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All I care about is getting BM in a Redskin uniform.

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[quote=skinsfan69;659720]All I care about is getting BM in a Redskin uniform.[/quote]

So you have the old thinking of giving up picks for a splashy free agent? I thought that was over when Cerrato left town.

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[quote=Ruhskins;659721]So you have the old thinking of giving up picks for a splashy free agent? I thought that was over when Cerrato left town.[/quote]

I have to agree with skinsfan69, because I think that Brandon Marshall would be unstoppable with NFC Corners regardless of whose throwing him the ball. All he cares about is having a good coach, and Money! What better place to go to than right here in Washington.

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i would like to also see him as a redskin but i cant see giving up a bunch of picks for him either...we need our 4th pick to get the best possible youngster we can get (am i allowed to use the term youngster since im only 28 lol)

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Brandon Marshall has a history of not getting along with Shanny (and McDaniels, too). BM is not comin' to D.C.

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[quote=mlmpetert;659634][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Its been a while now, but i thought everything i remembering hearing was that the Redskins were offering essentially the same thing (two first and a third plus their QB) for Cutler. But Denver valued Orton higher then Campbell.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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we were offering closer to a 1st, 3rd, and Campbell I believe

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[quote=Ruhskins;659721]So you have the old thinking of giving up picks for a splashy free agent? I thought that was over when Cerrato left town.[/quote]

Sorry but Marshall is a lot more than a "splashy free agent." It's one thing bringing in guys like ARE, Lloyd and Moss. But this guy can just take over and catch 20 passes in one game. Shanahan will know how to use him. If a player of this caliber is on the market, which it looks like he is, then we need to do everything we can to get him. BM is a true #1 wr and it's exactly what the offense needs. He would make everyone on our offense better.

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Marshall is an unbelievable talent, but it's a stretch to say that he is a "must have" for us. In four years in Denver, the Broncos never made the playoffs, finished above 500 (9-7) only once and the offense never finished in the top half of the NFL.

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not sure if the skins are in the market for Marshall. Not matter how much the fans want him to be here. He is obviously a tool, who doesn't work well with his coaches.

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[quote=tryfuhl;659769]we were offering closer to a 1st, 3rd, and Campbell I believe[/quote]

we never offered our first in 2009 - reportedly, that was something Cerrato was unwilling to do.

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BM just needs to grow up...then he will be the best player he can be...but until he gets past being "baby t.o" then its not gonna happen.

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id like to know once and for all just what we offered in teh 3 way broncos-skins-browns trade.

it has been reported we didnt want to give up 2 firsts, it has been reported that "the compensation was there" (meaning same as bears offer) but the broncos valued it as quinn, orton then JC as their qb wish list.

i guess we will never really know, but id like to. not that any of it matters anymore.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;659795]we never offered our first in 2009 - reportedly, that was something Cerrato was unwilling to do.[/quote]
ahh i was thinking that it was 2 firsts that we weren't willing to do

can't say I recall strongly though

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[quote=skinsfan69;659720]All I care about is getting BM in a Redskin uniform.[/quote]

No way Brian Mitchell is coming back.

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First of all, let's look at everyone that's involved in this rumor. The Browns, this is a totally dysfunctional outfit. Aren't they the same team that can't seem to come up with a decent contract for their best player, Joshua Cribbs? The Broncos, isn't this the same team that kicked Shanahan to the curb, pissed off their all Pro quarterback and was forced to trade him to the Bears? Brandon Marshall, isn't this the same player that refused to show up for training camp/practice and threatened to not play? Brady Quinn, isn't this the bum that was drafted first round out of Notre Dame and couldn't nail down the starting quarterback job in Cleveland over Derek Anderson? They are all misfits. Orton is no better or worse than Quinn.

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I thought Shanahan tried trading him away at one point? The guy is talented, but definitely a bit of a problem child.

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he was actually thinking about cutting him. doesn't that tell you something about Marshall?

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[QUOTE="dmek25"]he was actually thinking about cutting him. doesn't that tell you something about Marshall?[/QUOTE]

Yeah that's bad since Shanahan is known for giving bad character guys a chance

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There's no way the Bronco's trade Marshall for Quinn.(Why would the Broncos want to trade with the Browns again? Didn't they learn their lesson when they traded for their entire defensive line a few years back?)

If he is traded, teams like the Ravens or the Dolphins look like a better match. They both need a big-time WR and that might put them over the edge to competing for a championship.

