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Favre should never coach. He wouldn't help his backups for the past 5 or 6 seasons so why should you think he'd be able to groom young passers.
I also believe that great players make for bad coaches (Dikta being the possible exception).

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What made Brett Favre great this season, he didn't make the bonehead plays all season like he did in the NFC Championship. What I saw was the old Brett Favre, the gunslinger, the riverboat gambler that attempted to force the ball into coverage and throw interceptions at the worst point in the game. Some might call that entertaining but I call it dumb football. Greatest of all time...NOT!

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[quote=SolidSnake84;658025]LMFAO if you think Campbell deserves a comparison to Favre. Almost everytime Jason took a hard hit, Collins would come in. Look at that game where he bruised his chest...Campbell might be tough, but there is no way at this point in his career he can be compared with Favre.

And 1 game for Mr. Favre? Have you been paying attention? Brett has been getting his shit pounded like that for 19 seasons...he's tough and has never missed a game. It remains seen if anyone will ever break his streak...[/quote]


I believe his post was referring to one game and not his 19 season career. You are right when you take that into consideration, but if your comparing one game to JC's worst game of getting beat up there wasn't too much difference between the two on a one to one comparison. Don't let your hate for JC not let you make a honest assessment about his toughness. JC has a loooooooong way to go and a whole lot to accomplish before I would ever compare the two on a career to career basis. You may not think so, but I'm far from an idiot.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;658126]So if you're the GM of a team and you can have ANY all-time great, in his prime, which of these would you take Favre instead of:

Sammy Baugh
Sonny Jurgensen
Joe Montana
Steve Young
John Elway
Johnny Unitas
Dan Mario
Dan Fouts
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Troy Aikman
Otto Graham
Bart Starr
Jim Kelly[/quote]
I would take the following over Brett Favre.
Joe Montana, Steve Young, John Elway, Johnny Unitas, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady.

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greatest of all time? no. but what about greatest 40 yr old qb?

im a big favre fan, was real happy to follow him this year, those vikings-packers games were some of the best reg season games this year.

i think hes done though. he took a beating and said after the game that he was mentally and physically spent.

thank you brett favre, you've been hella fun to watch.

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[quote=rypper11;658323]Favre should never coach. He wouldn't help his backups for the past 5 or 6 seasons so why should you think he'd be able to groom young passers.
I also believe that great players make for bad coaches (Dikta being the possible exception).[/quote]
Seemed like Aron was ready to play when it was his turn and I'm sure Brett has helped him over the years.

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[quote=firstdown;658338]Seemed like Aron was ready to play when it was his turn and I'm sure Brett has helped him over the years.[/quote]Rodgers being ready to play had a whole lot more to do with Mike McCarthy than Favre. I don't think Favre was interested in anyone but himself:

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=yasinskas_pat&id=3278137"]Rodgers says he's ready to lead Packers - NFL - ESPN[/URL]
From this link it looks like it was more of Rodgers helping Favre than the other way around.


This isn't related to your post but just thought I'd throw it out there. Here's a quote from Fran Tarkenton about Favre: Tarkenton added that “I think he has been a great flamboyant quarterback, but he has made more stupid plays than any great quarterback that I’ve ever seen."

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So he did one game better then Tavaris, i wonder what TJ could have done with extra year of exp and the best team on the field.

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[quote=Zerohero;658404]So he did one game better then Tavaris, i wonder what TJ could have done with extra year of exp and the best team on the field.[/quote]

TJ would have gotten his ass handed to him this year given the drop off of their O-line and run game.

If you think TJ could have held a candle to the numbers Favre put up this year, you were watching a different QB than I was last year. If folks want to dog on Favre for his arrogance/selfishness/dumb ints, that fine, but I give props when a guy plays lights out, and that is what Favre did this year. +24 TD ratio, 107 rating...I mean c'mon, dude was a gamer this year.


SPLIT CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2009 363 531 4202 68.4 7.91 63 33 7 34 107.2
Career 6083 9811 69329 62.0 7.07 99 497 317 503 86.6

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[quote=Zerohero;658404]So he did one game better then Tavaris, i wonder what TJ could have done with extra year of exp and the best team on the field.[/quote]

t-jack started like 3 games last year and was pulled for gus frerotte..

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Gus Frerotte looked like an all pro compared to Tarvis.

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[quote=rypper11;658323]Favre should never coach. He wouldn't help his backups for the past 5 or 6 seasons so why should you think he'd be able to groom young passers.
I also believe that great players make for bad coaches (Dikta being the possible exception).[/quote]

Grimm?
Singletary?
Haslett?...ok you got me. ;)

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imo favre helped rodgers be the player he is. you follow someone like favre you gotta pick up on his leadership and how he carries himself. no one here really knows what went on and i think rodgers just doesn't appreciate what he learned behind a legend..

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[quote=johnwayne;658467]imo favre helped rodgers be the player he is. you follow someone like favre you gotta pick up on his leadership and how he carries himself. no one here really knows what went on and [B]i think rodgers just doesn't appreciate what he learned behind a legend..[/B][/quote]

What makes you think Rodgers doesn't appreciate the help?

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[quote=WaldSkins;658471]What makes you think Rodgers doesn't appreciate the help?[/quote]

idk, just watching interviews with him and what not...

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[quote=johnwayne;658018]i know everyone around here hates everything that comes with this guy but that has to be the gutsy play i've ever seen..he was beat up pretty bad and kept getting up. anyone see his post game conference? he looked like he had been punched in the face a few times..[/quote]

The NFL and the Vikes got all the mileage out of this thing they could muster...lets face it without some hack appeals judge making an obstructionist decision about the Williams... Favre never comes back...

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Didn't the great one say it was not his job to teach Rodgers when the Pack drafted Rodgers? What was better than the Vikes getting beat was it was Bretts bad throw.

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Re: brett favre
 

I was on a work trip the week before the game and there were a couple of Favre acolytes there (one claimed to be a Bears fan?). I told them that he was way to careless with the ball in big games and that he'd throw a pick and cost them the game as usual. Just shows how much the media rides his jock that they all thought I was crazy.

I didn't need a crystal ball... Brett's 2 pick game was about par for the course.

Fun facts:

If you count only QBs with 10 or more playoff games, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records"]Brett is 17th in winning percentage[/URL] (he's barely above .500). Lower your games played threshold for inclusion and he drops lower.

Brett holds both the career playoff and regular season INT records.

Brett averages over 2 INTs/game in the playoffs. This has been slightly more pronounced since the two Super Bowl appearances.

Summary:

If you want to pick a guy to win a playoff game, he should not be mentioned in the same breath as Brady, Bradshaw, Aikman, Montana, Warner, Elway, Staubach.

If you want to have a guy that will always be around, always start, always be exciting, and almost always [I]get you to the playoffs[/I] he's your guy.

Great QB, great fun to watch, definitely an iron man, but not anywhere near top 5 all time.