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Basically in Clausen, I see a sound prospect (more sound than Bradford) that is a medium efficiency player (like Cutler, McNabb, Campbell, Flacco) who makes a lot of bad plays (more in the past than in 2009) and isn't really tuned in to the quarterback minutae that can seperate the franchise players from the expendable players. For a team that doesn't have any sort of passing game, he's a major upgrade, and for those (like Washington) who have an efficient passing game that needs an extra boost to get over that hump, he's not the part that will get you there.

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Nicely written article GTripp! I agree that in this particular draft class, the best QB may turn out to be one taken after the top three are gone. I don't see either one being worth the risk of a #4 pick. They MAY turn out great, but IMO they have just as much chance of being the 3rd or 4th best QB's chosen in this draft.

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The debate between Clausen and Bradford as the potential first round pick of the Skins is a ho-hummer to me. That's because I'm not convinced that any QB in this draft is worth a first round pick to the Skins.

I haven't been a supporter of Jason Campbell as our starting QB but the way he handled all of the adversity that was heaped on him last season and still had his best season has made me reconsider. I now think that he might be just fine as our starting QB.

I'd prefer to see us trade down in the first round and pick up another first day pick. Then I'd like to see us take a QB in the second round. I like either Zac Robinson or Tim Tebow.

I've never seen Robinson have a bad game. He is a very accurate passer, he's got good size, and he's athletic enough for the NFL. I like him a lot.

And I love Tim Tebow as a developmental QB. He is a winner. He's an unbelieveable physical specimen and a top athlete. He reminds me a lot of Big Ben in the way he can shake off tacklers and buy time to make big plays downfield. I think Tebow could be outstanding after a couple of years as a backup. Nobody will study more or work harder than Tim Tebow.

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I'm hoping to go o-line with our top 2 picks, and use a later round pick on a QB to groom for the future. This draft has good depth along the OL so we could easily come out of it with 2 rookie starters at the very least.

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[quote=GTripp0012;658972]adverse conditions = when his team is not the decisive advantage. So, you'd throw out the Washington State game, throw out the Purdue game, the Nevada game, the 200(9) Hawaii Bowl. Specifically, I'm looking at those Boston College games and Navy games when Clausen struggles to adjust to teams that take away the deep ball and make him throw underneath. His inability to sustain drives.[/quote]I didn't get to see the BC and Navy games this year, but his numbers looked pretty good. I know in the Navy game he made a couple of key turnovers (fumble/INT), but I wouldn't discount the season he had for two bad plays in the Navy game. This certainly wasn't his trend this year.

[quote]Freely admitting that this is something he got better with over time, Clausen has a tendency to have second half struggles against teams who can adjust to whatever Weis wanted to attack them with in the first half. I think it was a big part of ND's end-of-year swoon, personally. Not as big as the defensive woes, obviously, [B]but Clausens efficiency certainly declined in the second half of the season[/B].[/quote]His numbers don't show that. He had 2 INTs in the first half of the season and 2 in the second half. His Comp % was better in the second half of the year. His QB rating was 177.83 in the first half if you include the Nevada game when he threw 18 passes / 4TDs / 0 INTs. It was 152.80, not including that game. In the second half of the year his QB rating was 162.

[quote]But basically, my concerns with him are that his 62% completion percentage doesn't really off-set the negatives you have to take when you draft him. I think if he completed 67% of his passes at ND, then yeah, he'd be franchise QB material despite a high sack rate and mediocre win percentage. At 62% and 34 college starts, that's first round quality, but not anything we haven't seen in the past.[/quote]You're looking at overall career 62% completion %, but if you look at his Junior season he completed 68% of his passes. So based on that, you agree that he's franchise QB material, correct?

Well written article, I don't agree with the assessment of Clausen, but the article was very good.

I posted these in another thread, Matt McGuire hits the nail on the head in his evaluation of Clausen IMO.

[URL="http://walterfootball.com/mattblog091229.php"]WalterFootball.com: The NFL Matt Draft - Matt McGuire's NFL Draft Blog[/URL]

[URL="http://walterfootball.com/draftmailbag2010_clausen2.php"]WalterFootball.com: 2010 NFL Draft Mailbag[/URL]

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[quote=Mattyk;659031]I'm hoping to go o-line with our top 2 picks, and use a later round pick on a QB to groom for the future. This draft has good depth along the OL so we could easily come out of it with 2 rookie starters at the very least.[/quote]

Trade down pick a highly rated OT and then go for Iupati followed by either RB or QB.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;659054]Trade down pick a highly rated OT and then go for Iupati followed by either RB or QB.[/quote]

I'm all for trading down providing we can find a partner, unless they think Russell Okung is the man at #4. I relish the idea of the extra pick (s).