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[quote=skinsfan69;659780]Sorry but Marshall is a lot more than a "splashy free agent." It's one thing bringing in guys like ARE, Lloyd and Moss. But this guy can just take over and catch 20 passes in one game. Shanahan will know how to use him. If a player of this caliber is on the market, which it looks like he is, then we need to do everything we can to get him. BM is a true #1 wr and it's exactly what the offense needs. He would make everyone on our offense better.[/quote]Marshall is a fringe No. 1 who clearly has the talent to be so much more. So many of his catches in any given game are of the useless variety.

He was a lot improved this year with Orton at QB I thought because instead of being a limiting factor on his quarterback when Cutler was there, he became a positive factor for Orton who doesn't have the type of downfield accuracy that Cutler does.

But ultimately, Marshall's catch rate numbers and other value metrics are the same every year, which means that, even though his improvements have been evident, we really do know what he is at this point. And he's not a "true" No. 1, like an Owens, Moss, Wayne, Holt, or Vincent Jackson all in their primes. Like Braylon, he's an above average player who is expendable at a good price.

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[quote=GTripp0012;659879]Marshall is a fringe No. 1 who clearly has the talent to be so much more. So many of his catches in any given game are of the useless variety.

He was a lot improved this year with Orton at QB I thought because instead of being a limiting factor on his quarterback when Cutler was there, he became a positive factor for Orton who doesn't have the type of downfield accuracy that Cutler does.

But ultimately, Marshall's catch rate numbers and other value metrics are the same every year, which means that, even though his improvements have been evident, we really do know what he is at this point. And he's not a "true" No. 1, like an Owens, Moss, Wayne, Holt, or Vincent Jackson all in their primes. Like Braylon, he's an above average player who is expendable at a good price.[/quote]

Marshall has had 100 catches each of the last three years (he's only been in the league four years). I'd say that qualifies him as a bonafide No. 1 WR. Braylon Edwards is a flash in the pan. Good for the Browns for dumping him (and Winslow) when they could.

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[quote=DIE-NASTY;659886]Marshall has had 100 catches each of the last three years (he's only been in the league four years). I'd say that qualifies him as a bonafide No. 1 WR. Braylon Edwards is a flash in the pan. Good for the Browns for dumping him (and Winslow) when they could.[/quote]Interesting point here, but my response would be, do you consider Jamal Lewis to be a hall of famer?

In his first four years he rushed for 1,000 yards in each and had a 2,000 yard season and a pro bowl/all pro season. At the time, he was averaging 4.6 yards per carry, which is certainly a hall of fame figure.

It's not a perfect comparison by any means, they don't play the same position, and no one is calling Brandon Marshall a future hall of famer, but I'm making the comparison because Lewis' per play metrics were never that impressive even in his early days (including his 2,000 yd season) and he had a jail stint and predictably declined.

But he's one of six players in NFL history to rush for 2,000 yards (and I'd imagine Marshall is one of roughly the same number to have three consecutive 100 reception seasons), so shouldn't Lewis be in the hall of fame someday?

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[quote=GTripp0012;659887]Interesting point here, but my response would be, do you consider Jamal Lewis to be a hall of famer?

In his first four years he rushed for 1,000 yards in each and had a 2,000 yard season and a pro bowl/all pro season. At the time, he was averaging 4.6 yards per carry, which is certainly a hall of fame figure.

It's not a perfect comparison by any means, they don't play the same position, and no one is calling Brandon Marshall a future hall of famer, but I'm making the comparison because Lewis' per play metrics were never that impressive even in his early days (including his 2,000 yd season) and he had a jail stint and predictably declined.

But he's one of six players in NFL history to rush for 2,000 yards (and I'd imagine Marshall is one of roughly the same number to have three consecutive 100 reception seasons), so shouldn't Lewis be in the hall of fame someday?[/quote]

im kinda confused why you went on a hall of fame rant there. but i think marshall is hitting his strike and is gonna be in his prime for another few years....why wouldnt any team like to have this guy outside of his off the field shit? i do agree with whoever said he will prob end up on a team like the dolphins or ravens. The dolphins seem like a young team and need that big number one receiver (and yes i believe BM is a legit number 1). the ravens have to start thinking about the future due to a large number of their best players are getting up there in age. i mean i wouldnt be entirely surprised if shanny and danny try to get him but i think we have bigger fish to catch at this point. we have a couple of young guys still improving in Thomas and Kelly that could, maybe, one day turn into a decent number one. i would rather us go after o line help and peppers then BM.

