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Shanahan got rid of Portis after he posted 3000 yards rushing and 29 touchdowns. How on earth would he justify keeping him now? Financial reasons are the only thing I can think of.

Dump him.

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No! It's time to move on and we need to start getting rid of the core guys the last 5 years.

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No! This guy is turning into a locker room plague.

Make way for the TO wannabe train. Choo Choo!

And at least TO could still produce. Portis can take his diva-ass somewhere else. PEACE.

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Kubiak is (at least was) a big Portis fan. Maybe he'll take him off our hands.

Talent wise I think Portis is the best RB we have and is still the best blocking running back in the league...still better to get rid of him a year too soon than a year too late

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Give him one more season to see what he can do. He has given us some good seasons and deserves a shot when reunited with his old coach.

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bring him back,there is nobody out there that we can get that is better than him right now,plus his most successful years were with shanahan

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;652405]I voted no, especially on the firm assumption of an uncapped year. I think he may bring something to the team IF he lives up to Shanahan's criteria, but the upside is not equal to clearing out his contract when a cap comes back and what a young RB who gets schooled by Shanahan's crew could bring to the team.[/quote]

i agree but thats alot of money the DS would just have to shell out to CP (6-7 mil guar) to not be a part of this team ala b lloyd.

i vote no, shoot its not my money that i pissed away, eat it DS and move on.

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[quote=over the mountain;652443]i agree but thats alot of money the DS would just have to shell out to CP (6-7 mil guar) to not be a part of this team ala b lloyd.

i vote no, shoot its not my money that i pissed away, eat it DS and move on.[/quote]

The money tossed around is incredible, I mean DS is already eating 2.4 mill for JZ, I wonder what if any is owed to VC, so if another 6-7 is needed to get rid of CP, and that is what his executive vice presidents think needs to be done, than it's got to be a no questions asked deal on Snyder's part. This is one of those moves that should solely be MS/BA's call, and Snyder just needs to smile and move on, much like when Deion went good bye.

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[quote=over the mountain;652443]i agree but thats alot of money the DS would just have to shell out to CP (6-7 mil guar) to not be a part of this team ala b lloyd.

i vote no, shoot its not my money that i pissed away, eat it DS and move on.[/quote]

That's what he gets for running my franchise into the dirt.

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not the for the money he is making. He needs a pay cut and conditioning/ practice clause in his new contract. When in shape he's a top 5 back. He hasn't been in trully great shape since Gibbs left.

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He's got a lot of guaranteed money coming to him next year, so I don't see where he would have any incentive to take a cut. Unless you restructure him but that's not going to happen.

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I want he gone as soon as possible. The guy just don't have it anymore. Plus I and other Redskin fans are getting tired of his mouth. He's out stayed his welcome here.

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I think we can all come to the consensus that he is no longer the dominant back that he once was and we don't want him if a younger, cheaper RB can be slotted into Shanahan's system.

HOWEVER, for cap reasons, we have to keep him around for at least another year unless he agrees to restructure his contract.

Just food for thought...Portis is second on the Redskins all time rushing yards list and is a year removed from essentially a 1500 yard season...throwing him out to pasture despite his recent comments might be a little too hasty

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we played a very fine line with the cap by being creative and restructuring contracts for years. we have restructured contracts to portis, ARE, samuels, moss(?) and probably some others. one day all that future guaranteed money had to stack up. by the grace of something holy it looks like we get a cap-free, purge yourself of bad contracts season coming to us.

i honestly think the DS for the past year or 3 (def the AH contract) has planned for this uncapped year and made big moves with the thought in mind as to what kind of flexibility in that contract he would have come 2010. if he did, bless him its pretty savy imo but thats a costly "do over".

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If he can behave/work sure; if not, later.

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#1 there will be no CAP next year so next year will be the time to shed all big contracts. I even wonder if they will find a way to pay off the majority of AH's contract and rework whats left to a lower amount so it doesn't hurt our CAP in the future. (Portis)I don't think he has the work ethic Shanahan will expect or want from him.

#2 In Shanahan's system I think everyone knows by now that he can plug just about anyone in as a RB and get better results then most other teams. Most other teams must have an exceptional RB to get the job done, not Shanahan.

#3 I also hope we get away from the back loaded contracts in the future. Stop "restructuring" contracts so they are majorly back loaded.

