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mredskins 02-01-2010 04:10 PM

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Am I the only one here that speed reads the title of this thread and instantly thinks it is about boobs. LOL!

DIE-NASTY 02-01-2010 04:24 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;659623]if/when the cap is reinstated, teams would probably just be fined in some way (hopefully just cash and not draft picks) for being out of compliance. i mean, i don't see how the NFL could force teams to cut players to get under a cap in a CBA that wasn't in existence when the players were signed.

ideally, i'd like to see us use the majority (if not all) of our draft picks this year to focus on offense. defensively, we already have a few players who can help us in a 3-4. There should be quite a few free agents who could help us there. in 2011, we can then draft some guys for added depth on defense.

on a side note, if we do switch to a 3-4, would Orakpo have to change his jersey number since he would be a full-time LB?[/quote]

Armstead worn 98.

BigHairedAristocrat 02-01-2010 04:32 PM

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;659680]I read the article a few days ago when Jason Reid put it on Insider.

Still leaves the question whether AH's heart would really be in playing nose tackle... (although the "stunting nose tackle" action seems to fit him well -- for a couple of plays at a time, of course)

Would there be a problem of Wilfork and AH playing side by side? (other than the cost, of course:)[/quote]

The #1 player our team needs if we switch to a 3-4 is a NT. Sure, AH could play NT, but it would be a horrible waste of his talent. from everything i've read, AH would be best used as a DE in a 3-4 defense. Wilfork is your prototypical NT. i'm nowhere near an expert, but i dont see how there would be any problem with having these two play side-by-side.

GTripp0012 02-01-2010 07:16 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;659688]The #1 player our team needs if we switch to a 3-4 is a NT. Sure, AH could play NT, but it would be a horrible waste of his talent. from everything i've read, AH would be best used as a DE in a 3-4 defense. Wilfork is your prototypical NT. i'm nowhere near an expert, but i dont see how there would be any problem with having these two play side-by-side.[/quote]Why would be playing a great player at a critical position be a terrible waste of his talent?

Dallas plays a one-gap 3-4 system which is easily transferrable into a 4-3 or 4-2-5, and Jay Ratliff, one of the best three DTs in the game, plays the nose for them. He's not out there eating up three gaps with pure size, but he is [I]controlling[/I] multiple gaps and playing his game in the backfield.

If Dallas moved Ratliff to the 5-techinque, he'd probably do just fine there, but he'd be further away from the football and playing the run more directly based on positioning, and probably wouldn't have quite the same effect on the game. Ratliff was a superstar on that defense before DeMarcus Ware was a complete player, and before Marcus Spears, Mike Jenkins, and Anthony Spencer all broke out. But he only got a chance because Dallas wasn't afraid to put him in a spot where, traditionally, the NT is a little bigger. Not that he's some twig out there at 305.

Haynesworth is absolutely athletic enough to play a 5-technique in the 3-4, but he certainly projects as a nose tackle, independent to the talent around him. I'm sure he'd play both in any 3-4 alignment, but it's not like this team has a great need for a superstar backup NT. Any old vet would fill a gap just fine. And then you could get someone cheap in the 5th round to split time. Not a big investment, but you're using what you have instead of overspending.

The nose tackle/defensive tackle market is really deep this year, and the draft might be even deeper. Locking into Wilfork against everything would be ignoring the market conditions to the 100th power, but more importantly, would be the epitomy of telling the other 31 (30?) owners that we'd be uninterested in ever playing with a cap again, since we can support a 300 million dollar payroll, and they (mostly) can't.

MTK 02-01-2010 07:32 PM

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Going after Wilfork when we already have enough capable d-lineman would be extreme overkill.

HugeMonkFan 02-01-2010 09:25 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;659710]Going after Wilfork when we already have enough capable d-lineman would be extreme overkill.[/quote]

i agree i would rather see us go after Peppers and then sure up our offense in the draft. the only possitions i could say maybe look at are lb depth since we will be going to a 3-4 and some CB help. the rest BETTER be offensive help. i hope to see us take a lineman [read: Okung] with the number 4 pick over Bradford...i am not sold on that kid. we can wait and get someone like Kafka. Im fine with giving JC his shot and letting the rook hold the clipboard until they feel he is ready or if JC is really just struggling.

