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Although Campbell isnt the only reason we are 4-12. He's a good chunk of it. When you are the QB, you are the face of the organization. If you win, you get the praise. If you lose, you get the blame. Its the nature of the beast. Peyton Manning did pretty damn well with a shitty offensive line comprised of mid rounders and undrafted free agents. Not to mention a running game that was ranked 32 in the league, or as i like to call DEAD LAST. But he doesnt get sacked cuz he knows how to read a defense and knows where to go with the ball. i am in NO WAY comparing manning and campbell. But a FRANCHISE QB would have gotten more than 4 wins. We had 8 losses of less than ONE possession (against Giants, Lions, Panthers, Chiefs, Cowboys, Eagles, Saints, Chargers). Campbell cant drive down the field at the end of a game against a prevent defense to give his team a chance to win. Say we came back in even half of those games then we're 8-8 and the season doesnt look damn near as dismal. If we won them all (unlikely obviously, we'd be 12-4) lol ridiculous right? And we had a head coach that was so busy being a QB's coach, that our whole team downspiraled and campbell STILL didnt raise his game. Statistically yes but those are deceiving. Not saying campbell was our only problem cuz thats far from the case but a franchise QB can read a defense, make audibles at the line and lead his team to victory. 3 things jason campbell cant not do

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[quote=redskins202;663786] But its ok me and you will enjoy Bradford but Campbell just AVG with an OL. I recorded every tape and seen this guy to know he isn't it. [/quote]

:doh: it becomes difficult to read this drivel after a while.

Back to the topic at hand, we all know there isnt a team out there that is going to give us a 1st and 3rd for Campbell. What is a more likely offer that we would accept? Should accept?

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[quote=johno;663840]:doh: it becomes difficult to read this drivel after a while.

Back to the topic at hand, we all know there isnt a team out there that is going to give us a 1st and 3rd for Campbell. What is a more likely offer that we would accept? Should accept?[/quote]

A conditional 3rd round pick that could become a 2nd if Jason meets certain criteria during the season.....we could still get a decent runningback or OL with a 3rd round pick.

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I think teams will try to offer a 3rd, but we should push for either a mid 2nd, or a 3rd and 6th. JC is a proven mid-grade starter and we shouldn't shortchange ourselves, but we also know we want to go a different direction so lets get something for him.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;663850]A conditional 3rd round pick that could become a 2nd if Jason meets certain criteria during the season.....we could still get a decent runningback or OL with a 3rd round pick.[/quote]

Anything less than a 2cd round pick in my eyes would be more detrimental to the team than actually keeping JC for another season. It is very difficult to say at the moment not knowing who is on the bench at QB2, QB3. We would have to find a decent backup to take less than a 2cd, and isn't that what we already have in JC.

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[quote=redskins202;663779]1: You haven't seen the 08-09 Jason Candle have you?.

2: It doesn't mean we want to keep him it means we are shopping to see what we can get for him. Honestly this is 70% chance Candle will not be back.

3: You would let Jason Candle come back and end up leaving than to get a 4th round pick which could help us pick up a Tackle or G or what ever?.

4: It wouldn't mean nothing we will regardless get a QB with more picks.


I mean I'm still shocked your saying we aren't better off with him. Do you believe Joe Montana-Steve Young- Bret Favre wouldnt give us a better record than 4-12?[/quote]

Here we go again with the candle crap...do you realize NO ONE is going to take anything you say seriously with that immaturity? (not that your points are valid and unbiased anyways)


I do believe we should draft a Tackle with that #4 pick. Even if we get Bradford or Claussen, they won't be able to develop without a solid line. Think David Carr.

