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Methane is an estimated 20 times more harmful than CO2 [url=http://www.epa.gov/methane/sources.html]US EPA - Methane: Sources and Emissions[/url]. I think we should declare war on termites as they produce as much methane as we do CO2 . [url=http://www.jstor.org/pss/3967046]JSTOR: An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie[/url].

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;651423]One volcano puts up more shit into the atmosphere in one erruption than mankind has for the last 100.

[URL="http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/hazards/gas/index.php"]Volcanic Gases and Their Effects[/URL]

Scientist [I]speculate[/I] that many of the previous ice ages were brought on by volcanism.

Science has become politicized and politicians are greedy lying worms.

[URL="http://www.democracynow.org/2000/1/21/gore_attacked_over_ties_to_occidental"]Gore Attacked Over Ties to Occidental Oil for Environmental and Human Rights Violations[/URL]

I'm not saying we can't screw things up a little, but it's nothing compared to the big picture.[/quote] I hear that the " right wing " built volcano's ,orginally to defeat Germany and Japan . GB and DC fired them up again in 2001 to bring harm to the mammals they want to make exinct in the near future , giving us reason to ... drill baby drill :)

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[quote=hooskins;650744]"Cold" hard facts. I suppose they made this up too...

[IMG]http://rockstarearth.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/CO2TempChart1.144154731_std.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://forumpolitics.com/pics/ipcc-global-warming-chart.bmp[/IMG][/quote]
[url=http://moregrumbinescience.blogspot.com/2009/03/does-co2-correlate-with-temperature.html]More Grumbine Science: Does CO2 correlate with temperature?[/url] ...[url=http://global-warming.accuweather.com/]AccuWeather.com: Global Warming News, Science, Myths, Articles[/url] CO2 levels rise during warmer temps . We always have higher CO2 levels during the summer months .

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[quote=saden1;651521]LOL...are you even trying or are you just saying things that don't add up for the sake of saying them?

Oh and I am working on a yacht that will one day be parked on the coast of southern France.[/quote]

You know what I'm talking about Saden, so don't try to be cute. Your little routine doesn't fool anyone. Southern France, bah! I'd rather chill with my peeps.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;651648]You know what I'm talking about Saden, so don't try to be cute. Your little routine doesn't fool anyone. Southern France, bah! I'd rather chill with my peeps.
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I have no idea what you're talking about. Enlighten me. What purpose does your indulgence analogy serve exactly? Anyone with an inkling of smarts knows that the west wants to pollute and pay third world countries not to pollute so the west is free to continue to pollute. What "indulgences" is the west trying to sell the third world?

In the words of Neytiri "you're like a baby, making noise, don't know what to do...[s]tupid, ignorant like a child."

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I wouldn't sweat the global warming since there is a nearby star that could go Supernova at any moment and fry us all anyways:

[url=http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2795981/Supernova-may-wipe-out-the-Earth.html]Supernova may wipe out the Earth | The Sun |News[/url]

At any rate, it does seem a bit odd that the solution to Global Warming is somehow Global Socialism. What a coincidence. And it gained currency right after the failure of the Soviet experiment. Not a moment too soon.

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How odd...a scientic revelation about a star going Supernova is illuminated while dismissing another scientific revalation about the earth warming. The oddity of the thoughtless mind is truly fascinating, as is sensationalization of articles written in a tabloid newspaper.

If we can just hold on and not cook ourselves for [URL="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=supernova-star-too-close-for-comfor-2010-01"]ten million years[/URL] we maybe able to see T Pyxidis. No guarantee you'll die from the explosion though as the star will be further away by then and since it doesn't produce high energy radiation our ozone will be safe too.

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[quote=saden1;651710]How odd...a scientic revelation about a star going Supernova is illuminated while dismissing another scientific revalation about the earth warming. The oddity of the thoughtless mind is truly fascinating, as is sensationalization of articles written in a tabloid newspaper.

