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[quote=BringBackJoeT;654673]Yeah, I was more comfortable doing it online than via text. Not sure why, but I guess that method has become the "old fashioned" way for me as well.[/quote]

That was the first time I ever done anything like that of donating through text...it was so easy. Very cool, but I can understand any hesitancy with the method...

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;654645]The same reason I care less about you than I would my family, priority.

That's your opinion and you just contradicted it too. I don't see why we would give one bloody cent to Haiti or anyone else?

We sent aid to Iran when an earthquake killed people over there. Yet they persist in funding terrorism and blaming all of their problems on us.

When the freeways collapsed in Oakland I don't remember anyone giving a damn about dead and trapped Americans?

Do you know how many times the Marines have been deployed to Haiti and the Dominican Republic? It's a rat hole.[/quote]

Wrong + Wrong != Right

I think Haiti is the poorest country in the [i]entire[/i] world. My buddy went there to build houses, and he said there were dead people in the street everywhere.

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[URL="http://velonews.competitor.com/"]Lance Armstrong contributed 250k![/URL]

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;654698]Wrong + Wrong != Right

I think Haiti is the poorest country in the [I]entire[/I] world. My buddy went there to build houses, and he said there were dead people in the street everywhere.[/quote]
Is he there now or was this in the past?

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Don't hate on me. I don't want those people to suffer but I'm not God. I wouldn't wish that kind of suffering on anyone. All I'm saying is charity should start at home, employment too, but that's another thread.

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No hate, frankly I could care less what someone else gives or doesn't give. I actually kinda feel bad for ya, but that's another thread.

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Speaking of bad apples:

[url=http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/14/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6096806.shtml]Pat Robertson Haiti Comments Spark Uproar - Political Hotsheet - CBS News[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;654734]No hate, frankly I could care less what someone else gives or doesn't give. I actually kinda feel bad for ya, but that's another thread.[/quote]

:) Somewhere there is a drugged up monkey laughing.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;654645]The same reason I care less about you than I would my family, priority.

That's your opinion and you just contradicted it too. I don't see why we would give one bloody cent to Haiti or anyone else?

We sent aid to Iran when an earthquake killed people over there. Yet they persist in funding terrorism and blaming all of their problems on us.

[B]When the freeways collapsed in Oakland I don't remember anyone giving a damn about dead and trapped Americans? [/B]

Do you know how many times the Marines have been deployed to Haiti and the Dominican Republic? It's a rat hole.[/quote]

A LOT different. We had better means than any other nation to rescue those trapped Americans. I'm sure plenty of people around the world cared about the people that were hurt and killed in the Bay Area that day.

The fact that Haiti is a "rat hole" in your words is part of the reason those people need our help. It's the poorest country in the western hemisphere.

Obviously everyone here would be more upset if this tragedy occurred on American soil, but that takes nothing away from the fact that millions of people who were already suffering from extreme poverty are now basically in hell. We have the means to help, and we should.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;654748]:) Somewhere there is a drugged up monkey laughing.[/quote]

Alrighty then

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[quote=GMScud;654750]A LOT different. We had better means than any other nation to rescue those trapped Americans. I'm sure plenty of people around the world cared about the people that were hurt and killed in the Bay Area that day.

The fact that Haiti is a "rat hole" in your words is part of the reason those people need our help. It's the poorest country in the western hemisphere.

Obviously everyone here would be more upset if this tragedy occurred on American soil, but that takes nothing away from the fact that millions of people who were already suffering from extreme poverty are now basically in hell. We have the means to help, and we should.[/quote]

Fine . . . . You all want to be all Christian and save the world, go ahead. If that makes you feel better about yourselves, so be it. Haiti is the poorest country in the hemisphere for a reason. You're right, Haiti isn't a rat hole. All of the rats welled up a bus and floated away from there a long time ago. Half of those people are already going to where they're going. All of the tears and money isn't going to help them.

They send in the Marines in to all of these countries everytime something happens. When I was in they were sent to the Dominican Republic and El Salvador. Yeah, they love us when we show up with a free meal and some meds, but when their bellies are full it's, "fuk-a-U-Yankae-Bouy". Somehow that doesn't make it to CNN.

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This made think of a cartoon in the Newspaper years back, I tried to find it to no avail.

Anywho it should like a white board in a publisher's office and it had like a formula on it.

Basically it said if 10 Americans die front page, 10 Europeans 2nd page, etc... then some third world country 10 die it would be in the Style section. Basically saying we as Americans have little symptom for the rest of the planet. Which seems to be somewhat true, sadly.

