probably saved Zorn's job for the remainder of the season. It doesn't make sense for him to be demoted just to be fired a week later. If they don't make a move at the bye, there's no other time during the year to make it. I wouldn't say I'd be surprised if it happens but it wouldn't really be necessary at that point.

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[quote=Paintrain;612803]For as much as the media is (probably justified) shredding this move and is saying 'just fire Zorn already' in reality, this move probably saved Zorn's job for the remainder of the season.[B] It doesn't make sense for him to be demoted just to be fired a week later.[/B] If they don't make a move at the bye, there's no other time during the year to make it. I wouldn't say I'd be surprised if it happens but it wouldn't really be necessary at that point.[/quote]No, it certainly doesn't, which means it's a pretty good bet to happen.

The course of action that this franchise has taken since the Detroit game will be a future business case in asset mismanagement. You couldn't have done it any more hilariously than they have over the past now.

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[quote=GTripp0012;613036]No, it certainly doesn't, which means it's a pretty good bet to happen.

[B]The course of action that this franchise has taken since the Detroit game will be a future business case in asset mismanagement. You couldn't have done it any more hilariously than they have over the past now.[/quote][/B]

Priceless...

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Look it doesn't seem as though Lewis was a great offensive mind as a playcaller, which I'm convinced is Zorn's biggest issue after being a terrible motivator/leader. But here's the positiive things that could happen:

1) Zorn should be able to spend more time w/ the QBs and that's obviously his proven strength.

2) Lewis could "surprise" the defenses he faces w/ his play-calling, something Zorn has failed to do past week 8 of last season.

3) If Lewis has a stronger sense of the offens's strengths and weakness, from his birdseye view, he may be able to adjust the gameplan effectively. I don't believe Zorn has been able to even begin adjusting accordingly. It always seemed like Zorn drew up a gameplan, which may have been perfect if everything goes according to plan, but as things got off track there wasn't effective adjustments made. Result: predictability, lots of grinding plays that play right into the defensive strengths.

I almost want to feel hopeful the offense will rebound a little w/ this change...guess we'll all find out together :)