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[quote=davy;636912]You're way off there.

I've been critical of Campbell, Portis and Landry.

I'm sure 90% of members have slagged off many more players than that.[/quote]

but you did call one of the best players on this team in the past decade one of the most over rated, please explain

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[quote=Dirtbag359;636829]I think he's, uh, you know, doing fine, you know. It's just a mental thing, that, you know, he's got to feel better mentally, you know, I think. And, you know, it just takes a little bit of a time. So yeah once Portis gets over the uh, mental, uh aspect of it he'll be back on the field.[/quote]

:laughing2

Nominated for post of the season LMAO

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[quote=Dirtbag359;636829]I think he's, uh, you know, doing fine, you know. It's just a mental thing, that, you know, he's got to feel better mentally, you know, I think. And, you know, it just takes a little bit of a time. So yeah once Portis gets over the uh, mental, uh aspect of it he'll be back on the field.[/quote]
hahaha nice one

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Sounds like a guy about to retire to me:

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-redskins-portis&prov=ap&type=lgns]Season over, future unclear, for Redskins' Portis - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

“I have to put the time into rehabbing and continuing to do what the doctors say, but at the same time, to have the opportunity to play for eight years and play and compete and not miss many games … if it’s my time and I look back today, I think I had a great career. No one wants to finish on an injury, but at the same time I enjoyed it and I would love to come back.”

“Do I think there will be change? I do,” Portis said. “And if I’m part of that change would I be sad and devastated? I won’t. I think I’m appreciative of everything Mr. Snyder and the Washington Redskins have done for me, the opportunities they gave me.

“I’m 28, man. I’m not going to be devastated: ‘Oh, man, football is over.’ I enjoyed it. I had fun doing it. I gave everything I had doing it. I did it to the best of my ability. The day that I sit down and I look back on my career I think I will enjoy the highlights. If I get to continue and I’m not in D.C. and I have to play for someone else, I will give it all I got there as well.”

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I just seriously doubt he's that injured. I've seen MASSIVE hits far worse than his and those players come back within 1-2 weeks. I am not sure about this, but someone missing what 8 or 9 weeks of the season due to a concussion has got to be extremely rare. He's on IR because he's been ineffective and we have far better options to run the ball. Since Portis has been out we have had a spark on offense. I like Portis, but we all pointed out that he seemed to have "lost a step"...he has a lot of miles on those legs, maybe it's time to part ways...especially with what we are paying him.

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[quote=jsarno;636953][B]I just seriously doubt he's that injured[/B]. I've seen MASSIVE hits far worse than his and those players come back within 1-2 weeks. I am not sure about this, but someone missing what 8 or 9 weeks of the season due to a concussion has got to be extremely rare. He's on IR because he's been ineffective and we have far better options to run the ball. Since Portis has been out we have had a spark on offense. I like Portis, but we all pointed out that he seemed to have "lost a step"...he has a lot of miles on those legs, maybe it's time to part ways...especially with what we are paying him.[/quote]

Come on - It sounded like his vision was blurry and he went to see a specialist. I trust him and I think he plays his heart out. I would NOT question his heart. Seeing plays on TV is different than playing the game.

Second, I still think we should not have ever traded for him in the first place. Would have loved to keep Bailey, a Hall-of-Famer, if he would have stayed. Colossal mistake, and we also gave up a 2nd (?) round pick. Portis was great, but (1) Shut-down corners are much harder to find. (2) RB's careers are much shorter (as we're seeing now).

I hope Portis is okay and wish him the best. But time for a new *young* RB in the draft (after offensive line).

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[quote=Dirtbag359;636829]I think he's, uh, you know, doing fine, you know. It's just a mental thing, that, you know, he's got to feel better mentally, you know, I think. And, you know, it just takes a little bit of a time. So yeah once Portis gets over the uh, mental, uh aspect of it he'll be back on the field.[/quote]


Answering in the form of a question....What is Vinny.