I had a lot of international friends when I lived in NOVA and a common theme amongst all of them was that Americans knew little and cared little about anything outside of the US.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;654762]Fine . . . . You all want to be all Christian and save the world, go ahead. If that makes you feel better about yourselves, so be it. Haiti is the poorest country in the hemisphere for a reason. You're right, Haiti isn't a rat hole. All of the rats welled up a bus and floated away from there a long time ago. Half of those people are already going to where they're going. All of the tears and money isn't going to help them.

They send in the Marines in to all of these countries everytime something happens. When I was in they were sent to the Dominican Republic and El Salvador. Yeah, they love us when we show up with a free meal and some meds, but when their bellies are full it's, "fuk-a-U-Yankae-Bouy". Somehow that doesn't make it to CNN.[/quote]

To be honest dude I much rather visit Haiti then Varina VA.

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[quote=Mattyk;654739]Speaking of bad apples:

[URL="http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/14/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6096806.shtml"]Pat Robertson Haiti Comments Spark Uproar - Political Hotsheet - CBS News[/URL][/quote]

Looks like Robertson is officially senile. If you're a conservative Christian, fine. But at least be a conservative Christian with some common sense.

Guys like this are why conservative Christians look terrible to many people who aren't.

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[quote=mredskins;654765]To be honest dude I much rather visit Haiti then Varina VA.[/quote]

LOL...me too....it's more interesting that's for sure.

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[quote=mredskins;654765]To be honest dude I much rather visit Haiti then Varina VA.[/quote]

That works.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;654762]Fine . . . . You all want to be all Christian and save the world, go ahead. If that makes you feel better about yourselves, so be it. Haiti is the poorest country in the hemisphere for a reason. You're right, Haiti isn't a rat hole. All of the rats welled up a bus and floated away from there a long time ago. Half of those people are already going to where they're going. All of the tears and money isn't going to help them.

They send in the Marines in to all of these countries everytime something happens. When I was in they were sent to the Dominican Republic and El Salvador. Yeah, they love us when we show up with a free meal and some meds, but when their bellies are full it's, "fuk-a-U-Yankae-Bouy". Somehow that doesn't make it to CNN.[/quote]

Huh?? Be all Christian and save the world?? Not at all. I simply said giving aid to Haiti right now in the wake of a awful natural disaster is the right thing to do. It's got nothing to do with religion or "saving the world."

Or I could just pull a Trample and hole up in my gun shed in Varina, VA and play isolationist. That's an awesome world-view.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;654762]Fine . . . . You all want to be all Christian and save the world, go ahead. If that makes you feel better about yourselves, so be it. Haiti is the poorest country in the hemisphere for a reason. You're right, Haiti isn't a rat hole. All of the rats welled up a bus and floated away from there a long time ago. Half of those people are already going to where they're going. All of the tears and money isn't going to help them.

They send in the Marines in to all of these countries everytime something happens. When I was in they were sent to the Dominican Republic and El Salvador. Yeah, they love us when we show up with a free meal and some meds, but when their bellies are full it's, "fuk-a-U-Yankae-Bouy". Somehow that doesn't make it to CNN.[/quote]

I usually agree with a lot of what you say, but it sounds like you're letting a bad experience completely skew the reality and direness of the current situation. There's bad eggs everywhere and maybe you ran into more of those bad eggs in Haiti than good eggs. But there are definitely people there who are doing nothing more than trying to get by with nothing, even though you may not have encountered them.

Just because they're poor and we aren't doesn't mean they're any less deserving of help than we are.

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It's your time, money, and effort. By all means, do what you will with it. I'll let you all have the last word.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;654645]
1) We sent aid to Iran when an earthquake killed people over there. Yet they persist in funding terrorism and blaming all of their problems on us.

2) When the freeways collapsed in Oakland I don't remember anyone giving a damn about dead and trapped Americans?

3) Do you know how many times the Marines have been deployed to Haiti and the Dominican Republic? It's a rat hole.[/quote]

1) We sent aid to the help the Iranian people...not the government. It's that kind of compassion that makes this a great country. Do people take advantage of that? Of course they do, I personally don't want to let that change who we are as a country.

The people of Iran are good people... I hope you get the opportunity that I have had to get to know many of them. There's a reason that there's a major uprising to overthrow the government, because it doesn't represent many of their best interests (or ours).

2) Lets look at the scale of the events here. How many people died when the bridge collapsed? Not 500,000. What kind of compassion did our country show for Katrina? 9/11? An incredible amount.