Pocket$ $traight 02-01-2010 11:00 PM

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I think getting Wilfork would be a waste of money but I would have no problem with Peppers. I have no problem paying unique players big money. Peppers is arguably the best pure athlete in the NFL. Carolina used to split him out as a reciever every now and then. Billy Packer questioned whether he was the best two way athlete in NCAA history. He played basketball as a hobby and would easily have been a first round pick.



The guy is absolutely a freak of nature. Also, I heard rumors he wanted to go to Dallas. I really don't want to see that...

CultBrennan59 02-02-2010 12:30 AM

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;659728]I think getting Wilfork would be a waste of money but I would have no problem with Peppers. I have no problem paying unique players big money. Peppers is arguably the best pure athlete in the NFL. Carolina used to split him out as a reciever every now and then. Billy Packer questioned whether he was the best two way athlete in NCAA history. He played basketball as a hobby and would easily have been a first round pick.



The guy is absolutely a freak of nature. Also, I heard rumors he wanted to go to Dallas. I really don't want to see that...[/quote]

They have spencer and of course ware, don't worry I highly highly doubt it would happen

SBXVII 02-02-2010 01:28 AM

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Some people are suggesting on other boards going after defense in FA and pick up offense in the draft. Peppers being one of the names thrown around. Go look at other teams sites also and you'll see the same comments seen here....."We gotta get Peppers", "Peppers would make us a whole lot better", "We need Peppers." LOL.
[url=http://boards.houstontexans.com/showthread.php?t=16511]The Texans need to go after Peppers ASAP - Houston Texans Message Boards[/url]

Here's some FA/RFA OT's:
[url=http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2010&nid=83&lnid=83&rc=16&pid=3]Scout.com: 2010 NFL Free Agency OT Rankings[/url]

FA/RFA OG's:
[url=http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2010&nid=83&lnid=83&rc=16&pid=6]Scout.com: 2010 NFL Free Agency OG Rankings[/url]

C's:
[url=http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2010&nid=83&lnid=83&rc=16&pid=9]Scout.com: 2010 NFL Free Agency C Rankings[/url]

I know we don't need any WR's, but I can't help wondering since there is no CAP and if we shed some big contracts what Antonio Bryant and Kevin Walter would look like on this team? I'd get rid of ARE and possibly Moss. Why not get younger here also since we are talking about it at RB? Could you see Bryant, Walter, Thomas, Kelly, Mitchell? I could. Both Bryant and Walter worked with Kyle Shanahan in the past. Plus he knows what they can do.

53Fan 02-02-2010 06:57 AM

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^ And the top ranked FA QB? Drum roll please...........Jason Campbell! Someone tell me again why we should draft a QB with our #4 pick instead of Russell Okung?

Ruhskins 02-02-2010 09:23 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;659732]Some people are suggesting on other boards going after defense in FA and pick up offense in the draft. Peppers being one of the names thrown around. Go look at other teams sites also and you'll see the same comments seen here....."We gotta get Peppers", "Peppers would make us a whole lot better", "We need Peppers." LOL.
[url=http://boards.houstontexans.com/showthread.php?t=16511]The Texans need to go after Peppers ASAP - Houston Texans Message Boards[/url]

Here's some FA/RFA OT's:
[url=http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2010&nid=83&lnid=83&rc=16&pid=3]Scout.com: 2010 NFL Free Agency OT Rankings[/url]

FA/RFA OG's:
[url=http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2010&nid=83&lnid=83&rc=16&pid=6]Scout.com: 2010 NFL Free Agency OG Rankings[/url]

C's:
[url=http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2010&nid=83&lnid=83&rc=16&pid=9]Scout.com: 2010 NFL Free Agency C Rankings[/url]

I know we don't need any WR's, but I can't help wondering since there is no CAP and if we shed some big contracts what Antonio Bryant and Kevin Walter would look like on this team? I'd get rid of ARE and possibly Moss. Why not get younger here also since we are talking about it at RB? Could you see Bryant, Walter, Thomas, Kelly, Mitchell? I could. Both Bryant and Walter worked with Kyle Shanahan in the past. Plus he knows what they can do.[/quote]

It seems like the top prospects on these three lists who are not RFAs are Chad Clifton (OT - Green Bay), Duke Preston (C - Dallas), and Chester Pitts (OG - Texans). I wonder if having K. Shanahan on staff would make it possible to get Pitts from the Texans.