It is you right....Vinny?

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The hits just keep coming. I wonder if it was the doctor's would not clear him or that he did not want play this year. I think that it would be the later. I know that he is a good player when healthy, but my guess is that whoever the new coach will be, they aren't going to put up with it, but then again he is Dan's guy. If that is the care, you also know that Portis will be back to become the Redskins all time leading rusher. You know that Snyder wants Portis to break Riggo's record on so many levels. It is unfortunate that the Redskins have become a merchandise sales vehicle as opposed to a great franchise that it used to be.

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When the wheels fall off NFL running backs it is so ridiculously obvious.

Watching Portis this year was painful.

He was a great NFL player. His time is over. He is mega rich. Time to move on.

We can't afford to pay him three million for that type of performance next year let alone ten million.

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[quote=mcarey032;636965]The hits just keep coming. I wonder if it was the doctor's would not clear him or that he did not want play this year. I think that it would be the later. I know that he is a good player when healthy, but my guess is that whoever the new coach will be, they aren't going to put up with it, but then again he is Dan's guy. If that is the care, you also know that Portis will be back to become the Redskins all time leading rusher. You know that Snyder wants Portis to break Riggo's record on so many levels. It is unfortunate that the Redskins have become a merchandise sales vehicle as opposed to a great franchise that it used to be.[/quote]

excellent point..

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I don't read past page 2 of any thread. So if I repeat anything while trying to read the whole thing, I appologize...shit I forgot what I was gonna say.

Oh yeah, If CP wants to come back is a secondary role just to surpass John Riggins and retire from the team, then I would be all for it. The dude has been a warrior and I appreciate that...SB or not.


And this is why you shouldn't drink and post my friends.

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[quote=ethat001;636956]Come on - It sounded like his vision was blurry and he went to see a specialist. I trust him and I think he plays his heart out. I would NOT question his heart. Seeing plays on TV is different than playing the game.

[B]Second, I still think we should not have ever traded for him in the first place. Would have loved to keep Bailey, a Hall-of-Famer, if he would have stayed. Colossal mistake, and we also gave up a 2nd (?) round pick. Portis was great, but (1) Shut-down corners are much harder to find. (2) RB's careers are much shorter (as we're seeing now).[/B]

I hope Portis is okay and wish him the best. But time for a new *young* RB in the draft (after offensive line).[/quote]

I don't share this opinion, but I suppose I can understand the sentiment. The problem is, Champ wasn't going to return to Washington, he didn't want to be here. He said as much pretty often during that offseason and into the next season. Also, the 2nd round pick ended up being Tatum Bell, so let's not get too bent out of shape.

About the larger topic: I'll be sad if Clinton Portis is forced to retire. I've always liked the guy and enjoyed watching him run the football for this team. I'm bothered by people questioning his toughness. He's shown us nothing other than his willingness to compete and lay it all on the line on Sundays. People say, "he threw his teammates/coach under the bus," well, you know what, maybe the guy wanted to win. I didn't care for it when he did it, but it turned out he was probably correct about what he was saying.

Yeah, the guy was a diva, but he always brought it on Sundays. He was pretty much the only reason this team made the playoffs in 2005 and 2007. He put the Skins on his back and he took them there.

Tom Jackson made a very accurate statement earlier in the season when he said, "You see it all the time...running backs get to a certain age and we see them start to age in dog years." At the time he was referring to Ladanian Tomlinson, but I think the same could be said for Clinton Portis. He looked like his skills may have fallen off of the cliff this year. I believe he'd still be able to show flashes of brilliance, but he'll never be the guy he was in Denver or the guy he was in 05 or 07. For that, I believe the Skins should let him go and, if he wants to continue playing, he should do so elsewhere. He's earned the right to not be benched in Washington, IMO.

