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[quote=Zerohero;653879]Better then a qb who can't win the little or big games. It will never happen without giving up high picks. Without losing picks i would take it in a heartbeat. Maybe not his best statistical year but he had a great year save last two games.

Not to get too much offtrack, i would love to see JC's numbers this year minus his garbagetime stats.[/quote]

What are garbage time stats?

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;653882]What are garbage time stats?[/quote]

It's when we are getting crushed and Campbell leads a few TD drives when our opposition pulls all there starters.

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[quote=WaldSkins;653899]It's when we are getting crushed and Campbell leads a few TD drives when our opposition pulls all there starters.[/quote]

How many games would you say he threw these so-called ?garbage time stats?

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;653901]How many games would you say he threw these so-called ?garbage time stats?[/quote]

The Charger and Falcon game

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Wait one year and he maybe a free agent . Then i would take him.

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[quote=WaldSkins;653909]The Charger and Falcon game[/quote]

I agree i guess but still he got what maybe 100 or 150 extra yards total added that's not that much really

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;653930]I agree i guess but still he got what maybe 100 or 150 extra yards total added that's not that much really[/quote]

And 3 TDs

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no, no, and some more no. the days of signing older vets is over( or at least i hope)

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[quote=Zerohero;653879]Better then a qb who can't win the little or big games. It will never happen without giving up high picks. Without losing picks i would take it in a heartbeat. Maybe not his best statistical year but he had a great year save last two games.

[B]Not to get too much offtrack, i would love to see JC's numbers this year minus his garbagetime stats.[/quote][/B]

Regardless of 'garbagetime stats' his numbers arent that bad considering the lack of o-line.

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I feel like if we sign him hed get hurt week one. Too Risky... although hed transform the offense.

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Should the Skins "take" Donovan McNabb? Of course they should. He would immediately be the best QB on the roster AND he could be a mentor/advisor to all of the other QBs on the roster. Please do not delude yourself into thinking that anyone under contract to the Redskins is comparable as an NFL QB in 2010.

Put aside any knee-jerk reactions to the fact that he plays for the Eagles. He has been in the NFL since 1999 and has been to the playoffs 8 times and led the team to the conference championship game 5 times. That is impressive; there just isn't any other way to look at that. I think that the team he joined in 1999 was 2-14 the year before - so it isn't as if he walked into a team filled with Hall of Fame candidates.

Now to reality...

The Redskins would pay a significant price in a trade for Donovan McNabb and there is the rub. If you are on a 5-year plan to become a perennial contender in the NFC, please do not count on Donovan McNabb being an integral part of that plan in Year Five. Father Time is coming after him and Father Time hasn't missed a tackle yet - - Brett Favre and George Blanda notwithstanding.

If McNabb only cost the Skins a 3rd round pick, they should take him in an instant. But the Eagles will likely want more than that - - particularly from a Division rival.

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No. Overrated. Always has been. And the last thing the Redskins need is an overpriced vet on the down slide of his career. Can we please draft a young QB, develop him and have patience to let him flourish?

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McNabb sucks.

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I'd take him in a hartbeat

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As good as I think that McNabb is at times I don't think that he really fits what Shanny wants in a QB. I could be wrong though. You would have to take the good with the bad with him also. He can connect on some big plays but he is streaky and gets sloppy with his footwork, especially when he is playing from behind. His sloppy footwork causes him to be less accurate in key moments of games. In other words he is not the best candidate if you're playing from behind.

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Oh yeah, get McNabb, and give up picks for a guy that will choke when the game(season) is on the line. Don't we already have a starting QB that is suspect in that area? No to McNabb, we need all the picks in the draft we can get and we need to groom a guy for the future or just stick with Jason and "ride him out". If we had a kickass line JC would be a perennial pro bowler even with his mechanical faults.

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Why is McNabb a story? He's gonna be in Philly next year. I think we have a better shot getting Vick :).

How about Pennington? I mean it's totally outside Shanny's style...he's the type to draft and groom a guy rather than find a vet for one or two years. But seriously Chad has the highest completion % of any active QB and certainly will not be back in Miami

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[quote=GusFrerotte;655958]Oh yeah, get McNabb, and give up picks for a guy that will choke when the game(season) is on the line. Don't we already have a starting QB that is suspect in that area? No to McNabb, we need all the picks in the draft we can get and we need to groom a guy for the future or just stick with Jason and "ride him out". If we had a kickass line JC would be a perennial pro bowler even with his mechanical faults.[/quote]

I swear we could get off this mentality...we can't groom a guy for the future until we have a line. Look at the Jets, they built the o-line and didn't have to groom a guy for the future, they brought in a rookie and won right away.

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THat is my point, keep the picks, get a line build and groom a guy.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;655972]THat is my point, keep the picks, get a line build and groom a guy.[/quote]

Just re-read your post...and I agree with you (I misread it before). This whole thread though continues that mentality of "let's get a QB no matter what" (in this case McNabb), without any thought of building the line.

I guess that it makes me feel better that our new HC is known for building o-lines.

