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SolidSnake84 12-17-2009 07:12 AM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
Isn't that what the Death Panels will do??

firstdown 12-17-2009 11:37 AM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
[quote=saden1;640677]Don't worry folks, ObamaCare's death panels will take care of these old sons of bitches.[/quote]

He can reduce both health ins. and car ins. using these death panels removing them from the risk pool.

jsarno 12-17-2009 12:21 PM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
I certainly agree with this thread. I was taught that driving was a privelage, not a right. Those that abuse those rights should be punished. Those that can't be safe, need to have their license taken away. You don't do what is best for that person, you do what is best for the population as a whole.
Someone else pointed out that it should not be the state's problem cause some elderly guy / girl killed someone due to wreckless driving. But why not put them in an elderly home, sell their car to help pay for it too? We need to do something with them when they can't drive anymore. I see a ton of old people that can't drive, but they haven't caused accidents...yet. They swerve in the lanes, turn randomly etc. This happens A LOT more than people think...just ask residents of Florida.
It's pretty obvious what we are doing is not working, so it's time to get creative and actually stop the incapable of driving. Taking away licenses / having new laws to test over 65/70 is only part of the answer. There are plenty that will still drive regardless of license. This causes a larger issue.

firstdown 12-17-2009 01:00 PM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
Back when I first opened my office I work with alot of used car lots to bind insurance over the phone for people who do not have ins. could get it and drive theri new car home. I was just amazed at some of the driving records a saw and the amount of people who had suspended lic. out buying a car. I was also amazed at how bad some of the drv. records were and the people still held a valid lic. We actually have a DMV issue in the US more then anything else. Its also politicaly tough to go after the eldery as they are a strong voting block.

Trample the Elderly 12-17-2009 01:25 PM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
[quote=Smooter;640781]While were at it, how about euthanasia for the elderly?[/quote]

That's what I'm talking about!

jsarno 12-17-2009 01:30 PM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
[quote=firstdown;641307]Back when I first opened my office I work with alot of used car lots to bind insurance over the phone for people who do not have ins. could get it and drive theri new car home. I was just amazed at some of the driving records a saw and the amount of people who had suspended lic. out buying a car. I was also amazed at how bad some of the drv. records were and the people still held a valid lic. We actually have a DMV issue in the US more then anything else. Its also politicaly tough to go after the eldery as they are a strong voting block.[/quote]

excellent points.
When I lived in NM, they said that approx 50% in southeast NM didn't have insurance. Don't see how that's possible, but this seems to be a common issue. If you're caught without insurance, you are given a fine...both issues do not have stiff enough penalties.

Daseal 12-18-2009 12:32 AM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
[quote]Its also politicaly tough to go after the eldery as they are a strong voting block.[/quote]

Firstdown, you hit the nail on the head. The AARP would shit a brick if this happened.

Smooter 12-18-2009 08:16 AM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
[quote=Trample the Elderly;641345]That's what I'm talking about![/quote]

Euthanasia can also be a punishment for bad elderly drivers. "Sorry sir but you have to many points on your record, we're gonna have to put you down."

tryfuhl 12-18-2009 02:51 PM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;640516]While we're at it how about more restrictions on drivers under 20? Seems that whenever I see someone on the road pulling a dick move, it's usually some kid who doesn't even look old enough to be driving.[/quote]
Agreed, many states are getting stricter on them.

But while we're at it let's restrict female real estate agents. In NoVA I can't even count the number of times some fat fake blonde chick putting on makeup while looking in the mirror, talking on her cellphone, flipping papers, etc would swerve almost into me changing lanes and speeding all in an SUV with ads to her agency were plastered all over the windows. 66 was ripe with this

tryfuhl 12-18-2009 02:55 PM

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[quote=firstdown;640684]If so thats a new law. Most people who get a DUI only have their Lic. sus. for a short time and can get a restricted lic to go to work and other thing like that. The only DMV requirment is taking the driver improvment course which is a joke and file an FR44 which use to be an SR22.[/quote]
VA updated mandatory sentencing for DUIs in early 2005 or 2006. There's a lot more involved in it than a restricted license, sr22/fr44, and a drivers improvement class.

SolidSnake84 12-18-2009 02:56 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;642020]Agreed, many states are getting stricter on them.

But while we're at it let's restrict female real estate agents. In NoVA I can't even count the number of times some fat fake blonde chick putting on makeup while looking in the mirror, talking on her cellphone, flipping papers, etc would swerve almost into me changing lanes and speeding all in an SUV with ads to her agency were plastered all over the windows. 66 was ripe with this[/quote]

True that dude....i used to work in Manassas and i saw this all the time. One time i called the number on one of those cars because i saw it sideswipe a burm on 66, and i told them that i was going to call the police...

Trample the Elderly 12-18-2009 02:57 PM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
[quote=Smooter;641749]Euthanasia can also be a punishment for bad elderly drivers. "Sorry sir but you have to many points on your record, we're gonna have to put you down."[/quote]

:laughing2

tryfuhl 12-18-2009 02:58 PM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
Taking away the licenses of older people would almost require them being cared for by others. They are a huge danger but not all of them have someone to run errands for them, plus they're stubborn and don't like to pretend that they can't drive anymore.

My grandma used to scare the hell out of me, she'd be looking out of the window and drift into the other lane all of the time.

tryfuhl 12-18-2009 03:00 PM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;642023]True that dude....i used to work in Manassas and i saw this all the time. One time i called the number on one of those cars because i saw it sideswipe a burm on 66, and i told them that i was going to call the police...[/quote]
hahah exactly

my commute from nokesville and manassas up 66 is what inspired that post

Trample the Elderly 12-18-2009 03:04 PM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
[quote=tryfuhl;642025]Taking away the licenses of older people would almost require them being cared for by others. They are a huge danger but not all of them have someone to run errands for them, plus they're stubborn and don't like to pretend that they can't drive anymore.

My grandma used to scare the hell out of me, she'd be looking out of the window and drift into the other lane all of the time.[/quote]

I can top that.

I knew a guy that drove while he rolled joints, drank beer, looked all over the place, and talked with his hands. He drove a car with a stick shift manual transmission in Oakland. Oh, but he would't use a cell phone. It wasn't Al Davis either.

firstdown 12-18-2009 03:31 PM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
I know a guy who got pulled by the cops while driving around a neighborhood late one night having sex.

SolidSnake84 12-18-2009 03:42 PM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
Well that Detroit Lions coach a couple of years ago got busted for driving naked....seriously wtf was he thinking???

Trample the Elderly 12-18-2009 03:52 PM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
[quote=firstdown;642062]I know a guy who got pulled by the cops while driving around a neighborhood late one night having sex.[/quote]

Who hasn't done that?

tryfuhl 12-18-2009 04:12 PM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
[quote=Trample the Elderly;642078]Who hasn't done that?[/quote]
guilty

mlmdub130 12-18-2009 08:40 PM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
[quote=tryfuhl;642026]hahah exactly

my commute from nokesville and manassas up 66 is what inspired that post[/quote]

f 66 i hate it there is always traffic no matter what time or day it is, but seriously the way the highways are around here with all the construction, i don't even feel comfortable driving on them at night, there is no way a 16 year old or a 80 year old should be driving on them

budw38 12-18-2009 09:06 PM

Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?
 
[quote=Trample the Elderly;642078]Who hasn't done that?[/quote]
Mrs Woods :)


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