That said, I hope he walks away. I would really like to see him retire as a Redskin and I would like to think that he'd consider his health before a paycheck. He should have plenty of money, anyway and, from what he's said in some of these articles, I believe he will retire rather than risk further injury.

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Man look, let Portis compete in training camp next year for the starting spot. I think he would win. I believe in him and think he had an off year and has atleast two or three more 1400 yard seasons in him. Emmitt Smith lost some of his explosiveness, but still played 7 more years.

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In this "what have you done for me lately" age of football, it never ceases' to amaze me how some people can so easily discredit and verbally humiliate players that have for the most part, done good things for the team. Players that when things are going well receive posivite vibes, when things go awry the tide turns.

I have always had issues with Portis, from his practice habits to his lack of pre-season participitation and controversial issues as well. Aside from those things, when it was time to play and he was on the field, he always gave his best effort and that's all you can ask of any player.

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I never, ever, had an issue with Portis as far as the athlete is concerned. I will say from 2004-2006 he gave us everything he had. The 2006 season when he was put on IR changed him i think. He became bitter and started sitting out practices. 2008 we really saw him hit the wall physically, and he was on the downhill. People didn't want to admit it. This year, 2009, Portis had absolutley NOTHING left...he played hard and with heart, but his body is broken down after so much abuse and injuries.

His attitude was always an issue here. It was well documented in news articles that Moss was the only player who consistantly had his back. He lost alot of fans when he threw Zorn under the bus last year along with everyone else. He lost player support this year when he mouthed off to Sellars after talking about him behind his back for weeks.

Sure Portis wants to win, blah blah blah....but it's no excuse to take it out on others. I would bet anything Portis, with his gigantic ego, cares more about getting Riggo's record, than any team success. I am not alone in that belief.

That said. Good luck to Portis and his future. I think he will find few suitors in the NFL to give him the money he's used to, plus not make him work out or practice. I dare say his career could go the way of Shaun Alexander's (how ironic, since Portis was so jealous of him)...Best Wishes

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[quote=SolidSnake84;636992]I never, ever, had an issue with Portis as far as the athlete is concerned. I will say from 2004-2006 he gave us everything he had. The 2006 season when he was put on IR changed him i think. He became bitter and started sitting out practices. 2008 we really saw him hit the wall physically, and he was on the downhill. People didn't want to admit it. This year, 2009, Portis had absolutley NOTHING left...he played hard and with heart, but his body is broken down after so much abuse and injuries.

His attitude was always an issue here. It was well documented in news articles that Moss was the only player who consistantly had his back. He lost alot of fans when he threw Zorn under the bus last year along with everyone else. He lost player support this year when he mouthed off to Sellars after talking about him behind his back for weeks.

Sure Portis wants to win, blah blah blah....but it's no excuse to take it out on others. I would bet anything Portis, with his gigantic ego, cares more about getting Riggo's record, than any team success. I am not alone in that belief.

That said. Good luck to Portis and his future. I think he will find few suitors in the NFL to give him the money he's used to, plus not make him work out or practice. I dare say his career could go the way of Shaun Alexander's (how ironic, [B]since Portis was so jealous of him[/B])...Best Wishes[/quote]
what the heck are you talking about?

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[quote=SolidSnake84;636992]I never, ever, had an issue with Portis as far as the athlete is concerned. I will say from 2004-2006 he gave us everything he had. The 2006 season when he was put on IR changed him i think. He became bitter and started sitting out practices. 2008 we really saw him hit the wall physically, and he was on the downhill. People didn't want to admit it. This year, 2009, Portis had absolutley NOTHING left...he played hard and with heart, but his body is broken down after so much abuse and injuries.

His attitude was always an issue here. It was well documented in news articles that Moss was the only player who consistantly had his back. He lost alot of fans when he threw Zorn under the bus last year along with everyone else. He lost player support this year when he mouthed off to Sellars after talking about him behind his back for weeks.