Another Guard that we could pick up would be Ben Hamilton who plays with Denver. With McD purging all of Shanny's players, I'm sure they'll let him walk.

Looking at these three lists makes think that we need to pick up a first round lineman. A lot of the UFAs at the minimum have been on the league for 8 years, many of them are in their 30s. While we don't need a whole line of 21 year olds, I think we need our young stud lineman of the future.

Meks 02-02-2010 10:27 AM

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3 - 4 .... personally i dont like it and i think its a mistake.

cuz once again, Orakpo will more than likely NOT be on the line full time.

why can;t people just get it throught thier heads. play the F@3#$#N kid at his natural position if u want to maximize his out-put.

Bushead 02-02-2010 10:29 AM

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[quote=Meks;659764]3 - 4 .... personally i dont like it and i think its a mistake.

cuz once again, Orakpo will more than likely NOT be on the line full time.

why can;t people just get it throught thier heads. play the F@3#$#N kid at his natural position if u want to maximize his out-put.[/quote]

How many of his sacks came from a LB position and how many came from him being on the Line? I've wondered this every time the argument has come up.

Slingin Sammy 33 02-02-2010 11:15 AM

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[quote=53Fan;659747]^ And the top ranked FA QB? Drum roll please...........Jason Campbell! Someone tell me again why we should draft a QB with our #4 pick instead of Russell Okung?[/quote]Because JC is not a franchise-type QB. You rarely, if ever, get a chance to draft a franchise QB. If one falls to us (Clausen, yes / Bradford, no) then he must be taken. Otherwise Okung or whoever Shanahan/Allen feels is the best fit at LT, or trade down if we get good value for the pick.

Slingin Sammy 33 02-02-2010 11:38 AM

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[quote=Bushead;659766]How many of his sacks came from a LB position and how many came from him being on the Line? I've wondered this every time the argument has come up.[/quote]The 4 against Oak, 1 at Det, and 1 vs Tampa were all from DE. I haven't been able to find info on the others.

BigHairedAristocrat 02-02-2010 11:53 AM

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personally, i'm hoping we upgrade at EVERY position in FA so that we have atleast "serviceable" starters at every starting spot. This would allow us to enter the draft being able to draft BPA at each slot and also give us more freedom to trade up or down throughout the draft to fill as many needs as possible.

With that in mind, i would be perfectly happy if we sign a number of FAs who are in their 30s. We can't fill every glaring need on our roster with a draft pick this year, anyways. I'm fine picking up 3-4 zoneblocking linemen and a NT or LB in their 30s... as long as we don't trade any draft picks to get them. if we keep our picks, we'll have enough young depth to take over from the older players when they retire or become backups.

over the mountain 02-02-2010 12:06 PM

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peppers and wilfork will want serious cash, im guessin 3-5 yrs at 40-70 mil.
they are both at or near 30 and want to get atleast one more big pay day.

there is no way i could see us throwing that kind of loot around.

HugeMonkFan 02-02-2010 12:16 PM

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JC should stay...if im correct its the last year on his contract...keep him one year and see how he pans out...i think there is only few on the board that feels like bradford will be a franchise qb...i dont agree and think he is too fragile...i would much rather draft okung and get a later qb (kafka, whom i like although i agree with slinging sammy that i believe that clausen is a better pick than bradford) and get the future rb and just try to find those starters we need thru free agency since we have an idea what will we get from them. rookies you never know...but if we draft guys that can sit for a year we can determine how they will fair as a starter in the future. it seems rare that a rook comes in and just takes the starting job and does great with it. i like the idea of sitting them for a year or working them slowly into the line up.

i think orakpo would be fine as an olb in a 3-4....he would have to work on his coverage skills a bit but i think hes athletic enough to make it work. i have high hopes for him. i dont feel like hes being wasted being set back to linebacker...no one has a problem with peppers as a lb. im not saying that orakpo is as athletic as peppers but hes not too far away either. i think he will be fine...and the stunts (if we decide to go with a steeler type 3-4) i think will only up his sack total and give him more opportunity to make big plays.