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From what I've seen of Clausen, I'd agree with Matt McGuire that he is the most NFL-ready QB in the draft. I wasn't aware of how well his numbers compare to the college Jr. year numbers of some of the top NFL QB's. That is very impressive.

The one criticism of Clausen I don't understand is the complaint that he is cocky. I like athletic arrogance, especially in a QB. If the complaint were that he is so cocky that he is too full of himself to work hard and improve himself as a player, then I would understand. But it's not. It's just that he's cocky. Joe Theismann was a cocky NFL QB and he was also a good one.

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[quote=Mattyk;659031]I'm hoping to go o-line with our top 2 picks, and use a later round pick on a QB to groom for the future. This draft has good depth along the OL so we could easily come out of it with 2 rookie starters at the very least.[/quote]The NFL is a QB league, if we can get a franchise QB, we've got to get him. If we look at the Conference championships, who are the QBs; Manning, Brees, Favre, Sanchez (#1 D, #1 Rushing O). Look at the division round; Warner, Rivers, Flacco (excellent D, excellent run game), Romo (Cowpuke, he just sucks and is the exception). So unless a team can build a dominant defense and develop a dominant running game, a franchise-type QB is needed to win in the playoffs.

The only franchise QB in this draft IMO is Clausen. If STL grabs him, then we definitely go OL or trade down and get even more OL and help elsewhere.

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We needed a new thread for this?

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Can say i wasn't happy with the last couple years in ND, but heres my .02 for Clausen since i watched every minute of every game. Somewhat mobile, can throw the deep out, has played through great adversity. Granted he had GREAT receivers but it helped he didn't have too many ints. He might not have won them all, but countless times brought team back in games when they fell behind early.

Even then i don't want a qb first round. After unless Brennan isn't coming back i see no need to draft qb in later rounds.

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[quote=Zerohero;659068]Can say i wasn't happy with the last couple years in ND, but heres my .02 for Clausen since i watched every minute of every game. Somewhat mobile, can throw the deep out, has played through great adversity. Granted he had GREAT receivers but it helped he didn't have too many ints. He might not have won them all, but countless times brought team back in games when they fell behind early.

Even then i don't want a qb first round. After unless Brennan isn't coming back i see no need to draft qb in later rounds.[/quote]

People keep saying that Clausen had great receivers, in actuality I think that Clausen was the one who made them great. In all the highlight films I've seen on him, especially the TD passes, he showed top notch ball placement and anticipation. The only person who had a chance to catch those passes were his receivers.

On TD passes most college QB's that are highly regarded seem to throw to guys that are wide open half the time. With Clausen I'm seeing him make those same throws except in his case the receivers are covered. In the end thats the thing that makes me excited about Clausen. Not only is he able to thread the needle into coverage but he also didn't throw many INT's while doing it. I think he's good for 25 TD passes a year in the NFL. Especially if Shannahan gets a hold of him.

I mean look at this. Compare last years #1 pick Stafford to Clausen. Just look at how open Staffords receivers are compared to Clausen, especially on TD passes. (Also notice how many of Staffords TD passes are against poor SEC coverage).

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In the meantime I want to see if Bradford had to make the same throws against tight coverage. I mean it just impresses me how many difficult completions Clausen is able to complete. Especially passes on the outs and by the sidelines.

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Are you saying the wr's weren't good, with all due respect Golden Tate is All American. Countless times he had to fight for ball and came up with it. Clausen threw great passes, but he had great receivers too. Though he was hurt most year which really killed us, Floyd was thought to be better then Tate.

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[quote=Zerohero;659075][B]Are you saying the wr's weren't good, with all due respect Golden Tate is All American[/B]. Countless times he had to fight for ball and came up with it. Clausen threw great passes, but he had great receivers too. Though he was hurt most year which really killed us, Floyd was thought to be better then Tate.[/quote]

No not at all. But Clausen didn't have Golden Tate all year and was still able to put up numbers. Tate made very good catches but they were very well placed by Clausen. A lot of times Tate was covered very well and there was usually only a small window for Clausen to thread the needle, which many times he did. Credit goes to Tate for making those catches but very rarely were Clausen's receivers wide open deep, like you see in Staffords video. Tate did though have some amazing YAC catches though, I will give him that.

