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[quote=CRedskinsRule;663851]Question: a co-worker of mine saw a man driving, and in the back seat was a child, clearly young according to her, and the child was moving about. She called either the police or DSS, I don't remember which, and gave them the car info and license plate.

I was shocked that she would do that and told her so. She couldn't believe I thought she was in the wrong.

Note: she doesn't have kids.

IMO people are WAY too nosy, and sadly the internet feeds that.[/quote]
In Manassas coming out of a shopping center that I worked at there was a left hand turn lane, one to turn right, and one with 2 signs that said it was for the 66 exit only. All of the freaking time people would not pay attention, treat the 2 right lanes as equals to get onto the road (234) and nearly sideswipe somebody, if not actually doing such, because they didn't stay in the 66 exit lane.

One night I figured that I'd had enough, a pickup came rolling through the light as I was turning onto the road, I was driving my beater car at the time (92 lesabre) and figured might as well get an insurance write-off on it. The pickup was going very fast you could see the body roll on it coming out of the turn. For some reason at the very last second I slammed on my breaks, instinct I guess. The truck not only went into MY lane, but the next one over in one swoop.. and then to the left turn lane after that, but not before, after having JUST cut across me, a kid no older than 3 pops her head up and looks out of the back window.

There is NO excuse to not strap a child in and I'll report every damn one of them myself.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;663893]Here's a question: What do you do if you see a person disciplining a small child (say less than 4) in a grocery store by using excessive force - slapping, hitting or otherwise violent behavior?

Do you say something? Ignore it?[/quote]

some 4 year old and youngers can use a firm pat to the butt, depends on what you define as excessive I guess. I'll for certain stare you down and not move until you're finished if it's over the top, it's likely that person's fault their kid is such a brat and they can't figure out how to deal with it anyways.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;663975]So based on what i've said, you just automatically assume that we dont have children. Nice.

The only thing that is obvious is that there are only a few people on here, that are willing to give a spanking a try if no other method works. The rest of you are trying the hands off approach and/or hoping for divine intervention. Nothing but respect to people who are making that work.

I'd love to see some of you when the going gets rough. How about this...instead of criticising my opinions that "dont have weight"...how about we post as parents what worked for us...The thread title could be changed too, but that's not my call.[/quote]

Do you have kids? And I was basing my opinion on your time on this site as a whole. I was not attacking you, just simply saying I hold the weight of a parent over a non-parent on this subject. Also I don't know by guessing whether or not you are a parent is offensive, you might be a little over sensitive.

This is my opinion on the subject. I personally do not hit my child, I also believe I don't have the right to tell you what to do with your child. So if you feel like spanking is the best method go for it, it just doesn't fly in my household.

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[quote=Mattyk;663910]You're opening a whole different can of worms here. Discipline doesn't have to mean a beating or ass kicking. If you got your "ass kicked", sounds like abuse to me.[/quote]
Agreed. My mother was abusive physically and emotionally and my stepfather was a bit cold, very old school to a fault. My grandfather who was my first father figure was very firm but very fair, if he said something there was no other choice but to listen and it was more of a respect thing than a fear. I can't recall a time that he ever physically punished me but I wouldn't have put it past him, but he never would've been cruel with it.

If physical discipline is the norm then you have somehow failed to teach your children to act correctly. Sometimes kids will be kids; it's the "thought out" physical discipline that isn't much of a problem, the reactionary physical discipline is the problem because you're showing that you have no better way to deal with the situation which is quite barbaric in my opinion.

I see a lot of baby boomers say things like "I got my ass beat and it worked" but I've also seen data on prescribed mood stabilizing drugs on that generation as well (they're over-prescribed but to each other age group as well).