Sure Portis wants to win, blah blah blah....but it's no excuse to take it out on others. I would bet anything Portis, with his gigantic ego, cares more about getting Riggo's record, than any team success. I am not alone in that belief.

That said. Good luck to Portis and his future. I think he will find few suitors in the NFL to give him the money he's used to, plus not make him work out or practice. I dare say his career could go the way of Shaun Alexander's (how ironic, since Portis was so jealous of him)...Best Wishes[/quote]

It has always been difficult for most athletes in most sports to be able to admit to themselves the fact they don't have it any more. They hang on long after their productive years, some to the point of public embarassment because their mind and body are not in tune with one another.

If the Redskins are willing to continue paying Portis for his limited production and poor work habits, then I can't blame him for trying to stick around. It will be worth watching to see how the team intends to proceed with his case going foreward. Without a doubt there is probbably a better bang for the buck.

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[quote=dmek25;637004]what the heck are you talking about?[/quote]

Portis had known issues with Alexander. It was well publicised and documented. Infact, When Alexander ran onto the field last year because Portis had an equipment problem, Portis got very mouthy and kind of "pouted" about it.

This also led to when Portis "took himself out" of the game last year, which Zorn got angry about...which led to Portis telling Zorn to "Get the F out of my face". (covered by nearly all news outlets).

You seem to completley ignore issues of Portis' attitude or character. I am only reporting the facts on CP that most others on the board have experienced, or read about. Its kind of been hard to miss the waves that Portis has made here over the last few years...

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Portis is the ultimate Primodonna. Good riddance. Just another guy taking Snyder's checks to the bank. I want someone to break Riggins record. Just not Clinton Portis.

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Ok guys, I've figured it out. There is a huge conspiracy going on. It sounds like our DR. cleared him but he has to get an outside source per the NFL requesting 2 sources and one being not associated with the team.

Here's the conspiracy.......Portis went to NY to see a specialist. Think....think....we play our second game with NY within the next 4 weeks. Ta Da!

Just Kidding. Always gotta be looking for the conspiracy. :)

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[quote=SolidSnake84;636992]I never, ever, had an issue with Portis as far as the athlete is concerned. I will say from 2004-2006 he gave us everything he had. The 2006 season when he was put on IR changed him i think. He became bitter and started sitting out practices. 2008 we really saw him hit the wall physically, and he was on the downhill. People didn't want to admit it. This year, 2009, Portis had absolutley NOTHING left...he played hard and with heart, but his body is broken down after so much abuse and injuries.

His attitude was always an issue here. It was well documented in news articles that Moss was the only player who consistantly had his back. He lost alot of fans when he threw Zorn under the bus last year along with everyone else. He lost player support this year when he mouthed off to Sellars after talking about him behind his back for weeks.

Sure Portis wants to win, blah blah blah....but it's no excuse to take it out on others. I would bet anything Portis, with his gigantic ego, cares more about getting Riggo's record, than any team success. I am not alone in that belief.

That said. Good luck to Portis and his future. I think he will find few suitors in the NFL to give him the money he's used to, plus not make him work out or practice. I dare say his career could go the way of Shaun Alexander's (how ironic, since Portis was so jealous of him)...Best Wishes[/quote]

I'd say he probably got tired of being a blocking power back. He'd allude to that as well saying things like (paraphrased) "I don't get hurt running the ball, my injuries have come from blocking and tackling guys on turnovers, if they want me to be healthier they can have me stop doing those things"

I think that it says a lot how well he worked out for us considering the type of switch that he had to do and that he still went and gave it 100% on his blocks. The question is how much longer can he work out for us? I don't think that we cut him unless we see in preseason that he can't do it.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;636989]Man look, let Portis compete in training camp next year for the starting spot. I think he would win. I believe in him and think he had an off year and has atleast two or three more 1400 yard seasons in him. Emmitt Smith lost some of his explosiveness, but still played 7 more years.[/quote]

Fact: Portis hates preseason. However this is the time for players to get back into football shape, learn the plays, and build cohesiveness with teamates. Portis belives it's over rated.