I mean how many times have we've seen it in the NFL. Great Receiver goes to a team with mediocre QB play and suddenly he can barely break 900 yards while getting something like 30% of his teams throws. By nature receivers are much more dependent on their QB for production then QB's are on their receivers. So just as a rule of thumb I'm more willing to give credit to the QB long before I give credit to the receiver.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;659072]
In the meantime I want to see if Bradford had to make the same throws against tight coverage. I mean it just impresses me how many difficult completions Clausen is able to complete. Especially passes on the outs and by the sidelines.[/quote]

thats what ive noticed too. ive been watching alot of highlight reels of the top qbs and with bradford it seemed every pass he was in shotgun, had tons of time and was throwing to wide open receivers. now im not saying every throw he made was to a wide open guy or that without a doubt clausen is better but it was something i took note of. also, this is just my own impression from watching youtube clips and reading draft experts opinions.

with clausen it seemed he made more tough throws in tighter coverage which is the reality in the nfl.

just watching that spread shotgun offense makes it hard for me to see how bradfords game will translate to the nfl compared to clausen.

OL, bradford, clausen suh berry, trade back . . . whatever allen and shanny think is best is better than any outside opinion i could have.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;659062][B]The NFL is a QB league, if we can get a franchise QB, we've got to get him.[/B] If we look at the Conference championships, who are the QBs; Manning, Brees, Favre, Sanchez (#1 D, #1 Rushing O). Look at the division round; Warner, Rivers, Flacco (excellent D, excellent run game), Romo (Cowpuke, he just sucks and is the exception). So unless a team can build a dominant defense and develop a dominant running game, a franchise-type QB is needed to win in the playoffs.

The only franchise QB in this draft IMO is Clausen. If STL grabs him, then we definitely go OL or trade down and get even more OL and help elsewhere.[/quote]

I agree, but is someone like Clausen or Bradford a true franchise type? I think that's up for debate, neither seem like slam dunks. So if that's the case I'd rather build the line and look for a later round gem to develop. I hear what you're saying about winning games in the playoffs but let's not get ahead of ourselves here, a quality OL is an important piece of the puzzle too.

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[quote=Mattyk;659084]I agree, but [B]is someone like Clausen or Bradford a true franchise type[/B]? I think that's up for debate, neither seem like slam dunks. So if that's the case I'd rather build the line and look for a later round gem to develop.[/quote]Deciding that is why Shanny and Allen are getting paid seven figures per year. Get it right and we're looking at playoffs in 2011/12. Get it wrong and we're stuck in 8-8 mode or worse for a while.

[quote] I hear what you're saying about winning games in the playoffs but let's not get ahead of ourselves here, a quality OL is an important piece of the puzzle too.[/quote]Agreed 100%. Even if we get Clausen, we need to spend our 2nd & 4th on OL. Hopefully we can work some type of trade along the way to pick up a 3rd too. But if Clausen's gone, then build the OL now.

But let's say he's there and we pass on Clausen to build the OL, when do we get the franchise QB? If our OL is better, we aren't picking in the top 5-10 in 2011 and Locker & Luck won't last that long next year.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;659079]No not at all. But Clausen didn't have Golden Tate all year and was still able to put up numbers.[/quote]

Actually it was Michael Floyd who missed a few games (who's equally awesome by the way).

[quote]By nature receivers are much more dependent on their QB for production thenQB's are on their receivers.[/quote]

Exactly, place Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon on the Redksins with JC and see how well they do!

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;659115]Deciding that is why Shanny and Allen are getting paid seven figures per year. Get it right and we're looking at playoffs in 2011/12. Get it wrong and we're stuck in 8-8 mode or worse for a while.

Agreed 100%. Even if we get Clausen, we need to spend our 2nd & 4th on OL. Hopefully we can work some type of trade along the way to pick up a 3rd too. But if Clausen's gone, then build the OL now.

But let's say he's there and we pass on Clausen to build the OL, when do we get the franchise QB?[B] If our OL is better, we aren't picking in the top 5-10 in 2011[/B] and Locker & Luck won't last that long next year.[/quote]

That's what we're hoping Sammy. ;) With a strong o-line we may find we can do just fine with the QB we have and groom someone from the 4th round, who could turn out to be very good.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;659045]You're looking at overall career 62% completion %, but if you look at his Junior season he completed 68% of his passes. So based on that, you agree that he's franchise QB material, correct? [/quote]Right, but a players best college season tends to be his least predictive year. It's the reason that college one-year wonders hardly ever make it in the NFL. JaMarcus Russell had a 69% completion percentage as a junior at LSU. Of course, three receivers and a runner from that LSU team (not to mention a lineman) are in the NFL and contributing (well, except for Buster Davis).