The scary thing that I've witnessed lately is young parents not putting aside time for their children, just giving them another video, show, toy, etc to play with. I lived with a "friend" for a bit, his wife and kid. The kid wasn't allowed on the couch, was frequently denied hugs and attention (once they finished dinner they went to watch TV.. if he wasn't finished he had to stay downstairs alone, so naturally he rarely ate much.. if he got hungry later on they told him too bad), was told to either go into his playroom or go to bed from the minute he got home, was told to stop talking if he tried to talk to his mom, etc. If I played with him I'd get fussed at and so would he, because they could hear the kid. That absolutely destroyed me to see and the remainder of the time I lived there I pretty much shuttered myself into my bedroom and it really strained our friendship. Parents who don't want to raise and nurture their children shouldn't have them.

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[quote=Schneed10;663930]Depends how bad it is. I don't like to spank my daughter (she's 3) but I have and will again I'm sure. Never in public, mind you, that takes some balls.

If I see a parent using an open hand to slap with the goal being to sting the child's skin, then I'm fine with that, that's just a parent disciplining and using the proper restraint to ensure the child doesn't get injured. The second I see a closed fist I'd have to say something or place a call to the police.

Also, one or two slaps is all a kid needs to get the message across. I'd get concerned if a parent was repeatedly slapping, even with an open hand. That's a sign the parent is doing it out of frustration.

And the parents' demeanor matters too. If they're cool and collected while delivering the spank, then I'm comfortable that it's under control. If they look like they're starting to enter a fit of rage or frustration, then that's bad news.[/quote]
Working in some of the more "urban" liquor stores while doing mgmt with the state of va you have no clue how many times I'd hear parents tell a young child "I'm going to beat your ass" and things like that. How do you say that in public? Disgusting.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;663937]Well i'll be happy to tell you. There is a family who lives in our culdesac, two houses over.

They have 2 kids....a 9 year old, and a 5 year old. Just 2 months ago, the 9 year old went to school and told his classmate that he was going to shoot him with an AK 47. No lie. My wife knows the mother. She goes on and on about how when she was growing up, they would get in big trouble for that stuff.

But she laments further that her husband has recently "found god", and now is real hesitant to put a hand on him, because the preacher told him all this stuff and bla bla bla. (I'm thinking spare the rod, spoil the child).

Anyhow, they put him in "time out", where he still gets his XBOX, TV, etc etc...he's a problem in school and the neighborhood kids don't play with him because of how they are, so we hear all this stuff from neighbors.

Anyway, it sounds to me like time out isn't working. So if you're telling me a "hands-off" parenting approach works, i'll call you a liar.[/quote]
sounds like parenting is the issue, not the lack of spanking

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I didnt take offense to what MRREDSKINS said to me, i didnt want anybody to get that impression from me.

And for the above, i think it's a combination of both for the family that lives on our road. It seems that they had some sort of discipline for the child at some point, but when the parents got religion, it seemed they backed way off. So yes, I think its parenting that is primarily to blame.

We have resolution. Most are trying the time out thing, and resorting to spanking only as a last resort. You go out to town and it's just too clear that there is no discipline whatsoever. And as far as most of the kids have gotten, you know that verbal discipline isn't going to work anymore. A true no win situation.

you don't believe me? just take a good look at the grocery store or walmart sometime...the only reason kids act up like that is because they know they can get away with it, and most of the time, they do it deliberatley.

I agree with the other posters who said their dads or moms gave them plenty of warning before resorting to a spanking...thats how it was for me as well...

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Sooooo, for those people who let their child scream and go apeshit in a public place to the dismay of everyone around shouldn't be told what to do about their kids?

I just ask because my coworker and I have that discussion often and his rebuttal is always: "Well, you don't have kids."

It's true, I don't have kids but I have ears and if your kids are affecting my environment, then you need to remove them and I won't hesitate to tell you to do so. He tells me that if I had any idea what it's like to have a screaming child on my hands then I would change my tune. I DEFINITELY disagree. If you have a screaming baby or child in a restaurant, you need to remove it from the situation until the screaming has stopped.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;663975]So based on what i've said, you just automatically assume that we dont have children. Nice.

The only thing that is obvious is that there are only a few people on here, that are willing to give a spanking a try if no other method works. The rest of you are trying the hands off approach and/or hoping for divine intervention. Nothing but respect to people who are making that work.