Fact: It takes 2-4 games before Portis is even playing at the level he should be playing at. Mostly due to his lack of preseason playing time.

Fact: Portis is getting older. As well as Betts and Rock. All, if they had it, are losing their elusiveness.

Fact: Portis doesn't like something he runs to Daddy Snyder and all is made well. Not something you want from a team player.

Fact: He's had his injuries mostly in these last few years. Which is a part of getting old.

Fact: Some idiot gave him a huge player friendly contract. If there is no CAP this year coming up we would be wise to get rid of his contract. As well with all the others...ie; Samuels.

Fact: He has not run the same the last 3 years. Originally he was a shifty RB. Brought in and asked to gain weight by Gibbs to become his power back. To only decide after Gibbs he wanted to lose the weight to try and get back to his elusiveness, which has not worked out for him. He's a better power between the tackles type of runner. Now with his concussion he might not even be worth keeping for that roll cause they take some hits in the trenches.

Fact: He should simply find a way to cut bait and turn to being a media guys somewhere. ESPN, NFL network, maybe Reskins Nation especially since I don't watch that anymore he might bring people back to watching the show if he simply did interviews with players on the field or in the locker room or while working out.

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"It's really an honor," said Portis, who leads the NFL this year with 643 yards. "You get a league MVP, a guy who's had success and touchdown records and everything else. I want to know how you get 28 touchdowns [in a season], so who better to ask than Shaun? He did it."

[url=http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawks/2008272102_nfl16.html]Seahawks | NFL | Shaun Alexander joins ex-Hawk contingent | Seattle Times Newspaper[/url]

[url=http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/75552]Redskins' Zorn reprimands Portis | Truth & Rumors | FanNation[/url]

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[quote=mlmdub130;636917]but you did call one of the best players on this team in the past decade one of the most over rated, please explain[/quote]

Portis and I.

I was very excited when I heard we had signed Portis, I'd seen the Denver highlight reels and read the glowing appraisals.

However, it wasn't very long before I realised that he wasn't all I'd expected. As a running back he was very limited in what he could do.

He was a 'through the hole, one cut' type of back that was ideally suited to the Denver system. Obviously he was very good at pass protection as well.

He didn't have a lot of moves, he wasn't elusive in the open, he didn't have great speed, he didn't break a lot of tackles or run over people, as a pass catcher he was ordinary at best and in short yardage situations he was poor.

He was also a whiner. I think it was his 3rd or 4th game here when he started, complaining that the Browns defence knew what plays were coming before the snap and I've lost count of the numerous other things he's seen fit to bellyache about since then, and these are just the ones where he has gone public, how much more whinging did he do behind closed doors?

Ironically, if he had stayed in Denver I think he could have broken all sorts of records and be destined for the HOF. As it is I will remember him as just another running back.

Having said all that I do wish him a full recovery from his current problem and I hope he can find something fulfilling to do with the rest of his life should he decide to retire.

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Hey Smoot thanks for posting the articles.

I remember when Portis seemed all happy about Shaun Being here. But it was like his attitude quickly changed.

The second article was a good read. But with all the coverage of that incident, and even Larry Michael talking about it, maybe we all misinterpreted it. But i sure saw the words "Get the F out of my face" on TV. My father in law saw the same thing....

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[quote=OApartyrock;637026]Portis is the ultimate Pre-Madonna. Good riddance. Just another guy taking Snyder's checks to the bank. I want someone to break Riggins record. Just not Clinton Portis.[/quote]
so he's marilyn? ;)

prima donna*

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[quote=SBXVII;637027]Ok guys, I've figured it out. There is a huge conspiracy going on. It sounds like our DR. cleared him but he has to get an outside source per the NFL requesting 2 sources and one being not associated with the team.

Here's the conspiracy.......Portis went to NY to see a specialist. Think....think....we play our second game with NY within the next 4 weeks. Ta Da!