3) Aside from the many Americans living in Haiti, there are millions of Haitians that are without food, water, and other basic needs. Does our country have its fair share of problems? Absolutely, but timing is critical right now to help these people from dying. I'm proud to belong to the country that jumps to help aid people in these dire conditions. I'm proud that every time there's an earthquake, tsunami, hurricane, flood, etc... Airplanes with the American flag are the first ones in to help those in need. It's not about feeling warm and fuzzy inside, its about having the kind of character that the rest of the world needs. And just because the rest of the world doesn't possess this trait, doesn't mean we should stop.

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Is there a reason why we're giving Trample so much attention here? This thread shouldn't be about Trample and how he feels about the rest of the world. It seems like this thread isn't even about Haiti anymore, but instead it's all about Trample and the type of person he is...or at least the type of person he wants to come across as here.

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[quote=SmootSmack;654794]Is there a reason why we're giving Trample so much attention here? This thread shouldn't be about Trample and how he feels about the rest of the world. It seems like this thread isn't even about Haiti anymore, but instead it's all about Trample and the type of person he is...or at least the type of person he wants to come across as here.[/quote]

We fear things that are different from us! Send Trample into exile! But no seriously. TTE is okay with me.

But good point SS. Back to Haiti.

I wish I could donate money but I'm already having problems making ends meet. Instead I think I might head down to the Red Cross and give blood. I'm sure they'll need lots of it after this disaster.

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[quote=SmootSmack;654794]Is there a reason why we're giving Trample so much attention here? This thread shouldn't be about Trample and how he feels about the rest of the world. It seems like this thread isn't even about Haiti anymore, but instead it's all about Trample and the type of person he is...or at least the type of person he wants to come across as here.[/quote]

Point well taken

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I'll give some blood. They tell me O+ is pretty good stuff. I haven't gotten any ink in awhile, so it should be cool.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;654795]We fear things that are different from us! Send Trample into exile! But no seriously. TTE is okay with me.

But good point SS. Back to Haiti.

I wish I could donate money but I'm already having problems making ends meet. Instead I think I might head down to the Red Cross and give blood. I'm sure they'll need lots of it after this disaster.[/quote]
After you give blood go have a few drink and they will knock you over.

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One of my sales ladies her son is headed over with the Army and hi job is to retrieve bodies.

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[quote=firstdown;654708]Is he there now or was this in the past?[/quote]

Oh sorry, I realize now that wasn't very clear. He was there in the past, and even then there were plenty of dead people in the streets. He said that people die, and nobody moves them until they begin to stink.

The point I was trying to make was that, even without such a major disaster, they don't have the means (or desire?) to remove dead bodies from their streets -- they certainly cannot handle this on their own.

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[quote=SmootSmack;654794]Is there a reason why we're giving Trample so much attention here? This thread shouldn't be about Trample and how he feels about the rest of the world. It seems like this thread isn't even about Haiti anymore, but instead it's all about Trample and the type of person he is...or at least the type of person he wants to come across as here.[/quote]
Good question . Seems that anyone who feels strongly about donating ... would do so out of compassion , not so they could " brag " about giving , then piss on anyone who doesn't . I give to a few charities and foundations , but I don't tell my friends , and then bash them if they don't also give ? Lets just hope < or pray > for the best for all of the people in Haiti , as making personal attacks on other/s won't help anyone . Wishing for the best in Haiti and hope everyone has a good safe night .

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[quote=SmootSmack;654794]Is there a reason why we're giving Trample so much attention here? This thread shouldn't be about Trample and how he feels about the rest of the world. It seems like this thread isn't even about Haiti anymore, but instead it's all about Trample and the type of person he is...[B]or at least the type of person he wants to come across as here[/B].[/quote]
i think you nailed it

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[quote=dmek25;654946]i think you nailed it[/quote]

Why do you doubt that I'm insincere?

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The U.N. Special Envoy for Haiti is going to be in.....

... Massachussets tomorrow campaigning for the Democratic Senate Candidate there.

[url=http://marthacoakley.com/news/press_releases/details/2010-01-president-bill-clinton-senator-john-kerry-to-join-coa]President Bill Clinton, Senator John Kerry To Join Coakley For Campaign Rally On Friday[/url]

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[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redskins_Join_Haiti_Disaster_Relief_Efforts_100907.jsp]Redskins Join Haiti Disaster Relief Efforts[/url]

Redskins owner Daniel Snyder will donate the use of his private airplane to the relief efforts underway by Diageo’s Spirit of the Americas program. Joining the Diageo disaster relief team will be Ken Harvey, former pro-bowler and Director of Responsibility for the Washington Redskins.