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I wouldn't get a vet QB on the downslide of his career who apparently can't get respect from the young players on his own team. This team needs leadership and if the younger players on the Eagles really are going to a 3 year QB who's only started like 2 or 3 NFL games instead I'd rather not waste anything on him.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/18/report-young-eagles-looking-to-kolb-not-mcnabb-for-advice/]Report: Young Eagles looking to Kolb, not McNabb, for advice | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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[quote=Chevy13;656412]I wouldn't get a vet QB on the downslide of his career who apparently can't get respect from the young players on his own team. This team needs leadership and[B] if the younger players on the Eagles really are going to a 3 year QB who's only started like 2 or 3 NFL games instead I'd rather not waste anything on him.[/B]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/18/report-young-eagles-looking-to-kolb-not-mcnabb-for-advice/]Report: Young Eagles looking to Kolb, not McNabb, for advice | ProFootballTalk.com[/url][/quote]

Kind of like how the Cardinals shouldn't have picked up Jeremy Bridges after we cut him or how the Bengals were stupid for making Benson their starting running back? Sorry, it's not that I want McNabb but we are guilty of overusing this fill in the blanks, between the lines logic.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;656417]Kind of like how the Cardinals shouldn't have picked up Jeremy Bridges after we cut him or how the Bengals were stupid for making Benson their starting running back? Sorry, it's not that I want McNabb but we are guilty of overusing this fill in the blanks, between the lines logic.[/quote]

Yeah, I kinda feel dumb that we didn't pick up Vick for insurance.

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NO!
simple answer

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[quote=Dirtbag359;656417]Kind of like how the Cardinals shouldn't have picked up Jeremy Bridges after we cut him or how the Bengals were stupid for making Benson their starting running back? Sorry, it's not that I want McNabb but we are guilty of overusing this fill in the blanks, between the lines logic.[/quote]

I understan what your saying but you're only looking at the "sucessful" stories but what about the other ones? You know how many times teams will trade for a player even though there are reports of charcter flaws (pacman) or in this case a player not earning the trust or maybe even respect of his own offense and it doesn't work out like the few stories you mentioned? I bet you for every one Benson story there's a lot more that don't work out Hell you might find a few on our very own team so it's not like we've been so great at picking players lately especially since Hall and Haynsworth have been so worth the money!! All I'm saying is that if there's reports of this guy not being seen as a leader or a trustworthy person on his own offense we should probably look into it before we start giving out money. Just cause you look at a few stories like Benson's doesn't mean the odds of it happening for us are high I can understand how you'd think that if you ignore the many more when it doesn't work out. I don't expect or think that the odd of any QB to play like Probowlers at Favre and Warners age just cause they can do it how bout looking at the hundreds or thousands of NFL QBs that can't do it? I like Mcnabb but I just don't think he's our solution and the way we played this year I think we need some leadership and someone who has the trust of his offense. It just worries me a little bit when a QB has those kind of reports come out and I know they may not always be true but I don't think he's what we need. I doubt he'll come here anyways so I guess this whole post is just a waste :)

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[quote=Chevy13;656440]I understan what your saying but you're only looking at the "sucessful" stories but what about the other ones? You know how many times teams will trade for a player even though there are reports of charcter flaws (pacman) or in this case a player not earning the trust or maybe even respect of his own offense and it doesn't work out like the few stories you mentioned? I bet you for every one Benson story there's a lot more that don't work out Hell you might find a few on our very own team so it's not like we've been so great at picking players lately especially since Hall and Haynsworth have been so worth the money!! All I'm saying is that if there's reports of this guy not being seen as a leader or a trustworthy person on his own offense we should probably look into it before we start giving out money. Just cause you look at a few stories like Benson's doesn't mean the odds of it happening for us are high I can understand how you'd think that if you ignore the many more when it doesn't work out. I don't expect or think that the odd of any QB to play like Probowlers at Favre and Warners age just cause they can do it how bout looking at the hundreds or thousands of NFL QBs that can't do it? I like Mcnabb but I just don't think he's our solution and the way we played this year I think we need some leadership and someone who has the trust of his offense. It just worries me a little bit when a QB has those kind of reports come out and I know they may not always be true but I don't think he's what we need. I doubt he'll come here anyways so I guess this whole post is just a waste :)[/quote]

Yeah, I understand. Like I said I don't even really want to go after McNabb. I just think that a lot of us (myself included) are guilty of using the vague "cut/available for a reason" logic. Of course the opposite is just as bad, that urge inside forum posters to suggest we go after every free agent with a decent Madden rating.

And sorry Angry but Vick was different. We knew the reason he was available, outside of the whole legal thing and he proved it this year. Basically he sucks as a Quarterback.

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Hell NO! Let someone else spend their future on him. San Fran?

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Depending on what had to be done to get him, for a year or 2 I would if the deal was good. He's better than what the Skins have and would be an solid bridge between now and the future QB.

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I wouldnt want him to come here.

He has played well for Philadelphia, and even though he can't win the big game, he deserves to end his career on a high note.

He would be a sack dummy here. He's already injury prone and after a few games here, he could be hurt permanantly. I want to see a great guy like him end his career with a team where he has a real chance, like Minnesota, or Chicago or something along those lines...

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Good times, good times. Back down memory lane for you fellas. Seems like I never posted in this thread...until now. :cheeky-sm

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McNabb for Kolb.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;656417]Kind of like how the Cardinals shouldn't have picked up Jeremy Bridges after we cut him or how the Bengals were stupid for making Benson their starting running back? Sorry, it's not that I want McNabb but we are guilty of overusing this fill in the blanks, between the lines logic.[/quote]
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[quote=firstdown;653709]We all ready have O line issues and now you want a QB that pukes on his center.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQo6zt3bWlM"]YouTube - McNabb can't take the heat[/URL][/quote]

I got this one right.

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The Redskins for a 3rd rounder........ dumb asses

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I still think McNabb is better than having Grossman. He is still the same QB one day he looks ok then he throws a pic or sack fumble. I feel that everytime he gets sacked he fumbles kind of reminds me of Campbell.

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[quote=firstdown;653709]We all ready have O line issues and now you want a QB that pukes on his center.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQo6zt3bWlM"]YouTube - McNabb can't take the heat[/URL][/quote]

If that would get Rabach off the field, I'd be all for it. Serious.