Just Kidding. Always gotta be looking for the conspiracy. :)[/quote]
Pittsburgh wasn't it?

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[quote=davy;637043]Portis and I.

I was very excited when I heard we had signed Portis, I'd seen the Denver highlight reels and read the glowing appraisals.

However, it wasn't very long before I realised that he wasn't all I'd expected. As a running back he was very limited in what he could do.

He was a 'through the hole, one cut' type of back that was ideally suited to the Denver system. Obviously he was very good at pass protection as well.

He didn't have a lot of moves, he wasn't elusive in the open, he didn't have great speed, he didn't break a lot of tackles or run over people, as a pass catcher he was ordinary at best and in short yardage situations he was poor.

He was also a whiner. I think it was his 3rd or 4th game here when he started, complaining that the Browns defence knew what plays were coming before the snap and I've lost count of the numerous other things he's seen fit to bellyache about since then, and these are just the ones where he has gone public, how much more whinging did he do behind closed doors?

Ironically, if he had stayed in Denver I think he could have broken all sorts of records and be destined for the HOF. As it is I will remember him as just another running back.

Having said all that I do wish him a full recovery from his current problem and I hope he can find something fulfilling to do with the rest of his life should he decide to retire.[/quote]

that said he finished in the top ten every year (beside 06) in total yards for running backs finishing 8th 4th 6th and 4th respectfully, i still don't see how that is overrated. i see that as one of our best players in the recent past.

was he a diva, no question. did he get the job done, no f-ing question.

i would have loved to have kept champ, but he didn't want to stay and was gone regardless.

for anyone who says protis is a diva and doesn't have heart, and leave it all on the feild, go a head and take a look at the man's stats before you say that. is he done, most likely, would i like to see him back to compete in camp next year, you bet your ass i would. cause if there is one thing i'll say about portis when he has the burgandy and gold on he gives it his all.

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I agree with that post completley. I never, ever, questioned Portis' athletic ability. NO doubt in my mind he always gave 100%, even when his body was operating at only 40% capacity.

But he shouldnt come back next season if the injury is this serious. A 30 year old runningback with major mileage, big injury history, and coming off a potential career-ending concussion. Even Portis, who is madly in pursuit of his own stats, hopefully has enough common sense to not risk his future life and/or health just so he can pass Riggins' record and then retire.

Only way is if he would take a secondary role...but i doubt he'd ever do that.

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all i know about Portis is that when he takes the field, its 150%. i really don't give a damn about practice. we are talking about practice, right? im not sure why you guys care so much about practice. if he goes out, and tweeks a knee, missing a game, then what? he has been with the skins long enough to know whats expected of him. for a seasoned pro, whats the big deal?

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I'd agree with your statement 100% if the other backs would have came out and ran worse than Portis did (which would be hard to do)

But they didn't, because they practiced and had rhythym with the team, something Portis did not have this year at all. Practice makes you better, its a proven fact. In the NFL, even "Seasoned Pros" practice. Seriously...there are not many teams that would let you get by with refusing to practice. And did you seriously see the shape Portis was in this year? He looked paunchy in the media photos and even other people noticed how out of shape he was...I'm sure that didnt help him on the field any.

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[quote=dmek25;637067]all i know about Portis is that when he takes the field, its 150%. i really don't give a damn about practice. we are talking about practice, right? im not sure why you guys care so much about practice. if he goes out, and tweeks a knee, missing a game, then what? he has been with the skins long enough [B]to know whats expected of him[/B]. for a seasoned pro, whats the big deal?[/quote]

oh yeah, practice, CP, Allen Iverson & Plaxico. Those guys don't need practice!

the part I bolded says it all; Gibbs may have created this dysfunction by allowing CP to get away w/a lot. But Zorn & most any coach that wants to keep their job EXPECTS their players to practice! During practice, they perform such perfunctory tasks as game planning & conditioning.