We won't get a 1st and 3rd for Campbell from anyone, so even speculating about a trade like this is pointless. Our best bet for success is to build up the line and let Campbell run Shanny's offense, which is tailor-made for his skillset. Shanahan's offense is run-heavy but the QB's role is made easy for a mobile QB to succeed. He likes to use half of the field and roll out the QB a lot. When tjhe QB rolls out, he'll have 3 routes being run at different depths right in front of him...so the progressions are as easy as counting 1-2-3 as the QB looks at all open options right in front of him. If no one is immediately open, the QB can take off, something that Campbell does better than most QBs in the league. He just needs to learn how to slide!

I think JC will be highly successful in this offense IF we have an offensive line and running game, which could come with the rebuilding of the line. With out first two picks at least, we need a Tackle and a Center/Guard. Rabach is backup material and cost us far too many points and possessions. After that, draft a RB and LB. If LeFevour is around in rounds 4-6, get him to groom as the #2 QB and to compete with Colt Brennan, who may not even make the team if we get someone like LeFevour. Late picks, get more depth at OL, LB and maybe even a CB with last-round potential. No more "best available" picks...we have specific and vital needs this year that Vinny and his crew ignored for years.

[quote=redskins202;663786]I recorded every tape and seen this guy to know he isn't it.[/quote]

Try watching them, please.

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[quote=Mattyk;663817]If they tender him at the 1st and 3rd level, that's just the starting off point for negotiations. It doesn't mean that he can only be dealt for a 1st and 3rd.[/quote]

Do you think they would take a 2nd for him? I think they might if they get one. It's possible. I'm not sure a team would give up a second though.

I do think MS's plan is to keep JC and draft a QB to sit for a year.

Purely for speculation, If you do get a 2nd for JC, you'd have a 1st and 2 2nds. Trading down we could potentially have a later 1st and 3 2nds or 2 2nds and a 3rd.

4 potential draft picks in the 1st two rounds would be a good thing. That could fill some holes. We'd be sacrificing by not having an experienced QB in 2010. There are some qb's on the market though that could fill that role. Hey, i know, I'm bored.

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All right well since we'll never get rid of the Campbell/Bradford/etc debate for another year maybe it's best to go to the thing that doesn't lie. "Film" or in this case highlights. Here's JC at his best. Is he a franchise QB or a just a really good QB?:


[YT]FoaLukSwdbo[/YT]
[YT]KxmVhHnv7GM[/YT]

On a side note it's amazing how good we were at running left.

Re: ESPN: Clayton Expects Skins to Tender Campbell for a 1st and 3rd
 

[quote=firstdown;663746]Hell if we got a 1st and 3rd for him I'd vote for Obama in 2012.[/quote]
I almost peed a little hahahaha

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[quote=CultBrennan59;663755]we would never get a 1st and 3rd for him, tender him for something we would get for him like a 3rd or 4th[/quote]
You don't understand tenders.

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[quote=Buster;663863]Here we go again with the candle crap...do you realize NO ONE is going to take anything you say seriously with that immaturity? (not that your points are valid and unbiased anyways)


I do believe we should draft a Tackle with that #4 pick. Even if we get Bradford or Claussen, they won't be able to develop without a solid line. Think David Carr.

We won't get a 1st and 3rd for Campbell from anyone, so even speculating about a trade like this is pointless. Our best bet for success is to build up the line and let Campbell run Shanny's offense, which is tailor-made for his skillset. Shanahan's offense is run-heavy but the QB's role is made easy for a mobile QB to succeed. He likes to use half of the field and roll out the QB a lot. When tjhe QB rolls out, he'll have 3 routes being run at different depths right in front of him...so the progressions are as easy as counting 1-2-3 as the QB looks at all open options right in front of him. If no one is immediately open, the QB can take off, something that Campbell does better than most QBs in the league. He just needs to learn how to slide!

I think JC will be highly successful in this offense IF we have an offensive line and running game, which could come with the rebuilding of the line. With out first two picks at least, we need a Tackle and a Center/Guard. Rabach is backup material and cost us far too many points and possessions. After that, draft a RB and LB. If LeFevour is around in rounds 4-6, get him to groom as the #2 QB and to compete with Colt Brennan, who may not even make the team if we get someone like LeFevour. Late picks, get more depth at OL, LB and maybe even a CB with last-round potential. No more "best available" picks...we have specific and vital needs this year that Vinny and his crew ignored for years.[/quote]


What is with the Candle thing? Is it a misspelling, igronance, a joke???