If we can just hold on and not cook ourselves for [URL="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=supernova-star-too-close-for-comfor-2010-01"]ten million years[/URL] we maybe able to see T Pyxidis. No guarantee you'll die from the explosion though as the star will be further away by then and since it doesn't produce high energy radiation our ozone will be safe too.[/quote]
Is France a ... western nation ...[url=http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2009/04/12/untold-stories-about-somalia-pirates-european-ships-dump-nuclear-waste-into-somalia-ocean/]Untold Stories about Somalia Pirates - European ships dump Nuclear Waste into Somalia Ocean | THE AUDACITY OF HYPOCRISY | Media Lies | ObamaLies.com | Exposing Mainstream Media Hypocrisy and Lies[/url]

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[quote=BringBackJoeT;651174]Well, maybe I still have some reading to do on this issue, but at least my current understanding is that referring to climatic developments as "global de-insulation" is inaccurate, and that referring to it as global "warming" is in fact the more appropriate label.

Scientists crediting the warming of the Earth to human activity describe it as follows. The sun radiates heat toward the Earth, and it is indeed the ozone layer in the atmosphere that prevents all of the heat being radiated from the sun from hitting the planet. For the heat that does reach the Earth, however, much of it is radiated back into the atmosphere toward space. However, the greenhouses gases in the atmosphere (carbon dioxide being a primary one) trap the heat being radiated back into space. These gases have existed in the atmosphere for millions of years, and they have effectively helped the planet maintain a temperature that has allowed life to form. But the inordinate amount of carbon dioxide being shot into the atmosphere by humans is intensifying the "trapping" character of the gases, which results in a level of warming that is higher that is generally experienced in natural climatic cycles.

So, basically, it is not a de-insulation, but rather an increased insulation.

That's at least how I've understood it. Feel free to enlighten me more.[/quote]

Sorry that it took me so long to get back. Your statements are true for the most part just incomplete. I probably could have picked a better word than De Insulation, but I was trying to keep it simple I am believe that it is hard to make someone understand that overinsulating something can cause a refrigeration type of effect. Being as under the influence as I was, it just seemed easier to explain as "deinsulating" rather than over insulating. I still believe that "Global Warming" is an incorrect term. then again it's a bunch of smart guys trying to keep it simple for the rest of us.

[quote]
[B]Colder Temperatures Increase Ozone Damage[/B]
Ozone depletion damage gets much worse when the stratosphere is very cold. This has been the case the past two years, causing extensive ozone depletion. This past winter, ozone depletion reached the most severe levels ever recorded over the Northern Hemisphere. Western United States ozone levels also continue to drop 3-4 percent per decade. Even if all of our efforts to stop harmful emissions are successful, the ozone layer is not expected to begin recovery until around 2020 at the earliest.
[B][B]Global Warming Can Increase Ozone Depletion[/B][/B]
Scientist's are concerned that continued global warming will accelerate ozone destruction and increase stratospheric ozone depletion. Ozone depletion gets worse when the stratosphere (where the ozone layer is), becomes colder. Because global warming traps heat in the troposphere, less heat reaches the stratosphere which will make it colder. Greenhouse gases act like a blanket for the troposphere and make the stratosphere colder. In other words, global warming can make ozone depletion much worse right when it is supposed to begin its recovery during the next century.

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[URL="http://www.ess-home.com/news/global-warming/ozone-depletion.asp"]Global Warming and Ozone Depletion[/URL]

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[URL="http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/globalwarming.html"]The Global Warming Scam[/URL] ... this from 1922 [url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/aug/14/inside-the-beltway-81073443/]Inside the Beltway - Washington Times[/url]

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[quote=firstdown;650678]I just got back from checking on my boat and its cold as he!! outside and its only going to get colder this week. Right now the temp is around 25 and my boat is surround by ice but I have its heater on so its nice and warm. Its so cold that the pelicans are dying and the fish are floating to the top of the water in parts of NC. I cannot remember the last time that we have had it this cold for this amount of time in VA. So hows your weather?[/quote]

Cold!! And the only one profiting from it is PEPCO, they love it. When I got last months electric bill I was like the man who bought his first Mercedes Benz and after a couple of months realized the impact the payments were having on the family budget. He said to his wife "Mercy-Deez-Payments Are Killing Me". Cold = Cost.

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[quote=Longtimefan;653305]Cold!! And the only one profiting from it is PEPCO, they love it. When I got last months electric bill I was like the man who bought his first Mercedes Benz and after a couple of months realized the impact the payments were having on the family budget. He said to his wife "Mercy-Deez-Payments Are Killing Me". Cold = Cost.[/quote]

When I first got married 10 years ago we lived in this old farm house right on the river. It had very little insulation and when the wind blew off the water we had to crank the heat. It had gas heat and we had one bill for like $500 and another over $600. It was a great place to live but we paid for that great view.

