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Re: Haslett to accept Defensive Coordinator
And I thought we were going to win the Super Bowl next year (: . Hope they stick with the 4-3 for now .
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good hire. haslett is just what the defense needs. a former player who's a hard ass and won't coddle landry, haynesworth and hall. and why is everyone crying about the 3-4? did any of the coaches say they were switching the defense? people need to relax.
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But if we did switch to a 3-4....Peppers anyone?
Seriously though I think we won't be using the 3-4 with the regularity some are concerned we will |
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[quote=skinsfan69;654001]good hire. haslett is just what the defense needs. a former player who's a hard ass and won't coddle landry, haynesworth and hall. and why is everyone crying about the 3-4? [B]did any of the coaches say they were switching the defense? people need to relax.[/B] [/quote]
No but all reports do [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4820872"]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4820872[/URL] |
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They are not retarded, they aren't just gonna switch Def schemes without having the correct pieces in place. I like Hasslet, he seems to be a no nonsense kind of dude who should keep the players working hard, and the word aggresive makes me tingle.
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[quote=SmootSmack;653998]I think we're going to give 3-4 looks but I really don't think we're going 3-4 full-time[/quote]
I agree with SmootSmack. I don't see us going strictly 3-4 right away. |
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I didn't like this move at all. We shouldn't fart around with a 3-4 with a pissed off 4-3 dominating DT who wants to blow up his stats and not be a space eater. Also to be fair, haslett really hasn't had a lot of dominating Defensive players to my knowledge. I don't know if Greg lloyd played when he was DC in Pittsburgh. In New Orleans I can't think of any star defensive players except mike mckenzie when he was in his prime. when he was in St. Louis he had OJ Atogwe and Will Witherspoon and a rookie chris long. So maybe he can do something with some of our 'talent' on D. But thats the closest thing I have to a positive thought on us getting Haslett.
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With the players we have, I dont think we go to a 3-4 next year... our defensive line is actually one of our strong points... so I would think if they were going 3-4, It would be Carter, Haynesworth and Jarmon, with Orkapo moved back to LB... and I'd really like to see him more at DE... than McIntosh, Fletcher and then we'd have to bring someone else in I'd think?
I'm very intersted to see how this works out... Either way, I'm a fan of Hasletts, I think its a good move and I continue to really like the people who are being brought in right now and I think its a big step in the right direction for the organization... |
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[quote=Redskin Warrior;654005]No but all reports do
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4820872]Sources: Washington Redskins hire Jim Haslett to lead defense - ESPN[/url][/quote] I think it will probably be some type of mix. |
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I really hope it's a hybrid 3-4/4-3 type D, like the Cardinals defense from they're super bowl year. Plus wouldn't that be a good test for shanahan to see if he really wants to go that route or not.
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Remember when Spurrier took a shot at Haslett, saying something like working all those long hours wasn't doing Haslett any good in terms of success on the field?
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This is a clear message that things will be different in Ashburn next season. I believe Hasslet will do a good job, he has never had a defense as talanted as we have here in Washington. We'll have a hybrid scheme similar to the Ravens/ Jets IMO. If anything this moves shows me that AH's words carry clout. Haynesworth wanted a more aggressive defense, he got Mr. Aggressive.
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[quote=CultBrennan59;653949]it means that LaRon goes back to SS, and I'm sure we'll bring in OJ Atogwe the FS of St. Louis[/quote]
Ur sure we will??? |
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[quote=WaldSkins;653958]I like how we have the leagues best DT but we don't use him to the best of his ability.[/quote]
Its beautiful isnt it???? |
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Richard Seymour would look good in a skins jersey lined up next to AH
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[quote=SmootSmack;654024]Remember when Spurrier took a shot at Haslett, saying something like working all those long hours wasn't doing Haslett any good in terms of success on the field?[/quote]And the Saints kicked our ass early in the year.