53Fan 02-02-2010 01:08 PM

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;659781]Because JC is not a franchise-type QB. You rarely, if ever, get a chance to draft a franchise QB. If one falls to us (Clausen, yes / Bradford, no) then he must be taken. Otherwise Okung or whoever Shanahan/Allen feels is the best fit at LT, or trade down if we get good value for the pick.[/quote]

You mean this guy Sammy? :)

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRgGpMhNb4E&NR=1]YouTube - Jimmy Clausen - Perfect Game?[/ame]

He has a hell of an arm.

Slingin Sammy 33 02-02-2010 02:12 PM

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[quote=53Fan;659814]You mean this guy Sammy? :)

He has a hell of an arm.[/quote]He played well in that game....but who doesn't against HI in a bowl game LOL

I'm sure you've seen my posts supporting Clausen as the pick. IMHO, everything points to this guy being something special at the next level.

PHazard 02-02-2010 02:43 PM

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I was just watching a video comparing Sam Bradford vs. Jimmy Clausen. i cant type in the link cuz im a new member but go 2 youtube and search Sam Bradford vs. Jimmy Clausen. Now i like Clausen's deep ball and the fact he worked in a pro style offense. I also like that his attitude is sumwhat along the lines of Phillip Rivers, but i think his cockiness is gonna get him in trouble. I dont think he'll put in as much work as Bradford would n i hate to say that cuz Bradford is another "quiet leader" But he is very intelligent and i think he would study hard to become a great nfl pro.

dmek25 02-02-2010 02:46 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;659731]They have spencer and of course ware, don't worry [B]I highly highly doubt it would happen[/B][/quote]
why? with no cap, anything is possible

dmek25 02-02-2010 02:47 PM

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welcome to the board phazard

Meks 02-02-2010 02:52 PM

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you know if we spent the type of money people think we will in the event of an un-capped year....

that'll be "the only reason you guys made the play-offs"

smh.

i still am 100% against drafting QB regardless of who it is at # 4 ....

we need to draft a stud O-Lineman pont blank.

Dirtbag59 02-02-2010 03:02 PM

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[quote=PHazard;659842]I was just watching a video comparing Sam Bradford vs. Jimmy Clausen. i cant type in the link cuz im a new member but go 2 youtube and search Sam Bradford vs. Jimmy Clausen. Now i like Clausen's deep ball and the fact he worked in a pro style offense. I also like that his attitude is sumwhat along the lines of Phillip Rivers, but i think his cockiness is gonna get him in trouble. I dont think he'll put in as much work as Bradford would n i hate to say that cuz Bradford is another "quiet leader" But he is very intelligent and i think he would study hard to become a great nfl pro.[/quote]

They're actually both hard workers, but I think Clausens attitude in general (as you mentioned Rivers esque) kind of gets a bad rap and leads people to jump to conclusions. Personally I haven't heard anything to suggest that one works harder, or less for that matter then the other, and they both work hard so thats a plus.

Clausen has the better deep ball, but Bradfords quick release and accuracy is really something special. Personally I would prefer Bradford but Clausen isn't a bad constilation prize.

HugeMonkFan 02-02-2010 05:01 PM

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i also like clausen more than bradford. the only problem with that video is that half the throws are either 1 step drop quick pass to the wideout or screens, and that hawaii have never been known for defense. their offense generally carries them year in year out. you can tell on all the long balls in that vid that the corners and safties are junk. i really like clausen's footwork, technique and arm. he seems to have that clock to let him know when to step up. we shall see.

Dirtbag59 02-02-2010 05:55 PM

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I actually spent some time on a Bronoco's forum to find out who could be be coming here.

