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SolidSnake84 01-28-2010 09:22 AM

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Thinking about it all, i think we should try to incorporate some nostalgia. Sumo's design is a nice touch...especially the script on the sleeve.

To me, our current incarnation of white on white/ burgandy on burgandy, etc...is just a reminder of the epic fail that this franchise has been the last 2 years.

I agree with the other posters who feel that a jersey change is a nice way to refresh things and get us a different identity going forward....

Monkeydad 01-28-2010 11:21 AM

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Congrats on the recognition, Summo.

I've seen most of those since I'm an active member on the Chris Creamer logo site. Of all of them, I love the first one the most. Throwback + current set = that one, perfection. The set from "Yurk" is great too, but didn't show a helmet, so I'm assuming we'd keep the current one. Fine with me; it looks great, especially since they added the metallic a few years back.

Your graphical talent is great Summo, but it's too Nike-ish with the piping and too modern for my tastes. We have always had a classic look that I don't think we should stray too far from.

Last night on Redskins Nation, Matt Terl and Larry Michael confirmed nothing is officially in the works, it was just a rumor sparked from his post. :D

MTK 01-28-2010 11:26 AM

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Actually the rumor was floating around before Terl's post.

Monkeydad 01-28-2010 11:28 AM

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[URL="http://blog.redskins.com/2010/01/28/thursday-january-28-a-new-uniform-that-didnt-happen/"]Thursday, January 28: A New Uniform That Didn't Happen[/URL]

I truly hope we NEVER add a black jersey or incorporate black into our uniforms (except for the Indian's hair of course).

It's an trend that far too many teams in all sports started last decade and needs to end. Unnecessary black just to add black is pointless and usually looks bad. Only the Detroit Lions pulled it off decently. Let's keep our color scheme intact.

Look how hideous the Eagles look in their black jerseys. I don't want that to be us. We WOULD look bad in black.

The Mets are another example of black ruining uniforms.


Zorn would love these but I want to puke:
[IMG]http://redskinsblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/gameplancreative01.jpg[/IMG]

Monkeydad 01-28-2010 11:29 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;658820]Actually the rumor was floating around before Terl's post.[/quote]

It's always floating around. We have several threads a year about it. :sleep:

MTK 01-28-2010 11:31 AM

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No, this was a specific one. About a week ago a little bird told me a new "jersey" was in the works, not sure if this means a new full time jersey or if it's an alternate/throwback type. Just that something was definitely in the pipeline.

over the mountain 01-28-2010 01:02 PM

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[quote=Summo;658780]I just wanted to modernize the current uniform without going overboard. As I said before they have one of the classic logos and unis in the history of the NFL. If they are going to change they should be looking ahead not back i.e. the spear logo. I like the spear very much but it should be kept with the throw back uni's.

I also wanted to include the script "R" on the jersey. That logo has only been used on sideline apparel and never as part of the uniform. But I didn't want to over do it with logos.

There are two examples that I wanted to avoid with this design. The first being the Ravens. They have one logo on their helmet, a second on their sleeve and a third on their pants! It logo overload!!

The second is the Panthers, they have the same logo on their helmet, sleeve and pants and it looks ridiculous!

As for getting recognition form the team over the design, I doubt it. It probably won’t go any further then it already has. If they change the uni’s it will probably be something similar but it will be a little different from mine so that way they protect them selves from some fan claiming that they designed it, like the situation the Ravens had over their original helmet logo. Thanks to all for the kind comments.[/quote]

did you win or know the results for the "most displaced fan" video contest?

Summo 01-28-2010 01:34 PM

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[quote=over the mountain;658843]did you win or know the results for the "most displaced fan" video contest?[/quote]

No I dind't win or even place. A steeler fan living in Kentucky won. He sang a song as a Steeler zombie because his wife turned off his NFL Sunday ticket. I have a new plan for next years video that hopefully place.

Gtothearry 01-28-2010 03:43 PM

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I dig the CAB's.

BigHairedAristocrat 01-28-2010 03:45 PM

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If we ever get a new uniform, it either needs to:

1) be very retro and sport the traditional logo; or
2) Be very modern and NOT have the indian on the helmet

I just dont see the two mixing well. honestly, i'd prefer ditching the indian entirely and going with the cursive "R" or something else, such as a modified version of the arrow or something like that.

KLHJ2 01-28-2010 04:05 PM

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[quote=Buster;658821][URL="http://blog.redskins.com/2010/01/28/thursday-january-28-a-new-uniform-that-didnt-happen/"]Thursday, January 28: A New Uniform That Didn't Happen[/URL]

I truly hope we NEVER add a black jersey or incorporate black into our uniforms (except for the Indian's hair of course).