The plane is currently scheduled to depart for Haiti on the morning of Sunday, Jan. 17, and will be stocked with relief personnel and supplies, along with clothing donated by the team.

“We’re not a relief organization, but there are times when our resources allow us to step in and make a difference, if only a small one,” Snyder said. “Diageo has been involved in relief efforts around the world for many years, and we’re fortunate to be able to partner with them, Getting the right people and supplies to Haiti is critically important, and we’re providing our best resources.”

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[quote=SmootSmack;655023][URL="http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redskins_Join_Haiti_Disaster_Relief_Efforts_100907.jsp"]Redskins Join Haiti Disaster Relief Efforts[/URL]

Redskins owner Daniel Snyder will donate the use of his private airplane to the relief efforts underway by Diageo’s Spirit of the Americas program. Joining the Diageo disaster relief team will be Ken Harvey, former pro-bowler and Director of Responsibility for the Washington Redskins.

The plane is currently scheduled to depart for Haiti on the morning of Sunday, Jan. 17, and will be stocked with relief personnel and supplies, along with clothing donated by the team.

“We’re not a relief organization, but there are times when our resources allow us to step in and make a difference, if only a small one,” Snyder said. “Diageo has been involved in relief efforts around the world for many years, and we’re fortunate to be able to partner with them, Getting the right people and supplies to Haiti is critically important, and we’re providing our best resources.”[/quote]

DS is such a mean and horrible person....eyes rolling.

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One thing people cannot say about Dan is that he does not care for his fellow man. We have seen what he has done for his players in time of need and now we see what he is doing for the people in Haiti.

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What the hell. I'm watching this on TV over the past few days and all they keep talking about is how to get the supplies to all the people. Is it really that hard? Just put the stuff on a truck and take it out to the dang people. Unload the trucks and then make another trip an have a few armed people to control the crowds. Then we have CNN interviewing a 14 yr old girl while she is still trapped in a building. Put down the freaking camera and help them don't stick a mike in her face. I guess CNN only has good rating when we have disasters so they have to do anything to get people to watch. The Un also has done just about nothing.

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It's a real mess there to say the least. They are getting the supplies there, but we are talking about 3 million people who have been devasted, and the roads and airport in Haiti just have never seen the sheer volume of equipment and vehicles moving back and forth.

I must say I was moved today by former presidents Bush and Clinton joining Obama at the podium talking about investing all of their energy into this effort. As crazy as it sounds for me to be saying this, it was actually good hearing from W publicly talk for the first time in a long time. It was a very proud moment.

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[quote=12thMan;655376]It's a real mess there to say the least. They are getting the supplies there, but we are talking about 3 million people who have been devasted, and the roads and airport in Haiti just have never seen the sheer volume of equipment and vehicles moving back and forth.

I must say I was moved today by former presidents Bush and Clinton joining Obama at the podium talking about investing all of their energy into this effort. As crazy as it sounds for me to be saying this, [B]it was actually good hearing from W publicly talk for the first time in a long time[/B]. It was a very proud moment.[/quote]

Did you see how lit he looked in Jerry Jones luxery box at the Dallas/Philly game last week?

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[quote=Angry;655378]Did you see how lit he looked in Jerry Jones luxery box at the Dallas/Philly game ast week?[/quote]

Haha..no, really? I think W is just enjoying his retirement. I don't blame him one bit. He's a good man.

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Yeah, I didn't blame him either but his face was bloodshot red and he had that glazed over look in his eyes. His body language wasn't helping much either. I just laughed.

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[quote=12thMan;655376]It's a real mess there to say the least. They are getting the supplies there, but we are talking about 3 million people who have been devasted, and the roads and airport in Haiti just have never seen the sheer volume of equipment and vehicles moving back and forth.

I must say I was moved today by former presidents Bush and Clinton joining Obama at the podium talking about investing all of their energy into this effort. As crazy as it sounds for me to be saying this, it was actually good hearing from W publicly talk for the first time in a long time. It was a very proud moment.[/quote]

Im glade to see all we are doing but it just seems like the supplies aare there but no one knows what to do with it. The UN today kicked several doctors out of a tent trying to help people because they feared for their safty. The doctors wanted to stay but where forced to leave and they just kind of left the injured people there to fend for themself. What the F. is that all about and why couldn't the UN leave a few men ther to provide protection.