You can view the thread here:
[url=http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=162023]Current Bronco's that Could Become Redskins - Broncos Country Message Boards[/url]

In the meantime heres some notes:

-The Bronoco's are switching to a power running game. So everyone that specialized in zone blocking is now expendable ([url=http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_14256207#ixzz0dYmJ6MlY]McDaniels: Running game will change - The Denver Post[/url])

- The Redskins could look at picking up Javaris Moss as a potential OLB. Apparently he did pretty good during preseason after the retirement fiasco but the team didn't play him during the year. I never realized the guy was as big as he was (6'7) so it will be interesting to see if they give him a shot here in training camp should he become available.

- G Ben Hamilton is as good as gone. Seems like theres a very good chance he could be coming here. Apparently his play has slipped off a lot over the past two years, but he should be a good stop gap here, especially considering the shape of our line. Hamilton can play Guard and Center.

- One of the better guys in Shanahan's draft department were a father and son combo known as the Goodmans. Apparently they were responsible for finding a lot of the hits in Denvers draft during Shanahan's years there. It woudn't be to far fetched to see them coming here to work in the front office. However Smootsmack I'd be interested in hearing what you know about these guys.

- There seems to be a split among the fans over weather Peyton Hillis and Chris Kuper (OG) will stay or be released. If Kuper was made available, even for a fourth round pick then it would be a good deal for us. Even better though if he's granted a clean release.

- A hand full of fans over there want Shanahan to come back. One even offered a first round pick :D

- If ARE is cut then it's very possible that Brandon Stokely could end up here as a 5th reciever. Stokely obviously has ties to Shanahan and grew up in the Virginia area, not to mention the fact that he played for the Ravens.

- Shanahan apparently doesn't like people that disagree with him and ran a few people out of town for doing so. One such example was John Lynch.

I think Smootsmack will be happy to know that he's not alone in the John Skelton fan club. Apparently theres someone over there on their forum who really wants the Bronoco's to draft him.

53Fan 02-02-2010 05:57 PM

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The main reason I posted that vid was to show Clausen's pocket presence, which I thought was good, arm strength, very good, and accuracy, there has been some question about that. He does throw a good deep ball and I was impressed with his aggressive nature of throwing the long pass and letting his receivers make a play on the ball.

SmootSmack 02-02-2010 06:07 PM

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[quote=PHazard;659842]I was just watching a video comparing Sam Bradford vs. Jimmy Clausen. i cant type in the link cuz im a new member but go 2 youtube and search Sam Bradford vs. Jimmy Clausen. Now i like Clausen's deep ball and the fact he worked in a pro style offense. I also like that his attitude is sumwhat along the lines of Phillip Rivers, but i think his cockiness is gonna get him in trouble. I dont think he'll put in as much work as Bradford would n i hate to say that cuz Bradford is another "quiet leader" But he is very intelligent and i think he would study hard to become a great nfl pro.[/quote]

Here's the link to the video you put together. Nice work

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The Goat 02-02-2010 11:10 PM

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Per the highlights:

Bradford has solid pocket presence. He moves away from pressure naturally. He's relatively accurate. The problem I see is a very, very weak arm for the NFL. While his release is fairly quick watch each pass closely. Very little velocity and often a sloppy spiral. Shanny had Elway for all that time, slinging the pigskin like nobody else could, and everybody knows that kind of ability allows a guy to do things weak-armed QBs just can't do. I would be shocked, truly shocked if Shanny drafts Bradford.

Clausen has a pretty strong arm to be sure. I don't see anything phenomenal though. Is he really much of an upgrade over JC? I really doubt it. And at 4th overall trading mediocrity for mediocrity is just bad management.

What position can we (likely) upgrade the most at 4? LT is obvious IMO. We've got a serviceable vet on the decline in Jones and absolutely nothing to back him up.