It's an trend that far too many teams in all sports started last decade and needs to end. Unnecessary black just to add black is pointless and usually looks bad. Only the Detroit Lions pulled it off decently. Let's keep our color scheme intact.

Look how hideous the Eagles look in their black jerseys. I don't want that to be us. We WOULD look bad in black.



The Mets are another example of black ruining uniforms.


Zorn would love these but I want to puke:
[/quote]

I thought that the Saints pulled it off nicely as well. I agree that it doesn't belong with burgandy and gold though.

Monkeydad 01-28-2010 04:15 PM

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Black is one of the Saints' primary colors though. They didn't add it for the sake if fitting it in somewhere.

I love black uniforms...if that's part of the team's color scheme.

What I'm talking about is how some teams add a dark color for the sake of an update, like the Dolphins with the navy blue drop shadows on their numbers a few years back, or the 49ers with the black or the Eagles with the black 3rd jerseys. (them or the Jets need to bring back Kelly Green!)

KLHJ2 01-28-2010 04:26 PM

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[quote=Summo;658853]No I dind't win or even place. A steeler fan living in Kentucky won. He sang a song as a Steeler zombie because his wife turned off his NFL Sunday ticket. I have a new plan for next years video that hopefully place.[/quote]


That video sucked. I'm not sure that I could have done better but someone could have.

Dirtbag59 01-28-2010 04:27 PM

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[quote=Buster;658821]
Zorn would love these but I want to puke:
[IMG]http://redskinsblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/gameplancreative01.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Ha ha, those are like the bastard children of the Buc's current uni's.

MTK 01-28-2010 05:41 PM

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[quote=Buster;658821][URL="http://blog.redskins.com/2010/01/28/thursday-january-28-a-new-uniform-that-didnt-happen/"]Thursday, January 28: A New Uniform That Didn't Happen[/URL]

I truly hope we NEVER add a black jersey or incorporate black into our uniforms (except for the Indian's hair of course).

It's an trend that far too many teams in all sports started last decade and needs to end. Unnecessary black just to add black is pointless and usually looks bad. Only the Detroit Lions pulled it off decently. Let's keep our color scheme intact.

Look how hideous the Eagles look in their black jerseys. I don't want that to be us. We WOULD look bad in black.

The Mets are another example of black ruining uniforms.


Zorn would love these but I want to puke:
[IMG]http://redskinsblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/gameplancreative01.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Yeah incorporating black into uniforms is so played out, I hate it too

wolfeskins 01-29-2010 02:52 PM

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adding black to the skins uni's would have been cool about 5 years ago, not now.

freddyg12 01-29-2010 03:47 PM

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[quote=wolfeskins;659099]adding black to the skins uni's would have been cool about 5 years ago, not now.[/quote]

I disagree w/the former & agree w/the latter. In short, Black in the Skins uni should've been considered a dead idea as soon as Zorn said "maroon and black!"

wolfeskins 01-29-2010 03:57 PM

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[quote=freddyg12;659121]I disagree w/the former & agree w/the latter. In short, Black in the Skins uni should've been considered a dead idea as soon as Zorn said "maroon and black!"[/quote]

so are you saying you've never liked the idea of adding black to the uniform (i'm not retarded,just slow. lol). i've never liked the idea,i'm just saying if it was gonna happen, it should have been years ago. to do it now would not be a smart move,imo.

tryfuhl 01-31-2010 03:38 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;658683]It's funny. Some are still stuck in the past and some are looking for the future. :)

I wonder which age group chooses the old look and which chooses a new look? Count me as an older fan looking for change.[/quote]

26 wanting the logo and colors to stay, if they want to freshen it up that's fine

tryfuhl 01-31-2010 03:39 PM

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[quote=LandrySlice;658753]I'm a fan of these, but I like the classic look... just no more burgandy on burgandy, BAD LOOK![/quote]
I like the burgundy on burgundy look.. it definitely doesn't come from the results that we had in them though

WaldSkins 01-31-2010 04:32 PM

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let's just go old school!