Russell is an extreme example, it doesn't take much digging to see exactly where Clausen's a much more solid prospect. You look at Clausen in the most adverse conditions, that 2007 season, and you can see that though he wasn't that polished as a player, he held up his end of the bargin that year. His statistics show that. It's the Jason Campbell argument, "yeah the team sucks, but as an individual, the performance was there." And clearly, he can play through injury.

I would have liked to see Clausen come back for his senior season and work on getting rid of the ball quicker because he does have a very high college sack rate (6.7%), and for guys who play big-time competition, that number tends to remain pretty static from college to the pros. Then again, I think he's ready enough, if he lands in the right spot.

As an ND fan, for his sake, I hope he doesn't end up here. He won't be successful, even with Shanahan. He'd be the ideal pick for Denver or Arizona or Minnesota. Those are places he could go and win as early as this year. St. Louis could at least build around him. Here, and in Buffalo, there just isn't much in the offensive cupboard to work with for any quarterback.

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i don't know what round it will be but i think it's a sure bet that shanny will take a qb in this years draft.

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[quote=GTripp0012;659141]

Russell is an extreme example, it doesn't take much digging to see exactly where Clausen's a much more solid prospect. You look at Clausen in the most adverse conditions, that 2007 season, and you can see that though he wasn't that polished as a player, he held up his end of the bargin that year. His statistics show that. It's the Jason Campbell argument, "yeah the team sucks, but as an individual, the performance was there." And clearly, he can play through injury.
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Russell was pretty bad. Even I knew that he was going to be horrible. Scared the crap out of me when I saw we brought him in for a pre-draft interview.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;659155]Russell was pretty bad. Even I knew that he was going to be horrible. Scared the crap out of me when I saw we brought him in for a pre-draft interview.[/quote]Yeah, I'm right there with you. I didn't ever think, until about two days before the draft, that the Raiders were actually going to draft Russell. I thought they were going with Quinn or Calvin Johnson. Kiffin didn't think Russell could play. Davis STILL thinks Russell will be just fine.

But I know that we might have gone that route if JaMarcus had been available. Thankfully he wasn't.

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[quote=over the mountain;659082]

just watching that spread shotgun offense makes it hard for me to see how bradfords game will translate to the nfl compared to clausen.

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Just learned that Bradford ran a pro style offense during 2007, the year he was a Redshirt Freshman. Bradfords numbers that year were 36 TD's 8 Ints and a 176.52 QB Rating.

[quote]Summary: The statistics are there and he has operated in a pro-style offense as a freshman. He does throw pro routes, however, he WILL get nitpicked. Matt Leinart was nitpicked. Aaron Rodgers was nitpicked. Brady Quinn was nitpicked. Bradford won't have any challenges this season, so scouts and draftniks will find the flaws. Bradford is a top-20 pick, but don't be shocked if he doesn't go as high as we expect (Top 5) next April.

Player Comparison: Eli Manning. Like Eli, Bradford lacks the elite arm, but he is a superb decision-maker with great accuracy and decision-making. Both have limited upside.
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If you want to see Bradford under Center look no further then this video. To be honest we'll be very lucky if he falls to the fourth spot.

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^ Good find. Very interesting.

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I am officially on the draft Bradford bandwagon.

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[quote=GTripp0012;659141]As an ND fan, for his sake, I hope he doesn't end up here. He won't be successful, even with Shanahan. He'd be the ideal pick for Denver or Arizona or Minnesota. Those are places he could go and win as early as this year. St. Louis could at least build around him. [B]Here, and in Buffalo, there just isn't much in the offensive cupboard to work with for any quarterback[/B].[/quote]That's why JC stays around for 2010 and Clausen can sit for at least the first half of the year (or until 2011) when the OL situation is stabilized a bit.

If we get him, I certainly don't expect Clausen to be a difference maker for us in 2010. I think it's doubtful he gets past STL anyway.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;658910]I still say trade down and and get one of the OT and Iupati, then a QB.[/quote]

Mike Iupati has gained some much during Bowl practices. Better yet, he is an OG at Idaho, but most NFL analysts believes he can easily be converted to OT.

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[quote=PennSkinsFan;659204]Mike Iupati has gained some much during Bowl practices. Better yet, he is an OG at Idaho, but most NFL analysts believes he can easily be converted to OT.[/quote]

Iupati is a "Road grader"/"Wheat Combine". He looks like a mauler, reminds me Tre Johnson. I hope we draft him.

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[quote=PennSkinsFan;659204]Mike Iupati has gained some much during Bowl practices. Better yet, he is an OG at Idaho, [B]but most NFL analysts believes he can easily be converted to OT.[/B][/quote]

I've repeatedly read the opposite: that he is much better at guard and should stay there.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;659202]That's why JC stays around for 2010 and Clausen can sit for at least the first half of the year (or until 2011) when the OL situation is stabilized a bit.