o and lol to Buster for the Brian Michell comment...we could use him at this point lol

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[quote=HugeMonkFan;659889]im kinda confused why you went on a hall of fame rant there. but i think marshall is hitting his strike and is gonna be in his prime for another few years....why wouldnt any team like to have this guy outside of his off the field shit? i do agree with whoever said he will prob end up on a team like the dolphins or ravens. The dolphins seem like a young team and need that big number one receiver (and yes i believe BM is a legit number 1). the ravens have to start thinking about the future due to a large number of their best players are getting up there in age. i mean i wouldnt be entirely surprised if shanny and danny try to get him but i think we have bigger fish to catch at this point. we have a couple of young guys still improving in Thomas and Kelly that could, maybe, one day turn into a decent number one. i would rather us go after o line help and peppers then BM.

o and lol to Buster for the Brian Michell comment...we could use him at this point lol[/quote]I went on a hall of fame rant...because it made sense to me at the time.

But the true point, which I stand by, is about productivity measures. Marshall has never been a very productive player. But he certainly accounts for a large portion of his teams offense every season, as evidenced by a low catch rate and a high number of receptions every year. He's roughly 1/3 of his teams entire offense, which is basically unheard of for a single receiver.

Marshall's strengths include being an excellent bad ball saver (which leads to spectacular catches), and being a very valuable receiver and route runner in the deep field. But despite his strong frame and hands, he's one of the worst underneath targets in pro football. He'll go over the middle, but a lot of his quarterbacks interceptions occur on those deep dig routes to Marshall. He's not very good at that bubble screen, even though they run it to him all the time, and though he's very good after the catch, he can't (doesn't?) really run away from linebackers on drags.

You, generally speaking, don't want to run 1/3 of your offense through a player like that. It's not a winning strategy. You DO want to use his big play ability multiple times a game. But when Brandon Marshall catches 20 passes, it tells me that he's not really commanding the respect of the defense as the argument for him being a true no. 1 would suggest he does. The Colts--who might know something about defense--didn't feel like they needed to take Brandon Marshall away to win. They were right.

It's not like Denver has a gaping hole at No. 1 WR like, say, St. Louis. Marshall is adequate for the role. He's just not a "go-to" type of character. That's not really his game. He'd be more effective if a team lived off the running game, tight end, and slot receiver, and then like DeSean Jackson, you send him deep every half or so and try to let him break the game wide open (Jackson is actually good at the WR screen though). Given where Denver is as an offense, they can certainly afford to part ways with him.

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I don't know man. Denver didn't have much of a running game, Eddie Royal didn't put up the same production he did a year ago, Scheffler is on a milk carton in MCD offense and BM is the reason Orton had so much success (he did better than Cutler in Chi-town).

My idea of a No. 1 WR is he's the guy who catches the ball when the defense knows he's getting the ball. To catch 100 passes three straight years is special. Marvin Harrison and Jerry Rice (he caught 100 passes 1994-1996 seasons) pulled it off and they're both going to be HOFers. Wes Welker has done it. Sterling Sharpe (and he was damn good) caught 100 passes in consecutive years but never three years in a row.

If we hadn't mortgaged away our draft picks so foolishly away the past few years, I'd say make a move. Maybe we can trade back and make draft-day trade for BM (I'd give up a middle 2nd not our current pick but preferably a 3rd or less for the guy). Odds are someone is going to get BM for next to nothing compared to what they'll get out of the guy.

I'd rather trade two prospects which is what draft picks are for a proven player any day.

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but see the thing is we have other players, moss, cooley, various rbs to where he wont have to be a 1/3 of our offense...im confused how you say he didnt produce but he was a third of denvers offense. thats like saying matt forte didnt produce 2 years ago or chris johnson didnt this year. I agree that he doesnt HAVE to be doubled every play like Andre Johnson, Randy Moss and the like but hes getting there.

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I don't think Marshal is good enough to get fleeced in order to get him. We can find talent in the draft and coach them up

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[quote=GTripp0012;659879]Marshall is a fringe No. 1 who clearly has the talent to be so much more. So many of his catches in any given game are of the useless variety.

He was a lot improved this year with Orton at QB I thought because instead of being a limiting factor on his quarterback when Cutler was there, he became a positive factor for Orton who doesn't have the type of downfield accuracy that Cutler does.