MPNRedskins 01-31-2010 05:38 PM

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Man, it's amazing how much a year can change things. Last year, I posted a thread about possibly changing the Redskins uniforms and I get scolded by a lot of people for wanting to change the look of our team. Ok, off my soapbox. :soapbox: I do like a lot of the jersey ideas posted on here, especially Summo. I think you will see a uniform change in the near future if fans keep talking about it. While the current unis are nice and were from the good ol' days, I think it's time to "spice things up" and have a fresh new look.

dmek25 02-14-2010 09:36 PM

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Shanahan, Allen talk Redskins uniform colors
Posted by Michael David Smith on February 14, 2010 6:51 PM ET
Redskins coach Mike Shanahan and General Manager Bruce Allen have a lot of big decisions ahead of them in rebuilding a franchise coming off a 4-12 season. And apparently there's no item too trivial to get Shanahan and Allen's attention.

Dan Steinberg of the Washington Post reports that Allen said on a recent episode of Redskins Nation that he and Shanahan have had discussions about the color schemes of the Redskins' uniforms.

"I'm very proud of the Redskins uniform, and I'm very proud of our helmet," Allen said. "I'm talking to Coach Shanahan about some ideas that we have of utilizing our colors that we're very proud of."

The bottom line is that the Redskins want to incorporate throwback uniforms, but they're not going to add black to their color scheme.

53Fan 02-14-2010 09:51 PM

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[quote=dmek25;663176]Shanahan, Allen talk Redskins uniform colors
Posted by Michael David Smith on February 14, 2010 6:51 PM ET
Redskins coach Mike Shanahan and General Manager Bruce Allen have a lot of big decisions ahead of them in rebuilding a franchise coming off a 4-12 season. And apparently there's no item too trivial to get Shanahan and Allen's attention.

Dan Steinberg of the Washington Post reports that [B]Allen said on a recent episode of Redskins Nation that he and Shanahan have had discussions about the color schemes of the Redskins' uniforms.[/B]

"I'm very proud of the Redskins uniform, and I'm very proud of our helmet," Allen said. "I'm talking to Coach Shanahan about some ideas that we have of utilizing our colors that we're very proud of."

The bottom line is that the Redskins want to incorporate throwback uniforms, but they're not going to add black to their color scheme.[/quote]
I saw that and it does sound like they may have some things in mind as far as the uniforms go. Allen said he was around when the helmet was designed.

skinsfaninok 02-14-2010 10:39 PM

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i'M ALL FOR A UNIFORM CHANGE.. Our jersey's are traditional but they are so bland.. Plus when you look good you play good lol

SBXVII 02-15-2010 12:07 AM

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I welcome the change. I have liked all the helmet designes... "arrow", "R", and the "indian head." I'm just bored with the white shirt burgundy pants and the burgundy shirt and white pants. I don't mind throw backs so long as there is a drastic upgrade or tweek to them. I simply can't see us wearing yellow pants with simple stripes again. Some people have put a feather on the side of them and they look awsome to me.

I'd still prefer if we went with a more traditional "gold" color. The yellow we wear is not the teams colors. I get so tired of people bending the truth by saying "well it's a shade of gold". No it's not it's yellow. Lets get back to gold. Go Google burgundy and gold and look at the images. It's beautiful unlike our burgundy and yellow.

Skinny Tee 02-15-2010 01:18 PM

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[quote=dmek25;663176]Shanahan, Allen talk Redskins uniform colors
Posted by Michael David Smith on February 14, 2010 6:51 PM ET
Redskins coach Mike Shanahan and General Manager Bruce Allen have a lot of big decisions ahead of them in rebuilding a franchise coming off a 4-12 season. And apparently there's no item too trivial to get Shanahan and Allen's attention.

Dan Steinberg of the Washington Post reports that Allen said on a recent episode of Redskins Nation that he and Shanahan have had discussions about the color schemes of the Redskins' uniforms.

"I'm very proud of the Redskins uniform, and I'm very proud of our helmet," Allen said. "I'm talking to Coach Shanahan about some ideas that we have of utilizing our colors that we're very proud of."

The bottom line is that the Redskins want to incorporate throwback uniforms, but they're not going to add black to their color scheme.[/quote]

It's not our uniforms that are keeping us from being a competitive football team.

If anything longstanding should change it should be our owner's lust for marquee players with no informed way of implementing them.

I'd take a change of that over any concern over what the hell we're wearing on Sundays. The topic of a uniform change from a front office perspective is about as pointless as knowing the team's ring sizes.

JLW428 02-15-2010 03:02 PM

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[quote=Skinny Tee;663222]It's not our uniforms that are keeping us from being a competitive football team.

If anything longstanding should change it should be our owner's lust for marquee players with no informed way of implementing them.