If we get him, I certainly don't expect Clausen to be a difference maker for us in 2010. I think it's doubtful he gets past STL anyway.[/quote]

I'm just trying to figure out what we do with a QB drafted at #4 with the current state of the O-line. The price you pay (espically for a QB) drafted at #4 is far too enormous for a player whose going to sit on the bench for a year, and with the uncertainty of the CBA and the NFL future beyond 2010. You certainly can't play him with this bunch we have now, neither can you afford to sit him.

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[quote=Longtimefan;659255]I'm just trying to figure out what we do with a QB drafted at #4 with the current state of the O-line. The price you pay (espically for a QB) drafted at #4 is far too enormous for a player whose going to sit on the bench for a year, and with the uncertainty of the CBA and the NFL future beyond 2010. You certainly can't play him with this bunch we have now, neither can you afford to sit him.[/quote]Phillip Rivers sat for a couple of years and that turned out OK. If we tender JC a mid-level offer, his contract won't break the bank, Clausen (JC2 ??? LOL) would only sit for no more than a year so we'd be fine. I'm sure once the new CBA is completed contracts done this off-season will somehow be "grandfathered", so if there's a new salary cap, a big QB contract won't kill it.

If we need to play Clausen now, he played behind a mediocre OL this year at ND anyway. I have confidence in Shanahan-Allen rebuilding the OL to a point where it's not the sieve it was in 2009. Clausen will be OK.

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[quote=Lotus;659254]I've repeatedly read the opposite: that he is much better at guard and should stay there.[/quote]

Sort of makes me think of a rich man versions of Chad Rinehart. When Rinehart came out we thought, "oh, this is great, he might even be able to play Center." Turns out he was really only suited to play Guard. And just now on NFLN I heard them suggest that Ipuati could even play Center. In the end he'll probably just end up at Guard.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;659257][B]Phillip Rivers sat for a couple of years and that turned out OK. [/B]If we tender JC a mid-level offer, his contract won't break the bank, Clausen (JC2 ??? LOL) would only sit for no more than a year so we'd be fine. I'm sure once the new CBA is completed contracts done this off-season will somehow be "grandfathered", so if there's a new salary cap, a big QB contract won't kill it.

If we need to play Clausen now, he played behind a mediocre OL this year at ND anyway. I have confidence in Shanahan-Allen rebuilding the OL to a point where it's not the sieve it was in 2009. Clausen will be OK.[/quote]

When you say 'OK' do you mean like Rivers is serviceable or are you underselling it?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;659261]When you say 'OK' do you mean like Rivers is serviceable or are you underselling it?[/quote]Big time undersell, I had Rivers on my fantasy team this year and won it all. :)

If we pick Clausen and he performs at a Phillip Rivers level, I'm pretty sure 95% of us will be doing cartwheels. The other 5% would have to be ND haters.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;659186]Just learned that Bradford ran a pro style offense during 2007, the year he was a Redshirt Freshman. Bradfords numbers that year were 36 TD's 8 Ints and a 176.52 QB Rating.



If you want to see Bradford under Center look no further then this video. To be honest we'll be very lucky if he falls to the fourth spot.

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watching that video it seems it shows only the ok v miami game and i didint see many passes from under center. play action yes. ive tried to find a bradford highlight reel for '07 but couldnt find one. did find a real interesting behind the scenes type video of bradford. top 10 percent in his class, plays the chelo, seems like he really has his head on straight which is the first and most important aspect when looking to add a 1st or 2nd round talent imo.

bradford or clausen or okung or suh or trade back ... alls good to me. but im an excited to take a chance on a potential franchise qb while we are sitting in the no 4 spot. honestly, drafting no 4 overall doesnt happen very often for us since weve been a .500 ball club forever. id like us to take a shot at qb at a legit no 1 prospect, not the 3rd qb taken in the 1st round like JC and ramsey.

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Sam Bradford = Alex Smith!! Stay away from him, far far away!!! If we take a QB it needs to be Clausen, no question about it.

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Who would you rather have?
Bradford: [url]http://www.sportsosphere.com/pics/sam_bradford_heisman.gif[/url]

Clausen: [url]http://collateral.jezebelmagazine.com/FileLibrary/events/MostEligible2008/HollyClausen_profile.jpg[/url]

Sorry ;)

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Ok, the joke would have been funnier had it put the girls name up:

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[quote=SBXVII;660070]Ok, the joke would have been funnier had it put the girls name up:

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