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Just thought I'd throw this in the mix (yes, it's Fox News).

[url=http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/11/years-global-cooling-coming-say-leading-scientists/]FOXNews.com - 30 Years of Global Cooling Are Coming, Leading Scientist Says[/url]

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;653395]Just thought I'd throw this in the mix (yes, it's Fox News).

[URL="http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/11/years-global-cooling-coming-say-leading-scientists/"]FOXNews.com - 30 Years of Global Cooling Are Coming, Leading Scientist Says[/URL][/quote]

That's a re-run from the 70s!

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Speaking of heating, what is it with these electrical companies saying they need to raise prices despite record profits? Dominion is really f-ing up my monthly bill recently.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;653412]Speaking of heating, what is it with these electrical companies saying they need to raise prices despite record profits? Dominion is really f-ing up my monthly bill recently.[/quote]

That's what happens when you have a monopoly. Eff VEPCO, Dominion, or whatever they'll call themselves in the future.

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[url=http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/11/cbsnews_investigates/main6084364.shtml?tag=contentBody;featuredPost-PE]Copenhagen Summit Turned Junket? - CBS News[/url] . Our politicians use 3) military jets , 2) 737's that tax payers provided them , these jets put out enough Co2 to fill 10,000 swiming pools .

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Of course you can trust the IPCC's conclusions.....

[url=http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/20/panels-glacier-disaster-claims-melting-away/]FOXNews.com - U.N. Panel's Glacier-Disaster Claims Melting Away[/url]

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;657098]Of course you can trust the IPCC's conclusions.....

[URL="http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/20/panels-glacier-disaster-claims-melting-away/"]FOXNews.com - U.N. Panel's Glacier-Disaster Claims Melting Away[/URL][/quote]

[quote]"They are indeed receding and the rate is cause for great concern," Ramesh said of the glaciers. But, he said, the IPCC's 2035 forecast was "not based on an iota of scientific evidence."[/quote]

Could they be using "tricks" to arrive at 2035 date? Let's hope they "un-recede" all on their own.

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The IPCC is so biased in its science as to be useless. This is not the first time they have issued non-vetted, altered papers or papers with important materials deleted. Any claim they make is suspect.

Mind you, many of the reporrts and "think tanks" critiquing IPCC work are equally suspect. The science of global warming is so politicized as to be practically useless. You can pretty much find credible scientists to support any view you want to believe.

It seems to me that most credible scientists agree that the earth is warming but that there is simply no way to be sure that it is the result of human activity.

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As for the retreating glaciers:

"Syed Iqbal Hasnain, the Indian scientist under fire for saying Himalayan glaciers may disappear by 2035, denied making the assertion that was published in the United Nations’ most comprehensive report on climate change.

The UN included the date in its 2007 assessment of global warming, citing a study by the environmental group WWF, which referenced a 1999 article in New Scientist magazine that quoted Hasnain. 'I have not given any date or year on the likely disappearance of Himalayan glaciers,' the scientist said.

'I had simply told the New Scientist in an interview that the mass of the glaciers will decline in 40 years,' Hasnain said in a telephone interview. [B]'The date, 2035, [I]was their invention[/I]. I was misquoted in the report.[/B]'”

[url=http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=ajiFW9FVzpQo]Melting Glaciers Scientist Blames Issue on Misquote (Update1) - Bloomberg.com[/url]

Surprise surprise.... IPCC making sh** up again.

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Funny how the left cannot figure out why so many question the scientist on global warming but they are so quick to dismiss these types of reports.

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Also funny how they can't predict the economy next month very well but know the weather report 1000 years from now.

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are we in this thing together? i see a lot of bitter people. you guys clinging to your guns, and your bible?

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[QUOTE="dmek25"]are we in this thing together? i see a lot of bitter people. you guys clinging to your guns, and your bible?[/QUOTE]

Not sure about the guns/bible comment, but yeah we are all in this together. Sadly what we're seeing here is just a microcosm of society in general. Everyone talks a good game when it comes to bipartisanship but it rarely works out that way.


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What I really hate is polarization, in terms of political parties.

If you are conservative you are a republican, and you vote and support them without thinking. All things any liberal says is stupid. And vice versa with Dems.

Its so freaking annoying. Why can't people think of issues independently, rather than letting a party dictate what is right and wrong? I guess its just easier not to think.