[B]I'd love to see some of you when the going gets rough.[/B] How about this...instead of criticising my opinions that "dont have weight"...how about we post as parents what worked for us...The thread title could be changed too, but that's not my call.[/quote]

Even when the going has gotten rough, I have never had to strike my children for disciplinary purposes. Not saying there f'ing angels - there typical energetic kids. Early on, however, we had "Time Out Training". If they did not obey the command to "Go to the Step", I would physically put them on the step and hold the kids on the step so they understood they could not leave. I did so gently but firmly making sure not to injure and, instead, letting them flail as much as they wanted to no avail - their butts stayed firmly planted on the step. I had to do that a couple of times with each kid. After that, time out has been consistently applied and the rules followed or they just get to stay there.

(Once, I sent my boy to the step - he was about 4. I told him "4 minutes", he protested, I replied "5 minutes", one extra minute each time he uttered a sound of protest, he finally shut up about 20 seconds later when I was up to 15 - Again, works like a charm).

I don't care too much how you choose to raise your kids - really. Just don't assume that violence is the only way. It's not.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;664027]Sooooo, for those people who let their child scream and go apeshit in a public place to the dismay of everyone around shouldn't be told what to do about their kids?

I just ask because my coworker and I have that discussion often and his rebuttal is always: "Well, you don't have kids."

It's true, I don't have kids but I have ears and if your kids are affecting my environment, then you need to remove them and I won't hesitate to tell you to do so. He tells me that if I had any idea what it's like to have a screaming child on my hands then I would change my tune. [B]I DEFINITELY disagree. If you have a screaming baby or child in a restaurant, you need to remove it from the situation until the screaming has stopped.[/B][/quote]

Generally, I agreee with this statement. I would say, however, I am not going to wisk my kid away at the first scream. We will attempt to calm him/her down and, if it is clearly not working, we will take the child out.

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Absolutely.

I mean definitely give it a shot, but so many times, they just scream and the parent is like, "Shhh, quiet down now." and just let them go INSAAAANE.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;664026]I didnt take offense to what [B]MRREDSKINS [/B]said to me, i didnt want anybody to get that impression from me.

And for the above, i think it's a combination of both for the family that lives on our road. It seems that they had some sort of discipline for the child at some point, but when the parents got religion, it seemed they backed way off. So yes, I think its parenting that is primarily to blame.

We have resolution. Most are trying the time out thing, and resorting to spanking only as a last resort. You go out to town and it's just too clear that there is no discipline whatsoever. And as far as most of the kids have gotten, you know that verbal discipline isn't going to work anymore. A true no win situation.

you don't believe me? just take a good look at the grocery store or walmart sometime...the only reason kids act up like that is because they know they can get away with it, and most of the time, they do it deliberatley.

I agree with the other posters who said their dads or moms gave them plenty of warning before resorting to a spanking...thats how it was for me as well...[/quote]


First I need to change my screen name, so many people get it wrong.

Second I think you are letting a few bad experiences/apples jaded your view that every kid in America is a brat with no discipline. In the 50's did every kid walk around like a mute dummy? I find that hard to believe, I am pretty sure what challenges face us today with raising small children faced the same folks back then and I don't think every child in the 50's was hit either. It is not like "not hitting your kids" is some new wave method of raising kids.

YOU HAVE STILL YET OT SAY IF YOU HAVE KIDS OR NOT.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;664028]Even when the going has gotten rough, I have never had to strike my children for disciplinary purposes. Not saying there f'ing angels - there typical energetic kids. Early on, however, we had "Time Out Training". If they did not obey the command to "Go to the Step", I would physically put them on the step and hold the kids on the step so they understood they could not leave. I did so gently but firmly making sure not to injure and, instead, letting them flail as much as they wanted to no avail - their butts stayed firmly planted on the step. I had to do that a couple of times with each kid. After that, time out has been consistently applied and the rules followed or they just get to stay there.