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[quote=The Goat;663773]I doubt Jason has any trade value. The tender is irrelevant so they might as well make it for a trillion $ and a toilet made of solid gold. He'll either be cut if Shanny & Co find a true starter or he'll just compete for a spot on the team.

Realistically he's a Redskin for another year; however, it's not realistic to expect him to start all season. When Jason gets out of rhythm he's totally ineffective, struggling even to complete the basic stuff. Shanny will bench him in a heartbeat.

The more I think about Jason's future it's actually easy to see him out of the league not too long from now. One thing we know is he [I]thinks[/I] he's far better than he really is...always asserting he is unquestionably a starter in this league. We also know most, if not all, franchises do not see him as a starter. If he's unwilling to meet his likely destiny on the bench somewhere I can see him just calling it good.[/quote]
As much bad rep as he gets for not being vocal.. if he said "we'll have to see if the coaches think that I'm an NFL starter" that would be career suicide

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His name is Jason Campbell, not Candle. How can you call yourself a Redskin fan with this kind of crap. I used to call Tony Romo, Homo. Romo is a Cowboy, so its understandable. Out of respect for some of my Cowboy friends, I stop doing it. It's disrespectful. It doesn't matter if you like the guy or not, its wrong. Stop it.

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[quote=redskins202;663779]1: You haven't seen the 08-09 Jason Candle have you?.

2: It doesn't mean we want to keep him it means we are shopping to see what we can get for him. Honestly this is 70% chance Candle will not be back.

3: You would let Jason Candle come back and end up leaving than to get a 4th round pick which could help us pick up a Tackle or G or what ever?.

4: It wouldn't mean nothing we will regardless get a QB with more picks.


I mean I'm still shocked your saying we aren't better off with him. Do you believe Joe Montana-Steve Young- Bret Favre wouldnt give us a better record than 4-12?[/quote]
sooooooo

how long is your ban over at ES? I'm sure that they miss your insight

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[quote=redskins202;663785]He's AVG............and come on...did you see his pick 6 against the Giants game?. How does he mis-throw a pass for a pick 6???does any body else make an mistake like that?.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd8SKfMj378"]YouTube - Jason Candle (Jason Campbell) Geico Commercial[/URL]


^^^Candle. And its 70% chance because.

1: Bills-Rams-Vikes-Cards-Jags-Oak- all could use a QB who thinls can be good so look for one of them to atleast offer a 3rd.

2: If we go Bradford look for Campbell to not come back.

70% in my view. 0% unless Candle thinks he can perform for us as just a back up than yea sure.[/quote]
So "Jason Candle" is the first player to throw a pick 6, it's in the books

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[quote=mredskins;663878]What is with the Candle thing? Is it a misspelling, igronance, a joke???[/quote]

It's just dumb, not even funny

Re: ESPN: Clayton Expects Skins to Tender Campbell for a 1st and 3rd
 

[quote=mredskins;663878]What is with the Candle thing? Is it a misspelling, igronance, a joke???[/quote]


Ok I get it the GEICO commercial. Hilarity ensues, not.

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[SIZE=5][B]All of this discussion will be moot when the Rams take Bradford at #1 anyways. :)[/B][/SIZE]

Re: ESPN: Clayton Expects Skins to Tender Campbell for a 1st and 3rd
 

[quote=mredskins;663878]What is with the Candle thing? Is it a misspelling, igronance, a joke???[/quote]

Ignorance with a side of stupidity.

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[quote=Ruhskins;663788]I think you are exaggerating on Campbell's abilities, especially when you see analysts say thing like this...