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I believe this guy.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnDxapBLNZk]YouTube - Satire Clip Will Ferrell SNL Clip[/url]

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[quote=dmek25;657308]are we in this thing together? i see a lot of bitter people. you guys clinging to your guns, and your bible?[/quote]

Yes we are in this together but why is it that if we are not sold on global warming we are the bad guys. Heck I have no problem with building some wind mills or using solar energy but while we are working on those things why not drill from our own resources? Why is it wrong for me to not want the US strapped with the burden of paying for most of what they want to pass to clean up something I'm not sure is man made? I'm not bitter, I don't own a gun, and I don't think we evn have a bible in the house. The only way I see the left happy on this is for us to all cave in and hand the UN our check books.

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[quote=firstdown;657347]Yes we are in this together but why is it that if we are not sold on global warming we are the bad guys. Heck I have no problem with building some wind mills or using solar energy but while we are working on those things why not drill from our own resources? Why is it wrong for me to not want the US strapped with the burden of paying for most of what they want to pass to clean up something I'm not sure is man made? I'm not bitter, I don't own a gun, and I don't think we evn have a bible in the house. The only way I see the left happy on this is for us to all cave in and hand the UN our check books.[/quote]
May god save your soul :) Well said first .

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[quote=Mattyk;657322]Not sure about the guns/bible comment, but yeah we are all in this together. Sadly what we're seeing here is just a microcosm of society in general. Everyone talks a good game when it comes to [U]bipartisanship[/U] but it rarely works out that way.


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It's not supposed to work. It was set up to take a long time for the government to change something. The Founding Fathers were suspicious that the politicians who would come after them would streamline wholesale change, or circumvent the Constitution, the Republic, and the Revolution.

Don't buy into the bipartisanship BS. When they all agree on something it's usually not in our best interest.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;657356]It's not supposed to work. It was set up to take a long time for the government to change something. The Founding Fathers were suspicious that the politicians who would come after them would streamline wholesale change, or circumvent the Constitution, the Republic, and the Revolution.

Don't buy into the bipartisanship BS. When they all agree on something it's usually not in our best interest.[/quote]
Our founding fathers were correct in their suspiciouns.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;657356]It's not supposed to work. It was set up to take a long time for the government to change something. The Founding Fathers were suspicious that the politicians who would come after them would streamline wholesale change, or circumvent the Constitution, the Republic, and the Revolution.

Don't buy into the bipartisanship BS. When they all agree on something it's usually not in our best interest.[/quote]

I definitely don't think we need to agree on everything all the time, that's dangerous in of itself. But I don't think the intent of the system was to bring policy making to a standstill either where both sides have lines drawn in the sand and generally oppose each other just for the sake of it.

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[quote=dmek25;657308]are we in this thing together? i see a lot of bitter people. you guys clinging to your [B]guns, and your bible?[/B][/quote]


nothing better to cling to then my gun and my bible.

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[quote=Mattyk;657368]I definitely don't think we need to agree on everything all the time, that's dangerous in of itself. But [B]I don't think the intent of the system was to bring policy making to a standstill[/B] either where both sides have lines drawn in the sand and generally oppose each other just for the sake of it.[/quote]

The last time they agreed on something we invaded Iraq.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;657371]The last time they agreed on something we invaded Iraq.[/quote]

Good point, like I said that sort of thing is definitely dangerous

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If we agreed on everything then every bill would pass. Nows that scary.

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i don't mean that. but disagreeing just because its the opposite party is just down right stupid. a lot of people took great joy in the Mass. win, but does anyone really know where the Rep. stands on the issues? if so, i skipped that post

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[quote=dmek25;657531]i don't mean that. but disagreeing just because its the opposite party is just down right stupid. a lot of people took great joy in the Mass. win, but does anyone really know where the Rep. stands on the issues? if so, i skipped that post[/quote]

He said his vote would be a no against Health Care Reform. I don't see how you missed it when it's been on EVERY single news channel and all over the net?

I was just thinking, can we tax the Earth for global warming?

[url=http://www.insidecostarica.com/dailynews/2010/january/21/costarica-10012101.htm]Inside Costa Rica - Costa Rica's Daily News[/url]

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he said he would vote no, which is his parties stance. did he give any reasons why?

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[quote=dmek25;657544]he said he would vote no, which is his parties stance. did he give any reasons why?[/quote]

If someone offered you a shit sandwich, would you feel it necessary to give an explanation for declining?