(Once, I sent my boy to the step - he was about 4. I told him "4 minutes", he protested, I replied "5 minutes", one extra minute each time he uttered a sound of protest, he finally shut up about 20 seconds later when I was up to 15 - Again, works like a charm).

I don't care too much how you choose to raise your kids - really. Just don't assume that violence is the only way. It's not.[/quote]

We might be confusing each other, and that's probably my fault. My comments about spanking, etc...are generally meant for older children, for example, older than 5, who KNOWS FULL WELL, that they are doing something on purpose.

I would not advocate doing it to a young young child. I think time out is perfect for a 3 or 4 year old....but older than that and they know they are misbehaving. And still....i am saying physicality is a LAST RESORT....

and it's not like i'd lace up my gloves and start slugging away...i dont even believe in hitting kids out of anger.....but i know plenty of people who were spanked and turned out fine.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;664036]Absolutely.

I mean definitely give it a shot, but so many times, they just scream and the parent is like, "Shhh, quiet down now." and just let them go INSAAAANE.[/quote]


I think as being a non-parent your tolerance is low but I do agree if they are going complete ape shit time to pull them out and discipline outside.

I am new parent for the most part, only two years but I can remember going to my buddies house and thinking his kids were crazy but after having my son I can tolerate their behavior much more, though I still think they need some more discipline.

I think when you are a non-parent you view small children as little people that should act like big people. Their minds are developing just like their bodies they are not fully grown yet. This doesn't give them a licenses to go crazy but does require some understanding on your part. At times children will be children.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;664036]Absolutely.

I mean definitely give it a shot, but so many times, they just scream and the parent is like, "Shhh, quiet down now." and just let them go INSAAAANE.[/quote]

It all goes back to consistent discipline (whatever it may be). Kids are not idiots. They know what they can get away with and who they can play. Yes. sometimes they just lose it b/c they are kids. In those times, hopefully, you can remove them from the situation and regain some control. But that ain't gonna happen unless you have already laid a groundwork.

(I have seen how some parents "discipline" their kids. They misbehave - parents threaten to leave the playdate/make them take a timeout/take away a toy/etc., chile misbehaves again, no consequences just another warning, etc., etc. Until finally, the parent goes ballistic, yells at the child, takes away privileges etc. No rhyme or reason as to why it was done on after 7th warning as opposed to after the first).

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[quote=SolidSnake84;664044]We might be confusing each other, and that's probably my fault. My comments about spanking, etc...are generally meant for older children, for example, older than 5, who KNOWS FULL WELL, that they are doing something on purpose.

[B]I would not advocate doing it to a young young child. I think time out is perfect for a 3 or 4 year old....but older than that and they know they are misbehaving. And still....i am saying physicality is a LAST RESORT....[/B]

and it's not like i'd lace up my gloves and start slugging away...i dont even believe in hitting kids out of anger.....but i know plenty of people who were spanked and turned out fine.[/quote]

Well, my boy is almost 7 and time-outs and privilege deprivation (no TV, computer, going over to friend's house) still work. In fact, to some degree they work better b/c he has a concept of time now and [I]knows[/I] that three days without computer games is a loooongggg time.

Now - when he is a teenager, I may just have to beat some sense into him, but that's a different story altogether.

And just so we're clear. Corporal punishment was in no way anathema to my father and I turned out just fine (well, there are those bodies under the deck...).

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I applaud you, and anyone else, who finds a consistent method that works for them...i mean that honestly.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;664062]I applaud you, and anyone else, who finds a consistent method that works for them...i mean that honestly.[/quote]


Hey man thanks for the PM, very classy. When you first got here I dropped you in my mind as a Jsanro and for that I was wrong. You are a class act.

I think in the future you may want to better think out some of your post and it may save you 12 more post trying to explain yourself. I certainly can take that advice myself!

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;664027]Sooooo, for those people who let their child scream and go apeshit in a public place to the dismay of everyone around shouldn't be told what to do about their kids?