PHazard 02-02-2010 11:54 PM

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lol Thanx for posting the vid Smootsmack. Yea, i noticed that with Bradford too. Everything seems like a lob ball wit absolutely NO zip. But Adam Schefter said that Bradford has put on a good 15 lbs to fill out his frame more and Mel Kiper says he has an underrated arm. Clausen looks like he's workin behind the 2009 Redskins Offensive line so that is actually a nod to him. Made more plays than JC did this year. On the other hand, Jimmy Clausen could DEF be the next Ryan Leaf :-( Tell me yu can't picture him flippin out on a reporter lol. Also Clausen's delivery looks verrrrryyyyy similarrrrrrrr to like Colt Brennans. Now draft insiders ATE Colt alive for that. how come no1 is mentioning it for Clausen? I would like to know Shanahan's opinion of Brennan as well. He likes a QB with a quick release and is mobile in the pocket, not sayin he should start or anythin of CULT status but if we keep Campbell, sign a vet (jeff garcia?) and draft a QB @ #4 or later round, there will clearly be no room for him :-(

53Fan 02-03-2010 10:05 AM

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[quote=The Goat;659958]Per the highlights:

Bradford has solid pocket presence. He moves away from pressure naturally. He's relatively accurate. The problem I see is a very, very weak arm for the NFL. While his release is fairly quick watch each pass closely. Very little velocity and often a sloppy spiral. Shanny had Elway for all that time, slinging the pigskin like nobody else could, and everybody knows that kind of ability allows a guy to do things weak-armed QBs just can't do. I would be shocked, truly shocked if Shanny drafts Bradford.

Clausen has a pretty strong arm to be sure. I don't see anything phenomenal though. Is he really much of an upgrade over JC? I really doubt it. And at 4th overall trading mediocrity for mediocrity is just bad management.

What position can we (likely) upgrade the most at 4? LT is obvious IMO. We've got a serviceable vet on the decline in Jones and absolutely nothing to back him up.[/quote]
You put it better than I could Goat. I agree 100%.

CultBrennan59 02-10-2010 11:14 PM

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I think that this guy would be great for not just Hasletts defense but Danny Smiths special teams.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4UhwMYCL4k[/ame]

BigHairedAristocrat 02-11-2010 11:46 AM

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Neither Clausen or Bradford is worth taking at 4... or even 10 as far as i'm concerned. Hopefully we wont draft a QB just for the sake of drafting a QB. Neither Clausen or Bradford look dramatically better than the QB we already have. I recognize that we need to find a franchise QB, but reaching and drafting one way too high is not the way to do it.

NYCskinfan82 02-11-2010 12:30 PM

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[quote=bighairedaristocrat;662483]neither clausen or bradford is worth taking at 4... Or even 10 as far as i'm concerned. Hopefully we wont draft a qb just for the sake of drafting a qb. Neither clausen or bradford look dramatically better than the qb we already have. I recognize that we need to find a franchise qb, but reaching and drafting one way too high is not the way to do it.[/quote]

amen!

tryfuhl 02-11-2010 12:33 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;662373]I think that this guy would be great for not just Hasletts defense but Danny Smiths special teams.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4UhwMYCL4k]YouTube - Cody Grimm Pursuit and Forced Fumble[/url][/quote]
Grimm is likely going to be a SS, the one position we might be a bit "deep" at. We just drafted a late round one of those a couple of years ago in Horton. If he goes undrafted I guess you can invite him to camp.

BigHairedAristocrat 02-11-2010 01:14 PM

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antonio pierce was just cut by the Giants. If Vinny were still in charge, he'd be on his way to redskins park by now.

CRedskinsRule 02-11-2010 01:18 PM

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So what's the advantage, if any to cutting players now, before the 5th of March. Or is it that there is no disadvantage, because people are confidently expecting an uncapped year?

tryfuhl 02-11-2010 01:35 PM

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Oh wow.. Pierce should definitely gain some interest across the league, especially if he can pass the physical

tryfuhl 02-11-2010 01:41 PM

Re: Prospects for Shanahans offense/Hasletts 3-4 D
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;662523]So what's the advantage, if any to cutting players now, before the 5th of March. Or is it that there is no disadvantage, because people are confidently expecting an uncapped year?[/quote]
No clue if he'd be due something if kept past a point or if it was just to let him or them get a head start (easier to entice someone to sign with you if you know the spot is open, so they might have their eyes on someone).. doubt it had to do with FA otherwise since he still had a year left on his contract

after the season but before fa can an ufa that was cut be signed? I don't think so but not sure


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