I'd take a change of that over any concern over what the hell we're wearing on Sundays. The topic of a uniform change from a front office perspective is about as pointless as knowing the team's ring sizes.[/quote]

I totally agree. The fact that BA and MS are actually spending time on this subject is ridiculous. You wan't to change the uniform - fine, but have your marketing/design/whatever other personel the Redskins have take care of it.

I don't care if we change the uniforms, but at least assign the responsibility to the proper people within the organization...not the people that should be focusing on football.

MTK 02-15-2010 03:36 PM

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Whatever changes would have to be signed off by the powers that be, so I don't see why they wouldn't be involved to some degree along the way.

JLW428 02-15-2010 04:01 PM

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Sure, they will be involved eventually, but in the design stage? I see them getting involved when its time to sign off on the ideas that have been set in stone. If they're involved at a level right now where they can be addressing the media over it - it's too much. IMO they should be worried about football right now, not cosmetics.

MTK 02-15-2010 04:05 PM

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I'm sure they've got the football side of things covered.

CRedskinsRule 02-15-2010 04:15 PM

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I doubt there is a lot of time being spent on uniforms by BA. Chances are his input has been what we already have heard. Uniforms should be traditional colors, keep the helmet, etc. But all of that falls under the purview of the GM, that is why it is hard to be a GM/Coach. I am confident BA can supervise, and add input when needed, without losing sight of the goal of building a championship caliber team.

SBXVII 02-15-2010 06:22 PM

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[quote=JLW428;663249]Sure, they will be involved eventually, but in the design stage? I see them getting involved when its time to sign off on the ideas that have been set in stone. If they're involved at a level right now where they can be addressing the media over it - it's too much. IMO they should be worried about football right now, not cosmetics.[/quote]

None of us know how far along in the design stage they are already in. Allen said he and Shanahan had some designs or ideas they wanted or needed to float by Snyder. Either they were asked by DS to come up with some ideas or they came up with some on there own and wanted to pass them along.

If we were talking about JGibbs doing this after his decade being gone I'd be worried, but I think Shanahan knew he was going to come back, knew he would need a plan for which ever team he ended up with in regards to training and camps as well as a playbook. The only thing he needs to do is incorperate any plays his son wants added. He's picked up his coach's. Now is time to look at FA's and the college kids. Taking a little break and looking at uniforms will not hurt the team.

Skinny Tee 02-15-2010 06:57 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;663284]None of us know how far along in the design stage they are already in. Allen said he and Shanahan had some designs or ideas they wanted or needed to float by Snyder. Either they were asked by DS to come up with some ideas or they came up with some on there own and wanted to pass them along.

If we were talking about JGibbs doing this after his decade being gone I'd be worried, but I think Shanahan knew he was going to come back, knew he would need a plan for which ever team he ended up with in regards to training and camps as well as a playbook. The only thing he needs to do is incorperate any plays his son wants added. He's picked up his coach's. Now is time to look at FA's and the college kids. [B]Taking a little break and looking at uniforms will not hurt the team[/B].[/quote]

Nor will it distract me into thinking this is some new fangled team without gaping holes with, at best, a three year plan until it sees success.

mlmdub130 02-15-2010 07:10 PM

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[quote=Skinny Tee;663290][B]Nor will it distract me into thinking this is some new fangled team without gaping holes with, at best, a three year plan until it sees success[/B].[/quote]

couldn't have said it better myself, but i swear to god if i see them come out in all burgundy :madani:

tryfuhl 02-15-2010 07:17 PM

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I love the all burgundy, just not the experiences that've come with it.

53Fan 02-15-2010 07:28 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;663255]I doubt there is a lot of time being spent on uniforms by BA. Chances are his input has been what we already have heard. Uniforms should be traditional colors, keep the helmet, etc. But all of that falls under the purview of the GM, that is why it is hard to be a GM/Coach. I am confident BA can supervise, and add input when needed, without losing sight of the goal of building a championship caliber team.[/quote]

Well that's just crazy man. We're doomed! Can't you see that!!!

JLW428 02-15-2010 07:38 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;663250]I'm sure they've got the football side of things covered.[/quote]

I wouldn't be so sure...:cool-smil

DCtoAZ 02-15-2010 09:50 PM

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All burgandy rules .... I like rockin' the all burgandy with the yellow helmets when I play Madden 10' ... they look buck nasty

BigHairedAristocrat 02-16-2010 10:20 AM

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I just hope we get something more modern and something that gets rid of the indian on the helmet. i also hope that we don't just use the new jersey as a throwback for a couple of games, but we have "permanent" new home, alternate and away jerseys.


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