I just ask because my coworker and I have that discussion often and his rebuttal is always: "Well, you don't have kids."

It's true, I don't have kids but I have ears and if your kids are affecting my environment, then you need to remove them and I won't hesitate to tell you to do so. He tells me that if I had any idea what it's like to have a screaming child on my hands then I would change my tune. I DEFINITELY disagree. If you have a screaming baby or child in a restaurant, you need to remove it from the situation until the screaming has stopped.[/quote]

Got to agree with this, I believe I would be embarrassed to the point that I would remove them immediately.

Also, what's the deal with people flying their newborns around on airplanes? The pressure in their ears has to hurt like hell and then people wonder why they're crying.

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I wonder the same thing about why people bring newborns and babies into the movie theaters. I can only imagine that its from not having any babysitter. My cousin used to work at Carmike Cinemas in Winchester, and she told me one time that these people brought a 2 year old to see Friday the 13th....wtf??

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[quote=SolidSnake84;664084]I wonder the same thing about why people bring newborns and babies into the movie theaters. I can only imagine that its from not having any babysitter. My cousin used to work at Carmike Cinemas in Winchester, and she told me [B]one time that these people brought a 2 year old to see Friday the 13th....wtf?[/B]?[/quote]


I was about ready to post that too! Saw a 4 year old girl at Friday 13th she sat in my row it was uncomfortable having there. I can imagine how well she slept the next few days. Iremeebr as a child seeing a clip A CLIP of the Exorcist and could not sleep for weeks.

Ok, forget this spanking kids we need to start spanking bad parents or putting them in time outs.

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jamf,
thank you that was good, i love the containing baby, and the car seat one the best

tmc,
couldn't agree with you more, we have the same mindset as far as annoying ass kids and public places


as far as the spanking a child, if i have said it once i have said it 100 times, somtimes what a kid really needs is a good spanking, you can say all you want about it but the bottom line is kids nowadays are flat out terrible. granted there are some kids out there that are respectful, but they are few and far between anymore, kids get away wioth so much more shit everyday. imo it goes with the whole "pussification" of our society, when i was a kid the team that lost didn't get a trophy and we kept score because in real life there are winners and losers, :rant: i don't have kids and won't have kids, so my views are more than a little jaded

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the one thing i have learned about parenting is... you can be the "best" parent in the land, and once the kid is old enough, the decisions are his/ hers. you can guide them, and teach them right from wrong. but they do have a mind of their own. and once they reach a certain age, its all them

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[quote=mlmdub130;664090]jamf,
thank you that was good, i love the containing baby, and the car seat one the best

tmc,
couldn't agree with you more, we have the same mindset as far as annoying ass kids and public places


as far as the spanking a child, if i have said it once i have said it 100 times, somtimes what a kid really needs is a good spanking, you can say all you want about it but the bottom line is kids nowadays are flat out terrible. granted there are some kids out there that are respectful, but they are few and far between anymore, kids get away wioth so much more shit everyday. imo it goes with the whole "pussification" of our society, when i was a kid the team that lost didn't get a trophy and we kept score because in real life there are winners and losers, :rant: i don't have kids and [B]won't have kids[/B], so my views are more than a little jaded[/quote]

And for that we are grateful.

Seriously some of you sound like the old guy on SNL that walked in the snow uphill both ways to school everyday.

Guess what you can hate on kids and old people all you want but at some point in your life you will be both of them just hope you don't run into in one with your beliefs.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;664084]I wonder the same thing about why people bring newborns and babies into the movie theaters. I can only imagine that its from not having any babysitter. My cousin used to work at Carmike Cinemas in Winchester, and she told me one time that these people brought a 2 year old to see Friday the 13th....wtf??[/quote]

My kid is 2 and I still know he doesn't have the attention span for a movie in the theater. He's a VERY well-behaved boy...but I know a little kid's limits. A movie theater is no place for a small child, you'll only waste your money by leaving early or disturb everyone else by staying. I haven't seen a movie in the theater since he was born and don't mind. I knew ahead of time my priorities in life were going to have to change. It's not about me anymore.