[url=http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=4911628]NFL: The Carolina Panthers have depth problems at wide receiver - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Thats an ESPN writer writing that lol. Listen to the other NFL analysts who commented Campbell all game long. Did you hear Chris Collinsworth all game about Campbell on the Cowboys game? he thought Campbell wasn't a starter in his own words.


Its ok tho as long as we draft a QB for the future .

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AND CAN THREE OF YOU GUYS SHUT UP ABOUT THE CANDLE THING. I'll stop saying it .............dont have to be a geek about the whole situation and write it up on one post not 3.

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[quote=Buster;663895][SIZE=5][B]All of this discussion will be moot when the Rams take Bradford at #1 anyways. :)[/B][/SIZE][/quote]

Nightmare Draft:

1. Rams - Bradford
2. Lions - Okung
3. Bucs - Suh
4. No one wants to trade up. Of course selecting Jimmy Clausen would be a good pick.

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[quote=redskins202;663905]AND CAN THREE OF YOU GUYS SHUT UP ABOUT THE CANDLE THING. I'll stop saying it .............dont have to be a geek about the whole situation and write it up on one post not 3.[/quote]
And you didn't have to put it in every post. Your last quip I'm not even sure what you mean.

Asking once again, when is your ES ban up?

If you couldn't tell by now we (typically) have more mature conversations and enjoy the fact that not every thread is cluttered with the reactionary baseless drivel that you've been so kind as to bestow upon us.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;663908]Nightmare Draft:

1. Rams - Bradford
2. Lions - Okung
3. Bucs - Suh
4. No one wants to trade up. Of course selecting Jimmy Clausen would be a good pick.[/quote]
Waiting for Berry crew.

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;663882]Out of [B]respect for [/B]some of my [B]Cowboy friends[/B], I stop doing it. It's disrespectful.[/quote]

And you sir call yourself a Redskins Fan. Blasphemy!:spank::)

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here is the breakdown for rest FA tenders:

Four years of experience

•Original pick compensation: $1.176 million
•Second round tender: $1.759 million
•First round tender: $2.521 million
•First and third tender: $3.168 million
Five years of NFL experience

•Original pick compensation: $1.226 million
•Second round tender: $1.809 million
•First round tender: $2.621 million
•First and third round tender: $3.268 million

3.2 mil to tender JC is not bad at all.

i think or would like to think that if JC is tendered then traded, it woud be comparable to matt schaub. the falcons tendered him for a 1st and 3rd then traded him to the texans for a 2nd (and 6th?) round picks.

if we can get a 2nd for JC, it seems pretty clear to me we should take it. probably even a 3rd and 5th rounder as well.

i would not trade JC for a 4th rounder, he has more value being our QB next year (no matter what happens in the draft) then a 4th roundr imo.

and the talk on the first page about JC wanting a trade if we draft a qb no. 4. he said this past month that he is a starter in this league and doesnt want to and shouldnt have to compete. if we actually draft a qb no. 4, i think JC will let it be known he is not happy but in a polite and professional way, which i would have no prob with and would understand.

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[quote=redsk1;663868][B]Do you think they would take a 2nd for him? I think they might if they get one.[/B] It's possible. I'm not sure a team would give up a second though.

I do think MS's plan is to keep JC and draft a QB to sit for a year.

Purely for speculation, If you do get a 2nd for JC, you'd have a 1st and 2 2nds. Trading down we could potentially have a later 1st and 3 2nds or 2 2nds and a 3rd.

4 potential draft picks in the 1st two rounds would be a good thing. That could fill some holes. We'd be sacrificing by not having an experienced QB in 2010. There are some qb's on the market though that could fill that role. Hey, i know, I'm bored.[/quote]

A 2nd and a conditional lower rounder and I think the Skins are interested. But only if we also have a veteran lined up to be the short term starter. I don't see MS tossing a rookie to the wolves in year 1.