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[quote=Redskin Jim;653970]I have watched this guy since he was the Saints head coach. He blows... I have not seen him do anything even mediocre. ALL piss poor coaching and personell selection. Sorry to be debby downer, but I can see a defensive coaching change after a season or two. This sucks, but I guess there wasn't anyone else out there..[/quote]
How did he get a head coaching job if he was such a shitty coordinator? Doesn't seem like he's done much since he was the HC of the Saints, but did he do anything positive before that gig? |
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[quote=skinsfaninok;653979]Why is everyone talking about O.J? He tore his knee up real bad if i'm not mistaken, he could be done.[/quote]
Isn't he in jail also?? Plus we don't need anymore wide recievers here. |
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Honestly I couldn't figure what all the fuss was with Haslett or Zimmer. Both had mediocre numbers. I guess I was more excited about Zimmer cause it would not be too much of a change.
I even thought maybe seeing what happened to Wade Phillips or Jack Del Rio but Jack is being retained another year and most likely Phillips also. I read we did try to meet with Romeo Crennell but either we were turned down or he just didn't make it to us after his KC interview. [url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/12/redskins-made-a-run-at-romeo/]Redskins made a run at Romeo | ProFootballTalk.com[/url] I guess we all have to hope Haslett does really good this time around. He has a lot of talent on this team. In reference to switching to a 3-4 and what we would need..... [url=http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=315175]No more excuses about personnel. No more whining. We can run a 3-4. - EXTREMESKINS.com[/url] |
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Most likely AH would not be our NT. I guess we would try to look for one in FA and maybe try to pick one up in the draft if ones available in later rounds which I doubt happens. Usually the big NT's go fast. But most are expecting AH to be the DE in a 3-4 and I could see it. I know people are saying he's too big but AH actually plays pretty fast for his size. I think he would work out great shifting between week side and strong side DE.
On another note Bobby Turner (RB's coach)has not yet agreed or signed any deals. Bobby April although reported to be a ST's coach the Skins would go after has not been signed up for any interviews with the Skins as of yet. He's met with Pitt and SF. He was supposed to be in Orlando for a speaking engagement so perhaps we contact him tomorrow. Reports are the team is looking into WR's coach Mann of Tampa Bay..... [QUOTE][I]Posted at 4:32 PM ET, 01/12/2010 Mann reportedly to interview with Redskins (UPDATED, 6:35 p.m.) Just a few other coaching-staff tidbits... While the Redskins have reportedly offered a position to Bobby Turner, who was Mike Shanahan's long-time running backs coach, it is not believed that he has yet accepted their offer. While the St. Petersburg Times has reported that Tampa Bay has allowed its wide receivers coach Richard Mann to interview with another unnamed team, the National Football Post's Brad Biggs reveals the Redskins are that mystery team. Former Buffalo assistant Bobby April has been mentioned in multiple reports as a candidate to coach special teams for the Redskins. But an NFL source said April does not have an interview scheduled with Washington, though he has interviewed with two teams and has other meetings scheduled. There are also reports that secondary coach Jerry Gray is interviewing this afternoon to be the Redskins' defensive coordinator. Jim Haslett is in discussions with the team for the same position, though he was also contacted Monday night about the New York Giants' defensive coordinator position. According to a league source, Bob Slowik, Shanahan's defensive coordinator in 2008 who spent four total seasons in Denver, is also Washington-bound. He has plenty of experience with defensive backs and could find himself coaching them here. By Rick Maese | January 12, 2010; 4:32 PM ET | Permalink | Comments (64) [/I][/QUOTE] |
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While Albert makes more sense as a DE in a 3-4, my intuition he's much more valuable to the team as DT in a 4-3 scheme. At DT he takes two inside blockers, often times freeing up edge rushers. As a DE the offense will likely just keep a tackle and TE or FB to keep Albert at bay, leaving the rest of the oline intact. So I would say he's much more disruptive at DT, because let's face it he's not ever gonna be a speed edge rusher.