I wish more people would realize this and take responsibility when they become parents, whether it was planned or not. Once a child is created inside the mother, your life is no longer about yourself, it's about protecting and raising that life you created. So if you can't go to movies, or shopping or amusement parks for a few years...tough, you're a parent now. If people would stop being so selfish and taking small children to places where it isn't appropriate for lengths of time beyond their tiny attention spans, we'd all have less screaming kids in public to deal with. It's not the kids' faults most of the time. You can't expect them to be able to go around town and into places where silence is required and behave like an adult with manners. Sure, kids should learn to behave to an extent in public, but if you're testing their boundaries and abilities to restrain themselves for so long, any kid can act up from boredom or fatigue. We took our son to NY in a car from PA...we learned his limit...about half an hour from Long Island. For the first 4 hours in the car, he was perfect...but there's a point. My butt was sore too. :D

Some people should get some parenting lessons, but I won't speak up, that's their lesson to learn.

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^ Try taking him to a pure kids movie it is a hoot. We have yet to take my son but we did go with my buddy and his kids to see Chicken Little. Nobody sits during the movie consistent talking, etc... the theater even keeps the lights on for the most part becasue they know no one is actually going to watch the movie.

We are thinking of taking him to Toy Story 3 as his first movie he will be 2.5 by then.

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I flew back from Phoenix last Monday and sat next to twelve week old baby. It was the only aisle seat left and it was either there or between to guys as large as me. Squished for 5 hours or spacious (relatively) seat but next to crying baby.

I chose the baby... karma was good to me - it did not make a single noise the entire flight. It was amazing.

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[quote=mredskins;664163]^ Try taking him to a pure kids movie it is a hoot. We have yet to take my son but we did go with my buddy and his kids to see Chicken Little. Nobody sits during the movie consistent talking, etc... the theater even keeps the lights on for the most part becasue they know no one is actually going to watch the movie.

We are thinking of taking him to Toy Story 3 as his first movie he will be 2.5 by then.[/quote]

Last movie my wife and I saw was "Happy Feet" (yes the penguins) at an IMAX (yes before we had kids).

It was like we were at the South Pole. Ice everywhere.




When the time comes, yeah, we'll definitely take him to a kids' movie, but we still know it would be a waste of money at his young age. Now the train museum, that's a different story. :)

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[quote=mredskins;664163]^ Try taking him to a pure kids movie it is a hoot. We have yet to take my son but we did go with my buddy and his kids to see Chicken Little.[B] Nobody sits during the movie consistent talking, etc... the theater even keeps the lights on[/B] for the most part becasue they know no one is actually going to watch the movie.

We are thinking of taking him to Toy Story 3 as his first movie he will be 2.5 by then.[/quote]

my nightmare

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i just went out and while i was driving i passed a car with a young kid driver in it looked to be maybe 17, and on the rear window some one had written how is my driving please call and then a phone number, pretty sweet idea, it's a lock that id won't be cutting me off without a phone call to his parents

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^ NICE, gotta remember that one for about another 15 years...

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[quote=mlmdub130;664201]i just went out and while i was driving i passed a car with a young kid driver in it looked to be maybe 17, and on the rear window some one had written how is my driving please call and then a phone number, pretty sweet idea, it's a lock that id won't be cutting me off without a phone call to his parents[/quote]

At one point I had started to look into setting up a Call Line using those same bumper stickers, get a good 800 number and let parents register their vehicles just like truckers do. Seemed like a decent potential, but I just bailed on it. Still think it seems like someone could make a go of something like that

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I have two little ones, 2 and a 1/2 and 14 months. Both my wife and I were spanked as children, and it was something we both agreed to try and not do. To this day, we still haven't spanked either one of our kids. Not that I don't agree with the idea of spanking, it's just something we've decided to try and live without.

Timeouts have worked for us thus far. My oldest responds to it very well. We always assure to tell her why we put her there, and then talk to her about it after it's done.