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[quote=Mattyk;663925]A 2nd and a conditional lower rounder and I think the Skins are interested. But only if we also have a veteran lined up to be the short term starter. I don't see MS tossing a rookie to the wolves in year 1.[/quote]

At least the first 8 games. Last half of the season is a different story.

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[quote=redskins202;663905]AND CAN THREE OF YOU GUYS SHUT UP ABOUT THE CANDLE THING. I'll stop saying it .............dont have to be a geek about the whole situation and write it up on one post not 3.[/quote]

Hey genius, you're the only one annoying the whole internet with the "CANDLE THING".

[quote=Dirtbag359;663908]Nightmare Draft:

1. Rams - Bradford
2. Lions - Okung
3. Bucs - Suh
4. No one wants to trade up. Of course selecting Jimmy Clausen would be a good pick.[/quote]


This scary scenario is very possible though. It's no secret the Rams' top priority is QB. They likely will take Bradford in my opinion. The Lions have the franchise QB and WR, there are no RBs who merit a #2 pick, so Okung could be a smart pick for them. Suh won't last to #4, so the Bucs would jump on him if he's there. Then what for us? Berry would be great but we should not waste a 1st round pick on a DB. McCoy, great but again, no DT is necessary. Not sold on Claussen, plus we need an O-lineman. I'd say we need to go with [B]Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers[/B]. He impresses me more than Trent Williams from OK.

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[quote=over the mountain;663916]here is the breakdown for rest FA tenders:

Four years of experience

•Original pick compensation: $1.176 million
•Second round tender: $1.759 million
•First round tender: $2.521 million
•First and third tender: $3.168 million
Five years of NFL experience

•Original pick compensation: $1.226 million
•Second round tender: $1.809 million
•First round tender: $2.621 million
•First and third round tender: $3.268 million

.[/quote]

sorry to quote myself but couldnt we tender JC at the "original pick compensation" of 1.2 mil. then if another team signs him we would get a 1st rounder in return since JC was a 1st round pick?

instead of the 1st and 3rd.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;663908]Nightmare Draft:

1. Rams - Bradford
2. Lions - Okung
3. Bucs - Suh
4. No one wants to trade up. Of course selecting Jimmy Clausen would be a good pick.[/quote]

If Swartz can resist Suh and Gerald McCoy this could very well happen. Stafford could use the protection.

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[quote=over the mountain;663945]sorry to quote myself but couldnt we tender JC at the "original pick compensation" of 1.2 mil. then if another team signs him we would get a 1st rounder in return since JC was a 1st round pick?

instead of the 1st and 3rd.[/quote]Well along with those tenders come things like the rights of first refusal, etc

the one that we'd put Campbell under would be:

"The player's original team maintains the Right of First Refusal and First Round Draft Selection and Third Round Draft Selection (both from the team with which he signs) if the team tenders an offer of one year at $2.792 million OR at least 110% of the player's prior year’s salary -- whichever is greater."

Granted you can get the right of first refusal otherwise, but with Campbell being the top FA QB you'll tender him highest and then work on negotiations otherwise. I think that his current salary has part to do with it as well.

[url=http://www.askthecommish.com/freeagency/]Ask The Commish.com - Free Agency 101[/url]

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[quote=redskins202;663901]Thats an ESPN writer writing that lol. Listen to the other NFL analysts who commented Campbell all game long. Did you hear Chris Collinsworth all game about Campbell on the Cowboys game? he thought Campbell wasn't a starter in his own words.


Its ok tho as long as we draft a QB for the future .[/quote]

Matt Williamson actually works for Scouts Inc, breaks down tape and does analysis for ESPN. Not to say anything against Collinsworth, but I'll pay more attention to what the guys of Scouts Inc have to say about these issues. And my whole point was to counter your label of Campbell being a terrible QB.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;663908]Nightmare Draft:

1. Rams - Bradford
2. Lions - Okung
3. Bucs - Suh
4. No one wants to trade up. Of course selecting Jimmy Clausen would be a good pick.[/quote]You meant perfect draft :)

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[quote=Ruhskins;663788]I think you are exaggerating on Campbell's abilities, especially when you see analysts say thing like this...

[URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=4911628"]NFL: The Carolina Panthers have depth problems at wide receiver - ESPN[/URL][/quote]
This is from your link talking about JC

[B]"has a big strong arm to drive the ball down the field and is accurate enough."[/B]

[B]Where the he!! do these guys get that he is accurate with the long ball? When he should lead the man inside he throws it outside and when he should lead the man outside he throws it out of bounds. When he does have someone wide open he gets excited and over throws the guy when all he needed to do was throw it with enough arch for the WR to make the play. I know he has the arm but he has never shown me the accuracy that some talk about.[/B]

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I think that "is accurate enough" was meant to mean across all throws, not just the long ones

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[quote=Buster;663863]Here we go again with the candle crap...do you realize NO ONE is going to take anything you say seriously with that immaturity? (not that your points are valid and unbiased anyways)


I do believe we should draft a Tackle with that #4 pick. Even if we get Bradford or Claussen, they won't be able to develop without a solid line. Think David Carr.

We won't get a 1st and 3rd for Campbell from anyone, so even speculating about a trade like this is pointless. Our best bet for success is to build up the line and let Campbell run Shanny's offense, which is tailor-made for his skillset. Shanahan's offense is run-heavy but the QB's role is made easy for a mobile QB to succeed. He likes to use half of the field and roll out the QB a lot. When tjhe QB rolls out, he'll have 3 routes being run at different depths right in front of him...so the progressions are as easy as counting 1-2-3 as the QB looks at all open options right in front of him. If no one is immediately open, the QB can take off, something that Campbell does better than most QBs in the league. He just needs to learn how to slide!

[QUOTE]I think JC will be highly successful in this offense IF we have an offensive line and running game, which could come with the rebuilding of the line. With out first two picks at least, we need a Tackle and a Center/Guard. Rabach is backup material and cost us far too many points and possessions. After that, draft a RB and LB. If LeFevour is around in rounds 4-6, get him to groom as the #2 QB and to compete with Colt Brennan, [QUOTE]who may not even make the team if we get someone like LeFevour. [/quote] Late picks, get more depth at OL, LB and maybe even a CB with last-round potential.[B] No more "best available" picks...we have specific and vital needs this year that Vinny and his crew ignored for years.[/B]
[/QUOTE]
There's more success drafting a first round QB than a 2nd or 3rd round QB. Bradford and Clausen have 2 times more upside than the other guys back there. And drafting an OT this year with our first isn't the right move at all. Why would we give every thing to a QB who's gonna be here for one year?.I find it unfair to how Drew Brees with to NO but didn't have alot of weapons intill he threw to Colston and found out he's pretty good. Same with Mcnabb he has no true#1 WR and still uses his weapons around him .

[B][quote]Try watching them, please.[/quote][/QUOTE][/B]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vp2kOQeK18]YouTube - Osi Umenyiora Scores TD versus Redskins[/ame]

On this video Jason Campbell has time but what he didn't do what he was suppose to step up into the pocket and by more time to throw or do something. Troy Aikman said that he should of done this and that and he's right.

I mean its just a video but look at the Bucs game with his INT's. He rebounded but this was the Bucs ..........

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Why do people think Clausen would be a good pick at 4. The dude is a second round caliber QB who will be drafted in the first round because its such a weak QB class. Drafting Clausen at 4 would be the absolute worst possible way to use the pick. At 36, it would be a decent move.

Re: ESPN: Clayton Expects Skins to Tender Campbell for a 1st and 3rd
 

We all saw that last year.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;663994]Why do people think Clausen would be a good pick at 4. The dude is a second round caliber QB who will be drafted in the first round because its such a weak QB class. Drafting Clausen at 4 would be the absolute worst possible way to use the pick. At 36, it would be a decent move.[/quote]

Why do you think he's 2nd round caliber?