But ultimately, Marshall's catch rate numbers and other value metrics are the same every year, which means that, even though his improvements have been evident, we really do know what he is at this point. And he's not a "true" No. 1, like an Owens, Moss, Wayne, Holt, or Vincent Jackson all in their primes. Like Braylon, he's an above average player who is expendable at a good price.[/quote]

Sorry Tripp but I don't judge guys on metrics. And neither does anyone that plays in the NFL. Above average players simply don't catch 20 + passes on two different occasion, put up 100 + catches 3 years in a row. It just doesn't happen. I mean the guy had 100 catches w/ Kyle Orton as his QB, plus he missed a game. His credentials on the field speak for themsleves. We haven't seen that type of production at the WR spot since the Posse days. You may not know what he is at this point but I think the rest of the NFL does. And I can promise you the NFL and the guys who defend him don't think of Brandon Marshall as an above average player.

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I'll just repost what I wrote earlier

Marshall is an unbelievable talent, but it's a stretch to say that he is a "must have" for us. In four years in Denver, the Broncos never made the playoffs, finished above 500 (9-7) only once and the offense never finished in the top half of the NFL.

Do we really think we're that close that we can give up draft picks for a guy who alone won't make much of a difference in getting us to being a winning franchise again? I'd rather have four guys catch 5 passes on a 12-4 playoff team than one guy catch 20 on an 8-8 golfing in december team

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^ Plus Thomas and Kelly may step up next year in a way which makes us forget about Brandon Marshall.

There is no way that Shanny will spend picks on Marshall, whom he wanted to cut before, anyway.

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[quote=SmootSmack;660103]I'll just repost what I wrote earlier

Marshall is an unbelievable talent, but it's a stretch to say that he is a "must have" for us. In four years in Denver, the Broncos never made the playoffs, finished above 500 (9-7) only once and the offense never finished in the top half of the NFL.

Do we really think we're that close that we can give up draft picks for a guy who alone won't make much of a difference in getting us to being a winning franchise again? I'd rather have four guys catch 5 passes on a 12-4 playoff team than one guy catch 20 on an 8-8 golfing in december team[/quote]

Well said. Why on earth would we ship away multiple picks for a malcontent WR when we have such pressing needs at other positions? I think Devin Thomas is well on his way to being the playmaker we hoped he'd be when he was drafted.

The definition of insanity is repeating the same behavior and expecting different results. Giving up multiple draft picks for this guy would be exactly that.

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[quote=skinsfan69;660096]Sorry Tripp but I don't judge guys on metrics. And neither does anyone that plays in the NFL. Above average players simply don't catch 20 + passes on two different occasion, put up 100 + catches 3 years in a row. It just doesn't happen. I mean the guy had 100 catches w/ Kyle Orton as his QB, plus he missed a game. His credentials on the field speak for themsleves. We haven't seen that type of production at the WR spot since the Posse days. You may not know what he is at this point but I think the rest of the NFL does. And I can promise you the NFL and the guys who defend him don't think of Brandon Marshall as an above average player.[/quote]

Agreed, I don't know of too many "fringe #1" types that put up 3 consecutive 100+ catch seasons. Those are some serious big boy numbers.

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[quote=GMScud;660107]Well said. Why on earth would we ship away multiple picks for a malcontent WR when we have such pressing needs at other positions? [B]I think Devin Thomas is well on his way to being the playmaker we hoped he'd be when he was drafted.[/B]

The definition of insanity is repeating the same behavior and expecting different results. Giving up multiple draft picks for this guy would be exactly that.[/quote]

Whoah stop the presses...

You feeling ok? ;)

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[quote=SmootSmack;660103]I'll just repost what I wrote earlier

Marshall is an unbelievable talent, but it's a stretch to say that he is a "must have" for us. In four years in Denver, the Broncos never made the playoffs, finished above 500 (9-7) only once and the offense never finished in the top half of the NFL.

Do we really think we're that close that we can give up draft picks for a guy who alone won't make much of a difference in getting us to being a winning franchise again? I'd rather have four guys catch 5 passes on a 12-4 playoff team than one guy catch 20 on an 8-8 golfing in december team[/quote]

who cares if they didn't make the playoffs? it sure wasn't his fault. we don't have any true studs on offense. all we have is some maybe's... when you bring a guy like marshall it opens up the running game, it opens stuff up for the TE's underneath, the 2nd and 3rd wr's will get single coverage, it will help jc. remember how important burress was during the giants sb run?? we're not talking about brandon lloyd here. if the price is right allen and shanahan need to try and make the deal.