As far as being out with the kids, we always make sure to go to kid-friendly places where we know the noise volume is higher than normal. For the most part, our girls are well-behaved, and if they get too rowdy, we pack up and go. No reason for anyone else to suffer because our kids can't behave.

I can't see my oldest sitting through an entire movie since she can barely sit through a 20 minute episode of Scooby Doo (which is her favorite right now, although she likes Max & Ruby, Phineas & Ferb, Dragon Tales, and Yo Gabba Gabba too...I sneak in Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies from time to time and she likes those). But I think here soon we'll give it a whirl at home, as we do have a good number of Disney/Pixar movies.

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[quote=BDBohnzie;665186]I have two little ones, 2 and a 1/2 and 14 months. Both my wife and I were spanked as children, and it was something we both agreed to try and not do. To this day, we still haven't spanked either one of our kids. Not that I don't agree with the idea of spanking, it's just something we've decided to try and live without.

Timeouts have worked for us thus far. My oldest responds to it very well. We always assure to tell her why we put her there, and then talk to her about it after it's done.

As far as being out with the kids, we always make sure to go to kid-friendly places where we know the noise volume is higher than normal. For the most part, our girls are well-behaved, and if they get too rowdy, we pack up and go. No reason for anyone else to suffer because our kids can't behave.

[B]I can't see my oldest sitting through an entire movie since she can barely sit through a 20 minute episode of Scooby Doo (which is her favorite right now, although she likes Max & Ruby, Phineas & Ferb, Dragon Tales, and Yo Gabba Gabba too[/B]...I sneak in Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies from time to time and she likes those). But I think here soon we'll give it a whirl at home, as we do have a good number of Disney/Pixar movies.[/quote]

Sadly my son is in love with Dora, that show is so bad not Barney bad but still annoying.

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My daughter loves Dora, but sadly it never shows up on our TV, so she doesn't request it. I just think it's funny that she's scared of different things, but Scooby Doo doesn't freak her out. Almost like she knows how campy it really is.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;664223]At one point I had started to look into setting up a Call Line using those same bumper stickers, get a good 800 number and let parents register their vehicles just like truckers do. Seemed like a decent potential, but I just bailed on it. Still think it seems like someone could make a go of something like that[/quote]That's a good idea but I think the problem is that kids can be such vindictive assholes. You just know half of the calls would come from a fellow teenager who is mad at the driver for some stupid reason, so they want to get him in trouble.
It reminds me of what one of my teacher friends said happened at their school. A couple of kids who drive a car similar to another teacher or vice principal (I can't remember exactly) where printing out fake license plates on the computer, taping them over their real plates, and purposely speeding past speed cameras. [B]To be fair, I have no idea if this was true or not, but it sounds like something kid I knew in high school would have done.[/B]

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i think it would help if the number was regulated somehow, like if the number went to the insurance company or something, who would then call the parents/responsible party and let them know that they have been getting complaints about the vehicle, etc...

But i'm not sure...somebody would probably prank it too much for it to really be legitimate...

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;665264]That's a good idea but I think the problem is that kids can be such vindictive assholes. You just know half of the calls would come from a fellow teenager who is mad at the driver for some stupid reason, so they want to get him in trouble.
It reminds me of what one of my teacher friends said happened at their school. A couple of kids who drive a car similar to another teacher or vice principal (I can't remember exactly) where printing out fake license plates on the computer, taping them over their real plates, and purposely speeding past speed cameras. [B]To be fair, I have no idea if this was true or not, but it sounds like something kid I knew in high school would have done.[/B][/quote]


General you would have to have the same color car and car type plus a pretty good copy those images are really clear. I doubt the story is true.

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Not to bring up an old thread but...

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[quote=SmootSmack;820469]Not to bring up an old thread but...

[URL="http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/05/dramatic-video-shows-gunmen-firing-into-philadelphia-city-bus/"]Dramatic Video Shows Gunmen Firing Into Philadelphia City Bus - FoxNews.com[/URL][/quote]


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