I don't see us having near the pieces in place to run a 3-4. Unless you count on Jarmon becoming a stud overnight we're missing 2 guys up front and at least 1 guy at LB. That's a lot of talent going to the defense when we basically need 2 starting OTs, a RB and possibly a QB just to be competitive again on offense. |
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Maybe we use a 4-3 when albert is in then switch to a 3-4 on breathers for the big man.
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Well the reports were Shanahan was interested in the 3-4 or 3-4 hybrid. So I would guess as others have said we would be running a 3-4 hybrid. I think thats what Baltimore does and now the Jets. If we can get Haslett to emulate these two defensive scheme's then we are going to be great. I think if he simply comes out and runs a pure 3-4 defense we might be screwed cause as again others have said we don't have all the pieces. A hybrid would be a smooth transition and maybe better anyway. More to confuse the offenses with.
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Looks like he will install the 3-4 defense[/quote] Is that a for sure...also, do we have the personnel for the 3-4 defense? |
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As long as Blache is gone I don't care what kind of defense we run.
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i love how the giants wanted haslett and we got him...and i agree with the dude saying use the 4-3 with AH in the game and 3-4 when he needs a breather...which hopefully won't be every other play.
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god i hate the giants gnats, VAGIANTS
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as long as the D works, i could careless what scheme he runs.
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Thought you guys would be interested in this.
[url=http://www.nfl.com/kickoff/story?id=09000d5d80a518b3&template=without-video&confirm=true]Hybrid defenses popping up across the NFL[/url] |
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anyone have defensive stats of Haslett coached NFL teams?....just wondering
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[quote=skinsfaninok;653973]Funny how u have forgotten all about Chris Horton:doh:[/quote]
what about him? |
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[quote=Redskin Warrior;654005]No but all reports do
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4820872]Sources: Washington Redskins hire Jim Haslett to lead defense - ESPN[/url][/quote] They haven't even talked to Haslett yet; he's run the 4-3 as well. We'll see.. I'm definitely wondering what this move was made for though.. I mean Haslett couldn't get another NFL job, at least not one he was willing to take.. not even a DC spot anywhere that he could've landed? |
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i think with 3 4 defense, defense will only get better
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[quote=tryfuhl;654060]They haven't even talked to Haslett yet; he's run the 4-3 as well. We'll see..
I'm definitely wondering what this move was made for though.. I mean Haslett couldn't get another NFL job, at least not one he was willing to take.. not even a DC spot anywhere that he could've landed?[/quote] Guys I know this sounds crazy but take this for a thought...3-4 and 4-3 Jims used both.....Jim is probably going to run both! |
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[quote=12thMan;653989]It wouldn't shock me one bit if Haynesworth is traded.[/quote]
they will not pay him 40 million for one season cap or no cap and that is what would happen. |
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[quote=SmootSmack;653998]I think we're going to give 3-4 looks but I really don't think we're going 3-4 full-time[/quote]
Agreed. Man we sure don't jump to conclusions around here huh? One hire and we're changing to the 3-4 and getting rid of Haynesworth? |
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I really have no strong feelings in either direction on this hire. Yeah he's had some mediocre rankings recently but I think you have to consider the teams and the talent he was coaching at the time. Nobody in the know seems to dispute that he's a solid defensive mind, so I'm willing to be open to what he may bring to the table. At the least, he should be more aggressive and inventive with his schemes than Blache was.
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I don't know why ppl keep focusing on Haslett's record as a HC. He ran a good defense for three seasons in Pittsburgh (top 15) before becoming the Saints HC. Grilliams was a pretty bad HC in Buffalo and Spags has had a rough time in St. Louis, but they are both really good DCs. Ppl need to chill the F out and see how things work out.
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dont like the move, he past defenses werent that great....
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[quote=skinsfaninok;653968]He has never played a NT, and he has made it clear that he wants to rush the passer[/quote]
I could see big Al moving to DE in a 3-4 alignment, he loves to rush the passer. Daseal spoke about Vince Wilfork, I wish there was a way we could pry him away from NE. I wanted us to draft him the year he came in. He was on the board at our selection. |
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