Edit: Sorry I had to edit so people would know I was refering to Portis and not AH.

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Easy question. Dump Portis. He's too old for an RB (29yo next year), everyone hates him in the locker room, he doesn't practice, and runs his mouth. His comments against Jason Campbell were way off, and JC came back at him HARD. I loved to see that fight in JC, and I just felt sad for Portis. Once a loved yellow-haired icon, Portis has become a virus.

Portis has become worse than T.O. and we don't need that for $6 million or whatever he's due. Save money and headache. Betts can pick up his slack, and the guy off the street - Ganther -- could partially fill his shoes.

It's also a great way to get the locker room's attention.

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No. He is a locker room cancer.

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Well, I'm so tired of hearing Portis's mouth on ESPN980 (The John Thompson Show) and I'm ready for the third straight year to get rid of him. We (or rather Joe Gibbs) traded a first rate gentleman as well as a Hall of Fame CB (Champ Bailey) for a loud mouthed showoff. The Skins had a better running game without Portis this season. Cut ties with him and bring in somebody who wants to play.

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^ I agree with you however I'm on the youth movement kick. I know Betts has been a team player and Rock is a captian but I'd cut them also and either keep Ganther who played as good if not better, Alridge as our change of pace back, and let Shanahan pick up someone he thinks he needs for his system and see how all three play out. I'm guessing Ganther will supprise if Shanahan can get the OL fixed and up to speed with his blocking scheme.

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I've officially fallen off the Mason bandwagon also this last year but I wonder if he would look better in Shanahan's scheme.

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ask me this question after every year since he's been here and my answer is always 'no'...

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Wow...I know you guys are upset about his antics but not wanting him back is foolish. Who is going to get you that 1000 yards? Who are the defenses going to focus on?

Portis is still a baller people and you'll realize what you're missing if the Skins lose him.

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[quote=Lotus;652360]I wonder whether they really have patched things up or just removed the conflict from public view.[/quote]

I don't think Portis even intended to question Jason's leadership, he's just isn't very media savvy and isn't the most articulate dude.

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My vote is no. Although I agree almost 100% with everything he said about Jason Campbell's abilities and the weak "captains" we've had on our team, saying those things publicly was a huge mistake, and I think Jason Campbell still has the potential to be a leader and at leats already has the respect of most of his teammates . . . something Portis never even considered before he shot his mouth off.

I wish I could see a scenario where we land C.J. Spiller, but I don't see it happening. Everything is pointing towards Spiller going late in the first.

I now dust off my completely pulled-out-of-my-ass three-way trade scenario from last night:

I say we give Portis to the Browns in order for them to take Matt Cassel's contract, clearing space for KC to swap 1st round picks with us, letting them get Clausen and giving us their left tackle (who is actually a guard). Thus, we get a pro LG and draft Okung at LT with the 5th pick. We just solidified our blindside and dumped Portis, and each team is happy.

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Originally, I wanted them to keep Portis but I think it comes down to three important points.

His is overpaid.
He is devisive.
He is worn down if not broken down.

I love what he used to bring on Sunday but I think it is time to move on.

Now if he is the hardest working player in the offseason, then let him stay but I don't see it happening.

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[quote=Mattyk;652265]Even with CP back, I'm pretty sure we'll see a RB taken in the draft. Interesting to note that Shanahan was interested in trading for Betts a few years ago.[/quote]

Lagarett Blount!!! I take him in the 5th or 6th round, he was at onetime proceeded as a top 2nd rounder.. Shanny can get him straight.

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[quote=Nomad;652668]Lagarett Blount!!! I take him in the 5th or 6th round, he was at onetime proceeded as a top 2nd rounder.. [B][B]Shanny can get him straight.[/quote][/B][/B]

Yea look at Maurice Clarett's career

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saden, something new, we agree! until the skins get a running back that is better then Portis, he stays.

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I say keep him if he gets in shape and runs like he did in Denver or at least close to it..

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I would take Portis back but only if he restructures his current contract and take a pay cut to prove that he can be a top flight RB again. Put some incentives in the contract and let him earn his money. He would then refuse and we release him. Portis would do better on a team like the Pats where he would have to conform to the coaches and team leaders. I do think he has a few good years left to be productive.