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[quote=GMScud;660107]Well said. Why on earth would we ship away multiple picks for a malcontent WR when we have such pressing needs at other positions? I think Devin Thomas is well on his way to being the playmaker we hoped he'd be when he was drafted.

The definition of insanity is repeating the same behavior and expecting different results. Giving up multiple draft picks for this guy would be exactly that.[/quote]

Thomas had one good game against New Orleans who were bringing in d-backs in off the street. Overall he had something like 20 some catches for the year?? Marshall had that in one game. lol. I'm not saying we give up on these guys but either they start producing next year or good bye.

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[quote=skinsfan69;660125]who cares if they didn't make the playoffs? it sure wasn't his fault. we don't have any true studs on offense. all we have is some maybe's... when you bring a guy like marshall it opens up the running game, it opens stuff up for the TE's underneath, the 2nd and 3rd wr's will get single coverage, it will help jc. remember how important burress was during the giants sb run?? we're not talking about brandon lloyd here. if the price is right allen and shanahan need to try and make the deal.[/quote]

Didn't say it was his fault. Just saying that even with his great numbers they still were never a playoff team. I'm saying in the grand scheme of things his gaudy numbers are irrelevant. I'd rather hold on to our draft picks, and develop something with the receivers we have

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[quote=skinsfan69;660125]who cares if they didn't make the playoffs? it sure wasn't his fault. we don't have any true studs on offense. all we have is some maybe's... when you bring a guy like marshall it opens up the running game, it opens stuff up for the TE's underneath, the 2nd and 3rd wr's will get single coverage, it will help jc. remember how important burress was during the giants sb run?? we're not talking about brandon lloyd here. if the price is right allen and shanahan need to try and make the deal.[/quote]

If we got Marshall I'm just wondering how long it would take before you would call him a bitch, say you're sick of his act, his complaining, etc.

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[quote=skinsfan69;660096]Sorry Tripp but I don't judge guys on metrics. And neither does anyone that plays in the NFL. Above average players simply don't catch 20 + passes on two different occasion, put up 100 + catches 3 years in a row. It just doesn't happen. I mean the guy had 100 catches w/ Kyle Orton as his QB, plus he missed a game. His credentials on the field speak for themsleves. We haven't seen that type of production at the WR spot since the Posse days. You may not know what he is at this point but I think the rest of the NFL does. And I can promise you the NFL and the guys who defend him don't think of Brandon Marshall as an above average player.[/quote]So, would you say that it's the football guy who wanted to cut him (Shanahan) who doesn't know what he is at this point, or the current coach who wants to trade him rather than work with him (McDaniels)? Or are they not "football people" if they disagree with you?

Also, do not bother to tell me that you don't judge guys on metrics, while spitting two or three different metrics back at me as to why your point should be considered. You absolutely do use stats to back your points, but high receptions don't tell you anything about the effectiveness of a given player. In a vacuum, high reception players are better than low reception players, but Marshall isn't being compared to Early Doucet and Sam Hurd here. I don't think that Marshall's 100 catch seasons should be ignored, but if most of his catches don't produce first downs, he's not an elite player. Period.

If the Broncos can get a bunch of draft picks and a quarterback or a defensive player for Marshall, more power to them. He'll probably be the No. 1 wherever he goes next , and maybe at some point in his career, he'll play with a defense that will get him into the postseason. He'll always make those highlight reel catches because he's highly skilled at them, but Marshall shouldn't be mentioned with the best in the game. If he is, then his reception total is being overvalued, which, believe it or not, is a stat.

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To clarify: if the Redskins acquired Marshall, he'd be our No. 1. If the Cowboys or Giants got him, he'd be their No. 2. If the Packers or Patriots or Cardinals got him, he'd be their No. 3.

Obviously, none of those teams at the end would be interested in trading for him, because they don't need a third WR, but I don't know if Marshall would be a No. 1 on more than half the teams in this league. I suspect (but have not checked) that he wouldn't be.

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[quote=Mattyk;660130]If we got Marshall I'm just wondering how long it would take before you would call him a bitch, say you're sick of his act, his complaining, etc.[/quote]

:laughing2 No s**t. He didn't even want to play through an injury when the playoffs were on the line. Of course I guess that's not as bad as going to a basketball game on a bad ankle. :laughing-