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[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/portis-future-and-the-salary-c.html?wprss=redskinsinsider"]Redskins Insider - Portis' future and the salary cap[/URL]


Portis' future and the salary cap

Many in the league believe 2010 will be an uncapped year, but the current system and its rules still are in place. [B]If the Redskins released Clinton Portis before June 1 in 2010, they could face a cap hit of as much as $14.8 million[/B], according to league sources familiar with Portis's contract and the Redskins' cap situation.

Portis last renegotiated his contract in March 2008, receiving a signing bonus of almost $9.4 million. By the end of this season, Portis, under the terms of the renegotiated deal, will have been paid more than $2.35 million in salaries and bonuses in addition to his signing bonus. Most of Portis's 2010 base salary of almost $7.2 million is guaranteed, and he is also due roster and workout bonuses totaling about $507,000.

The Redskins also have "offset" language on the guaranteed portion of his contract. If Washington released Portis and he joined another team next season, the Redskins would receive a credit against his guarantee for any additional salary.

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[quote=Buster;637134][B]If the Redskins released Clinton Portis before June 1 in 2010, they could face a cap hit of as much as $14.8 million[/B], according to league sources familiar with Portis's contract and the Redskins' cap situation.[/quote]

This seems high to me. I have his 2009 release fee just under $14M but only $8.5M for 2010. His contract's been reworked and restructured a few times so my numbers could be off but still seems like a big discrepancy. I expect his 2010 release fee to be around $8-$10M.

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I'm not expert, but perhaps the key is the June 1, 2010 date and if Portis is cut after that, the cap hit is only 8.5MM?

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If we're lucky, Clinton "I don't make no mistakes" Portis has played his last football for the Redskins.

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[quote=ethat001;636956]Come on - It sounded like his vision was blurry and he went to see a specialist. I trust him and I think he plays his heart out. I would NOT question his heart. Seeing plays on TV is different than playing the game.

Second, I still think we should not have ever traded for him in the first place. Would have loved to keep Bailey, a Hall-of-Famer, if he would have stayed. Colossal mistake, and we also gave up a 2nd (?) round pick. Portis was great, but (1) Shut-down corners are much harder to find. (2) RB's careers are much shorter (as we're seeing now).

I hope Portis is okay and wish him the best. But time for a new *young* RB in the draft (after offensive line).[/quote]

First, while I do understand what supposedly occured with the doctors, no, I do not believe him. I think the skins made it clear they don't want him back, and he is now disheartened to the team and what's the point of coming back when the team isn't going anywhere? He gets paid regardless. Again, who do you know misses 8 weeks of the season with a concussion? It just doesn't happen. Some day we will be aware of what is REALLY happening cause we all know Portis is a big mouth.
Second, your second point is true, and a lot of us felt that way when it happened, but man that was a LOOOONG time ago and Portis did well for us for a while, he's just done now.

Re: Portis put on IR, done for '09
 

[quote=Trample the Elderly;637206]If we're lucky, Clinton "I don't make no mistakes" Portis has played his last football for the Redskins.[/quote]

+ 5

Agreed. Let's hope Clinton "i'm delusional about my own abilities" Portis will go on to bless some other franchise with his presence. But know this...whoever picks him up, the running game just got that much easier to defend against!

Re: Portis put on IR, done for '09
 

Our RB situation will be completely different next year. I see a Ganther, Portis, Ryan Mathews or Toby Gerhart combination.

Re: Portis put on IR, done for '09
 

[quote=diehardskin2982;637214]Our RB situation will be completely different next year. I see a Ganther, Portis, Ryan Mathews or Toby Gerhart combination.[/quote]

I'd honestly rather have Rock than Portis. Rock has more heart and less wear and tear. Gerhart would be the change of pace guy we've been looking for. I'd be cool with Ganther. It'd be nice to have situational backs instead of an all purpose back.