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[quote=Nomad;652668]Lagarett Blount!!! I take him in the 5th or 6th round, he was at onetime proceeded as a top 2nd rounder.. Shanny can get him straight.[/quote]
Honestly he's a guy that if I talked to enough I'd be comfortable with. Had it been just the initial punch it'd make it easier, but the continued tirade was a bit too much. The guy that got punched more than deserved it. After coming back from the suspension it didn't seem like he did much though, despite having been practicing with the team the whole time.

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I haven't voted on this one because it is pretty tough.
Given good blocking, Portis is probably a 1300 yrd rusher...that is hard to replace.
I don't care what Denver did with a bunch of RBs...this is Washington and our line is completely different right now...so...if we cut him, we'd obviously have to replace him with someone not on the squad now...which means a trade for a player or a draft pick...but since his contract has a poison pill...that is not possible...so we either lose a really good player and the best RB blocker in the league for nothing or we keep him and tell him to keep his mouth shut.

Until we have linemen that can block like portis, we should probably keep him...screw the money...

Thinking as typing....maybe we could trade him for a starting lineman? and just pay Portis his bonus making him tradeable?

I am sure there are teams out there that have solid lines that need a consistent RB like Portis...at this point, I'd rather have a better line than Portis

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[quote=saden1;652631]Wow...I know you guys are upset about his antics but not wanting him back is foolish. Who is going to get you that 1000 yards? Who are the defenses going to focus on?

Portis is still a baller people and you'll realize what you're missing if the Skins lose him.[/quote]

I think that's the whole thing. People won't miss him. And he doesnt get 1000 yards....he didnt even get 500 yards this season. Injury or not, he was shot physically...it's over.

Portis is garbage as a player and as a person. He does nothing here except take up a roster spot and a lot of undeserved money...

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he really died once he got here, he had over 3000 yds rushing his first 2 years in denver, and over 30 td's, and to think a coach would willing give that up shows how much he cares for portis, i used to want him back but he will be gone next year

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Portis' stats as a Redskin (prior to this horrible season):

[B]2008[/B]- 342 carries_1,487 yards_4.3 ypc
[B]2007[/B]- 325 carries_1,262 yards_3.9 ypc
[B]2006[/B]- 127 carries_523 yards_4.1 ypc (std 7 gms: injured tackling after INT)
[B]2005[/B]- 352 carries_1,516 yards_4.3 yds
[B]2004[/B]- 343 carries_1,315 yards_3.8 yds

You don't throw away production like this from a guy with no off-field issues just casue he's an ass. You whip him into shape, get him motivated and get him on the field.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;652988]I think that's the whole thing. People won't miss him. And he doesnt get 1000 yards....he didnt even get 500 yards this season. Injury or not, he was shot physically...it's over.

Portis is garbage as a player and as a person. He does nothing here except take up a roster spot and a lot of undeserved money...[/quote]

So when exactly did CP sleep with your girlfriend? Or boyfriend...if you live in DC?

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You're defending him...i get that. and its cool.

But we have a new coach now and we are supposedly "rebuilding/reloading", so where does a guy like him fit in? He doesnt work out, doesnt practce, doesn't do OTA's or team meetings....so wtf is the point with him?

How do you get him motivated is a better question. Because his GUARANTEED Salary doesnt seem to do the trick.

And you don't see issues with his character?? 99% of America wanted Michael Vick to get a lifetime ban, but PORTIS defended Vick's action by saying what he did was "no big deal"...i dont care myself, but Portis admitted to dogfighting when he was growing up, so it not like he is a saint...no matter what you think

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No, don't want him back next season. Release him, let him go corrupt and divide another team's locker room. He's been aight for us, but he really only gives 100% when he wants to. When was the last time you saw him turn back inside and try to get extra yards instead of just scamper out of bounds....it's been a few years. Bring in a couple young guys who are hungry and willing to be team players. With a better O-line and a better system, we'll be fine.

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I voted no simply because of his production decline last year but I am curious to see him in Shanahan's system again. Also, the crap he pulled on Zorn he wouldn't DREAM of trying under Shanahan. If he's back, I'd anticipate he's going to be in top shape, be in attendance for 90%+ for OTA's and will be practicing on a regular basis. Plus his direct line to Snyder has been shut down by Shanahallen so that issue is moot.